I'm finding bargains for WH-1000XM2 and it seems to be the cheapest in these two weeks.
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Thanks to James, you can save 5% from Cashreward and 10% from NAB to make it better
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Thanks James, combined these with the new user offer. Hopefully all cash backs come through.
Oh I forgot to use cashreward and already place the order
Cancel and do it again
You can apply on the cash rewards site to have it added
I was told you can't stack AMAZON20 with Cash rewards.
What was the JB deal?
Hey friend, Where is the JB deal?
What is the 10% NAB? is this for NAB bank account holders?
JB deal was for $255-265 few months back.
I think it was a price match with Costco?
great price bought one
didn't know anything about these headphones when they had that holy deal at jb :(
Any expert ozbargainers - is this likely to be the cheapest in the next 2 weeks?
In the next 2 weeks - maybe. If there is going to be a better deal, I do not expect it will be way better.
Dont know whether to wait or get them now as a birthday gift for myself. Any suggestions people?
I am also concerning if JB will have the deal again but I can't wait lol
haha so you are getting them now? I might as well but on the other hand its like have waited so long might wait for a bit more.
Is this headphone Sony's equivalent of the Bose QC35?
Yes but better
I got both this model and the Bose QC35.
I found I like the QC35 a lot more:
1. The adaptive function of this model is annoying, and I turn it off.
2. The touch sensitive control makes it slower to change the volume. It also often accidentally switch off if it touches your whole hand/shoulder.
3. It turns on/off by holding the power button, instead of much simpler switch.
4. It's heavier.
For these reasons, I would spend more on Bose any day.
I also got both models and I prefer QC35 too. Main reason is the sound quality. I don't know why many reviews say the 1000xm2 sounds better but to my ears they sound much worse than the QC35.
@ttkc: I find that the sound quality of my 1000XM2 is considerably reduced when noise cancelling is on. This is kind of to be expected, but I was surprised how much this was the case. With noise cancelling off, the sound quality is extremely good.
I do not know how much difference there is on the QC35.
You need to play higher quality audio files to hear the difference. I have all my music in lossless and the difference is night and day. You won't be able to hear a difference playing 320kbps MP3s from iTunes.
- The adaptive function of this model is annoying, and I turn it off.
It isn't on by default, and like you said, you turn can turn it off and never think about it. Hardly a downside.
- The touch sensitive control makes it slower to change the volume. It also often accidentally switch off if it touches your whole hand/shoulder.
What? It takes the same tenth of a second as clicking your phone or a bose button. And I don't even know how you could accidently press your ear against your shoulder and then swipe up. That's just weird.
- It turns on/off by holding the power button, instead of much simpler switch.
Wow.
- It's heavier.
234g vs 275g. I'm calling bullshit on anyone who thinks they can actually measure a 40 gram difference with their head.
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You sound like someone desperate to justify their purchase.
So, the actual comparison for non aspies:
End of the day? It comes down to sound quality vs comfort. And that's a call for you to make.
You sound like someone desperate to justify their purchase.
I own the Sony and not the Bose, so can speak without the bias of being desperate to justify my purchase.
The touch controls have been my biggest gripe with the WH-1000XM2 - double tap for pause sometimes fails to register and requires multiple tries, it's easy to accidentally brush against the touch surface with my hand (especially when picking the headphones up) which tends to send a next/previous track command, and adjusting the volume is more hit-and-miss than with buttons (swipe-and-hold doesn't always register, and a swipe that's slanted a little too much toward the front will trigger next track instead).
I have had the Bose QC25 for 2-3 years now. Recently bought the Sony as I wanted a wireless model. I have only used it once on a long distance flight, but I agree the touch controls can be a touch annoying. It is pretty sensitive to the touch, so it is quite easy to accidentally press a command.
It is not a deal breaker for me though. I use NC headphones mainly during air travel only, and do not play around with the controls much once the music starts playing.
Yes if you are an audiophile and have your music in a lossless format. The Sony does support the highest quality bluetooth streaming of all headphones.
If you just stream music from Spotify on your phone just get whatever headphone you want, the quality is pretty much the same.
