out of stock Sony WH-1000XM2BME $359 ($339 for New Users) @ Amazon AU

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I'm finding bargains for WH-1000XM2 and it seems to be the cheapest in these two weeks.

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Thanks to James, you can save 5% from Cashreward and 10% from NAB to make it better

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  • +3 votes

    5% cashreward & 10% NAB will make it better, no as good as JB deal though.

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    great price bought one

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    didn't know anything about these headphones when they had that holy deal at jb :(

    Any expert ozbargainers - is this likely to be the cheapest in the next 2 weeks?

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      In the next 2 weeks - maybe. If there is going to be a better deal, I do not expect it will be way better.

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    Dont know whether to wait or get them now as a birthday gift for myself. Any suggestions people?

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      I am also concerning if JB will have the deal again but I can't wait lol

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        haha so you are getting them now? I might as well but on the other hand its like have waited so long might wait for a bit more.

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    Is this headphone Sony's equivalent of the Bose QC35?

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      Yes but better

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        I got both this model and the Bose QC35.

        I found I like the QC35 a lot more:
        1. The adaptive function of this model is annoying, and I turn it off.
        2. The touch sensitive control makes it slower to change the volume. It also often accidentally switch off if it touches your whole hand/shoulder.
        3. It turns on/off by holding the power button, instead of much simpler switch.
        4. It's heavier.

        For these reasons, I would spend more on Bose any day.

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          I also got both models and I prefer QC35 too. Main reason is the sound quality. I don't know why many reviews say the 1000xm2 sounds better but to my ears they sound much worse than the QC35.

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          @ttkc: Maybe you can play around the equaliser to fix that.

          To me the Sony is like Kia with all fancy features, sunroof, etc, but it's still a Kia.
          Bose is like BMW that just works. It may not have sunroof or window's blind, but it's still fancier.

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          @ttkc: I find that the sound quality of my 1000XM2 is considerably reduced when noise cancelling is on. This is kind of to be expected, but I was surprised how much this was the case. With noise cancelling off, the sound quality is extremely good.

          I do not know how much difference there is on the QC35.

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          @ttkc:

          You need to play higher quality audio files to hear the difference. I have all my music in lossless and the difference is night and day. You won't be able to hear a difference playing 320kbps MP3s from iTunes.

          "LDAC isn’t going to make a huge difference when streaming music from so-so quality services such as Spotify or Pandora."

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          @boohooimissout: this may the worst analogy i have ever heard.

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          @Erkel: as in the Sony are better?

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          1. The adaptive function of this model is annoying, and I turn it off.

          It isn't on by default, and like you said, you turn can turn it off and never think about it. Hardly a downside.

          1. The touch sensitive control makes it slower to change the volume. It also often accidentally switch off if it touches your whole hand/shoulder.

          What? It takes the same tenth of a second as clicking your phone or a bose button. And I don't even know how you could accidently press your ear against your shoulder and then swipe up. That's just weird.

          1. It turns on/off by holding the power button, instead of much simpler switch.

          Wow.

          1. It's heavier.

          234g vs 275g. I'm calling bullshit on anyone who thinks they can actually measure a 40 gram difference with their head.

          ….

          You sound like someone desperate to justify their purchase.


          So, the actual comparison for non aspies:

          • Both have apps that let you apply EQ, the Sony's also lets you adjust the NC for strength and direction if you really want for some reason. Either way, I can't imagine you ever use the app for either anyways.
          • Bose (subjectively) looks better. Either way, you look like a dweeby midlevel accountant.
          • Bose is more comfortable. Basically everyone agrees. The Sony's aren't uncomfortable, and I can easily wear them for a day without a problem. But still, comfort counts.
          • Sonys sound much better. The Bose are a muddy mess. Neither are amazing if you are used to good headphones. Subjective? Sure. But pretty much every review out there agrees on this, so take it as you will.
          • Sony NR works much better. Like, much, much better. Again, this may be subjective but I've never read a single opinion otherwise.
          • Sony have some tricks which actually come in handy, like covering the earcup to turn on the external mic and pass through environmental sounds, or the on-headphone button to quickly tune the NR to your environment (which makes a real-world difference).
          • Sony touch controls or Bose clicky buttons? I don't prefer either.
          • The Bose mic is much better shielded, so is better for calls. If you are the kind of person who makes phone calls through your headphones. Which is weird.
          • The Sonys have a better battery life by ~10hrs. Either one is long enough to get you through a long haul flight, and both have a quick topup feature so I dunno that it matters a huge amount.

          End of the day? It comes down to sound quality vs comfort. And that's a call for you to make.

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          @Make it so:

          I don't notice it any different really with NC on or off.

        • +4 votes

          You sound like someone desperate to justify their purchase.

