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Philips Hue Smart Bulbs $11.80 (Exp), Smart Bridge/ Tap Switch $29 + Delivery ($0 Prime / $39 Spend) @ Amazon AU

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  • +3

    At $11.80 hard to see why not replace all your globes with these. IMO colour is a waste of time go for ambiance unless some feature lighting.

    Also this does stack with the "Save 20% on select smart home when you buy an Echo device" promo.

    • +3

      Also this does stack with the "Save 20% on select smart home when you buy an Echo device" promo.

      Yes it does, just tested.

    • This

      Even in my feature room setup I hardly use the color function. Might change tho when the HDMI sync comes out at the end of this year

      • +1

        Agreed. Colour novelty wore off very quickly. I just like automatic lights with varying shades of white and yellow now.

    • +1

      I guess it depends on how many globes you have in your house

    • Love the colour. Use it all the time when watching movies or playing a game

    • If you were genuinely wondering why people wouldn't replace all their globes at this price; I'm one of them.

      If I was on my own and never had guests around, I'd consider going with Hues. But relying on your old physical switches being left on is a non-starter for me.

      I'm waiting for some more competition in the smart-switch space. Ctecs are too exe and the cheapies don't seem to be certified?

      • You can still just use the switches.

        • +3

          Exactly. That's the annoying point:
          - someone uses the old-school switch to turn off your smart bulb
          - it works for them (light goes off)
          - later, you go to use your cool smart bulb
          - it doesn't work
          - you have to walk to the wall and turn the switch back on

          • +3

            @psnatch: You're really missing the point. There are many features you can take advantage of regardless.

            You can set timers so that at night time even if you're just using the switches, it turns on much dimmer, set it so that at 3am if someone turns on the toilet light, it uses 30% brightness, during the day set it to 100%. You can set them so that by flicking the power switch twice it starts a different scene (dimmer or movie setting or something like that). You can leave them on when you go on holidays and set timers to come on during normal hours at night and back off.

            That aside, you can cover over the power switch and put a Hue switch next to it. They'll learn fast enough.

            The point OP was making, is that they are almost the same price as normal LED bulbs, so why not use them regardless. If they just get used as normal bulbs with normal switches most of the time, it doesn't hurt them, and you still get the added features when you want.

            • +1

              @tromboc: Nope. Not missing any point. I was just trying to provide an example (my situation) where the Hue solution isn't a good one.

              I like the features you listed, but to me they are auxiliary. The primary function (light on/off) being randomly available via voice (depending on how the last person turned the light off) is too annoying for me.

              I've experienced this testing with a Xiaomi bulb in our home office: ok Google, turn on office light. Oh, someone turned it off at the wall? Great. I'll just walk over and power it up again…

              Sure, I could cover the old switches and buy a tonne of Hue Tap Switches, but that's both ugly and expensive.

              For me, this mitigates the original value-for-everyone proposition I was responding to and (for my living situation) is inferior to smart switches.

              They are effing cool though, just not for me :)

              • +1

                @psnatch: I get what you mean. To counter this, I've bought Sonoff Mini's, and plan to put them in the cavity behind the wall switch.
                Using these, the wall switch can be turned off and on (acting like a normal switch) but you can still remotely turn the circuit off/on as well, which is what you and I lazy asses want!
                Look into them: https://www.itead.cc/sonoff-mini.html
                Let me know what you think!

                • @XeSSiV: Ohhhh nice! So rather than down for on and up for off, flicking the switch either way will simply toggle state?

                  i.e. Similar to a multi-way switch?

                  That is really cool! Thanks for the suggestion!! The price definitely works - now to check whether they're legal haha :)

                  • @psnatch: Please let us know what you find out about the legality :)

              • +1

                @psnatch: I guess we are looking for different things from them. I've had hues hooked up for a few years now and never once used voice control…. :)

                • @tromboc: Ahhh, right. My initial response didn't make it clear enough that high-availability of voice-controls is why this isn't a good value proposition for us. Sorry for the confusion caused :)

                  We ripped the innards out of our 90's intercom system and shoved GHome Minis in all of them a while ago, so voice working seamlessly is high on the list.