What? It takes the same tenth of a second as clicking your phone or a bose button. And I don't even know how you could accidently press your ear against your shoulder and then swipe up. That's just weird.
I didn't say it swipe up. If I try to adjust the earcup, it does what I said.
End of the day? It comes down to sound quality vs comfort. And that's a call for you to make.
Exactly. I justified that it is not as comfortable as Bose. That is how I sound like. Not as desperate as you are it seems.
@boohooimissout: I'm not desperate at all. I don't care about cheap headphones one way or another, I have the Sonys and I gave my wife the QC35s.
But some people do care and it's a big purchase for them, so they deserve a better comparison than 'bose are better because dumb car analogy'.
@Yesall: maybe something i said. Fair enough. I agree with kost comments in this page. While I like Sony, I prefer Bose. They just a little bit better imho.
I use kia and BMW as an example because they have the same function and usually teh former comes with more features than the later. However the later are more expensive and regarded as better quality. It just works without needing to fiddle the settings.
@Erkel: That's because LDAC uses lossy compression and re-encoding files that have already been losslessly compressed such as mp3 leads to large losses in quality.
With my regular routine, I mostly only listen to music on my earphones when I am at the gym. For that, I use a pair of Apple Earpods. I have a pair of Xiaomi Pistons as well for the rare occasions my Earpods run out of battery. The sound quality of the Earpods are nothing to shout home about, but they are so convenient for taking calls on the go.
Of course when you're streaming music wirelessly there will be compression. LDAC is the least compressed of all BT streaming formats, Bose headphones does not support LDAC.
If you're gonna use LDAC you will not use mp3 files.
Easily, especially if it's orchestral music. You can easily hear more depth with a FLAC than a 320 mp3.
Obviously you'll need gear that supports higher quality streaming too. So listening a FLAC on a Bose is useless since Bose compresses alot more than the Sony headphone.
@boohooimissout: I was talking about the Bose/BMW.
Nah, just lots of features that aren't useful.
Those features are free. If they were removed, it would not have reduced the cost. They decided the price they wanted and built towards that price.
Lack of simplicity.
I don't know what you find complicated about it. It only has a few buttons. The gestures are simple to understand. It's better than having an inline remote, which you have to feel since you can't see the buttons. With the touch sensitive cup, you know exactly where it is, and what direction you need to swipe.
@lostn: I don't find the gestures simple to understand. I find it annoying and slow and prone to accidental swipe. I prefer buttons. To increase volume 3 times is so much faster. I find Bose buttons easy to locate.
Like I also said above, the power button require long press, instead of a switch, if i dont press long enough, it won't turn on or off…
These are minor gripes, some people may prefer sony still.
Anyway, what's the point of you asking these questions?
I don't find the gestures simple to understand. I find it annoying and slow and prone to accidental swipe. I prefer buttons. To increase volume 3 times is so much faster. I find Bose buttons easy to locate.
For some people some things are harder I guess.
Like I also said above, the power button require long press, instead of a switch, if i dont press long enough, it won't turn on or off…
Fewer buttons makes every button easier to locate. You are going to be feeling for them after all, not looking for them.
Anyway, what's the point of you asking these questions?
You will find I didn't ask a single question in the block you replied to. But what's the point in your asking what's the point in the questions? It's a discussion page. Questions and answers are par for the course, otherwise there's no point in having a discussion section.
touch sensitive control
No thank you
I have the BOSE QC ii as well and I love it… It sounds great and the comfort is the best in the industry. However good the sound is, if its uncomfortable you wont like it after half an hour. So yes! BOSE will be my choice.
EDIT: The battery life is awesome and the phone conversation and the noise cancelation is brilliant.
I have this headset and in my opinion it clamps down on the head with considerable force, I have to remove it after about 1 hour as it becomes uncomfortable. I have the older Bose QC15 and it is a lot more comfortable compared to the Sony, can have it on for a long haul flight without having to remove it at all. Secondly, the headband on my Sony has started creaking when putting it on / taking it off - this didn't happen for the first 2 months or so. Also, I find the sound quality a bit ordinary - personally my QC15 sounds as good and if not better than the Sony.
It does have more force than QC35, but not a lot more.
These are wear all day headphones for me and I have a big head..
