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Samsung 960 Pro 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD $311.20 Delivered @ Futu eBay

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Samsung 960 Pro 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD $311.20 Delivered @ Futu eBay
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Jabba the Hutt on 12/09/2017 - 12:09 ebay.com.au (2713 clicks)
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Ridiculously fast SSD for systems with PCIe M.2 2280 sockets.

Remains listed at a competitive pre-discount price, apparently overlooked by the price jacker since the 20%-off coupon was posted. Note there's also a duplicate listing at $399, in case this $389 one disappears.

While it's usually debatable whether the Pro is worth it over the EVO, this significantly narrows the price gap, and appears to be the cheapest the 512GB Pro's been by a considerable margin.

Unfortunately, the other models/capacities appear to be listed at inflated prices, though they may still be the cheapest available after the coupon - just less of a 'bargain' than this one.

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  • doweyy on 12/09/2017 - 12:13
    +5

    That seems like an amazing price considering the memory prices currently, great find!

    • Viper8 on 12/09/2017 - 13:19
      +2

      SSD prices are actually trending flat, its only RAM prices that are going through the roof.
      Have a look at the trend graphs on pcpartspicker

      • TrulyUnicorn on 13/09/2017 - 10:49

        Actually SSD prices are still much higher compared to what they were earlier this year. They have remained fairly stagnate of of recent but that's not to say they're not higher. Expand PcPartPicker's time frame past just 120 days.

        https://i.imgur.com/py5G5dV.png <- The 850 EVO just for example.

        They're fairly high in comparison, SSD's are also affected by global NAND shortages.

        • Viper8 on 13/09/2017 - 11:36

          Compared to that single temporary low yes, but historically they're sitting at normal levels.

        • TrulyUnicorn on 13/09/2017 - 13:18

          NAND shortages became an issue in July 2016. RAM prices steadily climbed since then, and you can see the same behaviour with SSD's, both technologies make use of NAND memory. SSD Prices have been consistently dropping over the past few years and now they're climbing back up. "Historically" doesn't really apply here, memory prices are still higher than they should be.

    • BiG BoY on 12/09/2017 - 18:38

      Yes price is unmissable bought one cheers op

  • malouphix on 12/09/2017 - 12:47

    Great price, these usually hover around $400-$435

  • alvian on 12/09/2017 - 12:48

    This is curious. As of 12:45pm there were 28 +votes with 7 sales. The usual votes/sales ratio has been inverted.

    • malouphix on 12/09/2017 - 12:55

      It's lunch time, appears top of the news page, it's gaining traction, it should right itself shortly.

    • netsurfer on 12/09/2017 - 13:00

      Even with the low price (below MSY's current price) + the 20% off, it is still one of the most expensive 512GB SSD (though it ended up being cheaper than MSY's 500GB 960 EVO).

      Also, most people with PCs/laptops/NUCs with m.2 NVMe support would probably bought one previously. Damn, why didn't I wait for this… Sigh…

      • Nukkels on 12/09/2017 - 15:45
        +1

        Of course it's the most expensive. It's the fastest. I'm surprised Samsung isn't charging more since there's no competition…

        Please show us another brand that has SSDs capable of 1800+ Gbps write speeds - I'd love to see someone compete with Samsung.

        • netsurfer on 12/09/2017 - 16:04

          Someone mentioned Toshiba OCZ RD400 in one of the comments below.

          Also, can we realistic and not use/quote the marketing hype of sequential read/write performance? What do most people have that has the ability to send data that fast to saturate/reach the rated speed? 960 Pro, while have improved 4K random read/write speed doesn't top every single benchmark.

        • Nukkels on 12/09/2017 - 16:34
          +2

          @netsurfer:

          What do I have that sends data that fast? I have a Ryzen 1700X and fast RAM - encoding videos is very fast, but I think it's mostly due to my 960 Evo. My previous computer got a lot faster at encoding when I upgraded my SSD.

