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[Price Error] 2.5mm Olex Twin & Earth TPS Electrical Cable (AU Made, Was $110) $66.50 @ Bunnings (PowerPass Membership Required)

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Hi all.

Olex 2.5mm 100 Metre Two Core and Earth Flat Electrical Cable, $66.50 per roll at your local Bunnings with PowerPass!! Can't even get 1.5mm TPS twin & earth for that price… LOL

Get on it now my fellow sparkies! They're usually over $100 from electrical wholesalers. I believe this is Australia wide.

And remember DIY = DIE. Please use a licensed electrician.

EDIT: If your local Bunnings is out of stock, I believe you can still order from the Special Orders desk and they should still honour the discounted price of $66.50.

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  • +6

    sshhh….!

    at least let us get some first before they update the price haha

    have taken a bunch of screenshots to take in

    • +1

      Haha, I've just purchased 15 from two different bunnings and will buy more tomorrow! Here's a screenshot for proof of the receipt, you'll most likely need to show them your email and/or provide the "IN" number after they scan your PowerPass, it will then show them the $66.50 price.

      • since when was the price active?

        • I received a Powerpass email this afternoon around 5pm, so most likely today?

      • +1

        Lenovo in the background confirms you're an OzBargainer haha

        • Haha, yep! I purchased it from one of TA’s posts. 😊

          • @VuDo0: Prob as bad as Acer

            • @[Deactivated]: Yeah, it’s not that bad, I also maxed out on the upgrade options as well. Only using for business purposes and it does the job.

  • Hmmmm they might change the price back to normal tomorrow 😔

    • I don't think they will!

  • Price is showing $110 for me as powerpass

    • Haha, I've just purchased 15 from two different bunnings and will buy more tomorrow! Here's a screenshot for proof of the receipt, you'll most likely need to show them your email and/or provide the "IN" number after they scan your PowerPass, it will then show them the $66.50 price.

    • Using the app or regular Bunnings website? The Bunnings trade website is definitely showing that price but yeah the app shows full price - and unfortunately no stock anywhere.

      • You'll need to call your local Bunnings and double check. Some of them should have stock… I'm picking up more first thing tomorrow morning!

  • +67

    "DIY = DIE"? Yeah nah. For some reason in countries like NZ or the UK where you can literally DIY run an entire mains subcircuit as long as a sparky checks over the work, and where you can terminate a cat5 cable yourself without a $20k fine, houses aren't burning down at a rate of knots, and telco exchanges aren't exploding and killing workers daily.

    This country is way over-regulated. And it's nothing to do with safety.

      • +37

        And yet in the UK, US, New Zealand, Canada, and numerous other countries people can DIY their own work - again, many of those countries still require an inspection prior to connection to high voltage which is good and totally reasonable - and houses aren't burning down, people aren't dying, insurance still works. Typical patch protection - its nothing to do with safety.

          • +44

            @FlatulentFrank: The proof is the fact that Australia is the ONLY country where you cannot replace a light switch or terminate an ethernet cable without a qualification or expensive registration, and not one other regulator on earth has said "wow, we have so many deaths due to people changing light switches, we should be like Australia".

            In fact, Australia actually has more injuries due to DIY work, and you know why? Because the standards and regulations are deliberately made difficult to find to protect the trades revenue, whereas in countries like NZ or the USA they're literally available in both comprehensive and fact sheet form, meaning DIY work is significantly more likely to be done safer and to code.

            I'm obviously not going to waste my time trying to change your opinion, you clearly have a vested interest.

          • +6

            @FlatulentFrank: I used to live in the UK. I renovated four properties over there. I could do a lot of my own wiring - and I wasn't a licensed electrician in that country.

          • +11

            @furiousgeorge: Yes, revenue protection. All you're doing is proving my point.

            (Edit) more specifically the 4 year apprenticeship isn't revenue protection. But your attitude certainly is.

              • +3

                @FlatulentFrank: Yup, just about revenue protection from you.