I do not have the QC35, but I have the QC25 and have also recently bought the Sony. I am happy with the comfort of the Sony. Can have it on my head for the duration of long distance international flights. This is me having a big head as well!
However, I will agree that I still find my Bose QC25 more comfortable. Not by much though. If I were to rate the Bose 10/10 in terms of comfort, the Sony would be a 9/10.
No highs, no lows, must be bose :)
I've only spent about 10 minutes listening to the Bose and Sony.
My summary: Sony sound much better but they are too uncomfortable / hot. So I'm leaning towards the Bose.
Also - Sony shuts off after 5 minutes if they're not connected (bad for planes), and they're bad for phone calls.
Anyone who wants to do a comparison, try https://open.spotify.com/album/0CQLuftct8Ujw7uLogVdNq at around 7:08. The Bose distorts at louder volumes, the Sony doesn't. But the Bose is not quite as bad when plugged in.
Find an old unused headphones, cut the 3.5mm jack and plug it into the Sony so they stay on.
10% from NAB, how do I get that?
You should be able to get hn to price match this to make the most of the $50 off $350 Alex deal.
Spoke to HN and they do match the price but will charge shipping if you want delivery. Local pick up is free but running out of stock in Canberra.
What's the price after price match in HN?
HN price match the price so it will be $359 + shipping
If you get free shipping with shipster it would then be $309.
Use a free shipster trial for free delivery @ HN :)
my trial has expired…too much effort to make an account for both HN and shipster…
Takes 2 mins, better than paying $7.95.. I just auto-filled with a new email on both when ordering a switch and then cancelled the Paypal agreement.
you sold me to it..doing it now
Just make sure you are getting the new model - the original model had a lot of reports of hinges cracking. See the US Amazon site for comments/reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Noise-Cancelling-Headphones-WH10…
The model with cracking issues had a completely different model number - MDR-1000X
The current model M2 model is the latest. No major confirmed issues with these ones
I stand corrected on my previous post. I would say that I have had mine for 6mths and no issues so far touch wood. As Australian consumers we would be protected under Aus consumer laws. If this failure happens to me I would be using the full affect of my consumer rights to rectify.
The posts in the links have been responded by a Sony rep for them to follow up. There doesn't seem to be a follow up response as to whether it was fixed. Assume these were US replies.
Any response from Sony saying its not a warranty item will would not have grounds to stand on for a product they indicate as $499 on their website. I am going to copy those links as back up.
The last picture is one of the M1s not M2, but the article was only referencing that issue again for M2. Out of he many units they have sold I suspect in the new version there would be considerably less compared to the M1. Having said that I wouldn't have even thought there was a lot in the first batch. Remember its easier to say bad things about a product then praise it. I think actually there is more praise for the M1 and M2 overall then negatives. The headphones are that good and should not be dismissed.
The best thing I can suggest is to be careful with them and monitor the joints. If it was $199 I think then the price range is better, but we are a long way off as Bose have kept their pricing inflated, so Sony are just price matching as it is an equivalent product as a product.
It does seem a tad disappointing then that the fault is not fully fixed. All above IMO
By the way at the end of the day do your research and make your own decision on whether to get one or not. I don't have any regrets. Best headphones Ive owned. No issues at all.
Thanks James and Terry , bought the headphones after such a long wait :-) , hopefully will reduce visiting ozbargain now
Yeah me too, I saved like 10 bookmarks for the headphones and take a view everyday. I can now delete them all finally lol
Careful, I noticed alot of issues compared with its previous generation mdr 1000x
Sometimes this headphones turned off automatically randomly after few months of use, suddenly disconnected and unable to pair.
Eventually it will unable to be turned on and cant be charged. Can only be used with wire only
Sony soyboy
Got this and the Sennheiser pxc 550, all for $250 + 2k QF pts just recently. Between the two, Sony is a clear winner for me!
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Just a reminder, if you have a big head I would avoid these headphones at all cost. The clamp pressure, at least on my pair, was pretty significant
They should loosen over time. How long have you had them for?
FYI, these are back in stock at $349 with AMAZON20 code still working.
5% cashreward & 10% NAB will make it better, no as good as JB deal though.