        • Solid State Fetish on 12/09/2017 - 17:02

          @Nukkels: What file format & resolution footage are you working with in your NLE timeline for video editing? I'd love to hear how much benefit people find with timeline scrubbing and media management when working with 4K & 8K (yay RED) once they've upgraded from either a SATA 850 EVO to a 960 EVO/Pro or from a 950 Pro to a 960 EVO/Pro (assuming the rest of your rigs are up to the task of handling it).

        • netsurfer on 12/09/2017 - 17:16
          +3

          @Nukkels: Your CPU, RAM and software can decode and write 2GB (gigabytes) per second? So, in 4 and half minutes, your computer is powerful enough to completely fill the entire 960 Pro 512GB drive with brand new encoded contents? That's wishful thinking.

          Normal SSDs will do a decent job. For me to test my 960 Pro sequential speed, I need to create a RAM drive, but to prepare the file to the RAM drive, the actual time takes much longer.

          This SSD is more for bragging for most people (myself included). You can feel the improvement over traditional SSD, but just a bit better. It is not like the difference between traditional HD to SSD. Sequential read/write is just for marketing. The random read/write performance doesn't actually blow other SSDs out of water/

    • Shwayne on 12/09/2017 - 13:50
      +1

      I voted it up as it's a great deal, but there's no M2 socket on my motherboard. :(

      • EarlyBird on 14/09/2017 - 11:32

        You can get a PCIe M.2 adaptor if you have a spare X4 slot.

        • Shwayne on 14/09/2017 - 11:48

          D:

          Will it perform at the same speeds?

        • EarlyBird on 14/09/2017 - 11:51

          @Shwayne:
          It will if it's PCIe 3.0 X4 and you have not used up all the lanes provided by the chipset of your MB.

        • Shwayne on 14/09/2017 - 13:54

          @EarlyBird: dang it's PCIE 2.0, quite old.

    • Megeso1246 on 12/09/2017 - 17:39

      wow! so many sales now. I wonder how many of you actually NEED it?

  • Bact on 12/09/2017 - 12:58

    I have a Z97i-plus motherboard and I know it has an M.2 slot. But I want to triple check if it is compatible before I pull the trigger.

    https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/Z97IPLUS/

    BTW, Thanks OP great find!

    • malouphix on 12/09/2017 - 13:02

      https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/Z97IPLUS/

      Speed up your system with M.2
      With two native PCI Express 2.0 bandwidth, M.2 supports up to 10Gbit/s data-transfer speeds. It is the perfect choice for an operating system drive, making your whole PC work that much faster. It supports Intel® Rapid Storage Technology to ensure even faster access to data, refresh applications automatically and awake from sleep in just seconds!

      *Refer to model specifications for Intel® Rapid Storage Technology support

      • AustriaBargain on 12/09/2017 - 22:58

        Will it really speed up my system over my current Evo 850 over Sata? I’d be glad to shave a few seconds off my startup folder apps.

    • netsurfer on 12/09/2017 - 13:08
      +3

      You need BIOS 2604 or above and even if you upgraded the BIOS, the m.2 slot is still limited to 10Gbps. A true m.2 NVMe PCIe x4 slot should deliver up to 32Gbps. However, the sequential read/write isn't that important during normal day to day use.

      http://www.overclock.net/t/1569629/whats-the-fastest-m-2-ssd…

      In short, with the right BIOS, you could use the SSD, but I probably wouldn't get it.

      • Bact on 12/09/2017 - 13:22
        +1

        I pulled the trigger. Price is way too good. In saying that though, I've been contemplating of updating my system so this will be a good excuse haha. Thanks for the input btw!

        • netsurfer on 12/09/2017 - 13:25
          +1

          It is a great deal and it is still the fastest consumer SSD you can get for your M/B. Sequential read/write isn't THAT important. To get the outrageous sequential read/write, you need either another Samsung NVMe SSD or a RAM drive - that's not really a realistic real life usage for most people.