              • +1

                @psnatch: I appreciate this dialogue - good list of pros and cons to consider.

  • 70% off - nice - picked up 10 globes - thanks OP

    • did you order off 2 seperate accounts?

      • They must of, as I tried to buy another 5 and it advised I had already purchased the maximum amount

  • So I need to buy the bridge too? I'm confuse. I have Xiaomi yeelight bulb and don't need anything else. Just plug in and they works with hi Google turn off and on.

    • Yea, curious what the bridge is for.

      • +1

        Wifi is extremely power inefficient always sucking quite a bit of power, so the globes don't use it.
        The bridge converts wifi to a more efficient low power protocol, so only one wifi power waster instead of every bulb.

    • +1

      Yes you will need the bridge for smart features.

      • +2

        Then I am out. Sounded like a good deal for a while.

      • +3

        If you have an Echo Plus you don't need the bridge.

        You will miss some other features though, but you can do all the basics (dim, change colour etc) without a Hue Hub.

        • Thanks - is it possible to turn lights on/off away from the house with just echo plus (ie without the bridge)? Or is that one of the features that you'll miss

    • with yeelight, do you need to install any Xiaomi app on your phone? or just Google Assistance?

    • +2

      Yes you’ll need the bridge for the Philips hue lights to work with smart devices.
      The difference is the Yeelight just uses wifi whereas Hue uses the Zigbee protocol, which requires a bridge because it’s a different frequency.

    • +42

      The three common smart light and smart home wireless standard used are Wi-Fi, Zigbee, and Bluetotoh. Yeelight and generally most cheaper smart products uses the Wi-Fi standard or Bluetooth. Philips Hue uses Zigbee.

      Wi-Fi lights are cheaper, don't require a hub, and are generally much quicker to set up. The downsides are that their range and the number of lights you can have is limited by your router. You're going to encounter networking issues if you start connecting a lot of Wi-Fi lights to your router, especially if you're using a stock ISP provided router that can't handle many devices.

      Zigbee on the other hand won't have those sort of issues, with the Philips Hue Bridge able to connect up to 50 devices with no problem since it won't be clogging up the congested 2.4GHz band that most Wi-Fi lights use (including Yeelights). Since Zigbee works on as a mesh network, range from the bridge can be effectively increased by the lights themselves since they're all connected to each other. That said, the Philips Hue is more expensive and requires forking out money for a bridge. Set up takes a bit longer. And there aren't many options for devices that work with the Philips Hue, so streamlining all the lights and devices you want under one environment may not be easily accomplished.

      Bluetooth isn't as common. It doesn't bother with the need for a router or a bridge, and instead connects directly with your phone. Of course you lose a lot of functionality this way.

      Long story short: If you're only using a couple of smart lights at home, Wi-Fi lights should just be fine. If you already have a lot of devices on your router, and/or are looking to have an extensive network of smart lights and devices, perhaps a Zigbee light might be better.

      • +2

        zigbee uses 2.4ghz and a lot of the channels do in fact overlap with common wifi channels

        • +1

          @thecubical you're correct, but for me, a proliferation of wifi devices has capped my ability to assign fixed IP addresses via my router. This is even though the low levels of wifi traffic from most of the IOT devices means that I'm not having any noticeable congestion issues.
          Also, I could be wrong, but I've heard that ZigBee has less risk of congestion problems because the signals are typically weaker

      • New Hue lights (available overseas) also work with Bluetooth, which is possibly why they're clearing these out. You still need the hub for slightly more advanced functions (like turning off multiple bulbs with one switch).

      • Although negligible cost, doesn't wifi also use more power than ZigBee in the bulb's off state?

