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HGST Ultrastar 7200rpm 4TB HDD (HUS724040ALA640 / 0F14688) AU $147.10 + Delivery ($0 with Prime) @ Amazon US via AU

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HGST Ultrastar 7200rpm 4TB HDD (HUS724040ALA640 / 0F14688) AU $147.10 + Delivery ($0 with Prime) @ Amazon US via AUAffiliate
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One of the faster 4TB drives, perfect for DVR recording. At risk of extremely long delivery times due to the current logistics situation and standard warranty issues that comes with overseas import.

The 7200rpm means it'll be louder than standard reds/iron wolfs. HGST has a good drive readability track record if you look at Backblaze's drive data.

The limit is 1 drive sadly.

edit:reports of it being renewed/already used drives both from last ozbargain post https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/536194.

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  • happyhayward on 21/06/2020 - 11:52
    +11

    The product page says that the items are 'renewed'. Sounds like they are refurbished, given that HGST products have not been sold with the brand since 2018? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HGST

    • tsugnev on 21/06/2020 - 12:05
      +15

      Recent Amazon review appears to reinforce this:

      Adam K.
      2.0 out of 5 stars Looked used, SMART stats say otherwise?
      Reviewed in Australia on 25 May 2020
      Verified Purchase
      I purchased this to use as a parity drive for my RAID NAS.
      Before adding to the array I put it through a read, write, read test. The drive returned 3 bad sectors in the first pass alone.
      Shocking for a "New" HGST drive, I sent it back on it's way.
      Would recommend avoiding.

      Post should by edited as such to reflect this

      • exe on 21/06/2020 - 12:23

        I've added a warning, I'll be sending mine back if the smart data reports usage hours.

      • thedean on 21/06/2020 - 12:52
        +4

        The listing I purchased from said they were new, I suspect they were clearing be SMART data because the drive didn't look new.
        Glad someone shared my review!

      • brent3000 on 21/06/2020 - 15:06

        And this is why we shoud always test things first :)

    • hollykryten on 21/06/2020 - 12:23
      +1

      I can't see any where on the page where it says renewed or refurbished. I did a full search.

    • Gnostikos on 23/06/2020 - 12:56

      Sounds like they are refurbished, given that HGST products have not been sold with the brand since 2018? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HGST

      That's correct.

      They're either refurbs or ancient stock that somehow has been sitting around in a warehouse all this time, which I find highly implausible.
      Either way, I wouldn't touch these with a 10-foot pole as warranty claims are going to be impossible to fulfill since HGST no longer exists as an independent manufacturer and I doubt WD will help you in any shape or form.

      The Ultrastar line is still manufactured by Western Digital but they have entirely different model numbers.

      Both HGST and WD-manufactured Ultrastars are great enterprise-grade HDDs (I'm using a mix of both at home in NASs, servers and PCs), but buying a HGST HDD 2 years after HGST ceased to exist as an independent manufacturer is not a smart choice.

      • hollykryten on 28/06/2020 - 09:49

        Hangon. Didn't WD buy out HGST. Therefore support for HGST hard drives still in warranty falls upon WD to provide even if it's an older model. And these hard drives howbeit may be an old model should still have warranty since it's purchased brand new through Amazon.

        • Gnostikos on 28/06/2020 - 14:23

          I see you've never gone through the joys of claiming an RMA with Western Digital.

          Their support has gone down the drain in recent years and they routinely brush off warranty claims for their own WD-branded models over some BS technicalities like claiming the HDD was OEM, let alone HGST stuff that they never manufactured and that legally

          Like I said, Amazon has been selling used/refurbished HDDs as new with impunity for years now. That's to say nothing of their woefully inadequate packaging for HDDs that are shipped intercontinentally (HDD in an antistatic bag in an A4-sized box, with no cushioning).

          Anyone who's serious enough about their data storage would not be going down this avenue with so many red flags (ancient stock, likely refurbished, questionable warranty coverage and Amazon's trademark piss-poor packaging).