              • +27

                @FlatulentFrank: I'm a qualified electrician although I no longer work as one.
                I currently work in electrical engineering design - mainly in mining and HV power.
                I do electrical commissioning and undertake a lot of site surveys of electrical systems.

                I say DIY as much as you are comfortable doing - most of it is basically a piece of piss.

                The setup we have in Australia is union-inspired over-regulated nonsense and mumbo jumbo that ensures that many sparkies ride a gravy train.

            • +4

              @[Deactivated]: The better educated electricians do not carry the same revenue protection attitude that the "DIY and die" brigade does.

              My electricians are mostly buddies by now and most of them are very honest about the level of difficulty of common jobs.

              Obviously if you're messing with mains boards or complex gang switching, get a pro. Everything else is akin to getting a trauma surgeon to place bandaids.

              Ps. If an electrician tells you that DIY = die I just assume that the electrician is bordering on being a simpleton. I wouldn't want my electricals being completed by someone intellectually questionable. That may cause actual death.

          • +12

            @furiousgeorge: Any tasks that are actually difficult require an engineer, not a tradie.

            • +1

              @bargaino: That is entirely free of any negligence. It all comes down to the sparky that signs it off at the end of the day, regardless if the engineer designed it or not.

              Been many a project I've worked on where the engineer has f'd up royally and would have walked away Scott free had the sparky not picked up on it themselves, costing them many a strike against their name and not to mention the thousands of dollars in costs for repairs.

              As with any safety standards, they're written in blood. As far as any regulation or law goes really, it takes a stupid few to ruin it for everyone and I've seen more shonky jobs than not that always point to unqualified diy-ers. So it's only suitable that they rule out any potential failings.

              The same people wanting to do their own work are no doubt the same people that crack it at others for bending what seems to them as unimportant "rules" that all of a sudden now suits their agenda.

              I'm not disagreeing with the frustrations of those above me, just highlighting the facts. There's too many variables and lack of attention to detail of the average diy-er that I've personally witnessed when helping friends and family that I would have otherwise assumed quite handy on the tools for me to agree that it should be an option for non licensed people.

              • +4

                @db87: Good argument. But having worked on such projects, you'd have to admit that domestic wiring is not rocket science, as evidenced by the successful regulation of DIY in other countries including NZ.

              • +4

                @db87: While I agree with the sentiment on safety standards and their importance, the primary issue is that those standards are not readily available. In NZ I can DIY anything domestically in my own house (cannot do it commercially or even in someone else's house) as long as my changes are minor (e.g moving a GPO, replacing a light switch), or I have the work certified (if I did something major like adding a submain or new circuit) before connecting it to the 240v mains. Yet there is not rampant deaths or property damage there. Why? I attribute this personally to the removal of stigma around DIY work, and the regulator making the safety standards information readily available to allow safe DIY work.

                And as it happens, I've got a run of mains voltage wiring running to a hot water system in my house installed by a licensed sparky that I'm absolutely certain is not AS3000 compliant - mains voltage cabling running exposed through open space without being fixed in place?

            • @bargaino: Engineers are only allowed to commission / fault find afaik. This perhaps can vary state to state. Bit of a joke really.

          • +2

            @furiousgeorge: Calling 240V HV instead of correctly calling it LV is just a label. It has nothing to do with whether you can pick up a screwdriver and change a light switch.

      • +17

        So i can't change a light switch with 3 coloured wires but go ahead and change the brakes on your car no worries 🤔🤔

        • +3

          With thousands of road deaths, it is time we banned DIY driving, and left it to trained chauffeurs who have completed apprenticeships.

          Household wiring is much safer, but perhaps some regulation like requiring passing an online test may have benefits?

        • Shhh, don't give them ideas!

      • +2

        No. It's about protecting an industry.

        I'm a registered cabler, but the cabling regulations here are a disgraceful joke. There is nothing in them that makes it "safer", it's just an industry boosting tradesman prices.

        Why can't I change a power point for a different brand powerpoint when one breaks, but I can do anything I want with the brakes on my car?

        hint: electricians have better unions and lobbyists than mechanics.

