Last gen but decent price for the spec and should handle anything you throw at it pretty easily!
Pretty popular deal last time around, maybe even more now with COVID pricing!
CPU: i7-9700
Mem: 16GB DDR4 2666Mhz
GPU: NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2070 Super 8GB
Storage: 256 GB NVMe SSD
Storage: 1 TB 7200rpm HDD
OS: Windows 10 Home 64Bit
WiFi: Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650
KB: Dell KB216
Mouse: Dell MS116
so?
yeh? show us your pc part picker list.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZM483t
It's not a fair comparison as the dell is on sale. The 2070 super can be had for $50 less on sale.
Unlocked 8 core/16 thread CPU 3200mhz ram vs locked 8 core/8 thread CPU 2666mhz ram.
Ventilated case vs poor ventilation.
Upgradeable vs good luck.
Probably would have to include cost of NVME, some sort of WiFi solution (unfortunately can't be a WiFi card on mATX), and Windows if you want to compare them fairly. But I agree with this build.
The original claim was that you could custom build something "much better". Now I'm not saying it's not a good build or anything, but the 3700x loses very slightly to the 9700 in single threaded workloads and (thus) gaming. Everything else is probably the same, except the ram where you've got a bit of a lead. So you've got about the same performance for the same price, not "much better".
Also you haven't included a wifi card, mouse and keyboard. I get that most people probably won't want/need that stuff but it's included and may be useful (or you could even sell it). Similarly it's already built and tested so you won't have to deal with doa parts, you won't have to spend time (and money) collecting all the parts from your 5 different listed vendors, you won't have to spend time building it. If something goes wrong, it's much easier to deal with a single vendor and a single warranty.
Like I'm all for custom building pcs, I think it's great value and a great experience. But it may not be for everyone, especially when there are good deals on pre-builts.
I think most of the hate for pre-builts is because they generally just straight up rip people off, who don't know any better. For eg. I built a similar pc to you and op in aftershockpc and I get quoted $2800, similar prebuilts on scorptec (https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Ready-to-Run-PCs/Gaming-…) are $2800-$3000. Evatech has 9600 + 2060 (much inferior) for $2272. etc. etc. (these were just the first few links when googling "buy gaming computer"
@Aequitas: Agree there are better and costlier prebuilts as there are actually people in OzBargain that are unable to build one due to time or other circumstances - a full copy of Windows 10, testing and warranty have to be factored in. Dell support is also good (having dealt with them in the past for work related XPS and Inspiron laptops).
RMA process is long for part replacement as well if part failure occurs with self builds.
You've also gotta pay for potential shipping at all those retailers… and you've got to build it yourself. And still no OS. Or WiFi. Or NVME.
I think the Dell is a very good price for convenience.
@NuclearWessels: Yep, thats why I don't like rando "wow its cheaper" partpicker lists - they don't really show the true anxillary costs.
Let’s just wait… OP will surely deliver
yo show us Matt!
Come on Matt! Hit us with your alternative.
lol good one
The awkward moment when he realised gaming isnt the only thing you do on a pc.
What a pain alright. lol
The awkward moment when he realised gaming isnt the only thing you do on a pc.
The awkward moment when you reliase some people buy a PC for professional use for their job and also buy a console for easy social gaming in the lounge room.
That awkward moment when you don’t know what you’re talking about
i wish i could neg that guy twice
Comparing raw clock speeds and teraflops isn’t a sound argument for power or performance especially since they’re running on different architectures. It sounds like they will be equivalent to high end PCs but exactly how it compares to PCs is yet to be seen. I’m interested to see benchmarks once they’ve actually launched.
@FireRunner: Also it's launching around the same time as the next gen cpus and gpus. So comparing something 6 months in the future to something released a year ago doesn't make much sense.
Expect to wait over a month for these to arrive. My order from 5th May has been delayed and is now having an ETA of 5th June.
Not a custom build, I purchased it from Dell ebay
Ordered mine on the 7th and received it yesterday. A lot quicker than what I expected. The only problem I found so far is noisy fan.
Did they use an intel stock cooler or a custom one like what's pictured on the marketting?
Photo here: https://www.dell.com/community/Inspiron-Desktops/Inspiron-G5…
As the community suggests, you can fit a Coolermaster TX3 EVO using some M3 screws. CM TX3 Evo is $31 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com.au/Cooler-Master-RR-TX3E-28PK-R1-Univ…
I saw comments about issues with fans and the CPU cooler in the previous deal. Did it come with the large CPU cooler that is shown in the images on the listing?
Ordered mine on the 5th and got it on the 14th.