    • Zenskas on 12/09/2017 - 13:10
      +4

      I have a Z97 board myself. It will work so long as the M.2 slot supports PCIe drives, which yours does, as per the specs: (1 x M.2 Socket 3, , with M Key, type 2260/2280 storage devices support (both SATA & PCIE mode)).

      The main issue is that you will be severely bottlenecking this drive in that slot, as the slot on your board only runs at PCIe x2 Gen 2 speeds. This provides 10Gbit/s of bandwidth, which while being much more than SATA drives at 6Gbit/s, is no where near the PCIe x4 Gen 3 speed of 32Gbit/s that a newer system would provide. You could get this drive and it will still be quick, and later on you could swap it into a newer system and it would be even quicker. However you could also grab a cheaper 960 EVO anytime you want at it's normal price and your board will still be bottlenecking the absolute maximum read/writes of even the cheaper EVO drive. Up to you! :)

      EDIT: Beaten haha. Also yes upgrading your BIOS is very important before using a newer PCIe based SSD, heck upgrading your BIOS is usually a good thing in general for speed/stability of your system.

      • Bact on 12/09/2017 - 13:16

        Thanks! I will be upgrading my system sometime in the near future. I think this is still an upgrade from my current SSD. I currently have a SanDisk SSD Plus

        • netsurfer on 12/09/2017 - 13:22

          It will still be an upgrade given that this one has superior random read/write performance and really shines under heavy workload.

      • perplex on 12/09/2017 - 13:46
        +1

        couldnt you just buy one of these with the z97 board? then performance will be fine?

        http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PCI-E-3-0-x4-Adapter-Converter-Ca…

        • Bact on 12/09/2017 - 13:52

          It would but my GPU is currently using the one (and only) PCIE lane available :(

        • jakentta on 12/09/2017 - 16:51

          You can't boot off that though, can you?

        • perplex on 12/09/2017 - 17:29

          @jakentta:

          if your motherboard supports it, yes

    • alvian on 12/09/2017 - 13:18

      Unfortunate that this old MB is using PCIe2 x2 giving 10Gb/s. The SSD is a PCIe3 x4 device with 32Gb/s bandwidth. You won't see these numbers on this MB: Sequential Read Speed up to 3500 MB/s, Sequential Write Speed up to 2100 MB/s.

      • Bact on 12/09/2017 - 13:21
        +1

        This could be the catalyst to start updating my system :D

        • alvian on 12/09/2017 - 13:26
          +2

          That's the spirit! Buy now, think/upgrade later :-)

        • Bact on 12/09/2017 - 13:57

          @alvian: My bank account will not be happy with that approach though :D

        • wetsandwich on 12/09/2017 - 14:33

          @Bact: Get a credit card and the bank gets stuck with the bill!

    • poporange630 on 12/09/2017 - 13:30
      +1

      Based on the speed limit issue, you may want to consider your 960 evo, which is still extremely fast, and cheaper.

  • Susp3cs on 12/09/2017 - 13:13
    +2

    Just signed up to say thanks for linking this. I was going to buy the EVO together with the rest of the PC from my local PC shop (I like supporting the local) but the cost difference and upgrade was just too good to pass on (i.e. cheaper than the EVO from the local, faster and has 12gb more storage)

  • Doge on 12/09/2017 - 13:32
    +1

    960 Pro/Evo were announced on the 21st September last year… Possible new models incoming?

    • LlamaLlamaLamp on 12/09/2017 - 20:47

      64-layer NAND is expected soon.

  • Pyrock on 12/09/2017 - 13:33

    only just bought a 960EVO 2 weeks ago :(

  • King Steuart on 12/09/2017 - 13:41

    I'll be jumping on the first one of these deals after the 8770k's come out in November!

  • NOTaSAINT on 12/09/2017 - 13:45

    It's a great price but I'm also looking at a toshiba ocz rd400 1tb SSD On eBay for $500 it's a tough choice

    • dunkerlc on 12/09/2017 - 14:43
      +3

      Toshiba OCZ RD400 speed 2600MB/S
      Samsung 960 Pro speed 3500MB/S

  • nfr on 12/09/2017 - 13:47

    I don't know, random speeds don't look that fast to me.

