DANAUPHOTOGRAPHY.com - 50% off Lifestyle Photography Package - 2hrs for $300 (SYD)

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In launching my website www.DANAUPHOTOGRAPHY.com I am happy to offer 50% off all Photography packages.

To claim this deal, visit the website and leave a POSITIVE comment OR Facebook Recommend Comment.

Then, for $300, you get:

2 HOUR photo shoot at any location in Sydney (inc Greater Sydney) (Or I can help you with that)
2 DVD copies of high-res, low-res, and Black & White selections of the best photos.
2 10in x 8in enlargements prints
All photos are editted and touched to professional quality.

Great for singles, couples, pets, families, children, babies.
I also do business shoots, interiors, cafes, from which you can
better promote your business.

Enquire for more details regarding Wedding photography packages at [email protected]

It's my first official post, be kind!

ABN: 41406693433

Mod: Cleaned up title, added location

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jv on 14/02/2011 - 23:43

+3

so please refrain from negative comments

Are you now a mod ???

What happend to your post from last week ? I can't find it to compare what's changed in your offer…

2 DVD copies of high-res, low-res, and Black & White selections of the best photos

what does this mean ??? which ones are high res, which ones are low res, and who gets to choose which photos ???

2 10in x 8in enlargements prints

these are usually around $3 each at most photo labs…

I am happy to offer 50% off all Photography packages.

how do i know if this is a bargain ? How much is 50% off saving me ? There are no prices on your website…
- spinoza on 15/02/2011 - 00:52
  
  -4
  
  mate, you have a point with pricing - but not really understanding why you seem to take such personal offence from this post…?
  - sonicentropy on 15/02/2011 - 04:21
    
    -3
    
    I agree his comment was extremely negative
    - lazed on 15/02/2011 - 05:54
      
      +4
      
      You guys are kidding right? All his points and comments are completely valid.
    - Michaelz101 on 15/02/2011 - 07:01
      
      +4
      
      If you want to pay 300 out of your pocket, no one is stopping you.
      
      Jv is just asking the necessary questions that anyone shoul be asking before they fork out 300 out of their pockets
  - FromOz on 15/02/2011 - 19:18
    
    +1
    
    All valid questions I believe. Also perhaps this bit: "To claim this deal, visit the website and leave a POSITIVE comment OR Facebook Recommend Comment". Exactly what is the point of these things if they are basically BS due to manipulation by organisations/businesses?
- mickeyjuiceman on 16/02/2011 - 11:35
  
  -1
  
  Is it the intent of the moderators on this forum to encourage clueless nitpicking on posts?
  
  Just wondering, as this thread is a classic example of complete ignorance being used as a cause for complaint.
[Deactivated] on 14/02/2011 - 23:48

+1

That is the biggest home page I have ever witnessed. Takes for ever to load. I gave up.
King Tightarse on 15/02/2011 - 00:58

I have no idea about pricing, there are sooo many photographic studios out there offering specials but I think some of the life shots are really pretty good.
Not sure I'd put that mum and baby on my home page though ;p
- sonicentropy on 15/02/2011 - 04:32
  
  +1
  
  So many on the Market, some suck you in with cheap/free sittings but sting you with the cost of the prints, and then only give you low res images or watermarked image on CD. A lot out there have no formal training, they bought a 550d/7d and copy of lightroom, put some images up on facebook and all of a sudden they are a photographer. My advice shop around, look for someone with a fixed studio. That gives you full res images.
  - lazed on 15/02/2011 - 06:35
    
    That is an extremely negative comment to make.
  - mickeyjuiceman on 15/02/2011 - 08:06
    
    +1
    
    Apart from the "fixed studio" (which I guess means a permanent location) this is spot on.
luztra on 15/02/2011 - 01:19

+4

Like others have said, what happened to your "first official post" last week? I commented on that post also but your offer was removed shortly after.

I really don't think this is a "bargain" as such, more a case of someone trying to get some free advertising for their website.
sonicentropy on 15/02/2011 - 04:15

I think 300 is a good price, and their work is above par. But with the cost of prints these days 2 prints is a poor effort. But if you are providing full res unwatermarked images (14 - 28Megapixel) on DVD this does make up for it.
- jv on 15/02/2011 - 10:24
  
  But if you are providing full res unwatermarked images (14 - 28Megapixel) on DVD this does make up for it.
  
