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23 and Me Ancestry DNA Test 30% off US $69 (~AU $94)

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Usually $99USD. Now $69 USD + Free gift wrap

This is only Ancestry but yo can download the raw data and upload it to a 3rd party for free genetic health report.

p.s. first deal, so don't shoot.

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  • If you actually want a genetic test, get one done properly. This will mean nothing to you unless you have studied genetics or genetic counseling for over 5 years. It's like googling your symptoms instead of seeing a doctor. If you are here for the ancestry thing, then yea go ahead.

    • +2

      Saying you should net get the test done unless you have studied genetic counselling is like saying don't take a paracetamol unless you have done medical school isn't it? Note this is a question.

      • +1

        Interpreting genetic results is entirely different to taking a paracetamol. I hope that you understand this. I can read the instructions on the paracetamol box and understand nearly everything I need to about it, but anything as far as interactions I would need to go see a doctor or pharmacist. Genetic test results on the other hand, is like me reading the ingredients of Oreo, literally means nothing to the untrained eye.

  • +21

    Read about the possible risks before considering this:
    https://theconversation.com/five-things-to-consider-before-o…
    As point 5 states, you're potentially paying to give away your genetic information.

    • Some services are a lot better than others. Read the fine print!

      • +4

        Can you name one that won't provide your info to third parties?

        • Unless it slipped past me, I'm pretty sure 23andme only uses your data for anonymized research purposes if you opt-in.

          • +1

            @damion: I read the t&c's, you're right these guys appear to be one of the better ones, in terms they currently claim you need to give explicit consent before they use/pass on you info. That can change of course.

            Although by the sounds of it, you need to pass your result onto a third party to get any "meaningful" results. That'd be where the fun starts.

            Personally I still don't trust them to keep infomration safe. The DNA database would be worth a lot of money. If they get hacked or bought out, that's a goldmine of info.

            Lastly you are required by law to hand over these DNA testing results to life insurance companies (seriously!). How long before that extends to health insurance, and even work places.

            • +2

              @[Deactivated]: before the FDA clipped 23andme's wings, their full genetic analysis service was pretty good.
              Now that's gone, I've used promethease (spelling?), and as far as I understand, they pretty much only store your info while it's being processed into a report, and then it's deleted.

              It's only a goldmine of info to very particular people. I'm definitely going to change health insurance providers if I discover they've gotten hold of my DNA data from hackers. If it's fully anonymized, it's not much good to anyone.
              There's a lot more other things to be concerned with, privacy-wise.
              Our Government holds most of your important stuff, and I'd personally trust the security of a dna testing company than the Australian government!

              Lastly, as well, you're not required by law. It's their own company rules, not the governments'.
              It's a criteria for some health/life insurance companies, but not all. The specific clause in mine said I only had to disclose if I had genetic testing done on advice/request of a physician.

  • +3

    Also another note: if you've committed any felonies (indictable crime here in Aus), or are on the run from the police, or are otherwise living under a fake identity, don't use this service.

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/ampht…

    • +6

      Or, more importantly, ensure none of your relatives use this service.

    • +1

      or use someone you don’t like name and send your dna if you have done a crime …..cool way to get your. neighbours arrested until they do another test.

    • In the interest of locking up scumbags at large all criminals on the run and their relatives should definitely get this test done!! if I had a relative on the run from the law I would get this done to help the cops catch them!

      • +1

        Aren’t the cops already after them? How would having your DNA help?

  • +1

    What is 23andme charging for postage nowadays?
    Last time I used myheritage because it was nearly half the price once factoring in postage.

  • +7

    I’m 17% victim.

    • if it shows you being part indigenous imagine all the extra benefits you can tap into ….jobs, school scholarships , etc.

      • -1

        Really? I am part indigenous and in a difficult situation at the moment work wise. Would like to change jobs but nearly 50 and can't afford retraining and rent at the same time.

    • Is that 17% aborigine? Or 17% african american? or 17% female?

      • I guess they could also be some combination, like 9% aborigine, 6% african american, and 2% female… does victimhood stack like that? (because… intersectionality?) Do you get a bonus if you're more than one? Like bonus +2% victimhood if you fall into two or more categories?

  • +2

    Neg for $40 shipping. US$

    • Shots fired.

    • +1

      Shipping is both ways - they use courier services to transport your samples back to US.. hence probably justifies it.. slightly.. :P

    • +1

      Is there a cheaper option right now for 23&me?

  • How is this different from ordering from the Australian site.