Just started watching F1 on Netflix and discovered Dell sponsor Mclaren, this might explain delivery times. I hope it doesn't reflect on the PC performance too;-)
Ordered May 27th
Got Update June 1st from Dell/Ebay saying order confirmed and in build
Now showing as "shipped" to the local delivery hub - assuming from factory overseas to Australia.
I'm in the same boat. Just was having a laugh about F1. Hope we get ours quick. I ordered a 1TB WD Black SN750 from amazon US @ $220. Not sure if I'll put it on a x4 PCIe card, or clone the stock and swap. Also, got a 2TB Samsung T7 from the current eBay deal. The SSD was $499 (Bing Lee), but I ordered with something else small and got $50 off. Hoping this will be faster than the MX500 I was intending on adding for Steam games.
@mostlygordon: I'm just going to stick another 1TB SSD in it and maybe another 16GB of RAM for now. Have a few of the T5 Samsungs already so they will come into use for photo editing.
@nafe: Careful on the RAM. I read that some models, even if higher than 2666MHz, will run slower (2133 I think from memory), and slow the already installed RAM. I was planning to wait until it arrives, and try and get the same brand / model. I was wondering if it would take another 2x16GB and take it to 48GB, but can't seem to find an answer. The dell site says it supports 8, 16, 32 and 64GB, but no mention of 48. If it will run 48GB, not sure if this would effect the dual channel mode, I would think if the pairs are in the right slots it should be fine. Hopefully someone can comment…
@mostlygordon: I'm waiting to see how it performs with the 16gb for now. My Macbook runs 16GB and it's fine, so I'm not rushing.
Also will see if prices fall a bit post-Covid. I certainly wont be buying Dell specific ram, it'd probably be cheaper to buy 2x16GB and replace the existing ones lol
@nafe: Mine arrived today. Nice and fast. Upgraded to Windows 10 Pro with an old 7 Ultimate Key I had. Luckily also had an Office 2019 key handy. Did a lot of the setup from my MacBook Pro on the couch via Remote Desktop LOL
One thing for me, creating a Rescue USB failed twice, both before and after patches. No window in the case, not that I care…
@nafe: For the SSD, I was thinking of a PCIe to NVME adapter. Should get much better performance than running SATA.
Getting there spec wise, comes in a similar price to what i was thinking of building (for ~2k):
$750.00 Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT GAMING OC 8G Graphics Card
$495.00 AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core/16 Threads AM4 Processor with Wraith Prism Cooler
$320.00 ASUS Prime X570-P/CSM Motherboard
$250.00 Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB (2 x 16GB)
$169.00 750 Watt Cougar GX-S Series 80+ GOLD Power Supply
$170.00 Samsung 970 EVO SSD 500GB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology (MZ-V7E500BW), Black/Red
Replace the Cougar PSU with a 80+ Gold Corsair unit.
The Dell also includes a WiFi 6 + Bluetooth 5.1 device, MS Windows 10 Home license, and a case.
Good for those looking for a decent pre-built system, given the RTX2070s is currently selling for $1100+.
Ok, good call.
Corsair 750W 80 + Gold Modular Power Supply (RM750) $219
was also thinking Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Windforce, 8GB
Bit hard to justify some dell stuff when you can put something better together (unless it's a notebook).
RTX2070s pricing seems to have dropped a little, and can see cards in-stock now, which is great for those looking to build their own systems.
@xuqi: Some cards are just under $900 now for the Super….
It's a line ball between this and a custom build….
@xuqi: It's still gross seeing them all at $900+ when at the beginning of the year they were going for $650-800 on average.
If someone only wants a PC for gaming and simply won't do anything else on it. Probably is worth it for some people to wait for the new consoles. Which will probably be somewhere between $700-1000, and give 2070super ish function.
So glad I got my 2080 Super for $950 before all this nonsense occurred.
@nafe: Yeah it definitely sucks. I put a list together for a mate, and he held off too long- cost went up by almost $600. Bonkers. He's pretty much going to wait until the consoles drop end of the year, and hope that causes some downward pressure on prices.
@ONEMariachi: I'm torn between waiting, or buying this and writing it off as a deduction for my business this financial year…..
@nafe: Probably just worth doing that, if you have that option tbh. it's a gamble at the moment considering that we are heading towards a pretty serious recession. Price drops are going to be a flip of a coin, entirely dependent on other countries and how well they also recover.
@ONEMariachi: Pulled the trigger. Mate ordered the Crucial 1TB SSD off Amazon which he doesnt need now, so I'll grab that off him for the Dell box too lol. Good little tax deduction for my business too haha.
Have ordered most of the parts, the Corsair 750w 80+ gold PSU are out of stock everywhere almost, and not really worth 220-240$.
Founds one new one for $210 delivered. I was considering a used one for ~$150 from eBay, seller seems ok and 180 day warranty, reckon ok?