          I own the Sony and not the Bose, so can speak without the bias of being desperate to justify my purchase.

          The touch controls have been my biggest gripe with the WH-1000XM2 - double tap for pause sometimes fails to register and requires multiple tries, it's easy to accidentally brush against the touch surface with my hand (especially when picking the headphones up) which tends to send a next/previous track command, and adjusting the volume is more hit-and-miss than with buttons (swipe-and-hold doesn't always register, and a swipe that's slanted a little too much toward the front will trigger next track instead).

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          I have had the Bose QC25 for 2-3 years now. Recently bought the Sony as I wanted a wireless model. I have only used it once on a long distance flight, but I agree the touch controls can be a touch annoying. It is pretty sensitive to the touch, so it is quite easy to accidentally press a command.

          It is not a deal breaker for me though. I use NC headphones mainly during air travel only, and do not play around with the controls much once the music starts playing.

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          @shadow131:

          Yes if you are an audiophile and have your music in a lossless format. The Sony does support the highest quality bluetooth streaming of all headphones.

          If you just stream music from Spotify on your phone just get whatever headphone you want, the quality is pretty much the same.

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          @jjcf:

          What? It takes the same tenth of a second as clicking your phone or a bose button. And I don't even know how you could accidently press your ear against your shoulder and then swipe up. That's just weird.

          I didn't say it swipe up. If I try to adjust the earcup, it does what I said.

          End of the day? It comes down to sound quality vs comfort. And that's a call for you to make.

          Exactly. I justified that it is not as comfortable as Bose. That is how I sound like. Not as desperate as you are it seems.

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          @Jabba the Hutt: couldn't agree more.

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          @Erkel: Are you claiming you can tell lossless from 320kbps? Have you done blind A-B tests?

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          @boohooimissout: I'm not desperate at all. I don't care about cheap headphones one way or another, I have the Sonys and I gave my wife the QC35s.

          But some people do care and it's a big purchase for them, so they deserve a better comparison than 'bose are better because dumb car analogy'.

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          @RyanMK: What headphones do you use when not in a plane?

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          @jjcf: very good summary cheers

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          @jjcf: which one is dumber, the dumb or dumb who is responding long and hard to the first dumb?

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          @boohooimissout: You seem quite desperate.lol

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          @Yesall: maybe something i said. Fair enough. I agree with kost comments in this page. While I like Sony, I prefer Bose. They just a little bit better imho.

          I use kia and BMW as an example because they have the same function and usually teh former comes with more features than the later. However the later are more expensive and regarded as better quality. It just works without needing to fiddle the settings.

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          @Erkel: That's because LDAC uses lossy compression and re-encoding files that have already been losslessly compressed such as mp3 leads to large losses in quality.

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          @fredblogs:

          With my regular routine, I mostly only listen to music on my earphones when I am at the gym. For that, I use a pair of Apple Earpods. I have a pair of Xiaomi Pistons as well for the rare occasions my Earpods run out of battery. The sound quality of the Earpods are nothing to shout home about, but they are so convenient for taking calls on the go.

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          @Diji1:

          Of course when you're streaming music wirelessly there will be compression. LDAC is the least compressed of all BT streaming formats, Bose headphones does not support LDAC.

          If you're gonna use LDAC you will not use mp3 files.

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          @fredblogs:

          Easily, especially if it's orchestral music. You can easily hear more depth with a FLAC than a 320 mp3.

          Obviously you'll need gear that supports higher quality streaming too. So listening a FLAC on a Bose is useless since Bose compresses alot more than the Sony headphone.

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          @boohooimissout: So it has very high maintenance costs and low reliability then?

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          @lostn: Nah, just lots of features that aren't useful.
          Lack of simplicity.

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          @boohooimissout: I was talking about the Bose/BMW.

          Nah, just lots of features that aren't useful.

          Those features are free. If they were removed, it would not have reduced the cost. They decided the price they wanted and built towards that price.

          Lack of simplicity.

          I don't know what you find complicated about it. It only has a few buttons. The gestures are simple to understand. It's better than having an inline remote, which you have to feel since you can't see the buttons. With the touch sensitive cup, you know exactly where it is, and what direction you need to swipe.

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          @lostn: I don't find the gestures simple to understand. I find it annoying and slow and prone to accidental swipe. I prefer buttons. To increase volume 3 times is so much faster. I find Bose buttons easy to locate.

          Like I also said above, the power button require long press, instead of a switch, if i dont press long enough, it won't turn on or off…

          These are minor gripes, some people may prefer sony still.

          Anyway, what's the point of you asking these questions?

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          @boohooimissout:

          I don't find the gestures simple to understand. I find it annoying and slow and prone to accidental swipe. I prefer buttons. To increase volume 3 times is so much faster. I find Bose buttons easy to locate.

