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beatthatflight on 15/09/2020 - 16:23 shopping.qantas.com (110 clicks)
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Earn 30 points per $1 when you click through from Qantas Shopping each time you shop.

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Bonus Qantas Points (30 points instead of the usual 10 points per AU$1 spent) will be earned for purchases on the Norton online store in Australia only made through the Online Mall between 12.01am Friday 17 July 2020 (AEST) to 11.59pm Sunday 8 November 2020 (AEST).

Qantas Points will be earned on the price of the goods only and not on any GST, delivery charges or taxes. Qantas Points are not awarded on products & services available on the ‘Free Trials’ page of the website including Norton Complimentary Trials and Norton Complimentary Tools. Eligible products can be found on the ‘Products & Services’ page of Norton website. Qantas Points will not be earned on the purchase of a gift card; where a gift card or voucher is used as a payment method (whether for full or part payment); or where a coupon or discount code is used (unless that coupon or discount code is valid and listed on Qantas Shopping). Qantas Points will not be earned on cancelled, amended or refunded transactions. Individual retailer terms and conditions apply.

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  • flywing on 15/09/2020 - 16:25
    +9

    30 Qantas Points Per Dollar waste at Norton

  • Ijuiceman on 15/09/2020 - 16:27
    +10

    10,000 Points and I still would not use Norton

    • MasterScythe on 15/09/2020 - 17:41

      Really? Their SSL certificates are still fairly highly regarded if you run any kind of ecommerce.

    • MasterScythe on 15/09/2020 - 18:06

      Actually, you have me curious.
      I reverse engineer samples as a hobby to submit to engine databases.

      What is it about the modern norton engine thats put you off so much?

      I mean, they're not my number 1 choice either, but if someone was offering me 'free things', I personally find their latest engine quite thorough and efficient.

      Keen to learn what issues you've had recently.

      • Ijuiceman on 15/09/2020 - 19:11

        Resource Hog, Average detection rate and a heap of bloatware.
        As for the SSL, LetsEncrypt are better and free

        • MasterScythe on 15/09/2020 - 19:47

          Resource Hog, Average detection rate and a heap of bloatware.

          You've had these issues recently?
          OK I'm keen to learn more please.
          What date did you last try the software?

          • What is your current resource usage with the Norton engine idle vs active scanning?

          My testing shows roughly 20MB of ram, and 0.3% CPU (on a hexcore CPU) at idle, and 60MB of RAM and 3% of CPU when actively scanning.
          OK, the 3% is a bit high, but I wouldn't advise an active scan while doing CPU intensive workloads.

          • Which all-in-one backup+AV+firewall+password manager has a smaller footbrint?

          • Which bloatware have you identified is bundled with it?

          • What detection rate do you come up with when testing?

          And so I can try and match your results, are you testing live samples, or patterns in your validation?
          AVLabs independently gave it 100% for many years running.
          More impressively, SE Labs used direct target vectors, and were unable to get a successful penetration.
          PLEASE advise what failed to give you a low average detection rate. please!
          This is important to me, as I submit samples and testing for engines.

          • Which CA's treat LetsEncrypt as a higher authority than Symantec?
          • Does it apply to Extended Validation? Or just Domain Validation?

          That could be a real cost saver to enterprise clients and also a potential security hole if used by organisations such as banks.
          Very keen to learn which CA's authenticate LetsEncrypt certificates for Extended Validation.

  • bigbadboogieman on 15/09/2020 - 16:29

    People still use old school antivirus? All I use is the windows built-in one Windows Defender.. 😋

    • MasterScythe on 15/09/2020 - 18:03

      Yeah, a few of us still do some 'adventurous' things, and Defender isnt quite aggressive enough in the heuristic department.

      For normal users it a-ok.
      but it does lack cloud backup, password keeper and firewall control.

      "Pc folk" will just use other apps for that, but in a world where we try to install less bloat; some people like it integrated into one.