    • Interesting! Never knew that about NZ and UK. That means us sparkies make more here than over there?

      • +10

        Well sparkies still do certifying too - can't connect to mains voltage until it's been checked for compliance (totally logical - I wouldn't want to touch the 240v until someone has made damn sure it's safe!) so there is that additional revenue stream.

        I'd say the model there probably doesn't result in sparkies making less, because the only work you can do without getting someone in to inspect is the sort of stuff that generally in Australia people illegally cowboy instead anyway (switch replacements, GPO moves, sort of stuff that the sparky will usually quote a "screw that" price for because it's barely worth the callout).

        • +3

          I think that is a great system. If we are honest, many circuits in Australia are run by first year apprentices with work being roughly checked over. The integrity is checked before connected but I have also seen the ‘switch test’ used where the light comes on, must be good. Plenty of capable and competent people able to strip wires and tighten screws appropriately. Running of circuits in theory requires considerate of run length, required load to be considered and both circuit and main breaker lads to be accounted for. But again, plenty of times that isn’t considered.

          Australia is probably a bit extreme with the protection of work that must be performed by licensed electricians but it is highly dangerous when it goes wrong so I don’t think it is purely about income protection.

          **Said as a previous electrician.

          • +12

            @Gradesbrah: The upshot is mostly around the fact that deregulating the basic stuff that frankly your average sparky doesn't want to do anyway (like replacing a light switch, which is like $20 in parts but $80 in labour plus callout fee!) and making the safety information and standards available means that people who were going to cowboy it anyway (we know it happens, if someone has got a broken light switch they know they can replace for $15 with a switch from Bunnings, or pay $75-$150 to a sparky who'd rather not be wasting their time on one light switch, of course they will) at least have information available about how to do so safely and legally.

          • +8

            @Gradesbrah: Yep. Educate everyone rather than just say don't touch and you'd probably have better results from the (some) DIYers.

            I just want to know why, if they want everything done to certified standards, is it so damn hard to obtain copies of said standards without forking out hundreds or thousands of dollars first. I'm pretty sure safety isn't the concern here. (All industries I mean, not just electrical)

            • +7

              @bamzero: I've experienced that with some of my qualifications. The high price discourages people from keeping up to date with regulations or sharing one copy with lots of colleagues. If safety was the focus the information would be free to download and have easy access.

            • +5

              @bamzero: You're right there - safety isn't the primary concern with jealously guarding the standards docs. That's because in Australia, the standards body sold the exclusive right to print them to a private company (SAI Global) and the difficulty in obtaining them is protecting their revenue stream. The "privatise everything" agenda strikes again!

              • @[Deactivated]: @Kyanar Good point. This is something you would expect in third world countries not Australia.
                When the regulating body puts profits ahead of safety it isn't the best role model for the industry.

              • +1

                @[Deactivated]: Thankfully, that's changing soon
                https://www.standards.org.au/news/an-innovative-future-for-s…

                The revenue stream from SAI isn't as lucrative as you'd think, partly because SAI keep a lot to themselves and partly because it's so easy to obtain a copy of the relevant standard from elsewhere, e.g. your mates in the same trade. Standards Australia managing the distribution themselves should in theory mean lower prices so there's less incentive to get it through uncontrolled channels.

                • @banana365: That's great news! Here's hoping that improved access to standards boosts accountability among trades, and safer and more affordable outcomes. I'd be ecstatic if the regulators saw this as an opportunity to loosen some of the restrictions on the basic works that can be performed in an owner occupied dwelling (such as replacing switches and GPO relocations in dry areas where new cable runs are not required)

    • muffled this is australia plays in the distance

    • +4

      Totally agree. What's even more ridiculous is that NZ has exactly the same wiring regs as us! In the UK, as long as you're not making final connections at the DB or wiring in wet areas, you can legally DIY. Very sensible

    • I'm an electrician but I've never really done domestic work other than my own…

      I agree we've gone overboard here but… One thing I've always wondered is how many more insulation installer deaths there would have been if we were unregulated and numpties had run cables all over the place in ceiling spaces….

