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Optus Unlimited Mobile Data from $60/Mth

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Received an email today for an invitation to the following:

We're proud to announce we're now offering unlimited mobile data on our Unleashed SIM Only plans and we want you to be the first to try it.
You bring the phone and we'll provide the SIM when you switch to our 12 month, Unleashed SIM Only plan.
Offer ends 13 April 2018, unless withdrawn earlier.

First SIM - $60/mth
Add 2nd SIM - $50/mth
Add 3rd SIM - $40/mth

Plan's CIS thanks to subee.

It seems like you need a unique code to be sent to your email to apply for the plan.

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        • This is Optus.

          Enough people use them and don't have a problem that your comment isn't really helpful as you are talking about billing related issues which 99.99% of people won't even deal with.

        • @samfisher5986: no you don't get the Point, I am talking about customer service. All about customer service, they disconnect service without contactinf customer beforehand. Now the landline number can never be the same after disconnection. They made mistake sending wrong phone and can not fix their problem but throw customer to debt collection company. They treat customer bad is all I experienced.

        • +1

          @ghostdom:

          Again

          99.99% of people will not even have contact with them.

        • @samfisher5986: so they can't make the rest 0.01% customer satisfied.

        • Depends how you contact them. Do it on their yescrowd site and the world can read it. It means they tend to solve things correctly over there.

        • +2

          @ghostdom: Yea nah, it is impossible to satisfy 100% of customers.

          The disconnection after 3 months of non-payment is fair, and is practised by every network provider. Customer service isn't going to call to remind you to pay your bills; paying bills on time is your responsibility.

          Being sent the wrong phone is pretty unlucky, though.

    • +11

      Most of this is your fault not Optus dude

      • -7

        Explain dude.

        • +6

          You don't check your bills?

        • +11

          For a start, not updating your credit cards details for direct debit is 100% your fault. I didn't read the rest of your wall of text but I'll say all is your fault aswell. :)

        • +1

          it's 100% your responsibility to ensure your details and bank details are correct. If you didn't know that or even tried to acknowledge this, you shouldn't be signing up to any kind of plans. Sole reason why you should always read TERMS & CONDITIONS

    • +1

      I read this in Wakandan accent. I forget to updet my direct debet

      • get dis man a shield!

  • +1

    you'd be hard pressed hitting any remarkable download numbers at the capped speeds… seems more of a marketing push to use unlimited in the plan lol

    • +3

      ~485GB by my calculations if you streamed at 1.5Mbps 24/7 for a month.

      • +2

        streaming on 150KB/ps (throughput)? … hmmm lol

      • -1

        How did you get that?

        0.15x60x60x24x31 = 401760 which is 401GB

        • +1

          It is 1.5Mbps, which is 0.1875MBps (8 bits in a byte), not 0.15MBps

        • @Fiximol: ahhhh, the 8 bits in a byte always gets me~~~

        • @Fiximol: it doesn't convert like that because of TCP overheads. Dividing by 10 is more accurate. 8 is the theoretical max but doesn't take packet overheads into considerations. Plus it's easier to divide by 10 also

  • +2

    I have a 200gb plan with Optus and the speeds are so slow, even in good 4G areas. Everything is at around 1mbps it's almost unusable. Can't even Chromecast. Multiple complaints to Optus and it sped up for a while but now it's slow again.
    YMMV

    • Don't get reception in inner city office and home

    • location dependent. My Father in law is on their 140gig 4G sim and he gets about 50-70mbps

      • I used to get those speeds when I had a 5gb plan. So decided to ditch my broadband and just use a 200gb plan. Now speed is dead so who knows.

    • It’s the backhaul speed and overcrowded cells that degrade the service. If you don’t have an ISO downloaded on the cell you can normally time when you start to get shitty speeds. So it depends if Optus will invest in a cell tower to lift bandwidth, and that is dependent on revenue and costs involved.

      I picked up 262Mbps on a cell tower early morning. Come 830am it dropped to 70Mbps. See below for the 262 and speed right now.

      http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/2413235901

      http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/2529355549

  • From the T&Cs I'd agree it is just pretty much "Unlimited at 1.5MBps" :P

    … I guess that's considered good service compared to their existing Cable and NBN services which are 0.000001MBps 50% of the time!

    • Yeah I know. The worst part is they won't let you get out of the contract once you're locked in.

      • +1

        Um… Are you sure? (Did you read the terms & conditions?) The reason I ask, with their 100GB/140GB plans you can cancel a contract. But you have to pay a pro-rata amount for any device that came as part of the plan, plus pay for the last month of service.

        So for example, if you got a $70/m 100GB 24 month plan that came with a free ipad, then cancelled after 4 months, you'd owe them a pro-rata amount of whatever they originally valued the ipad as, plus $70. If they valued the ipad at $800, you divide $800 by 24 months, times it by the 20 months remaining of the contract… plus $70 for the last month

        So: $800 / 24 * 20 = $666.67 + $70 = $736.67

        I'd be surprised if they didn't have a similar way of cancelling for all their plans.

