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Dell RYZEN 5 Gaming PC - R5 1600X, RX 570 4GB, 8GB DDR4 2400, 128GB SSD + 1TB HDD - $1199.20 Delivered @ Dell eBay

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Needed a new computer to do some video editing work, been watching the ebay deals but nothing too exciting until this Dell Ryzen price dropped from 1699 to 1499.
Seems about the same price or slightly cheaper than building it myself.

$80 cheaper than this deal a few weeks ago https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/323906
Not everyone happy with the specs from the last deal but suited my needs, just need to add another 8gb ram

There are only 2 memory card slots but there are also 2 m2 slots.

You can check out the inside of the case on these videos:
https://youtu.be/kqNXUVcvu_k
https://youtu.be/UVw9VuofPzU

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  • +8 votes

    The specs are great for the price but that I/O is really good.
    Front USB-C and 802.11ac 2x2 + Bluetooth 4.1 is really amazing.

  • +14 votes

    Finally AMD is back!!

  • +3 votes

    https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pWWc8K
    Buying this eBay deal seems like a great deal. I quickly put this together and it worked out to be this. And with a few. Better things

    • +4 votes

      forgot the windows 10 home license to match the Dell offering

      • +5 votes

        Also the keyboard & mouse and the Wifi on board.

      • +7 votes

        Doesn't matter, still cheaper here. Better buying it off here if you are not bothered to build it. Building it is fun but takes time

        • +3 votes

          One could always buy this, disassemble it, then build it back up. :)

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      the discount ebay includes individual pc component as well! with the savings, i'd go ham on psu

  • +1 vote

    Sorry a bit of noob question here - does it include a wifi card?

  • +4 votes

    Let down by low RAM speed which matters a lot on Ryzen and lack of USB 3.1 Gen2.

    • +4 votes

      Real world performance loss isn’t highly likely to matter
      Maybe some games and frame rates but not likely to be a big difference

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        Ryzen infinity fabric clock speed matches memory clock speed
        This is pretty significant in real world performance. Overclocking my RAM from 2933 to 3200 MHz yielded a difference of 5-7% in frame rates. From 2400 to 3200MHz is likely to triple that.

        • +5 votes

          I don't think it scales up the way you think it does.

          As far as I've read, its about a 4% improvement going from 2133MHz to 2400MHz.
          Then another 4% improvement going from 2400MHz to 2800MHz.
          And another 3% improvement going from 2800MHz to 3200MHz.
          There's very negligible improvements going above 3200MHz, besides those RAM exists mostly in labs or are crazy expensive.
          …most systems come with a Single 8GB-2400MHz, so you're gonna see a ~8 % (or an +3 fps) improvement going to a Dual 8GB-3200MHz.

          You're more likely to get better and more consistent improvements system-wide (ie/ not just games) if you instead overclock the CPU by 8% from 3.6GHz to 3.9GHz.

          However, the >20% improvements you've heard about aren't really true.
          The motherboard bios issues have seemingly been fixed, and the only way to get figures close to that would be to benchmark a system with a Ryzen 1200<->1500X (ie/ CPU limited), paired with a bottlenecked high-end GPU (GTX 1070, or better), playing bandwidth-hungry titles like WatchDogs_2 or Ashes of the Singularity, and upgrade from a RAM kit of 2400MHz (or lower) to a 3200MHz (or higher)….especially true if you're upgrading from a single-ram stick to a Dual or Quad channel.

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          @Kangal:
          I've only added my own experience with overclocking the RAM on a Ryzen 7, YMMV. However, I should add that another factor that might have affected the performance is the BIOS update that allowed the overclocking of the RAM. By all accounts, at the higher end, RAM speed matters more to Ryzen than Intel Core CPU, but as with all things, the law of diminishing returns applies. It seems that 3200MHz is the sweet spot, anything above that would be a poor way to spend your money.

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      Not such a big deal with Ryzen 5 and 3.

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      I don't know enough to comment on the effect of ram speed on productivity/editing workloads but as far as gaming goes, ram speed scales on Ryzen depending on your GPU.

      At 1080p with an RX 570, I believe you'd see very minimal gaming performance gains in this system with faster ram as per this video here. I don't think the vastly inflated cost to go from 2400 to 3200 is where money should be spent on a $1200 system if your primary purpose is gaming.

      tldr: 2400mhz ram in a prebuilt $1200 system is fine IF you're just gaming.

  • +27 votes

    as someone who's built every PC he's owned for the past 20 years, these seem like a pretty decent deal.

    if you're in the market for something like this but don't want the potential hassle of having 1 faulty component drive you utterly goddamn insane for 6 months, you can never underestimate the peace of mind of having a fully built (and tested) system.

    totally drop a second stick of ram and an SSD in it, though.

    (edit: i watched the Linus video and he said there was no SSD, didnt actually read this listing - it has an SSD… but still get the 2nd stick of RAM :D)

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      Would I need to install the second stick of RAM myself? If so, won't that void the Dell warranty?