    The Australian site has this for $A89 (+shipping)

    https://www.ancestry.com.au/dna/

    Plus 10% back from Cashrewards (14% shoback)

    • +1

      23andme and ancestry are different companies offering (somewhat) different services.

      • +2

        ah yes slight oversight by me.

        Thanks

        I wonder if I can blame that on my DNA?

  • +4

    Just note that if you do conduct any genetic testing you must disclose that information to any insurance provider and they may choose to refuse you insurance/coverage depending on what those results yield.

    • +1

      This. This is the key takeaway. If you refuse to disclose information about your discovered risk profile for future illness, you run the real risk of being accused of fraud and receiving no payout. Knowing that you are at a higher risk of developing the diseases that we are currently able to check for will very likely negatively affect your ability to secure 'fair' private health insurance.

      Speaking for myself, I have already been employed by a company that purchased business insurance on me as an asset. This required a medical certificate that asks for the disclosure of any known genetic risk profiles. Regulation will always be struggling to keep up with companies trying to benefit from these tests.

      Granted you will still be in a much better position that the >7 million poor American's who saw value in these heavily subsidized genetic tests.

      No deal.

      • I dont know about this one but the one I did only told me what % I was of different heritages and opened me up to semi regular emails from elderly americans doing their family tree research. Maybe i didnt buy the right plan but i never received any risk analysis of my susceptibility for different genetic conditions, just access to a few dashboards about my long distant ancestors.

    • You don't need to provide your real name to 23andMe , so the test will be anonymous

    • Hit or miss…

      • yep,

    • +4

      How is this a scam?

      You should read the articles you post not just the headline.

    • If you read the Ts&Cs of the particular service, and you know the particular markers you're looking for it's quite a good deal and not a scam at all.

    • +1

      If you have a relative that is a murderer on the run why would you want to help hide them. Why not help the cops catch them

    • FUD.. last article was for Ancestry.com (different competitor) and not 23andme.

  • +9

    gee didn't know I'd get so much hate for my first post. oh well.. carry on :D

    • +7

      If anything, the comments are a good psa on the dangers of these things. That’s pretty good.

      In your defense though, it seems everyone has overlooked the free gift wrapping.

    • +12

      no hate to you. Just the product.

      keep posting, but as always, don't take criticism or negs of the productpersonally, none of it's directed at you.

    • -4

      I am not sure I am all that bothered by people getting caught for DNA evidence they have left at the scene of their crime.

      Health insurance, I can't afford it anyway so that is in the other people's problems category.

    • Hahaha no hate. It's just an… interesting… service that's all.

  • Bad deal for serial killer Ozbargainers.

  • +3

    No thanks. I'd like private health insurance in the future and don't want pre-existing conditions I'm unaware of being outed before I've even taken coverage.

  • I really want to do this as I believe is will make me a more interesting person at parties.

    • Sure, you can then tell people you're a fast or slow caffeine metaboliser, or if you've got the gene that makes you less susceptible to attract mosquitoes!
      They'll surely be interested in those!

  • +1

    What is the most useful thing it could possibly tell someone? You are likely to get early onset dementia? If there is a genetic abnormality in your family you already know about it. Maybe it's useful for orphans and adoptees.

    • +1

      Alzheimers is a good one to check for because: it kills a lot of people, cognitive decline is scares the living poop out of me, and according to some recent work a lot of it can be prevented with lifestyle/diet changes (look up Dale Bredesen).

      Also about 40-65% of Alzheimers patients carry the ApoE4 gene. If you have two copies of ApoE4, your chances of developing it are 20x higher than someone without two copies.

      If you want to check what variants of ApoE you have, it's something you can find out using the raw data from 23andMe (ancestry.com is known to give false positives for this gene).

  • +4

    I've done the 23andMe test and it does NOT provide any health information, so all the posts about insurance, disclosure, etc are irrelevant to this particular deal. The 23andMe web site states "Due to applicable regulations, 23andMe only offers an Ancestry Personal Genetic Service in international markets and health reports are not available."
    It gives quite a comprehensive report about your ancestry (67% German, 2% Scandinavian, etc), and provides a list of "DNA relatives" and what percentage of DNA they share with you, ie how closely they are related. Out of more than 1000 names I only recognised one (my son - phew!). Problem is it only links you with other subscribers to 23andMe, who are overwhelmingly American. If you are of mostly European ancestry and want to discover distant relatives you'd be better off going with one of the European based DNA testing companies.

  • +2

    Smarter Every Day did a good video about these guys. Breaks down what you actually get from this and he actually went to the lab and asked questions about privacy etc.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3EEmVfbKNs

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