  • Lodan on 21/06/2020 - 12:09

    Some feedback from previous OZB Post
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/536194

    Local alternative, Seagate Barracuda 4TB for $159 with free postage
    https://www.umart.com.au/Seagate-Barracuda-4TB-ST4000DM004-D…

  • syousef on 21/06/2020 - 13:50

    Used drives are only good for temp data.

  • AdosHouse on 21/06/2020 - 18:08

    I just bought one.

    Look at the bad reviews that say they are used drives, a few say the sellers, who are third-party sellers, this is from Amazon directly, not fulfilled by Amazon. If it isn't new I will ask for a refund.

  • whirlpool_guy on 22/06/2020 - 12:06

    Plenty of refurbished SAS 4TB drives on eBay AU

    If your NAS supports SAS, they're very good value and shipping is very quick.

  • AdosHouse on 26/06/2020 - 17:03

    Mine will (apparently) arrive Monday, I will post up testing results when I get a chance.

    • hollykryten on 29/06/2020 - 12:25

      Let us know if it arrives as a refurb/used or brand new please.

      • exe on 29/06/2020 - 15:00
        +1

        Mine arrived, came sealed inside anti-static bag even has this sticker saying its new. But smart data says:

        9 Power_On_Hours = 37446 (RAW_VALUE) =(. Guess its going back.

        • Gnostikos on 29/06/2020 - 16:14

          Yep that's BS. A brand-new drive should have a power-on hours count of 0.

          I'm not surprised. Amazon and their 3rd-party resellers have pulling this sh*t for a while now.

        • AdosHouse on 29/06/2020 - 16:33
          +1

          You win, my power on hours is only 29546. LOL.

          • Gnostikos on 29/06/2020 - 16:39

            @AdosHouse: Lesson learned: when you see this many red flags on a HDD deal on Amazon; don't fall for it.

            • AdosHouse on 29/06/2020 - 16:44

              @Gnostikos: What red flags apart from it being cheap?

              The seller was Amazon US, not a third-party seller. I knew it would be a gamble, but I feel pretty secure that I can get a refund.

              • Gnostikos on 29/06/2020 - 16:59

                @AdosHouse: Ancient stock of a hard drive that was discontinued 2 years ago (meaning the chances of these being genuinely unused, new stock are incredibly low), from a now-defunct OEM with questionable warranty coverage; plus the widespread reports you can Google to your heart's content of Amazon themselves (not just 3rd-party resellers) flogging used/refurbished drives as new, that go back several years now.

                Amazon is a no-go for HDDs. Buy them locally; it also ensures you won't received DOA HDDs that have been damaged during transit as Amazon love to screw you over there as well by packaging HDDs like a bacon and egg roll.

        • AdosHouse on 30/06/2020 - 03:15

          Hmmm, they offered me $50 refund to keep it, or return it for full refund.

          Kinda tempted to keep it. 30000 hours isn't that much for a Enterprise HDD, and my surface scan just came up with 0 errors or bad sectors. So $100 for a 4TB enterprise HDD is pretty decent.

          Decisions decisions.

          • Gnostikos on 30/06/2020 - 13:10

            @AdosHouse:

            So $100 for a 4TB enterprise HDD is pretty decent.

            Until it dies and you find out WD won't honour any alleged warranties they claim to provide for HGST stuff because Amazon have lied about every single aspect of these HDDs and the serial number is OEM/shucked/non-Asia Pacific because they fell off the back of a truck somewhere.

            If they lied about the stock condition, then who knows what this drive has actually done and whether the SMART data has been tampered with.

            $50 refund to keep something you paid $147 dollars for? Man, everyday I hate Amazon more and more. I would be demanding a brand-new, equivalent-spec HDD from WD or Seagate; that's what you bloody paid for, why settle for some second-hand junk that's probably come out of a data centre after 5 years of usage?

          • hollykryten on 04/07/2020 - 11:24

            @AdosHouse: 30,000 hours isn't much?. That's 3 years 4 months worth of constant use if going 24/7. That's a heck of a lot for a hard drive even an enterprise HDD.

            I wouldn't rely on that damn thing.

        • hollykryten on 04/07/2020 - 11:13

          New drives don't come with a sticker on the anti static bag saying new.

          So they are actually selling used hard drives under the disguise of brand new. And extremely used at that.

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