      Different strokes!

  • Headless on 15/09/2020 - 16:40

    I remember my Grandmother got talked into getting this at dick smith maybe 15 years ago, slowed her computer down so much she stopped using it. (until I came along and made it run like new by taking this bloatware off)

    • MasterScythe on 15/09/2020 - 18:00

      Before the engine rewrite?
      Yeah, it used to be the devil reincarnate.
      It was mainly the javascript blocker that did the harm; they forgot their "dynamic interface" had JS elements.

      Thank god the days of slow norton are behind us though.

      'Old norton' basically bought me a car, in terms of income from repairing it.

      • Headless on 16/09/2020 - 09:42

        Yeah, that was it, but basically burned Norton in my eyes, it then got replaced with McAfee and their persistant installations on pc's over the years, but the creator and his antics was a laugh.

        Now I make sure the Windows one is updated and havn't had any problems - apart from forgetting to turn it off when I crack things, and stopping 'diagnostic' information back to Microsoft.

        • MasterScythe on 16/09/2020 - 10:05

          The actual lightest AV with the most effective engine is BitDefender, which is available in both free and paid software.
          Unlike a lot of the AV's, your scan results and file names are protected by GDPR too; unlike Microsoft solutions.

          Trust me, I'm totally sympathetic to hating norton for their past; but it's like hating someone with schizophrenia before they were medicated and not seeing they're fixed now.

          I still don't advocate them; I'd take BD any day, but if you have a relative who's less tech savvy, but wants to do their own computer protection (a strangely common demographic in the 50-70yo market I find…), then the 'all in one' control panel and feature set really is hard to go past, and all the old broken evil has been well and truly purged.

          As I said, they didn't 'fix it'; they started again, and to me that shows dedication to 'make things right'.

          • Headless on 16/09/2020 - 10:12

            @MasterScythe: Thanks for the information, the next time i need an antivirus and all in one software for a non IT savvy person I might look into Nortons again.

  • RogueWolf on 15/09/2020 - 17:14

    Futu eBay Norton premium 5 user account about $38

  • solidussnake on 15/09/2020 - 17:21
    +2

    Nobody pays full price for norton

  • MasterScythe on 15/09/2020 - 17:57
    +1

    Ooo can i do the semi-tldr to shut up the "pc experts" whove probably never worked on virus reverse engineering? Excellent.

    "Windows defender is good enough"
    Yep, if all you do is 'common stuff' certainly is.

    "Why would anyone pay for norton products?"
    Convenience.
    There's not a lot of options out there with such hardened parental control, and noob friendly firewall control.
    Also, their cloud backup is extremely easy for novice people to use.

    "Its no better than windows defender"
    It actually is; if you've played with obfuscating virus code, its actually got a significantly better heuristics engine.
    While its often quite easy to hide a RAT, it took a lot more steps to get past norton and bitdefender.

    "It slows down your PC significantly"
    Back in the day, norton360 kept me in business with the damage it caused.
    Somewhere around 2010 they rewrote the app (engine and all) from scratch, afaik using their corporate symantec scanner as a base (which was always amazing).
    Massive slowdown has not been the case for many years; misinformed people however, are still the case.

    Basically;
    Norton products have been good for a long while now.

    Would I pay for them?
    Nope, as an IT worker, having different programs for different tasks doesnt bother me one bit.
    I also do not think they're the best, but quite good.

    The reason people should pay for a suite like Norton, is if they're the type to want to know their "computer safety" is all in one place.
    Firewall, AV, cloud backup; all in one app.
    You usually have to pay for cloud backups anyway.
    Their heuristic engine is better, in my testing than most (not all) I tried.

    And finally; phone support.

    In my career, ive had to phone microsoft about defender before; i couldnt even GET TO an engineer or virii definition writer, it was pure 'call center staff'. Horrendous.