      Also, would I need to get matched 2 x 8GB RAM sticks instead of simply adding a second 8GB stick (assuming they currently use a 1 x 8Gb and not 2 x 4GB)?

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        I don't imagine it would void the warranty. If you have any issues and need to use the warranty, you could just pull the stick out.

        I think you can mix and match RAM. It's always best to use the exact same stick to avoid any issues.

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      My thoughts exactly. I've been building them for close to 3 decades now and for that price and spec sheet, I'd consider it.

  • +1 vote

    Good deal. However I would pay a little more to jump to 8GB RX580. Can get deals on these from ebay Futu etc.
    Doing your own build can get a better case, larger hdd etc.

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    Does the motherboard support overclocking? Doesn't say whether the motherboard is A320 or B350…

  • +1 vote

    CPU: ~$300
    MB: ~$170 (x370 MB on sales)
    GPU: ~$350
    RAM: ~$100
    HD: ~$50
    SSD: $99 (Intel 600p)
    PSU: ~$50 (ie thermaltake OEM 500W)
    Case: ~$50
    + Shipping

    Total: ~$1200 ($1169 + postage)

    Basically you're getting this pre-built for free, beyond that it's about the right deal price. This assumes it is the model with an x370 MB, if not it's around $50-70 over priced.

    Edit: there's also a mouse and keyboard included for those who need that…

    • +1 vote

      you forgot windows.

      basically if your a PC builder, you would build one yourself. if your not a PC builder this is a pretty good deal.

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        Home edition is basically free. If you're building a PC, you'll know how to get legitimate copies for free.

        This deal I wouldn't consider bad for even those wishing to custom build if this is the parts they were looking at. It's quite a unique combination of parts, so it may be a case of paying extra for parts you weren't going to originally get, making it not as much of a deal.

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          people who build PCs and know how to get windows won't buy this deal. this is for the people that don't build PCs and don't know how to get windows.

        • +4 votes

          @xEnt:
          Usually this is correct for most prebuilt deals, but in this case the prebuilt is the same price as the average bargain prices for all the parts. If for whatever reason someone was going to make a custom build with these exact parts, this isn't a bad alternative. Saves them having to shop around and the couple of hours of assembly.

          That's a big if though - as mentioned it's a unique build and I'm not sure if anyone would be after these exact parts. A custom builder would most likely go with a 1060 3GB (cheaper performance for the price) for around ~$250-270 or 1060 6GB for ~$300. When you factor this in, it's a little higher price than what you could custom build at… But if someone really wants these exact parts, it's the cheapest then.

          tl;dr: 570 isn't as price efficient as it was aimed to be, a more price efficient alternative in a custom build would be cheaper. If someone wants a 570 still, this is cheaper than even custom building.

          Edit: Apparently even the 1060 3GB benchmarks well against the RX 570… This further enforces this.

        • +3 votes

          @xEnt: I build PC's and have been since the 90's and I'd purchase this if I was in the market for a new pc.

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          Out of curiosity, how does one get a free copy of home edition? For my build I had a legit key I got through dreamspark, but wondering for next build.
          Saw the comment below

        • +1 vote

          @chumlol:
          You can also just create a boot USB and use it to 'upgrade' a current installation, you'll automatically receive a digital windows license after the installation completes.

      • +1 vote

        Sign up for Windows insider and it's basically free.

        Otherwise, gaming on Linux is a very viable thing these days.

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          I heard it's fitted with a keylogger……..so not exactly ideal if you wanna use it for personal things too…

  • +1 vote

    Im not rush to buy a new computer so my question is ,which deal is better https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/316190 this one or the recent one?

    • +4 votes

      The 1070 is a much more powerful GPU and that system has double the RAM of this as well as double the capacity for the SSD and HDD. If you're primarily gaming, that system is a much better buy.

      This one has an arguably better CPU in some workloads (6 cores vs 4) and is obviously cheaper.

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        If only that Dell with the better looking case, had the AM4 motherboard (longer service) and the r5-1600X chip (just as good single-core performance, better total/multicore performance). Shame.

        Something tells me this system has lower-grade parts (or lower-end of the quality spectrum).
        And also there might be compatibility issues in the future, as Dell has little to gain to allow/optimise the motherboard for future hardware.
        Examples/
        How decent is the quality will be of the integrated sound card/IO ?
        The cooler performance?
        And the PSU's plugs and efficiency rating?

        Does anyone know how locked-out the bios is?
        (It would suck if you can't overclock the CPU and RAM with it)

        Also does anyone know how cut-down the motherboard is?
        (I only see less PCIe lanes (2x PCIe1 instead of 4x PCIe1, after accounting the Crossfire and M.2 slots))

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      I always thought we got that price because they forgot to jack up the price,and you might need to wait a bit longer for it to be the same price again.

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        would buy that one if it was available - gtx 1070 craps all over the rx 370 and comes with a larger SSD and more ram

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      You might consider selling the RX 570 and getting a ~1070/vega 56, you'll probably end up around the same price as that older deal but with better cpu. Not sure how the mining demand for 570s are anymore, though. Also obviously this is probably gonna give you warranty issues.

