September 12 Apple Event (iPhone XS, XS Max, Watch 4 Related Discussions)

Hi Everyone!

Is anyone else waking up at 3am tomorrow morning to live stream the Apple special event?

What are you all most excited about?

For me, I have been waiting for the airpower to come out. Fingers crossed you can buy it tomorrow.

:)


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  • iPhone XS
  • iPhone XS Max
  • Apple Watch 4

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  • 22
    My alarm is set for 3am
  • 87
    I'll be asleep and catch up on my commute to work
  • 379
    I don't care

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  • +15 votes

    IOS 12 release - Google maps in Carplay

  • +22 votes

    There is an apple event tomorrow?

    Is it going to be a bigger notch?

  • +2 votes

    This is probably the first time where I'm not that excited anymore with the event. Probably because I haven't heard anything exciting yet on the new iPhone (I always upgrade to a new iPhone every year). Unless perhaps, if Apple surprises us like they always did before the leaks era and all

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      You don't want to upgrade to the bigger size iPhone X they are likely going to announce?

      • +3 votes

        Not too sure, I used an iPhone 7 Plus, then iPhone X. Kind of like the size of the iPhone X, but I'd assume the bigger iPhone (iPhone X Max?) will have better camera lens so that might be an attractive upgrade. It depends on the price though, I recon it'd be super high…

        • +2 votes

          My guess is that the price for the larger form factor will start at $1829 for a 64gb - same price as the 256gb in the smaller size. Time will tell! I also like the size of the iPhone X but I do feel like I could do a little bigger…

        • +1 vote

          @pantsparty: That's what she said. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

      • +4 votes

        It'll probably be close to $2k the way apple are going

    • +2 votes

      The last time they put anything new and exciting on an iPhone was retina display on the iPhone 4.

      • +1 vote

        Right.. and finger print sensor was so not new and un-exciting that all other android phones boringly follow suit…

        The true wireless air pods was also so un-novel that all other audio ear phone makers are also boringly trying to catchup with their own true wireless plugs.

  • +7 votes

    What are you all most excited about?

    I'm more excited about what's going to happen next on The Bachelor than the Apple announcement.

  • +11 votes

    3am? I just painted my house, I will probably watch it dry.

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    I will probably just stick with my X at this point, but I'm curious to see if there are any surprises for the Watch 4. Also hoping they say something about the possible new MacBook Air, although that's far more likely to be a separate event in October.

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      I was wearing the 1st Gen, but now been wearing Fitbit Versa. Find it lighter/slimmer, 4-5 days battery life, and has Fitbit Pay that works. I rarely used apps on the Watch anyway

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    I usually open one of the live blogs on Engadget or whatever after the event and scan through in 40x speed to see the interesting stuff. The rest is 2 hours of guff :)

    • +1 vote

      if youre reading the live blogs youre still getting that whole 2 hours of guff, just sped up. if youre avoiding one of the many post event summaries and going for the completed live feed it sounds like you specifically want the guff

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        I like to stop at some of he pretty pictures on stage and read the details of the devices. But I am pretty good at speed reading past the guff about sales, stats, apple stores blah blah.

  • +3 votes

    Quite excited for the new Apple Watch as still wearing the S0 and barely holds full day of charge now so definitely on the list.

    The large 6.5 iPhone XS is very tempting too. Needs to have a few flash features to upgrade from current iPhone X but likely will anyway.

    Macs not interested in at all. AirPods upgrade would be welcome but if it's just wireless case and AirPower then not worth it.

    I'll be awake at 3, should be good!

    https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/07/what-to-expect-septembe...

  • +4 votes

    phones are all too big. i was going to drop in and get my SE battery replaced, now the stores going to be annoyingly busy with a bunch of new phones that still just look like the iphone 6

    • +5 votes

      I used to think big phones were silly, but in the past few years I've discovered that holding a screen close to my face to see smaller text makes my eyes ache.

      Now I want a bigger phone with a bigger screen!

  • +1 vote

    Wouldn't mind a new iPhone…though they're pricey.

    Run a 2012 Mac Mini in my home office too, so wouldn't mind seeing what other options they're coming out with, if any.

    Won't be staying up for the announcement though. Here's how it will play out for me:

    • Completely forget about the event
    • Wake up tomorrow, and go to work as usual
    • One of the other Apple users at work will mention something about the event, and I'll say, "Oh, I forgot about that, I'll check it out tonight"
    • days go by
    • Eventually, I remember to check out the podcast, watch it, and decide that I can't afford to upgrade this time around

    Don't get me wrong…I work in tech (doesn't everybody?) and I can't bring myself to run Windows at home anymore (dealing with it during the day is enough), so I love Apple. The excitement around these events seems to have worn off for me though. A cheap but powerful Mac Mini will get me excited though.