    Id HATE to be an elderly person trying to get hand holding from MS, AVG, Avast, etc to help me repair virus damage.

    Long story super short?
    Paid services certainly have their place.

    • trotsky on 16/09/2020 - 00:08
      -1

      Ooo can i do the semi-tldr to shut up the "pc experts" whove probably never worked on virus reverse engineering?

      Yeah, because that's really the target market for this product. You come across very poorly and despite your apparent expertise in this area, most people don't find value in this "bargain" and are pointing that out. It's almost like your time to shine finally came and you overdid it with rants about heuristic engines and javascript parsers and proved nothing at all, unless all the people you've ranted at above immediately whipped out their credit cards and bought a copy?

      • MasterScythe on 16/09/2020 - 00:57
        +2

        First of all, sorry if I came off as defending the "price" anywhere, I upvoted the "nobody pays full price" comment, so no I agree, I do not find the bargain either.

        Im just here to be a nerd over malware.

        As for your next point, I agree. That is the target audience.

        Computer users needing above average protection is indeed the target.
        People likely to run into "weird" or modified malware.
        People like the elderly or such who are at risk of having "modified" rat's inserted by scammers or fake popups they 'agree' to.

        The amounts of obfuscated NanoCore RATs out there in call centre scams is ludicrous.

        For example, i was the one who found the old 'newfolder.exe' virus, started as nehatquanglan.exe; so without my definition updates, LOTS of engines miss it (and a few still do; its just not relevant anymore, as XP isnt supported).

        rest assured i ALSO find no bargain in qantas points, so i really dont care about the value either.

        I proved my knowledge and got a chance to wave my giant epenis around, and flex my significant arrogance; it makes me feel important.

        I achieved my goal quite well, but i do appreciate you noticing.

        Last thing I care is if it makes a sale, i just like to discuss virus definitions.

        Im also very interested in peoples experiences, but so far it looks like people are making statements they're unable to backup.

        I was excited for a discussion with people who actually know what they're talking about. Seems like most dont know.

        So, no matter how poorly i come across, they come off as lying or ill informed.

        Better to be hated and educated, than liked but ignorant.

        Also, lol, someone negged my comment without offering any counterpoints.
        Exhibit A, ladies and gentlemen.

        • Headless on 16/09/2020 - 09:45
          +1

          Giggle…epenis - nice!

          I havn't heard that before

        • Mr Random on 16/09/2020 - 10:46
          +1

          I actually found most of your comments here informative. And did not know Norton did a rewrite. Good to know if, like myself, I had been avoiding them due to their old performance issues.
          I guess some people don't like it when others can explain things which may go over their heads.

          • MasterScythe on 16/09/2020 - 11:05
            +1

            @Mr Random: Oh don't get me wrong, I know I come off as hella arrogant and smart-arsed, the second my bullshit meter starts ticking even a little bit, which is why I just own it;
            and there was a lot of 'claims' made which I was pretty confident nobody was going to be able to back up.
            That said, if they WERE able to, i was going to learn something, so either way, win-win.
            I like being proven wrong, so long as you can explain how I'm wrong, because I learn!

            Another huge red flag was the fact that people only mention antivirus; where the features of these 'suites' go a lot further than that now.
            It's the equivalent of people telling you how bad a dedicated offroad 4x4 is, because a yaris will get the groceries just fine.
            Yeah, if you're never going to use the features, then don't get the product with those features! 'Aint rocket science!

            Repeating myself, but still;
            I'm not suggesting Norton is 'Amazing' or 'the one to get', but I find it really silly that people speak with authority or 'educate others' with information that's LITERALLY 15 years out of date.
            News Flash for them, software and computers have advanced a LOT in that time.

            Also, people always completely disregard the Phone Support for novice users, this is actually a huge value.

            For laughs… I wonder if I get one of those old buggy Norton365 installs, if they'd actually make a dent in modern computer processing… actually, I wonder if they even install on Windows10N…. hmm.

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