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    But can it Hackintosh?

  • +5 votes

    lmao so many badasses commenting saying they could build this for cheaper. Who are you trying to impress?

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    money money money, it's not funny, when it's a rich man's world

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    Another noob question, but would I be able to add another GPU for crossfire config? Or just direct swap out 570 with a 1060 perhaps be easier?

    • +2 votes

      You'd be better off buying a powerful single card than Crossfire.

    • +1 vote

      It has the PCIe power connectors for it and linus mentions here the motherboard supports crossfire (you can also see the power connectors in that shot). it'll be tight though.
      On the other hand dual GPU performance and compatibility is usually not worth it compared to just getting a better performing card.
      On that note, if the PSU can handle a 570 it can handle a 1060 6gb, but it seems to have a little more leeway so you'll probably be able to manage a 1070 or 1080, but at that point it will probably be cheaper to build your own, it is a solid upgrade plan for the future though

  • +1 vote

    Nice Deal, I'm about to grab it! Thanks OP. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good value screen for it? Thank you :)

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    is this a good deal https://www.centrecom.com.au/centre-com-ryzen-core-desktop compared to ops post, i got it on my email recently

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      It's easier to build a cheaper but equal PC to that than the Dell, but if you're afraid of building your own PC or opening up the Dell to upgrade the RAM and SSD to the equivalents of that, it's not a terrible deal for that sort of customer.
      Though for someone like that i'd still recommend the dell, Dell warranty is pretty good and the Dell has more features like wifi, bluetooth, a DVD drive, Also the lower SSD and RAM capacities are manageable consequences for saving $350

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        definitely would upgrade stuff on my own but in plain comparison is the price reasonable at centercom or the dell version, i always thought buying branded pc is always a lot more expensive, rather then buying one custom made from a computer store.

        I don't know much about AMD comparison to Intel's i5/i7's capabilites for longer running and or gaming, but willing to jump into the band wagon is these new AMD are more affordable but performed just as well.

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          If you're fine with upgrading the dell is better.
          You can get a 240GB SSD and 8GB RAM stick for like $200 so when you factor in shipping you save about $200 by going with the dell and you get to keep the original 128GB SSD to turn into a usb hard drive or something
          As for AMD performance in games, it's a bit complicated. Ryzen doesn't get as high average framerates as intel CPUs but it's minimum framerates are rarely worse. So intel is better for high frame rate monitors, but that's mostly only the 7700k. The intel CPUs definitely have an edge in gaming but on price/performance AMD is competitive, and for things other than gaming it kicks the crap out of intel.
          Though if you want to run CEMU (Wii u emulator) you should go intel, Cemu really needs high clock speeds.

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    For someone who has taken care of his last Dell XPS tower which is coming up to 5 years old - do you think this would last a good 5 years moving forward? General uses: Casual gaming, home storage of movies/pictures, photoshop and net browsing

    If i break it down to only being $240 a year then i can justify it >_<

    • +1 vote

      Possibly a little too good for casual gaming. Very capable machine

    • +2 votes

      Your 5 yrs old Dell XPS should still be up to the task for what you're doing. It would be cheaper to max out the RAM and get a better graphics card for it. That should last you several more years at least. You could upgrade the CPU cheaply too if that's an option.

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    Hi all, awesome deal,defo considering this

    Can anybody confirm this has dual ports on the GFX card for dual monitor support?
    on the tech specs, it appears x1 HDMI port but this specific graphics card on a google search appears to have multiple connections.

    any comments appreciated.

    Thanks

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      The specs on dell's site says the same about the 580 version too but the videos in OP show it has 3 full size Display ports.
      I'd wager the 570 is the same since that port layout is identical to the stock RX 480 card and the stock 470s looked like that too.

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    Is upgrade RAM and install a different SSD gonna void the warranty?

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      Ssds' and hdd are fine.
      Ram are fine as well. It's best to have the same rams though

    • +1 vote

      I gonna need to add 1 more 512 SSD and at least another 8 GB Ram if not more on this system. Luckily I can pull out my old SSD out of my old system.
      Is this system gonna handle 1440 well?

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        @gozyla86

        I know this is an old thread - I am hoping you can tell me if you upgraded the RAM and if so, what RAM you bought (eg model,speed) and from where.

        I just purchased this system from this deal and would like to purchase another 8 GB stick of RAM while I wait for it to be delivered.

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    Which would be the better investment? Buying one of these to mine ethereum or putting it all on red?

  • +1 vote

    For an extra $160.00 would I be better off getting this one? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-XPS-8920-Tower-Desktop-7th-G...

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    Understood it doesn't come with Win 10 Pro, and so there will be no BitLocker…but MS articles online indicate that certain 'newer' devices running Win 10 Home will have access to Drive Encryption only.

    Does anyone have any idea if this specific PC is compatible with Windows 10 Drive Encryption?

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