  I'd be very surprised if they did… I'd even give this post a +ve then, but looks like the OP did a Hit and Run…
Michaelz101 on 15/02/2011 - 06:42

+1

Don't think his all that professional, I saw his photos from the previous post….could do a better job for 300 mate
- Michaelz101 on 15/02/2011 - 06:54
  
  +2
  
  Also, dan…this isn't your first post. You had one the other week. Again, posting this ad here…. You are targeting wrong audience. Which person on ozbargain will pay 300 for photos????
  
  Another thing…we can't see your pricing see how is this a bargain? Anyone can say that it is 50% off when this must be the price in the first place.
  
  If You want your site to be professional, I really suggest posting this ad in a photography based magazine or wedding magazine not here.
[Deactivated] on 15/02/2011 - 07:02

+2
I don't like the idea of something being described as "50% off" when this business has just launched and the "full price" hasn't been previously offered. As the ACCC says: "The actual previous price must have been offered for a reasonable period prior to the discount offer commencing so that it is a genuine offer and not just a price that has been inflated to make a sale price seem more attractive."

The rates aren't the most expensive (by a long shot), but they also aren't the cheapest. There's no way to objectively determine if this deal is a bargain or not, since the product is so subjective, but I think the cynical reaction in this thread (and in the now-deleted thread last week) shows that the work isn't self-evidently of a high enough standard to qualify this as a clear-cut bargain.

Is this a proper business or a hobbyist? There's no mention of an ABN (if they had one, they'd almost certainly be using a com.au address instead). Does the business have public liability insurance? (Some venues don't allow photographers to work on their premises without it.) If this isn't a fully-fledged business, then I don't think it belongs on OzBargain.
rack on 15/02/2011 - 07:20

+1

And what i don't like is the reps posting a deal and disappearing instead of answering questions or atleast commenting.
- andy19363 on 15/02/2011 - 08:19
  
  presumably they need to sleep….
  - rack on 15/02/2011 - 08:52
    
    -1
    
    then maybe they shouldn't be posting it out of business hours.
    - mickeyjuiceman on 15/02/2011 - 08:53
      
      +1
      
      Wow, where's the "ridiculous complaint" box to tick? Deadset. And if they posted DURING business hours, and then stupidly attended to business, i guess you'd whine about that too.
    - rack on 15/02/2011 - 10:07
      
      Its 10.04am now and this deal was posted 10 hours 27 mins ago making the time it was posted somewhere between 11pm - 12am. YOU call that business hours.
      
      I have seem lot of stupid deals being posted close to midnight cos the mods don't seem to monitor this site at that time and neither do lot of people bother to vote negative. That just gives them more time to advertise for free on ozbargain.
    - neil on 15/02/2011 - 10:34
      
      @rack, Actually, midnight is probably the median time where every moderator is on the site. If there are issues with deals, hit the REPORT button (it's underneath every commment and at the top of the page).
King Tightarse on 15/02/2011 - 09:10

Looks to me like a young guy setting himself up for the first time (guessing) people are being kinda harsh.
Sure it's an area where there are some shonks with the "free" sitting and then tiny proofs with super expensive prints, but this guy looks like he is setting up a traditional straight-up photography business. Lots of business shots etc.
Bet it's really hard to get a name for yourself as a ligit photographer after college…
- rack on 15/02/2011 - 10:08
  
  not trying to be harsh to anyone. I do understand he is starting off but with a lie. Does he normally charge $600 for him to be able to offer 50% off or is this just a fake deal.
quop on 15/02/2011 - 11:12

Hey I know this guy! Was pretty surprised to see his post here (didn't see the previous offer that others have referred to). That being said, I do think that most of the criticism/questions levelled at this post/offer have valid points. But please give the guy a chance to respond (which I hope he will). I know that he does have a "day job" and that photography is not his full time gig/only commitment, so most likely he won't be replying until after "business hours"… and maybe after thinking through some of the issues that have been raised by the OzB community.