      • +1

        The wiring in the houses where the deaths and injuries occurred was not to blame. What was to blame was the training (or lack of it) given to the young tradies doing the work and the general "just get the job done" push from their bosses, e.g. were they trained to check for cables before they started stapling the insulation down, if so, were they under pressure that led to poor work practices.

        I see quite a bit of professionally installed wiring in my role as an SES volunteer doing storm damage repairs. It's obvious where there's been pressure to take shortcuts and sometimes there are some outright dangerous things to be found. A couple of years ago in WA they changed the SOP so that if we have to go into the ceiling space to do storm damage repairs then we have to turn off the power. There had been a number of near misses and one death (of a sparkie's apprentice, not SES) leading up to that change.

        I'd accept regulation far more easily if it actually worked.

      • I think there's a difference between running long cable lengths in ceilings, wiring up new circuits, etc, vs swapping a switch or light fitting.

  • PowerPass seems to be broken, tried to sign up and all emails i tried said they had already been used which is incorrect i tried emails that dont get used for anything.

    • You can signup at the trade register and should be able to get the rolls for $66.50 on the spot! Haha

      • Yeah i was hoping to sign up online tonight. But looks like their signup is broken.

  • Just an FYI, sparky direct do 1.5mm cable for this price. 2.5mm is about $100.

    • fyi: sparkydirect cable is 'electra' brand.. not olex.
      ok.. they both meet standards.. but if about the same price I'd choose olex.

      • Okee dokes. Cheers.

  • bought but dont know how to use and what for?

    • +1

      Skipping rope

  • +5

    And remember DIY = DIE. lol!!

    What nonsense. We must be the only western country where zero DIY fixed wiring is allowed. Even NZ, which has the same wiring regs as us, allows some DIY wiring. DIY if you are confident to do so.

    I'm a nonpracticing qualified electrician and work in electrical project design in mining and HV power BTW.

    This is a great price for quality 2.5 2c+E PVC cable.

    • Agreed. If you know the codes and dangers. Then we should be allowed to DIY our own stuff. Simple stuff such as running your own Ethernet line, Replacing Light Fixtures, Replacing PowerPoints and installing new RCD and MCB are pretty simple and safe as long as your not an idiot.

      • Surely there's no 'rules' or laws preventing you installing cat6?

        • Of course there is. You need to be a registered cabler.

          I'm a registered cabler (did the course years ago for the sole purpose of wiring my own house, as I'd already done structured cabling for a couple of years in NZ - without a regitration of course, and have just paid the registration every year incase I ever need it).

          It's just an industry money spinner.

          • @Blunglefortness: really? can't even install ethernet?

            • @impoze: I worked on a cat5e cable. When I went to terminate with RJ45, I got hit by a bus.

              Being untrained, I didn't know that making a set of LAN cables in the middle of the road can be dangerous.

              Be safe. Call a pro.

          • @Blunglefortness: Okay. The wiring regs state that only equipment/cabling at 50V+ needs the services of a licensed electrician. If what you say is right (and I'm not disputing it), then speaker wires, telephone lines, 12V lighting cables etc need to be installed by a sparkie.

            Wow

            • @R4: CAT5/6 requires a cabling registration (not an electrical trade certificate).

              It's only a short course, but it's just a needless money grab.

              • @Blunglefortness: Oh, okay.

                Agree, just more bullshit.

                • +1

                  @R4: It's the only way to ensure that year 10 drop outs can obtain a job and not be on the streets.

                • @R4: You think that's bad? ACMA was seriously arguing a while ago that WiFi technically connected to the telecommunications network, so access points and things on the other side required a registered cabler too.

              • @Blunglefortness: It doesn't require any qualification if you're not certifying anything.

                It was mandatory to upgrade an open cabling license to a cert 3 in telecomms when the NBN was first being announced to ensure sub contractors (cowboys) had a minimum of understanding of technologies and techniques before being unleashed on the network.