        • +1

          I’m talking about their NBN and cable service. They make you pay the remaining off which is still quite a lot. Hence why I’m locked in.

        • @nightelves: Ugh. Ok.

    • 1.5mbps is for streaming services eg Netflix, it stops people tethering, select HD and going for broke…. else everybody would dump their home internet and just use this and stream Netflix at 1080p …..

      If you are doing torrents it much faster than 1.5mbps….. the 1.5mbps for some streaming services (Netflix) has been in place for a long time and doesn't come off your allowances

  • +8

    This is hideous. Basically anything useful you want to do with your data is capped at 1.5mbps & if they deem you a heavy user… Even slower. Then they throw in their fair go policy to boot.

  • I wish that they would bring this to Vividwireless. I'd trade 5/1 (or 12/1) for 1.5/1.5 since mostly uploading.

  • +7

    very much "limited" , so title deceptive.

  • +10

    Slow speed. "Heavy data users may be deprioritised"

  • I think I will stay with Boost.

  • +7

    Given the limited speed, they should've got a marathon runner to promote it, not a sprinter.

  • +7

    "For use in smartphones and some tablet devices only. Music and Video streaming, downloads and tethering at 1.5Mbps."

    Yeah okay I'll go back to ADSL1 thanks

    • +1

      You take your ADSL modem everywhere you go?

      • I take my mobile phone everywhere I go, and I have ADSL at home and work. All are quicker than this, and phone data is currently adequate for when I'm away from home.

    • -2

      I managed to hack the limitation of using a tablet and modem sim in a phone so hopefully I can hack this too.

      Also managed to remove the outgoing/incoming call restriction on data Sims.

      • How do they charge for outgoing calls?

      • You realise that call and data throttling restrictions are applied at the telco, not the SIM, right?

        How did you do this?

  • I'm ineligible anyway. but just confirming is this for DATA only plans e.g for the iPad. Not the normal mobile plans (i.e including Calls etc)

  • Anyone been able to enrol?

  • +1

    I have 100gb/75m(ipadpro) which I consolidated with my 15gb/30m plan and could never finish 115gb a month! This is with heavy HD Youtube use at work. Unlimited is overkill either way with the throttling.

  • +12

    This needs to be sent to the ACCC, not even close to unlimited.

    • +7

      Do it!

    • -4

      Does it make you happy doing these sort of things? These guys are disrupting the market. If you're so unhappy with change happening, then join Telstra. I'm very sure they won't be giving you competition until optus initiates it to them

      • +11

        So are you happy that people get mislead by fake advertising?

        This isn't change, it's a scam.

        • +1

          How is this a scam?

        • @PR0r: because heavy data users may be depriortised during peak periods meaning that the already slow 1.5mbps is even slower.
          The system is discriminates against data capped users va uncapped users.
          Unlimited should be offering the exact same service as everyone else

        • -1

          @coco1458:

          Heavy data users should know better to choose a more appropriate option than this.

          If your usage every month is gonna be different to the general population then pay more for it. Don't go for a value wireless option to replace your landline.

          These heavy users are the ones clogging up the network for pretty much everyone else.

        • @coco1458: Does it state 1.5mbps max or just for the mentioned uses? Is there fine print that clarifies this?

        • +2

          @fuzor: If you're not a heavy user then why get an unlimited plan?

        • -1

          @macrocephalic:

          There's a difference between advise because it's unlimited to having a safety net/convenience

        • @PR0r: It states 1.5mbps if tethering, which pretty much means full service speed if you're just using it on your phone. Although I do wonder if an unlimited service is saturating the local tower, will it get automatically slowed down?

          Like if you torrent from your phone, it's theoretically not going to throttle your speed.
          I think the ACCC will investigate just because it needs to make clear of the term "unlimited"

  • -3

    Happy to Piggy back with someone for second or third sim

    • -1

      Sign up and get a second sim sent to me, and I'll give you $55 / month (for as long as it keeps working).
      I'll be tethering with the dun=1 'hack' so that Optus can't see it, and using a VPN the entire time.

  • +5

    Assuming you use the internet to download extensively everyday say 12 hours/day, here's the math

    1,5Mbps/8 = 0,1875 MB/s

    12 hours * 60 * 60 = 43.200 seconds

    Each day you could download 0.1875 MB/s * 43.200 s = 8.100 MB = 8.1 GB

    That would be around 8.1 GB * 30 = 243 GB per month assuming the internet is always stable at that speed.

    8GB of data for 12 hours is really slow though!!!!

    • Good maths, don't look quite as awesome when you break it down that way.

      Pretty happy with the 100GB I get on Telstra at the moment (sure it's $199, but I use the overseas stuff a lot).

