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Immersive audio meets wireless smart technology in the Panasonic 40W Google Assistant Smart Speaker, making it a wonderful addition to your home entertainment setup. Showcasing a compact, minimalist design, it blends seamlessly with your home décor scheme.
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https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/16/panasonic-sc-ga10-review…
Looks like a good speaker for this price, but RRP was too high
It’s definitely a nice clean sound. I picked up 2 and stereo paired them via the Google Home app. Easy to do and works well. Much better than a google home in terms of sound quality and looks very neat too.
can you actually 'stereo' pair them? or just pair them?
I mean i didn't see an option to assign left or right speaker on home app. Any pointers on how to do it?
Yep, in the pairing setup google home will flash the light on one of the speakers and ask which it is, you then just click the correct one and it assumes the other.
@[Deactivated]: thanks for that. did not know you could do it. But found that it can only be done to bigger speakers, and not with mini
@superm86: If your using a mini, consider getting a chromecast audio and hooking up to normal speakers. Then tell google home mini to make them default speaker for music.
Good speaker, RRP too high but $95 is a steal. Sound definitely better that mini etc, but have not got a full size "home" to compare to. Bass/treble levels out of the box are stuffed, have to use panasonic app to change but is fine then, may not have helped in store demos.
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/panasonic-40w-google-assista…
Out of 15 reviews all received the unit by Panasonic for reviews. Am I missing something?
They just pull the reviews from the site.
My guess is people who buy from Harvey Norman cbf doing a review.
They are still very good.
Thanks got 2 delivered for free via Shipster. :D
Good use of Shipster before they close down.
When is Shipster closing?
If it was well overpriced for its value, then how much discounted should be ignored? if this was the 1st time hearing this product, would you shell out $95 for it based on reviews out there and similar priced alternatives available? do you even need another e-concierge in the 1st place? :)
I bought it from jb $99 deal and it’s definitely worth it for 99 but for rrp it’s complete ripoff
Will Google remove support from Panasonic from this because it contains chinese parts?
Only if Google also decides to removes Chinese engineers.
If the US government tells them to.
Does this pair up well with iPhone?
Really no need to pair it up once you have Google Assistant set up. Google Home is available as an app for iPhones.
Can 2 of these can be paired for stereo sound?
NM, found it in a review:
Stereo pairing (when available although Google Home also handles this)
Yes it can as i paired 2 of them through the Google Home app and it runs as stereo.
How is Google Assistant handling the 2 units linked as a stereo system?
It works just fine. I haven't had any problem.
@hollykryten: Thanks, I shall reformulate my question:
Is one of the paired speakers becoming master and shutting down the microphone on the other one or is it smarter and using both as an array?
Or is it a competition? (like with the google mini and the 2 mobiles in the same room)
@cristtos: When two speakers are paired, your Assistant lives and responds on the left speaker. To use your Assistant on the right speaker, unpair the speakers using the steps below. Then you can use your Assistant on both speakers.
(This is from Google max support but presume generally applicable)
@Jonty766: I think you want the assistant in only 1 Speaker, otherwise you are going to have a possible endless back & forth conversation between assistants every time you trigger them.
@thebadmachine: Absolutely.
Also if you unpair them they are no longer in stereo so defeats the purpose of having two anyway.
Copped. I use my Google home mini a lot and am unsatisfied with it's sound output so hopefully this will fix.
Damn i just paid $99 each for 2 of these from JB.
Be thankful you haven't given Gerry $$$ to go towards his Taj Mahal stables.
Yep good point.
this has chinese backdoor, made in china
So is the Google Home itself i would say. Any other Google Assistant device not made in China?.
How about toilet paper made in China? Backdoor to a backdoor.
How many microphones (compared to Google Home mini)?
I wondering if the voice pickup would be as good as a GH.
According to this review there's dual mics.
https://www.pcmag.com/review/356009/panasonic-sc-ga10
I know that the Google Home mini and full size Google Home also has dual mics. So this compares to the Google Home in that regard.
And this pic shows an inside look at the speaker. It has one woofer and two tweeters. So you need two speakers to run in stereo. Two speakers can be paired up to run in stereo and that's done in the Google Home app.
https://www.panasonic.com/content/dam/Panasonic/au/en/AVC/ho…
I read somewhere that the input mics are the problem with this speaker, as the units noise cancelling for 'ok Google' chants go unheard when playing music often…
Thanks for the replies.
With Amazon Echo Plus (first gen at least) having 7 microphones, 2 would probably be the bear minimum or, perhaps, not enough (as suggested).
2 bears are hardly a minimum, would be scared of even one.
They will be more afraid of you if you attach yourself to a shark
White is gone :( Picked up 2 in black though.
Ordered 2 - I guess there is no point in having only one (for stereo reasons)
One is already stereo but putting 2 together works well.