Edit: it's the TX750m, discontinued model.
Got a mates MSI GeForce RTX2960S for $490 which is pretty good.
Cheers
You get 10 years warranty on a new Corsair, and power supplies do sometimes fail.
It's an integral part of system so its best to pay extra to ensure stability. The issue with 2nd ha d ebay gear is that you don't know what use its had.
Something like below is great:
https://allneeds.com.au/corsair-rm750-gold-750w-power-supply
Your systems will also work fine with the RM650 so if you find one of those (ETA on most sites seems to be 05/06 for stock on this model) it'll be fine.
@xuqi: That's good advice, not worth cheaping out too much for something like that.
I managed to find a rm750x in stock at saveonit online for about $212 delivered so that's the best in this market.
Not the case?
Didn't include price for a case (allow $150), got an existing R3 refine but may as well get new
Corsair iCUE 220T Tempered Glass RGB Mid Tower ATX Case
Still adds up building, haven been looking at a lot of dell options too.
Windows 10 is like $160
You could buy an OEM key elsewhere for $15 (no, not those dodgy $10 volume licence keys on ebay)
Can get activation keys etc, got a win 7 pro install dvd on this, not really meant to use for new build i guess.
Agree though all that adds to the price and worthwhile.
It's beyond me why BT and wifi isn't built in these days on motherboards etc, most people got dongles already though.
That G5 build looks solid for the price, nice if you can add more ram
Either way was planning on claiming any price drops with 28 degrees shopper protection.
Windows 10 is free, from microsoft.
It actually works fine without a licence, but it does ask you to register, and a couple of not-very-important features (like customising your desktop) are locked.
@ItsMeAgro: The watermark is the only thing that bugs me. Even when you play games the watermark persists.
a $320 x570 mobo seems a bit overkill? What features in particular do you need from an x570? The money could be moved to perhaps a cpu upgrade to the 3800x (or your wallet)
Is this a gaming machine? 16gb ram is enough for most gamers. For example in games I hit 10-12gb on ram usage, with chrome and vscode open, haven't tested but I assume if you're streaming at the same time you may benefit from 32.
I think you're correct, don't need something that good.
A MSI B450M Mortar Titanium AM4-mATX $150-185 plenty
16Gb would be enough too, but with the ability to add another 16 later.
Yes, just some light gaming, streaming, general use maybe CAD.
The rig I'm running is 2012, been fine for remote desktop but could use an upgrade.
Cheers,
I would get a MAX variant motherboard so you have ryzen 3000 support without having to flash it. (although depending where you get it from they may do it for you, it's something you'd have to ask. or you may have a friend who can lend you a cpu).
Keep in mind that 4x8gb will cost more than 2x16gb and that cpu won't benefit from quad channel, so it may be better to just get 32gb now if you think you need it. Unless by 'later' you mean a year or so later, in which case ddr4 ram should drop quite a bit with the release and adoption of ddr5. I'm not familiar with CAD memory usage so can't advise with how much you may need, though it sounds like something that may be memory intensive? especially if used with remote desktop? probably not necessary though if your 2012 rig is doing it fine and probably only has 8?
@Aequitas: Agree on the MAX version. Although… if you can find a non-MAX on clearance for a good price, you could go with that since it's super easy to flash bios on the Mortar. Just need power supply, board and a USB, take 5 mins.
@Aequitas: Cheers for that, current PC with VPN/RDT (i5 2500k, 8GB, HD6950) does the job but getting on a bit, and nice having something decent to work locally too. For reference the work pc is i7 8700 3.2Ghz, 16GB, Quadro P620, so something similar but on the gaming side be good.
2x16GB now would be fine, can't ever imagine needing more. Hopefully can claim price drops in the future (28 Degrees).
2070S is expensive enough don't think I'd go any higher (a mate wants to sell me a near new MSI 2060 Super 8GB for $500).
Also @Kingduytan, agree don't mind building, and this one has lasted me. Good not to cheap out too much.
@G-rig: I see. That 2060S sounds like a deal, if you trust your mate then sure go for it. Ask if he can lower to $450 :D
@Kingduytan: Yep, it's looking like I may grab that, he'll go down to $480, and got the box etc really only 2 months old.
I'm not sure how much these will drop in value in the next year but seems ok considering was looking at a RX 5700 XT for $750.
MSI Geforce RTX 2060 Super Ventus GP 8G OC Graphics Card - $720 - 760 new still.
I don't need the best for some casual games, just 1080/1440p for now, don't have 4k screens etc.
Sound ok?
@G-rig: The GPU 2nd market is crazy at the moment, so $480 is really good value, and from someone you know then it's even better. That card can push 60fps+ on 1440p ultra on almost all current titles so you will be fine for a while. Happy building!
