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Hi Everyone,
Running a sale on this luxury clock.
Running until early next week - 20% off is the largest discount we've had so get in quick.
Only until stock lasts!
Thanks,
Minimalist Framed Wall Clock $151.96 (Usually $189) @ Yellow Element
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AssociatedLYellowElemental on 14/02/2019 - 15:48 yellowelement.com.au (185 clicks)
Last edited 14/02/2019 - 16:15 by 1 other user
Last edited 14/02/2019 - 16:15 by 1 other user
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Try again. We need to see the price in the title.
Wouldn't a minimalist leave the wall empty and forego knowing the time? Maybe it's a philosophical question.
I believe there's a spectrum of minimalism. The time is still an important thing to track even in a minimalist lifestyle. :)
Ah, I get it now … you have to be on the spectrum to understand the deal.
Destruction: 100
It must be free
Wait. I still don't know how much this is?
Usually, it is $189, but apparently not now. Therefore, I can confidently tell you that it is not $189.
I just clicked on the link and added it to cart but the price hasn't changed. There's no discount.
You should stick to lurking
I think you've picked the wrong website to spruik $152 dollar clocks pal.
Also it's over $50 cheaper here
https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/655100716/large-metal-wall-c…
Cheaper again here
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Amazon-hot-sale-creat…
Not a bargain.
Doing a reverse image search reveals a few stores with the exact same clock using the same image.
It's available on AliExpress for $71.44
As above cheaper on Aliexpress garbage.
Not what this site was made for.
From their website "Luxury Homewares without the middleman."
You literally ARE the middleman LOL. You're purchasing cheap from AliBaba!
Also you need evidence of selling at least one piece at $189 or you're committing an offence. Plus you haven't registered the business name which is another no no.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/prices-surcharges-receipts…Their website is also exactly the same as https://ivyandwilde.com/products/minimalist-framed-wall-cloc… so they must be using a few names.
Probably just copyright infringement. The whois records for ivyandwilde don't show any connection.
Also you need evidence of selling at least one piece at $189 or you're committing an offence
I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't think there's any such requirement. They've offered a coupon code to a subset of potential customers, its legit. In all honestly, they're probably not going to sell a single piece at the full price or discounted price.
Plus you haven't registered the business name which is another no no.
Again, I don't think there's any requirement for this. The domain is registered under a sole trader ABN, which meets the minimum requirement.
Although there is some mis-representation, when the item says "Tax Included", but the sole trader isn't registered for GST.
You're wrong. They are both legal requirements.
Note that a mod or OP has modified the title since I posted so it should now comply:
Competition and Consumer Act 2010 Sch 2 s18(1)coincidentally also s18 - requirement to register a business name
Business Names Registration Act 2011 s18(1)You're wrong. They are both legal requirements.
Maybe, but you're doing a terrible job of stating your case.
Competition and Consumer Act 2010 Sch 2 s18(1)
For everyone else's benefit that just says: "A person must not, in trade or commerce, engage in conduct that is misleading or deceptive or is likely to mislead or deceive.". I don't see anything misleading or deceptive about offering a coupon on ozbargain.
Did you even read the link you posted earlier to the ACCC guidelines on price displays? The yellow elemental site only displays 1 price and you can buy it at the higher price, by not using the coupon code.
Take the example of the semi-permanent 5% coupon ebay has. According to your logic, that would be breaching the same guidelines/laws … but it doesn't. It's perfectly legal to have price discrimination through the use of coupons.
Note that a mod or OP has modified the title since I posted so it should now comply:
Check the revision history for this page - The OP added the original price to the title and the mod added the discounted price. If there is a breach of the price display guidelines, how does it comply now? I'm not even sure what you're arguing here. Is it that post on OzBargain is breaching the law of the OPs website is breaching the law?
Business Names Registration Act 2011 s18(1)
You might have something here, but there's no requirement to register every domain as a 'business name'. It's common for businesses to operate multiple website through url redirects, white labeling arrangements, etc. These businesses don't register every domain as a business name - it's just too cumbersome. Think about all the variations and mis-spellings that you might register as a domain name. I would argue that there's probably only a breach if the final invoice mentions an unregistered business name.
@salmon123: Where did I ever discuss the domain name? Never.
Also not my job to explain things to you.
The website store and branding clearly represents a business name.
coincidentally also s18 - requirement to register a business name
Have a look at this link. It's not the most credible source, but they have a reasonable description of the difference between a domain name and a business name.
The OP has obtained an ABN as a sole trader, which is actually exempt from the BUSINESS NAMES REGISTRATION ACT 2011 - SECT 18, paragraph 2a.
@salmon123: "the entity is an individual and the name is the individual’s name"
OP's parents named them Mr Yellow Element?
Try again.
the entity is an individual and the name is the individual’s name
If you don't understand the difference between a website and a business name, I can't help you.
@salmon123: OP clearly advertising goods for sale using the name "Yellow Element"
Their name doesn't appear anywhere except for a small blurb on the About page which mentions their first name only.
Yellow Element is not a registered business name. They are not advertising goods for sale using their legal name. Honestly it's not that hard to comprehend.
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: yeah - you might be on to something. You should make a career out of suing websites that haven't registered a business name. /sarcasm
Putting up a website with a certain domain and logos doesn't mean you have to register it as a business name. I'm not sure how many other ways to say it. Here's a few examples I found (canstar.com.au, vividwireless.com.au, onlinecompany.com.au).
@salmon123: In regards to your first paragraph, resorting to playing the man is always a sound identifier of a specific kind of person.
Regarding your second paragraph, that's a straw man argument. I never wrote anything contained in your first sentence.
Price in title?