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      It's all horses for courses really. I couldn't care less about Macs and will probably never get one as doesn't meet my usage requirements but do get quite excited about the iOS ecosystem as that works well for me. Having said that, you're right, this year there's no chance of anything revolutionary after the X last year so hype levels feel lower. Or, we're getting older.

  • +12 votes

    $2200AUD price, no notch, google news flooded with hit and miss comments about the product, and plenty of idiots willing to subscribe to the cult of apple

  • +1 vote

    Yeah nah

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    It's September 13th for Australia.

  • +22 votes

    I thought we were going to ban religious threads around here?

  • +1 vote

    Is Miyamoto going to show Mario Kart World Tour at it? Not worth it otherwise.

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    Why didn't they just release the phone today?

    There are lots of events happening at Apple campuses tomorrow unrelated to the iphone Xs.

  • +6 votes

    $2369.

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      I can live with 256gb so $2049 for me but wow! That’s a very steep price to pay to have the latest and greatest.

      • -2 votes

        Is it though? People in the office quite happily pay $4-5 for a cup of coffee from the plethora of the coffee shops around and $12 for a salad box pretty much every single day. Sometimes several coffees a day when there's free coffee provided in office. The iPhone turns out to effectively be $3 a day over 2 years. Considering how much use it will get all day long both for personal and work, that doesn't seem too heavy. Not to mention incredible resale value at the end where you'll get at least 60-70% of the value back when resold.

        • +4 votes

          Wish I was a coffee drinker…then I could quit drinking coffee, and save up to buy me a brand spanking new iPhone!

        • +1 vote

          you got more our of salad box and coffee than this!!

    • +1 vote

      Nuts. Sorry that money can go to my holiday trip overseas or mortgage instead

      • +1 vote

        Or to 9 xioami's

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          To confuse the CCP with 9 copies of your personal data! (That'll fox 'em!)

          Perhaps you risk having to throw them all away in one lump chuck when they are no longer supported. Unless you want insurance against all 9 failing one after the other?

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    The apple watch was more interesting, but at $749 for the cellular model … that's just ridiculous

    the iphone xs has no real upgrade… (worth an additional ~$800 anyway (compared to a brand new iphone x currently))

    • +1 vote

      Agreed.

      I will probably wait to upgrade my Watch when a good deal comes around, but will keep by iPhone X and upgrade next year.

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    Merged from New iPhones Annouced - Thoughts? Lack Lusture?

    I have a love-hate relationship with Apple. Before you tell me to move to Android… consider the following… I’m totally immersed in the Apple world, so it’s a bit hard for me to pull out…

    iTunes is where all my music is…
    Apple TV
    Both my wife and I have iPhones (she also has an iWatch)
    We both have iPads (work provides)
    We both have MacBooks (work provides)
    All my app/software investments are Apple

    Anyway… my wife needs a new phone, she’s needed one for a few months but I convinced her to hold off and wait for the new release which was announced a few hrs ago…

    I can’t really see a big difference tbh… should I just ‘cheap out’ (lol) and get her the XR? or perhaps just the standard X if I can snag a bargain!

    What happened to Moore’s law? Seems like it’s just the same phone…

    • +1 vote

      I did see that ludicrous display last night.
      The "cheap" version is still over $1k. The pricing tiers for storage are ridiculous.

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      you should see how much cheap sd cards are going for these days….

    • +1 vote

      I don't get why the media and the tool companies that make apps just don't seem to get that the vast majority of smartphone owners don't have iphones. I mean I am one of the people that do the AC Neilsen ratings for internet, and they bought out a smartphone version. But of course they only do apple. So that should give you an idea how idiotic any figures you get from smartphone use is as they have taken a smaller segment of the ownership. Their data is garbage.

    • +1 vote

      I understand that love hate relationship well. I hate the price and some of the restrictiveness but there's a lot I do like and I'm in too deep to get out now. I've only just decked out my house with 3 airport expresses for multi room audio!

      I've been waiting for the new release to decide what I'll replace my 6S with, but I still don't know.

      XS/XS max - too expensive
      XR - no 3D touch.
      X - probably can't get cheap on telstra plan as it's discontinued.
      8 - no dual lens camera
      8plus - too big

      hmmmm

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      Moore's law applies to semiconductors. Apple products have always been more about product design and aesthetics than the underlying tech.

      As to XR vs X - I'd go for the XR because Apple's MO seems to be to code new OS updates to only the specs of the latest gen in mind. Older gen devices can obviously still use it, but they'll suffer things like the infamous throttling issues, or battery issues, etc.