          For some people some things are harder I guess.

          Like I also said above, the power button require long press, instead of a switch, if i dont press long enough, it won't turn on or off…

          Fewer buttons makes every button easier to locate. You are going to be feeling for them after all, not looking for them.

          Anyway, what's the point of you asking these questions?

          You will find I didn't ask a single question in the block you replied to. But what's the point in your asking what's the point in the questions? It's a discussion page. Questions and answers are par for the course, otherwise there's no point in having a discussion section.

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          touch sensitive control

          No thank you

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        I have the BOSE QC ii as well and I love it… It sounds great and the comfort is the best in the industry. However good the sound is, if its uncomfortable you wont like it after half an hour. So yes! BOSE will be my choice.

        EDIT: The battery life is awesome and the phone conversation and the noise cancelation is brilliant.

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      I have this headset and in my opinion it clamps down on the head with considerable force, I have to remove it after about 1 hour as it becomes uncomfortable. I have the older Bose QC15 and it is a lot more comfortable compared to the Sony, can have it on for a long haul flight without having to remove it at all. Secondly, the headband on my Sony has started creaking when putting it on / taking it off - this didn't happen for the first 2 months or so. Also, I find the sound quality a bit ordinary - personally my QC15 sounds as good and if not better than the Sony.

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        It does have more force than QC35, but not a lot more.

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        These are wear all day headphones for me and I have a big head..

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        I do not have the QC35, but I have the QC25 and have also recently bought the Sony. I am happy with the comfort of the Sony. Can have it on my head for the duration of long distance international flights. This is me having a big head as well!

        However, I will agree that I still find my Bose QC25 more comfortable. Not by much though. If I were to rate the Bose 10/10 in terms of comfort, the Sony would be a 9/10.

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        No highs, no lows, must be bose :)

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      I've only spent about 10 minutes listening to the Bose and Sony.
      My summary: Sony sound much better but they are too uncomfortable / hot. So I'm leaning towards the Bose.
      Also - Sony shuts off after 5 minutes if they're not connected (bad for planes), and they're bad for phone calls.

      Anyone who wants to do a comparison, try https://open.spotify.com/album/0CQLuftct8Ujw7uLogVdNq at around 7:08. The Bose distorts at louder volumes, the Sony doesn't. But the Bose is not quite as bad when plugged in.

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    10% from NAB, how do I get that?

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    You should be able to get hn to price match this to make the most of the $50 off $350 Alex deal.

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    Just make sure you are getting the new model - the original model had a lot of reports of hinges cracking. See the US Amazon site for comments/reviews:
    https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Noise-Cancelling-Headphones-WH10...

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      The model with cracking issues had a completely different model number - MDR-1000X

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      The current model M2 model is the latest. No major confirmed issues with these ones

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          I stand corrected on my previous post. I would say that I have had mine for 6mths and no issues so far touch wood. As Australian consumers we would be protected under Aus consumer laws. If this failure happens to me I would be using the full affect of my consumer rights to rectify.

          The posts in the links have been responded by a Sony rep for them to follow up. There doesn't seem to be a follow up response as to whether it was fixed. Assume these were US replies.

          Any response from Sony saying its not a warranty item will would not have grounds to stand on for a product they indicate as $499 on their website. I am going to copy those links as back up.

          The last picture is one of the M1s not M2, but the article was only referencing that issue again for M2. Out of he many units they have sold I suspect in the new version there would be considerably less compared to the M1. Having said that I wouldn't have even thought there was a lot in the first batch. Remember its easier to say bad things about a product then praise it. I think actually there is more praise for the M1 and M2 overall then negatives. The headphones are that good and should not be dismissed.

          The best thing I can suggest is to be careful with them and monitor the joints. If it was $199 I think then the price range is better, but we are a long way off as Bose have kept their pricing inflated, so Sony are just price matching as it is an equivalent product as a product.

          It does seem a tad disappointing then that the fault is not fully fixed. All above IMO

          By the way at the end of the day do your research and make your own decision on whether to get one or not. I don't have any regrets. Best headphones Ive owned. No issues at all.

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    Thanks James and Terry , bought the headphones after such a long wait :-) , hopefully will reduce visiting ozbargain now

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      Yeah me too, I saved like 10 bookmarks for the headphones and take a view everyday. I can now delete them all finally lol

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    Got this and the Sennheiser pxc 550, all for $250 + 2k QF pts just recently. Between the two, Sony is a clear winner for me!

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  • +1 vote

    Just a reminder, if you have a big head I would avoid these headphones at all cost. The clamp pressure, at least on my pair, was pretty significant

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    FYI, these are back in stock at $349 with AMAZON20 code still working.

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