I honestly don't believe he's out to deceive anyone (he's a genuine and funny guy in real life), so I reckon criticisms and comments that are constructive would be helpful for him going forward.
- jv on 15/02/2011 - 11:23
  
  so most likely he won’t be replying until after “business hours”…
  
  might not have been the best idea to post on here then…
  
  so I reckon criticisms and comments that are constructive would be helpful for him going forward.
  
  most points here are valid and constructive…
  he needs to be more transparent in his advertising…
  - quop on 15/02/2011 - 12:25
    
    might not have been the best idea to post on here then…
    
    that's what rack said a few hours ago… though others hold a contrary view.
    [edit: just re-read rack's previous comment, not quite the same thing, though related sentiment]
    
    but just so i understand, are you suggesting that one should only post here if one can dedicate resources to respond during business hours? if that's a reasonable expectation maybe you should suggest it to the mods for inclusion in the wiki or something, under posting guidelines or similar.
    
    all i'm trying to say is that he hasn't necessarily done a hit and run as you've previously alluded.
    
    most points here are valid and constructive…
    
    isn't that what i said? (i'm just confused as you seem to be disagreeing with me…)
  - mickeyjuiceman on 15/02/2011 - 13:33
    
    -1
    
    Just because you've got a bee in your bonnet about it doesn't make it lacking in transparency.
tensai on 15/02/2011 - 11:33

+3

He is receiving all these negative comments because he is using the ozbargain page as an free advertisement.

If it is a genuine bargain (simply like all other ozbargainers are stating, if he is well known to be offering his service for $600 and it is now 50% off), then ozbarginers wont give neg comments or anything.

there was a post last week from Dan Au which I also give him negative, as simply is a Ad, not a offer

we can't judge whether $300 is a bargain or not as any photographer can charge any professional service fee, but simply he didnt even list his full price list and it is not well known that he usually charge $600 makes this deal not a bargain.

Simple things like PS3 usually charge $400 and if there is a deal for $300, ozbargainers know it is a bargain, not an AD
- infinite on 15/02/2011 - 17:02
  
  Agree completely
andy19363 on 15/02/2011 - 12:47

+2

hmmmm….
2 hour shoot….
same again, (minimum, I would imagine), for editing, burning dvd, etc

4 hrs $300

$75 an hour including photos, (although no mention of how many of the 'best' photos are included)

seems pretty good to me….

Whilst it is a difficult area, I'm not seeing any of the negative posters put up alternate services, either cheaper or on a par with the $300…. so it's difficult to gauge whether this is indeed good value or, as has been said, simply an ad.
- SomeGuyOnOzB on 15/02/2011 - 16:55
  
  To my knowledge, the last deal was revoked for sockpuppeting. The poster has revised the deal (I think it's now $100 cheaper) and learned not to sockpuppet.
  
  From the photos, if the OP is agreeable to offering this price for say, weddings … wedding photography prices vary a lot and you don't generally get digital versions of the photos. It'd be good to see how many photos and what quality, would be included on the DVD.
  
  That could be a great price, if you get a number of photos you like, on the DVD (and are free to then print them/distribute them however you like … some photographers seem to make a lot of money when selling you books of photos, photo albums, canvases etc)
  
  Failing that, most people probably need a strong reason for having a heap of photos of themselves (and/or friends and family) taken somewhere.
  
  The photographer is talking $300, so that's not the price range most people hope for just one or two portrait shots.
  
  Off the top of my head, I'm mainly coming up with commercial reasons for wanting a 2 hour photo shoot at $300.
  
  Like in the photos, if you run a cafe or are starting up a business, you might want a heap of stylised, artistic photos to use on your website and/or print to use in promotions (eg postcards, put on your walls etc).
  
  Dentists and lawyers may find it nice to have such photos to make their website, office and promotions a little more distinctive and/or impressive (depending on how the session turns out).
  
  If someone is a model, they might want 2 hours worth of photography so they can get heaps of shots for their portfolio (if the number of shots provided on DVD is sufficient and if the quality is sufficient too).
  
  If you have a product to sell, 2 hours at $300 could be a good deal.
  
  But personally I'm not in the market for such things, so I don't know if it's a good deal.
  
  …
  
  Mainly I think it's not a product aimed towards most of the commentors so far … but there may be a few here with businesses or weddings who may find it to be a bargain …
  - mickeyjuiceman on 15/02/2011 - 17:13
    
    A wedding isn't a two hour shoot, unless it's pretty strange one.
    