@G-rig: Well ain't that the fun of PC build? The excitement of gathering reviews, parts then assembling yourself and eventually boot up to a black screen :))
@Aequitas: Hi, I ended up getting the MSI B450M Mortar Max AM4 ATX Motherboard and a Lian Li Case.
I thought I'd check compatibility on pcpartspicker and noticed this:
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case has a front panel USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port, but the MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard does not have sufficient USB 3.2 Gen 2 or Gen 1 headers. The case USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port will not be usable.
May need to change the mobo as I was keen on using the USB C connectors on the case. I've sent umart a query about this but thought you guys may know a good board.
Thanks,
Is this a gaming rig or workstation/gaming hybrid? If you lean more toward gaming then probably you could dial down to R5 3600/B450 and push for 2080 Super? Corsair CX ~$100 is better value PSU ranking, it's a proven reliable unit.
Modular PSUs are tidy, this 600w would almost be enough, orig plan was a RX580 or something cheap, reuse case etc.
Guess a hbrid, light 10800/2k gaming, more of an update and tax claim..
Also saw these cheap
https://techfast.com.au/products/amd-ryzen-5-3500x-rtx-2060-…
Well, in that case you can adjust the CPU/Main/PSU as I said. CAD is quite heavy on GPU and RAM, I think your budget is fine for 2080S and still keep the 32GB Ram so all good there. Or keep the 5700 XT and pocket the saving if you think you're not gonna go heavy on game and CAD and can't justify the price different. I'd rather spend the money now, enjoy the top notch performance and don't have to upgrade for a good 4-5y+
The techfast deal… as I made a comment in there, once you added the necessary upgrade, you're better off build your own (it looks like you don't mind DIY).
Mine says code not ready yet :(
Not available until 10AM
Anyone know how many memory slots?4 or 2? Could add 2*8G more？
Just guessing here, but from the description it says supports up to 32gb, so I'm guessing it's single channel 16gb stick, and there's one spare slot.
Nevermind I was wrong, it says dual channel in the tech description so yes there are 4 slots and you can add another 2x8gb
thank you
4 slots when I looked at it yesterday.
I'm ordering more RAM from Amazon (going for 64Gb setup).
How about this one? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-G5-5090-Gaming-Desktop-9th-…
Looking for a new computer, but don't want to spend too much.
Good price, good midrange spec.
Thanks for pointing this out. I'm wondering if this is less overkill for a productivity PC (photo and video editing) than the OP with 2070S?
Much better idea. Photo and video editing still won’t use much of your GPU today, so if you’re not playing modern games, don’t get a 2070 super.
Looks tremendous value on paper. Cheapest 2070 Super build on Techfast is $1929… and less inclusions.
Agreed. In this climate I think this is a decent deal for a prebuilt from a well known manufacturer with proven after-sales support. Of course you could build something cheaper/better yourself if you time the purchases right, but there's clearly a market for prebuilts.
They had a 2070 super + 3500x build for $1518 just over a week ago. Or with a 3700x for 1818 which is a more comparable cpu. The pricing on the techfast site isn't that good, but when the discount codes are posted on here, those are good prices.
Hopefully they see this deal and decide to put something up for us today.
I’m still running a i5 2500k/GTX560ti from around 2011. Well overdue for an upgrade.
they did haha
Can anyone comment on the rough quality settings and FPS you might expect from this system with games such as GTA, F1 and Warzone?
GTA V: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14586/geforce-rtx-2070-super-…
F1 2019?: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14586/geforce-rtx-2070-super-…
Warzone I see 90-120fps at 1440p on high.
1440P @ 75+ FPS, very high quality.
4K @ 40+FPS, medium to high quality.
Oh nice deal, decent spec from a well-known brand that are praised for excellent customer service. I think I put together a build plan with similar spec for a mate recently but landed at 2k3.
This PSU is a bit suss - 460W for a RTX 2070 super. Also looking at the photos, the power supply is not a normal sized one, its tiny!!
It's a Dell proprietary one. So little chance of upgrading down the line either. Along with that, they may be using non-standard connectors, meaning you'll have to upgrade the board as well perhaps (6 pin instead of 24).
Also the cpu fan looks pretty underwhelming (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uI_t7kHg6w)
Dell OEM 80+ gold rating, same PSU unit in the Alienware Aurora & Dell XPS boxes.
There is also this XPS 8930 with 512GB SSD, 2TB HDD and RTX 2060 for $1,799.20:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/XPS-8930-Tower-Desktop-9th-Gen-i…
"Finish important tasks faster: Watch all your advanced applications perform at blazing speed with features including memory up to 16GB DDR4 2666MHz."
This worries me, no expansion to 32GB potentially….
Same price as last time listed here..