  • T1OOO on 12/09/2017 - 13:56
    +2

    am i bad for buying 4 of these?

    1,244.80

    • malouphix on 12/09/2017 - 15:41
      +2

      no, you are good.

    • frewer on 12/09/2017 - 16:54
      +1

      Good for the economy

  • Black Hole on 12/09/2017 - 14:09

    Great price. Buy another but have no more m.2 slot. Will think about what to do with it later.

    • poseidon1989 on 12/09/2017 - 14:39

      I think you could buy x16 PCI Express card that supports some extra slots of M.2

  • hengzhan on 12/09/2017 - 14:23

    Why buying these..? Is there any actual speed difference between these and the 850 EVO apart from copying files? Good price though given the RRP.

    • dunkerlc on 12/09/2017 - 14:34

      850 Evo speed is 500MB/S with TLC Nand Flash
      960 Pro Speed is 3500MB/S with more reliable MLC Nand Flash
      7 Times Faster and more durable

        • dunkerlc on 12/09/2017 - 14:39
          +2

          This is 950 Pro previous generation of 960 Pro
          Both use more durable MLC Nand Flash
          But
          950 Pro speed is 2500MB/S(5 Times faster than 850 Evo)
          960 Pro speed is 3500MB/S(7 Times faster than 850 Evo)

        • tmr3 on 12/09/2017 - 14:58
          +5

          @dunkerlc: In the real world, 90% of the time, you're probably not going to notice the difference between ~500 MB/s sequential reads and 3500 MB/s sequential reads. If you're copying huge files between drives, then sure, but it's the 4K random and mixed reads/writes that make the difference everywhere else.

          The 960 Pro has a ~45 MB/s 4K read speed compared to the 850 EVO's ~39 MB/s. 4K writes are ~140 MB/s compared to ~80 MB/s. 4K mixed I/O performance is ~50 MB/s comapred to ~35 MB/s. These numbers come from UserBenchmark's average benches for the 512GB 960 Pro, and the 500GB 850 EVO.

          They're good drives, but the biggest speed difference comes from moving from a spinning mechanical drive to any SSD, even a budget SSD. From there, it's very much a case of diminishing returns when it comes to improving system responsiveness for most general use cases.

        • dunkerlc on 12/09/2017 - 15:13

          @tmr3:
          For me I only focus on the Game loading time
          I upgrade from 850 Pro 256GB to 950 Pro 256GB
          Then I upgrade from 950 Pro 256GB to 960 Pro 512GB
          I have to say, every time I upgrade I notice the difference
          Game loading time decreased significantly

        • netsurfer on 12/09/2017 - 15:30
          +4

          @dunkerlc: Game loading time won't decrease significantly. You will notice the difference, but not as big as heavy photo editing or video processing.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecCA0gx_eZk

          The biggest issue with 850 EVO benchmark tests / reviews is that they only briefly mention that once the SLC cache is exhausted, the true TLC performance of 850 EVO then comes out. True / real TLC performance cannot compared to MLC. There is no doubt the SLC cache helps out a lot for 850 EVO. So, depending on your usage pattern, you may / may not experience TLC performance.

          Sequential speed is not important (unless you copy between SSDs a lot). However, 960 Pro certainly have much improved random read/write and can handle heavy workload much better.

          You will be able to notice the difference between 960 Pro and 850 EVO, but it won't be like the difference between a traditional hard disk and a SSD.

        • Thaal Sinestro on 13/09/2017 - 01:03

          Agreed. I have tested various SSDs over the years, and succeeding generations only have a small impact on real world tasks like OS startup and game loading, despite the large improvement in synthetic benchmark numbers. Any SSD is a major improvement over mechanical hard disks. For light computer users with few applications stored 120Gb is sufficient.