    I did a three-hour family portrait session a few weeks ago, and with eight adults and four kids, I delivered a bit over 100 images, which is way more than enough, even with a few almost-duplicates
    for them to choose between.
    - SomeGuyOnOzB on 15/02/2011 - 22:43
      
      Hmm … maybe more for the non event photos. If someone was relying on family and friends for photos of the wedding and the reception, then the photographer meets them up for the artistic posed photo shoot.
  - jv on 15/02/2011 - 17:17
    
    the last deal was revoked for sockpuppeting.
    
    that's BAD
    
    Not only is he not disclosing his normal prices, but he is trying to deceive Ozbargain readers by pretending he is someone else…
    - andy19363 on 15/02/2011 - 18:32
      
      I guess it depends on the 'offence'…….there's a broad spectrum of sockpuppeting, from elaborate deception involving a number of people, proxies, etc…. down to a straight case of ignorance, not ticking rep box…that kind of thing….
      
      I don't know what end of the spectrum this was btw…..
    - quop on 16/02/2011 - 11:56
      
      @jv you might want to check your sources, or be sure about what you're saying, before engaging in defamatory remarks. unless, of course, you have valid reason to disbelieve OPs explanation of what went down with the previous deal.
      
      @foundit can you (as a mod) shed any further light on your comments and OPs subsequent response to this issue?
    - jv on 16/02/2011 - 12:00
      
      @jv you might want to check your sources, or be sure about what you’re saying, before engaging in defamatory remarks.
      
      my source is the Rep's comment…
      
      "A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception within an online community."
      
      http://tinyurl.com/yv9ays
    - neil on 16/02/2011 - 12:13
      
      @quop,
      
      What the OP stated below is correct and has been resolved.
    - quop on 16/02/2011 - 12:44
      
      @jv
      
      my source is the Rep’s comment…
      
      I assume by "Rep's comment" you are referring to what OP said:
      
      the first post was pulled down for sockpuppetting because one of my friends voted for me without my knowing. Ozb then sin-binned him, which he then confessed to knowing me. I had nothing to do with it. I did not engage in artificial voting nor sought to do so.
      
      If you are equating that to mean:
      
      he is trying to deceive Ozbargain readers by pretending he is someone else…
      
      Then that's a logical jump and a half… besides which your accusation of deliberate deceit on OPs part was made almost 4 hours before his comment explaining why his first post was regarded as sockpuppeting (the OzB definition of which being broader than your reference).
      
      @foundit thanks for the followup and confirmation.
      [whoops just realised it was a different mod who replied, thanks neil!]
    - jv on 16/02/2011 - 12:52
      
      Then that’s a logical jump and a half…
      
      Causality…
      
      4 hours before
      
      Exactly…
Associateddanauphotography @ danauphotography.com on 15/02/2011 - 21:04

+2

Hi everyone,

Thanks for your comments. I appreciate the feedback and feel an explanation is owed.

First, the first post was pulled down for sockpuppetting because one of my friends voted for me without my knowing. Ozb then sin-binned him, which he then confessed to knowing me. I had nothing to do with it. I did not engage in artificial voting nor sought to do so. I repealed my banned status and was then allowed to put up this post here in good conscience.

Second, the post is really for those who have some interest in my photography services and would like to enquire, and take advantage of the offer. Most photographers don't advertise pricing packages online due to it being tailored to each individual client, so it's a little harder there to gauge whether it's a true bargain. It's a subjective judgement. And for someone starting out, I feel this is the right package to start it at. I'm proud of my work and wish to let it speak for itself.

Thirdly - I'm a noob on ozbargain. Perhaps this wasn't the best forum to post it up on. I would always appreciate any constructive feedback you have for me.

Thanks again.
Dan
- lazed on 16/02/2011 - 06:30
  
  +1
  
  You're proud and confident of your work but you want people to leave fake recommendations to access a deal?
  - andy19363 on 16/02/2011 - 09:23
    
    +1
    
    naive and clumsy marketing, I suspect….
    
    as indeed this post has been….
    
    however, this will hopefully have been a learning process.
- jv on 16/02/2011 - 10:39
  
  +1
  
  Most photographers don’t advertise pricing packages online due to it being tailored to each individual client, so it’s a little harder there to gauge whether it’s a true bargain.
  
  So how do we know that it is really 50% off ?
  