      • +1 vote

        If priced the same (some X deals recently are pretty close to XR RRP) I'd go for the X because of the better screen, camera and 3D touch compared to XR. I'd notice these a lot more that throttling or battery issues.

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      I’m totally immersed in the Apple world, so it’s a bit hard for me to pull out…

      Why, have you tried?

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    Merged from New Apple Releases - Will You Upgrade?

    Just saw the ad for the new releases. I have been planning to move to Android on my next upgrade because of how expensive iPhones are getting. But man.. after seeing the ad I am still tempted

    I would say Android phones are like a really good Japanese cars that can do anything a BMW/Mercedes does (and more). While iPhones are like.. well BMW/Mercedes. Its in its own playing field.. classy and trusted brand that people will still want to purchase.. esp people who have more than enough spare money.

    Would love to hear what you think. Esp if you’re an iPhone user, would you still upgrade to an iPhone in future? Or move to Android?

    NOTE: please keep the discussion civil. I know how passionate Android/Apple users can get :)

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      Getting an new I watch 4 though

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        Yeah the new features of the watch make it very appealing, eventually when all the Medi features (if ever) become available here.. iPhone was a bit meh

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        Makes my 6 month old Series 3 look a bit lame, but oh well

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        I will too. But i’ll sit out for a year until it appears on secondhand market. I still don’t mind my Watch series 1 (which I also bought secondhand)

    • +3 votes

      I was an ardent iPhone user until about 2 plus years ago, when the S8 came out. When Samsung came out with the infinity screen, I knew then that Apple was always going to lag behind in brand new advancements. I wouldn't liken Apple to a German car. I own a German car and while they are expensive, they have always been pioneers in new and groundbreaking technology, not so much Apple.

      I was able to get a Note 9 for $1250 after cashback, and comparing it to XS Max at $2400…..no comparison really, the bang for buck for the Note is off the charts good.

      • -1 vote

        I was liking Apple to a german car more because of the perceived value. You can drive an all kitted Honda but its still a Honda. While BMW/Mercs hold its own respect and people have a different perception towards it.

        I’m personally still undecided. I love Apple look & feel and I’m a highly visual person - so it affects me greatly. Android is cheaper and does so much more, but for some reason I still see iOS visual designs as a superior one. Plus I’m already invested in the apps and all.

        But at that price different though. It might be worth the sacrifice..

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          German cars are just that. Made in Germany. German precision and quality. Problem with phones is they are all made in China including iPhones. The design language of ph oknes has caught up with Apple. Have a look at the OPPO Find X and tell me that isn't a beautiful phone albeit fragile.

        • +1 vote

          I was liking Apple to a german car more because of the perceived value.

          I feel like you're talking about British cars then. Euro-car brand position and design, sub-German car tech and quality.

        • +1 vote

          @NotAnAudiophile: It's really not just about the hardware. Sure, Apple's gear is quite polished and consumers know their hardware can be relied on to be very well developed and implemented. But it is more about how they handle personal data, provide supporting services, and implement and maintain the software, that defines the value they provide.

          For my needs, they provide the best balance of these aspects. Even though I find their UI old and creaky (Steve's single home button may be going, but until the keyboard swipes, the old-school navigation and each app's settings panes are more sensibly accessed), it remains devoid of some key innovations that Android and others have implemented, scrapped and sometimes kept over the years. iOS wins simply because the OS, as well as the supporting ecosystem is more reliable, robust and far more secure (not that it is anywhere near good enough given what we use phones for these days). As well as suffering less from 3rd party add-ins that compromise access and data.

          Likening phones to cars isn't ideal, as no cars use modern computer technology- each brand uses commodity control systems implemented specifically for each model in an appallingly diluted form of 'best effort' engineering. It sees each brand offering products that are nowhere near their potential.

          But then again, investing in the production of cars powered by petroleum was already insane 10 years ago, so why should car companies bother improving anytime soon?

      • +1 vote

        What's the performance like?
        I have owned 2 Samsung Galaxy's before upgrading to an iphone. I found them deteriorating in performance rapidly. Often thinking of upgrading at 1.5 year mark. My currently iPhone 6 is 4 yo and has been dropped on the floor more often than the previous 2 phones combined, it is still going strong.

        Torn because new iPhones are so expensive, yet my experience with Apple has been great (Also owned 2 ipads and a mac).