        • CBecksT on 13/09/2017 - 10:11

          @Thaal Sinestro: So if I have an existing 250GB 850Evo SSD, with the operating system that is installed and my games would this even be an upgrade?

          Currently I just shift games back and forth from my 2TB spinning drive to the SSD, whatever I am playing. Only take about 5 mins, but I know I have a spare m2 slot - is this worth the upgrade for anything other than the convenience factor? ie actual physicial game loading times? If it helps I currently have GTA5 and Tomb Raider on the SSD, but am looking at also throwing on Destiny2 but don't have the room.

        • hengzhan on 13/09/2017 - 11:34

          Why are people downvoting this??

  • Circly on 12/09/2017 - 14:24

    Would these be compatible with the XPS 8920 desktop?

  • congo on 12/09/2017 - 14:35
    +1

    I have this motherboard: http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-Z97X-UD5H-rev-10#sp
    My GPU takes up 2 PCIe slots. Do I have room for another adapter like:
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PCI-E-3-0-x4-Adapter-Converter-Ca…

    Will this adapter running at X4 (what ever that means) supports 32GB bandwidth?

    • hollykryten on 12/09/2017 - 15:16

      I would suggest not using that cheap crappy generic card and get a proper branded card like this one. Sure atleast it costs about 2.5 times as much but atleast it isn't going to be total crap. And yes it supports PCI-E x4 bandwidth. I mean gee on a $311 M.2 SSD you're going to skimp out on the quality of the M.2 adapter card otherwise.

      https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36819/silverstone-ecm21-…

      • congo on 12/09/2017 - 15:38

        OK, thanks!

      • lowey71 on 12/09/2017 - 16:16
        +1

        To be honest, they both appear to be pretty 'dumb' devices AFAIK (no ICs). Just an interface adaptor.
        Not sure what difference there ultimately is, apart from the price.

        • congo on 12/09/2017 - 22:27

          Is there one that you can recommend? Or are they all similar?

    • Crownie on 17/09/2017 - 15:52

      I have the same mobo as you so I'm curious to see how your PCIe upgrade goes.
      A 512GB Samsung 850 PRO 2.5" SSD is around the same price so buying/upgrading to an M2 even with 10Gb/s bandwidth on the slot might be good.

      • congo on 17/09/2017 - 17:30

        Ok. I let you know. Mhavent got the adapter yet.

  • bhm133 on 12/09/2017 - 15:17

    Why no 2240 love?

  • [Deactivated] on 12/09/2017 - 15:28

    I have an i5 3570k CPU with asus motherboard can I use this with a pcie adapter of some sort??

    • congo on 12/09/2017 - 15:46

      If you have spare pcie slots?

    • xuqi on 12/09/2017 - 17:09

      Even if you get it to work with an adpator (Z68/Z77 chipsets were never designed for NvME), it won't be anywhere near its full speed and you won't be able to boot from it.

      • [Deactivated] on 12/09/2017 - 18:05

        Thanks! :)

  • congo on 12/09/2017 - 15:44

    Does anyone knows if the Z97X motherboard can boot from SSD on PCI-E adapter?
    Is this a setting in the BIOS somewhere?

    • bogak on 12/09/2017 - 16:05
      +1

      It will be in the BIOS. "Boot from: PCI-E or SATA". A BIOS update will probably make it work.

      Note that even if you can boot from PCI-E and you install a NVME M.2 SSD drive like this one here it probably won't even go the rated speed as your motherboard doesn't support NVME drives.
      Worse case, it won't even see the drive at all.
      Best case, it will boot but only run at PCI-E 1x or 2x.

      I have seen a motherboard that it boots but it only ran at SATA3 speeds and it disabled 2 SATA ports.

      • hollykryten on 12/09/2017 - 16:08
        +1

        Excuse me but you are wrong as the Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H motherboard has an M.2 PCI-E connector (M key) on it which means it natively supports NVME drives. NVME SSD drives are PCI-E and M key. It has PCI-E SSD support (NVME). This motherboard will support NVME boot too, it does by default since the BIOS supports it.

