What Is Your Preferred Type of Car? (Diesel/Petrol/Hybrid/PHEV/EV)

Wondering what everyone's choice for a type of car is out of traditional diesels, petrols, and then hybrids, PHEVs and EVs, for your personal circumstances and preference?

Poll Options

  • 169
    PETROL
  • 57
    DIESEL
  • 70
    HYBRID (i.e. Toyota Hybrids)
  • 19
    PHEV
  • 185
    EV

Comments

  • Big puffy diesel and little hybrid

  • +11 votes

    Diesel 4x4 ute
    Diesel for rural availability.
    4x4 because I drive place that aren’t bitumen.
    Ute because of ohs laws.

  • I'd prefer an EV. Smoother, quieter drive, and smoother effortless launch. I know good petrol and diesel cars are capable of smooth touring like drives, but it's built into the EV. I hate feeling g-forced when driving or being driven, lurching around corners, being pushed into the back of your chair when launching, feeling your guts move around. Like in Initial D, I need the full cup of water to not spill for it to be a comfortable drive. I know EVs are more capable of gluing you to the back of your chair than most cars, but it's not necessary to the experience. You can launch your cars gently if you choose to.

    • feeling your guts move around

      Stop eating so much cake and learn to drive properly…

      • I've noticed even EV buses and coaches are smoother. The diesel ones rattle around and take off like a bumper car. But the EV ones are quiet and move smoothly across the road like a dainty ice skater.

        • Technically a bumper car is an EV, just saying….

        • The rattling will be an aspect of the diesel, but the “take off” will likely be due to a poorly designed/maintained transmission or driver error. I’ve worked with some really good truck drivers and except for our low quality bumpy roads they could initial D a coffee.

          • @mapax: I suppose soon enough self driving cars will ensure everyone gets a really smooth drive. People will want it to be smooth enough to eat a bowl of soup, or lay out a scrabble board or something. It won't be like the scifi movies where self driving cars launch away like rocket ships at full speed onto the hover car highway. People won't put up with that just to save a few seconds. Your hot soup would end up all over your lap.

        • Even in my petrol car, the vibrations from just idling kinda annoy me.

    • I hate feeling g-forced when driving or being driven, lurching around corners, being pushed into the back of your chair when launching, feeling your guts move around.

      This has got nothing to do with petrol vs. electric cars. This is just physics. Doesn't matter whether you're in an electric car, petrol car, or being dragged on a stakeboard.

      • I suppose electric cars having no gears and no need to try and ramp up more power changes peoples behaviour when driving.

      • Tell that to the bus driver that fangs his bus leaving the kerb in front of my old place, some bus drivers could manage to be civilised, but with EVs they don't have to be and it still runs quiet and smooth

      • ICEs usually have higher CoG and almost always have to deal with transmissions, even simplified ones like modern dual clutch or CVTs. Sure EVs usually have something resembling a 'transmission' but they're very much divorced from the clunky ones in even the newest ICE vehicles.

  • Where's the forced induction petrol option?

  • I’d prefer an EV, but they are out of price range for now for me.

    Ideal situation would be a hybrid 4wd capable of towing a caravan and a an EV ute for daily commutes etc with a range of around 150km

    • yeah in 15 years or so from now I'd probably see my self with an EV for the daily commute and a regular petrol one for the weekends

      • In 15 years we’ll probably have electric for both.

        The Rivian R1 electric ute has a claimed 640km range (400miles) and huge tow capacity to be released next year. Not cheap, but shows where things are headed.

        15 years of development on top of that will be great. Also will have 15years to develop a charge network to deal with it.

        • I think in remote Australia, until you can put electricity in a jerrican, the combustion/hybrid engine would stick around for a while.

          • @AncientWisdom: Agree. But rather than outback stations running diesel generators they’ll have solar and battery as well. It wouldn’t surprise me if we get more electric cars with fossil fuel generators for range extender for outback travel - hybrids.