                Where I disagree with this particular cash grab, is that any Joe blow could go and sit a 2 week course and all of a sudden be proficient in basic telecomms but be allowed to basically work on any network.

                It was later dropped and on top of this you have the cluster f*k the nbn is today.

                So saying there's no use for regulation is a bit one sided. There's more to it than just tickets, regs and apparent fund-raising.

                • @db87: It looks like the rules may have changed, as the ACMA website doesn't say anything about DIY cabling that I can find. https://www.acma.gov.au/work-registered-cabler

                  However, I don't think anyone in this thread (certainly not me) is saying that there's no use for regulation. I think standards are important, and a guide to how to use them in a useful way are also important. However, I don't think forcing people to go and do a course on how to connect an MDF to an IDF is very useful when people want to put an extra network port behind their TV.

                  In addition, I got my registration in ~2008/2009. I haven't worked one single day in the cabling industry in that time (although having worked in IT, there have been the odd jobs here and there where I've just fitted off an RJ45 socket. My point though, is that there is no actual mechanism for me to remain current. I literally pay my $90 every 3 years, and don't think much about it outside of that.

                  I think the ACMA have stuffed it up by bundling in telecommunications provider rules with home cabling rules. They're two very separate things, that serve two very separate purposes. If the NBN want to enforce a uni degree for people to install NBN NTD's, then that's up to then, I don't much care. But just because my computer also happens to be able to be connected through a certified router to that same network, they govern how the cables are connected in my own house?

                  I'm not sure what it even does to help. When my own house was built, the electricians ran the power and phone cables through the same hole in the noggins. And I'm in the SES, so I've been in my fair share of roof spaces. Incorrectly wired network cables are way more common than correctly wired ones, when it comes to separation of services.

              • @Blunglefortness: It also requires 80 hours of supervised work under a registered cable, which is the most annoying part - I would begrudge but just go and get the registration to cable my own house if necessary, but I object to also being expected to do probably unpaid work just to wire up CAT6 in my own house. ACMA irritates me.

                • @[Deactivated]: 80hrs for restricted (domestic) - an open license to do commercial needs 360hrs.

  • +3

    You have to live in a country where it’s not regulated to understand why the regulation is so important. Believe me (having spent first 35 years of my life that way). I share the frustration when I pay through my nose for even a small job and some that I have wanted to get done but couldn’t afford- I still can’t thank the visionaries who instituted these controls because of which people in Australia could reap benefits for years to come. I know some of you have some very strong opposing views but I am happy to talk you through over a beer! (by the way I am not a sparky)…. just got an idea…. how about a Friday afternoon beer event for avid ozbargainisers?

    • +2

      We could set up a perimeter fence with 2.5mm cable

    • +3

      how about a Friday afternoon beer event for avid ozbargainisers?

      Only if you draft a constitution, hold elections for board members and establish a steering committee to put in place a code of conduct.

      I wouldn't feel safe attending otherwise.

  • It’s called the “bang test” not switch test.
    Turn it on, if it goes bang then no good

  • So who pays for the cost of recabling if this gets recalled.

  • I’ve previously found there to be not enough white powder in the Bunnings 2.5mm 3 core 240v cables (causing the wires to be loose within the outer jacket). Just beware you don’t buy from a bad batch!

    • not enough white powder […] (causing the wires to be loose within the outer jacket)

      Is this actually a problem?

      I wouldn't think the red core being able to shift slightly within the white overall sheath would be anything to worry about.

  • +2

    Price not being honoured by bunnings. Apparently price error nation wide. System has picked up on it.

  • +1

    Yeah pricing error, was for the 1.5mm. Head office contacted my local this morning. They wouldn't honor it.

  • +7

    The best thing about this post is that none of you will pass the saving on to the customer :)

  • did anyone actually get any cables at this price?

    • quite a few

    • Sure did, bought 52 roles. LOL

      • if anyone is willing to spare some + commission, ill be grateful.

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