        "Chipset:
        1 x M.2 PCIe connector
        (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280 SATA & PCIe SSD support)"

        http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-Z97X-UD5H-rev-10#sp

        • bogak on 12/09/2017 - 16:13
          +1

          He's asking if it will boot off a PCI-E adapter, and from that i assume he means a M.2 PCI-E adapter that goes in one of the PCI-E slots. Not from the M.2 slot that's already available on the motherboard.

        • hollykryten on 12/09/2017 - 16:14
          +1

          @bogak:

          Yeah it would do if the BIOS natively supports NVME SSD drives which it does. The support is in the BIOS. There should be no problems and it will also run at PCI-E x4 bandwidth speed on that PCI-E x4 M key SSD adapter card.

        • bogak on 12/09/2017 - 16:20
          +1

          @hollykryten:
          yep that's true
          though according to this, it only runs at x2
          http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3026517/gigabyte-z97m…
          I guess with the PCI-E adapter it could go 4x

          Edit: i mean the M.2 only runs at x2, which sux.

        • hollykryten on 12/09/2017 - 16:29
          +1

          @bogak:

          I'm thinking they are talking about the M.2 slot itself on the motherboard is limited to x2 speed. That's got nothing to do with if you are using an x4 PCI-E adapter card. It would run at the x4 speed on the adapter.

      • Diji1 on 12/09/2017 - 16:32

        and it disabled 2 SATA ports.

        That usually means 2 SATA ports that can get used for SATA-Express rather than 2 SATA ports that you would ordinarily use. Some motherboards (or chipsets?) you can supposedly use the SATA-Express ports as 2 regular SATA ports and you would lose these in that scenario.

        • congo on 12/09/2017 - 18:04

          Thanks for the inputs.
          Guess I have to do a bit more research on compatibility first.
          Cheers.

        • Crownie on 17/09/2017 - 15:54

          @congngo:
          Also interested as have same mobo as you. Let me know about your research.

  • maxyzee on 12/09/2017 - 16:50

    Dammit I got the 960 Evo from MSY a few weeks ago for $323. This is a fantastic price if you're after a high performance SSD. Ah well I got some usage out of it before seeing this.

  • frewer on 12/09/2017 - 16:55

    Noob question this deal vs an Intel SSD 128GB, Im so 'behind' with these tech. Some one quotes
    this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PCI-E-3-0-x4-Adapter-Converter-Ca…
    as a cheaper upgrade for SSD.

    • vee124 on 12/09/2017 - 16:58
      +1

      This is much faster than the intel counterpart.

    • mokkzzz on 12/09/2017 - 17:06

      In a more objective measurement…

      Intel Read speed: ~500 Mb/s maybe less..
      960 Pro speed: ~3500 Mb/s

      Probably not accurate but you get the idea.

    • frewer on 12/09/2017 - 21:37

      Right … thank you for that. The Intel SSD I have at least 3yrs+ old … I will wait for boxing day sale still

  • Witchdoctr on 12/09/2017 - 17:46
    +1

    Thanks OP! Long time lurker, but had to sign up to say thanks for saving me $100!

    Been on the hunt for a NVME Drive since moving to an AMD Ryzen build.

    Cheers again

  • Worf on 12/09/2017 - 17:49

    will this work in a Macbook Air (early 2014 model)?

    • uraha on 12/09/2017 - 18:53

      no

  • lostn on 12/09/2017 - 20:43

    I would normally recommend Evo over the Pro (I own the Pro) but for this price, I'd say go for it.

  • Ryuo on 12/09/2017 - 21:03
    +1

    Honestly, I have been undecided about spending $160 on a 4tb HDD for the last few months but after the hype on Ozbargin around the price drop/performance there goes $311 out of my wallet…

  • jimbler on 12/09/2017 - 21:11

    Can someone tell me if it's compatible with this laptop? Cheers

    http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/421368/NOTEBOOKS_17_SCREEN/Gigab…

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