  How can we be expected to vote +ve or -ve without knowing the cost, so we can compare to other deals?
  
  This is blatantly free advertising…
  - mickeyjuiceman on 16/02/2011 - 10:53
    
    -2
    
    Are you required to vote on everything? If you don't have a clue about it, what's the issue?
    
    It's clearly a discount price, for anyone who knows anything about pricing for photography. If you don't, why hang around for the sole purpose of trying to cause fights?
    - jv on 16/02/2011 - 10:58
      
      It’s clearly a discount price…
      
      Well I can't clearly see any prices… For all i know, his 'normal' prices might be twice what the competition charge…
      
      "POST a clear title including price and location."
      http://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/help:rules_guidelines
    - mickeyjuiceman on 16/02/2011 - 11:00
      
      +1
      
      OK, just read it again. Especially the bit about "anyone who knows anything about pricing for photography", which you seem to be missing in your desperate attempts to nit-pick this to death because you're bored, or whatever.
    - andy19363 on 16/02/2011 - 11:02
      
      Well I can’t clearly see any prices
      
      2hrs for $300 (SYD)….in the title of the post
    - jv on 16/02/2011 - 11:05
      
      2hrs for $300 (SYD)….in the title of the post
      
      I'm referring to the 1st line of the post…
      
      "I am happy to offer 50% off all Photography packages."
      
      and the Rep still hasn't answered any of the questions asked…
    - andy19363 on 16/02/2011 - 11:28
      
      I’m referring to the 1st line of the post…
      
      “I am happy to offer 50% off all Photography packages.”
      
      I assume that means the normal price for the service is $600
    - jv on 16/02/2011 - 11:33
      
      I assume that means the normal price for the service is $600
      
      $600 is a lot of money for 2 x 10in x 8in prints unless the DVD contains all the full resolution unwatermarked prints…
    - andy19363 on 16/02/2011 - 11:51
      
      I wouldn't know……. never needed to use such a service…
      
      but, based on my previous $ per hour reckoning $150 per hour would seem reasonable…
      
      depends on the work done I guess, but you won't know that until afterwards, (same if you used a $500 an hour service I suppose)
jv on 16/02/2011 - 11:11

I'm overwhelmed my your obsession in my posts Micky… Keep it up… :P
- mickeyjuiceman on 16/02/2011 - 11:13
  
  Any danger of you actually responding to any of the questions in them? Or are you just going to keep nit-picking at the original post, further demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge in the area with each response?
  
  Here's a couple you seem to have missed in your haste to look ignorant about this subject:
  
  Are you required to vote on everything? If you don’t have a clue about it, what’s the issue?
  
  It’s clearly a discount price, for anyone who knows anything about pricing for photography. If you don’t, why hang around for the sole purpose of trying to cause fights?
  - jv on 16/02/2011 - 11:15
    
    Any danger of you actually responding to any of the questions in them?
    
    I'm waiting for my questions to be answered first… (see 1st post…)
    - SomeGuyOnOzB on 16/02/2011 - 16:31
      
      Just visiting this thread and gave a quick skim to what's been written since I last visited it.
      
      JV, the actual intention of the site is supposed to be:
      - deals are titled so you can see if something is of interest to you. If it's not of interest or you wouldn't use it, you can save your time and wander on to a deal that will benefit or be relevant to you. If the title's not that good, hopefully the body of the description will help you out.
      
      Now, you've said, this isn't a product you are interested in.
      
      Giving the comments that've been going on a quick skim, you might find it a more enjoyable use of your time &/or beneficial to you, to leave this thread and discussion behind and head onto something of more interest/benefit/relevance to you.
      
      That was just an idea for your consideration.
    - jv on 16/02/2011 - 16:49
      
      -1
      
      Now, you’ve said, this isn’t a product you are interested in.
      
      Where have i said that ???
      
      My family has been taking professional portraits at least once a year…
      
      The details given by the OP above are next to useless for making comparisons…
      
      "2 DVD copies of high-res, low-res, and Black & White selections of the best photos."
      
      WT does that mean ???
      
      are they ALL high res and low res ??? are they watermarked ??? who selects the best photos ???
neil on 16/02/2011 - 17:15

+2

OK, I think that's enough discussion. Thread closed.

This was posted 13 years 2 months 5 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

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