      • Good summary. You forgot another major protocol though: z-wave.
        Unlike ZigBee it's proprietry (which means most devices aren't cheap) but it works on a lower frequency that doesn't overlap with wifi.

        These are often recommended as smart switches/dimmers:
        https://aeotec.com/z-wave-light-dimmer-switch/

    • -2

      If you have Google Home or Echo Plus you don't need the bridge. They had a built-in Zigbee hub.

      • +3

        Are you sure Google Home has in-built Zigbee?

  • Bought 5 bulbs, thanks op!

  • +2

    Perfect for those who purchase the starter kits and wants to expand their collection.

    • Thats what im doing, got 4 bulbs!

  • does shopback track when using Amazon App?

    • Yeah if you open it through shopback app

  • I have a google home mini, do I still need the Bridge to get the Smart Bulbs work?
    I want them to turn on and off automatically at the hour I set

    • +2

      Yes, you'll need a bridge

      • +1

        Thanks, that's too expensive then

  • Amazing deal thanks op

  • +1

    I love me some Hue deals. Now can we get some deals on the outdoor sensors and light strips?

    Side note, those candles are overly priced even when on sale.

  • Do I need a bridge to use with the app? Not google or Alexa but just the Phillips app?

    • Yes, the lights connect to the bridge, not wifi. They are controlled by the bridge really

      • Is that correct? From what I understand if you buy the dimmer kit it connects directly to the switch and no bridge is needed. I would have thought the bulbs were the same and that you should be able to connect one of these bulbs with the smart tap switch that is also on sale without the bridge?

        • -1

          Everything connects to the bridge.

        • What you’ve heard is correct. If you buy the dimmer kit you can link the you lights up to the dimmer switch to be able to turn them on and off/dim them but you just won’t be able to use the smart functionality with Google/Alexa or change the colour of the light, if you get coloured bulbs.

          • +1

            @K1ngJony: Thanks, that’s what I thought. The dimmer switch description says “for the full experience connect to the bridge” but says it otherwise works as an on off, dimmer switch

  • +1

    Worth noting the gu10 color is also on sale for 39 bux

  • do these go bright enough for everyday use?

    • I have the normal E27 Philips 9.5 watt LED globes from the previous $3.49 Amazon deal and they're pretty good. One bulb will light up bedroom easily but not enough for living room space, at least 2 will be required.

      Also, for everyone else, yes, you NEED the Hue Bridge with these.

    • I find 800 lumens a touch low for a bedroom. 1000 lumens minimum is my preference.

      • Agreed. 2x800 is good, but a single 1000 would usually be ideal.

  • Thank OP! I guess 5 is max per account per item. I bought $59 start kit several weeks ago then looking for globes. This save me big$!

    • +2

      Positive vote?

  • +1

    Good deals. Wish it included the broader ecosystem as I’m in need of light strips.

    The switch is great as it’s kinetic powered so perfect for bedside tables too.

  • Great deal, 6 globes, bridge and tap switch for $129; now to find places for the 6 globes…

  • there was a limit of 5 bulbs of one sort so i ordered 2 bridges and tried to reorder 5 more bulbs but it wont let me
    is there any use for one house for 2 bridges?

    • +1

      Not really unless you have more than 50 bulbs then you'll need a second bridge. Cancel it.

    • +1

      Buying the starter kit is one of the most cost effective ways to get the bulbs, and you can generally re-sell the hub for $30-$50 on Gumtree. Still definitely not a bad idea to keep both orders.

  • +1

    FYI you don’t need the Philips Hue Bridge if you have the Echo Plus.

    • +1

      Unless you want to use Hue switches - then you will need the Hue bridge. The Echo Plus is fine for controlling the lights only.

      For $29 you might as well get the bridge anyway.