How do you think that it's stereo as each speaker only has one woofer?. You can't have real stereo through one woofer alone. That is not stereo at all. You need two speakers with a woofer in each speaker with two audio channels to make stereo. The paring with two speakers kicks in stereo mode.
I too previously made that mistake thinking that one of the speakers meant stereo but it's not.
Two speakers paired together make stereo in dual audio stereo channels. The pairing is configured in the Google Home app.
Each speaker has 2 smaller speakers and a woofer inside of it. Definitely not mono.
@[Deactivated]: You are talking about the 2x 2cm tweeters which will be likely producing frequencies of ~17khz and upwards (top of average human hearing range is usually 18-22khz depending on your ears).
As a reference the Sony SS-CS5 bookshelf speaker uses the same size tweeter, which is only effective in the 17khz-50khz range).
The 2x tweeters will struggle to produce lower frequencies accurately, so a cross-over (or DSP) will strip them of any content below ~17khz. Therefore there will be a lack of proper stereo separation with a single SC-GA10.
I suspect the single 3.15-inch woofer will play full-range, just like most other smart speakers.
The single woofer will be mono when listening (you will notice a lack of separation between left & right on tracks you know to contain stereo separation).
This Panasonic SC-GA10 Smart Speaker is marketed as ‘Hi-Res Audio’ compatible, so I suspect this is the reason for the 2x 2cm tweeters in addition to the single full-range driver (to achieve frequencies of 22.5khz and above associated with Hi-Res Audio).
In conclusion I would expect a single SC-GA10 to have as much ‘Stereo separation’ as a single Google home.
Nowhere on the website or specifications does it state a single speaker is ‘Stereo’.
Note: in specs, Amp Type: Lincs D-Amp / 2ch (3rd generation), most likely refers to bi-amping meaning 1 amp drives the 2x tweeters & 1 amp drives the woofer.
@thebadmachine: That’s some good information there. To be honest, I personably bought 2 anyways and they sound good enough together. I mean at $180 total, wasn’t really going to complain anyways.
@[Deactivated]: Yes I imagine they are at their best and intended to be used / bought in pairs, since they are marketed as ‘Hi-Res’ smart speakers.
For those satisfied with slightly better sound than a single Google Home, just one will suffice.
They likely tried to encourage sales of a single unit, to keep up with competition & help the appeal of the niche market (smart speaker combined with Hi-Res Audio) the SC-GA10 sits within.
I myself find these products interesting, while at the same time some may think it is an odd thing which is in between two incompatible products.
Also it’s worth mentioning to experiment with adjusting the EQ in Panasonic App as mattman mentioned, to get the best sound signature.
(According to a review I read EQ settings are saved within speaker)
good find should post it as a deal
Thanks OP
Picked up 2 in black
Couldn't resist…
Can you still pair 2 in stereo if using Aux in?
According to the specs yes. (Read just above where it says ‘stereo pair’)
Although reviews say there is latency when using them for video (even through AUX input), probably due to the speakers connecting wirelessly.
Good to hear~
Just picked up one this arvo, audio quality isn't bad, def. better than my 3 yrs old little xiao mi bluetooth speaker. High is reasonable clear, bass is there(not heavy but there), vocal not muffed(7 news).
Connected to my Panasonic plasma(not smart tv) via Aux, for a single speaker there is no latency at all, and it sounds better then the tv speaker that started crackling on mid-low range on average volumn.
Other than the volumn control is seperated… well stupid enough the tv has 'headphone volumn' hidden in the "menu" settings -_-' I have to "hey google" to adjust the volumn lol
Thanks for sharing.
I’m guessing when using 2x units in stereo for TV, the first (single) speaker receives the AUX direct so latency is fine, but the 2nd Speaker receives the signal wirelessly so it’s delayed, therefore the 1st speaker adds the delay equal to the 2nd speaker (with software) so that the 2 are in sync. So both play with the latency of the 2nd (wireless) speaker.
I read a customer review by someone trying the stereo pair with TV, complained latency was too much so they returned both. It is possible they failed to set-it up properly, but logically it makes sense.
The Good Guys Helensvale price matched this for me if that's helpful to anyone.
At Harvey Norman Fountain Gate, I was able to get 2 for $150. Only 1 left.
Do you know why they sold it at $150?
Do you have a receipt if possible?
The sales guy offered me 2, so I said, OK what about $150. Unfortunately I'm out and I won't have access to the receipt for 24 hours. It's a clearance item, they want to get rid of them.
I called up a different HM, who even called the FG store but they told my store they didn't know of such a sale. HM said they need to see a receipt to see what they can do, but didn't want to risk it so bought it at $95.
Thanks anyway though!
For anyone still after this - Black is available @JB for $99 in Campbeltown(NSW) , Burleigh Heads and Tweeds City (QLD) for C & C
I ordered a paire of the speaker yesterday and I have received them this morning. It's quick.
Don’t know why it’s marked as out of stock. Plenty in qld. Nth BNE and Sunshine Coast
Any advice? Reviews?