    • +4 votes

      One other thing to note is that the phones no longer come with the lightning to 3.5mm cable

    • +1 vote

      I have mostly apple products, however, after my iphone died I bought a Huawei P20 Pro. First time out of apple stuff in ages. The phone is amazing, really well made and looks great, battery lasts and lasts, amazing camera and beautiful display.

      However, I really don't like operating it compared to the iphone. Without sounding too cliche, the apple stuff just works, it runs smoothly and most importantly it all integrates soooo well with other apple stuff and this is very noticeable. The Huawei feels clunky, kind of like a whole load of stuff squashed in that is struggling to work together. This is a personal opinion and of course other will say differently. If I had my time again I would have stuck with another iphone despite the price.

      I'm very tempted with the iphone XR. Apparently an noticeable battery improvement which is probably my stand out need.

      • +1 vote

        Exactly my experience. I also find them best bang for buck for the high end market. They get updates for years and my last iPhone lasted me 4 years (a 6) and would have lasted longer if I didn’t get tempted by the ridiculous Optus deal for the 8 last December.

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    Merged from Should I Buy iPhone X or Jump into The New iPhone Xs

    I am currently using iPhone 6 (16gb) and have been waiting on the new iPhone Xs released but looking at the specs that have little difference from the last year's iPhone X (let alone the hefty price tag of $1,629, 64gb) I am very hesitated if I should jump into the iPhone Xs or just get iPhone X with discounted price of about $1,300 from the recent JB hifi or Allphone deal.
    Any advice guys?

    • +1 vote

      I am also on the Iphone 6, but the thought of dropping ~$1500 on a phone seems crazy. Ride out the 6 until you have no other choice

      • -1 vote

        Is it though? People in the office quite happily pay $4-5 for a cup of coffee from the plethora of the coffee shops around and $12 for a salad box pretty much every single day. Sometimes several coffees a day when there's free coffee provided in office. $1500 iPhone turns out to effectively be $2 a day over 2 years. Considering how much use it will get all day long both for personal and work, that doesn't seem too heavy. Not to mention incredible resale value at the end where you'll get at least 60-70% of the value back when resold.

        Granted, for many people it's still not worth it if they don't use it daily so much to justify but for many, it's the primary device.

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          Yeah, those people that buy coffees when there's a decent free one in the office.. I really dont get it.

        • +1 vote

          Everyone has their own priorities, I get that.
          But what does the Iphone X do that the Iphone 6 can't that is truly worth $1500?
          All I see is bells and whistles, that primary device you speak about hasn't really changed in the last 5 years.

        • +4 votes

          @cypher67: w
          - OLED screen as oppose to LCD screen
          - 459 ppi pixel density as oppose to 326 ppi
          - 12MP f1.8 rear camera as oppose to 8MP f2.2
          - 2.0x optical zoom camera as oppose to none
          - IP67 protection as oppose to none
          - A11 chip as oppose to A8
          - Hexa core as oppose to Dual core
          - 3GB RAM vs 1GB RAM
          - 2700maH battery as oppose to 1810maH

          .. amongst many others

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          @John:
          Those are all performance related, doesn't change how I am going to use the phone. Having all those things doesn't enable me any new functionality.

        • +1 vote

          @cypher67: I'm only pointing the difference to show that your statement is specific only to you. So you can't really bag the iPhone X just because its not something you need. You could really rephrase it as "what does the Iphone X do that the Iphone 6 can't that is truly worth $1500 to me?" To some people their phone is also their camera, their entertainment device.. so those specs would actually matter to them.

          So.. "What does iPhone X do that iPhone 6 can't?" Well, a lot. You just don't need it I suppose.

        • +2 votes

          @John:
          God I wish I was Apple, selling extremely basically specced phones for exorbitant prices, year after year. Oled displays have been out for years and years. My old Nexus 5 has about the same ppi as you've noted, and it's about 5 years old. Most Chinese and Android phones have had 4gb RAM and octa core processors for years.

          It honestly boggles my mind that people pay $2k for this rubbish, when they just payed nearly $2k for basically the same rubbish the year before. Except now you can so inane things like animate an emoji. Take my money!

        • +2 votes

          How many times have you posted this same comment?

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        Also on Iphone 6! I keep waiting for "the next release" but they just keep getting more and more expensive.

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      you should YOLO and jump on this deal https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/402745

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        Wow that's cheap! I'll cancel my car insurance, and put it all on my 50k debt credit card.

        Thanks!

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      of course get the latest the most expensive the most advanced phone on the market.
      worry about repayments later, we have centrelink to help anyway

    • +1 vote

      drop apple altogether and live your life

    • +3 votes

      Neither, get a 200 dollar phone and save 2K.

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      I cannot justify additional $300 for the new iphone Xs over the old iphone X

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