      • +2

        That might be true but I don't see the point of having physical switch when you can control the lights with your voice. Even when you prefer not to, your phone is literally the physical switch.
        Sure you can't do complex settings like room/scene but for me, on/off/dimming is pretty much all I need.
        And I read somewhere on r/Hue that Echo Plus does silently update the firmwares of those bulbs if anyone's concerned.
        Just thought I could save someone an extra $29 if they already have the Echo Plus.

        • Some people still don’t get it, my partner has trained their voice and still misses it half the time and then yells and activates lights in other parts of the house

        • Plus the light may not always be anywhere near your echo device

        • Get back to me after having smart bulbs for 6+ months.

          You'll soon realise that using a switch is actually easier than having to "Hey G, turn the damn lights off" every time you want to do something.

          The next step that most people dipping their toes into Home Automation go to is motion sensors, which I highly recommend. Why use a light switch OR your voice, when all you have to do is be in the room?

          • @trankillity: Bought smart globes about 4 months ago. Got annoyed by not being able to use switches anymore so installed smart switches everywhere. I recommend this to everyone now, as you have best of both worlds. Smart globes still get used for routines and dimming, so wasn’t a complete waste.

            • @Blunglefortness: Yeah, this is the most robust method. I have a similar setup for most of my lights with a mix of Hue Dimmer switches and Xiaomi buttons.

    • Also Echo Show (big one not little one)

    • Also far as I have been able to figure you can’t use room grouping with lights going through the Hue bridge with an Echo. As is with lights going via Exho Plus you can make a group say “Kitchen” add your kitchen Echo and kitchen lights then in that room when you say “Alexa turn off the light” it know which ones. But with the lights via Hue bridge this doesn’t work far as I have found.

      • I have 4 bedrooms each with a Hue light and either an Echo device or a Sonos One. The lights are linked to a Hue bridge and I use room grouping. "Alexa turn off the light" works in each room for me. Are some of your lights directly linked to the Echo Plus and some linked to the bridge? Maybe try grouping all the lights through the bridge?

  • thanks. picked up 10

  • +1

    yeah stacks on both of these deals, might want to update title

    Can get extra 20% off and 50% off on echo dot

    https://www.amazon.com.au/b?node=6946656051&pf_rd_p=f4dcbd68…

    https://www.amazon.com.au/b?node=6649494051

  • Does anyone use the motion sensor and find it useful? Thinking of adding to my study where I have 2 lamps, ty

    • +1

      Would be annoying if it turns off while you're still in there. Better used for areas where you don't intend on staying like entry ways.

    • +1

      Yes. Motion sensors are the real key to proper home automation. Why use your voice or a switch to control the lights when all you have to do is be present in the room?

      You can adjust MANY options with the sensors in the default Hue app and MANY more again in some of the third party apps.

      They also have the added benefit of having temperature and sunlight sensors in them (which can be read by most apps).

      • order arrived yesterday and the sensor in the entry hallway is fantastic, on without intervention and then turns it self off when no motion detected after a few minutes. (the trick now is teaching my roommates not to turn the switches off)

        • Easy solution to this is to literally tape a piece of paper over the entire switch with "Please don't turn off" written on it. They'll get the idea after a few weeks :)

    • Yeah motion sensors and switches from hue are brilliant. They work almost instantly unlike my lifx+Smartthings setup.

  • +1

    Great price, thanks OP. Now I just need to buy some nice lamps to deploy the bulbs into!

  • +1

    Fantastic price, never been this cheap before and likely won't for a while
    Managed to grab 10 bulbs, Hue Bridge and Amazon Echo for $205 pretty please with that

    • did you do the 2 for one amazon echo?

      • Just bought the one bigger echo

  • Ordered 5 bulbs and a bridge.
    Was never interested in buying smart bulbs before.
    Thanks OP.

  • 2x echo, 2x bridge, 1x tap switch, 5x e27, 5x b22
    $243 delivered (Cashback pending)

  • Hue is releasing updated bulbs soon so probably explains the drops and Amazon has an event soon so more updated device from them to

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