      • +1

        $199 - ouch. I get the same 100GB on Optus for $70/m. And it came with a free 9.7" ipad that I sold for… um… I forget now - $530 maybe? I know it effectively reduced the monthly cost to about $47 anyway.

        Then they had the December plans which were even cheaper.

    • So when's dial up coming back? At least I can expect google to load in 5 minutes

    • That is on the assumption that you don't get flagged for the fair usage policy

  • I wonder what would happen if you were using a VPN? Plenty of VPNs that offer 10MB/s (so 80Mbps) these days, I wonder if that traffic is "deprioritised" and throttled too.

    If not, fast everything! :D

    • +1

      It'll probably be more like "full speed for ten seconds, then throttled hard" — for all data sources that isn't plain HTTP through the Optus transparent proxy.

      • They'd have to justify that Since they don't say anything about VPN or HTTP S in those conditions that I can see (without delving into the full long terms and conditions).

        • Well, they tend to have some clause in there that allows them to change anything they like. e.g. A couple of months ago they just decided they would charge more for not paying via direct debit.

        • @GregMonarch: shifty bastards.

  • +6

    Absolutely brilliant. Net neutrality starting in Australia now

    • Your sister is ugly, Kim.

      • +1

        thank you, it runs in the family

  • +1

    Unlimited data is useless when OPTUS reception is so terribad in Sydney, I recommend them in Melbourne or Gold Coast though

    Sticking to my Telstra 25gig plan for $49 for now :P

  • Instead of "unlimited" that they can't possibly live up to, why can't they just continue what they are doing and continue to offer bigger and bigger quotas as capacity improves :/

    Also, everything that isn't an "upload" is technically a "download" so it seems likely they can shape your speed for whatever reason they deem fit.

    • They're doing both.

      And it makes sense they would only limit speeds if it becomes necessary - which is probably done automatically on a tower-by-tower basis. So this one would be for people that want the internet everywhere they go, downloads lots of apps, listens to online radio…

  • I bet "shadowsocks" (google it) will get your full speed on youtube, netflix, etc.

    • Hm… I wonder if that would work with Telstra Air?

  • Okay…. so there’s a lot of talk in this thread about using a VPN. No one is talking about choosing a good one. One of the first things on my list would be whether I can trust that VPN won’t abuse my personal data

    • Roll your own. Plenty of linode $20 coupons kicking about. That's 4 months free on the $5 box.
      12 months free ec2 in Sydney as well.

  • +1

    If this was paired with unlimited calls and text and didn't clamp app store downloads, I'd call it good value.

    With such sketchy details, it's hard to know.

      1. Isn't it a mobile broadband (data only) SIM?
      2. It's unlimited downloads. And I'm pretty sure even if apps are restricted, you can still access Google Play via a normal browser. I think I did so a few days ago.
        1. Yeah I'm pretty sure that's what it is.

        2. There's shaping on downloads, amongst other things. If it excludes store updates (i.e. you can update and use most of your app content without being throttled), then it might be ok as an approach going into the future.

  • Unlimited Plex stream? Yes pls

    Edit: just seen the throttle notes, nvm lol

  • +1
    • "CAV began its investigation earlier this year, when Primus launched an "unlimited" broadband plan with only 500MB of downloads before it slowed to dialup speeds. "

      Then I realised the article was from 2005 haha!

  • +5

    Inlcudes unlimited talk and text
    Unlimited Talk & Text
    Standard Australian mobiles and landlines,
    13/1300 numbers and voicemail.
    Standard national SMS and MMS.

    Up to 5 services can be unleashed
    Your 1st service: $60 per month;
    Your 2nd service: $50 per month;
    Your 3rd service: $40 per month;
    Your 4th service: $40 per month;
    Your 5th service: $40 per month;

    Search for CIS 800848 at http://www.optus.com.au/shop/allcis

    http://www.optus.com.au/opfiles/Shop/All/cis/Cis%20Documents…

  • +2

    What a garbage deal

  • +1

    “Limited by bandwidth” product

  • Optus unlimited data lol

  • +1

    Looking at the way the CIS is worded, it appears only the downloading, tethering and streaming of Music and Movies are capped, other downloads don't seem to be capped. This might be up my alley since I rarely download & stream music and movies, but I do download HEAPS of games on Steam and consoles.

    Currently on 280GB/$105/m with Optus, and I already chew through that easily.

    • Isn’t it for mobile phone?
      Not for mobile Internet with a dongle

      • Doesn't mean you can't put the SIM card into an Optus mobile broadband modem anyway. Just won't be able to make/receive calls.

    • Exactly what I was thinking.

  • Plan meant to work with your smartphone. Why watch 4k on a 6 inch screen, would you notice? The plan offer is limit to invite only therefore it is not open season on the network. It is clearly not meant to replace your home broadband.

  • 1.5Mbps is only good for browsing the internet with extremely poor streaming capabilities.

    I would highly advise against anyone taking up this deal

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