          • @AncientWisdom: We'll soon see Hydrogen Electric Vehicles for this reason, so the petrol will too decline

        • the petrol car for the weekends was more so a V8 for fun, not really for camping like you. That said I do expect in 15-20 years for range to be substantially large on electric cars, as you would typically expect with years of development.

        • I can see myself owning something like a Tesla in that time period, they're not too far off what a standard ICE car can manage (I get almost 2 weeks before filling up my car, so that's less than 520kms a fortnight).

          • @Ultimate Gattai: And if you start thinking daily, electric cars are filled up every night in the garage.

            Additionally an electric car can double as home power. The car will learn your routines and power the home instead of drawing power at peak rate from the grid. It will then recharge during off peak rates and still give you a full tank every day.

            It’s a whole change to the way we generate and distribute electricity.

          • @Ultimate Gattai: A Tesla Model S will do well over 520km real world range. More like 600km.

  • +3 votes

    Red

  • Petrol V8, AMG ideally. Some day…

    • Better be quick. AMG are not making the v8 anymore?

    • Twin turbo… Oh yeaaaahhh

    • I just did exactly that a few weeks ago…midlife crisis 6.2L AMG V8 now trumps 20 years of sensible car purchasing. It's amazing how the leather seats are still in perfect condition after 14 years, and that V8…

      • Very jealous, enjoy it well. Esp in this weather.

      • OoC what does a 14 year old v8 AMG go for in good nick?

        • I was going to get a W212 ('09-'11) E63 model but they all seemed to be in the mid 40s to low 50s and had some sort of hole in the service history, and all I viewed had the old (problematic) engine head bolts so that would need attention. In the end I found a W211 ('06-'09) which I got sub-$30k; I'll need to spend a couple of grand on engine preventative maintenance and I'm replacing most front-end suspension components to tighten up the ride, so I think I'll be into it for about $35k all done. You need to be smart with parts; I've seen quotes locally for 4x the price of OEM imports.

          • @knasty: yeah I know a couple of blokes who like their BMWs and Mercs and they are on a good wicket but all say the same thing, that if you rely on regular mechanics or the dealer networks they are ridiculously expensive to maintain, and the only way around it is to do your research up front, source your own parts and do basic maintenance yourself

      • Isn’t the 6.2L notoriously unreliable? I wouldn’t like to be doing repairs on an AMG V8. From my understanding the 4.0TT V8 is much more reliable.

        • True, and about 40k more to buy. There's mixed views on the reliability; there are known issues which can be resolved but also a view that the vast majority of them are still going without blowing up so after 10 years you would already know if there were major issues. I baked some preventative work into the purchase price to cover it; only time will tell.

        • Only the early first generation ones with head stud and camshaft problems

    • I concur

  • I would like to see V8 Hydrogen ICE manual vehicles (HICEV).

  • 4WD Diesel, preferably Pajero, Land cruiser , Hilux or Triton
    but I am broke :(

  • Ozbargainer: no insurance, something under the bonut thingy, no roof racks, $80k high yield investment vehicle.

    What did I miss?

  • Nuclear…

  • LPG

    • Emits around 10-12% less CO2 than petrol, burns cleaner so there is less carbon buildup over time, and emits far less NOx and other nasties than diesel.

      Range and onboard storage can be a challenge, but the latter is a non-issue in my dual fuel 380 (just switch back to petrol if I do run out of LPG), I don’t do enough km/year for the LPG range to really bother me anyway, and the boot is still roughly the size and shape of a Mazda 3 hatch with additional width, with additional space either side of the LPG cylindrical tank to slot in more stuffs.

      The $/100km is still very hard to beat for the engine performance, longevity, real world active and passive safety, and vehicle interior space refinement and comfort on offer, especially at my purchase price 7 years ago ($8.4k - even cheaper these days!). It has allowed my wife and loved ones many road trips that I otherwise could not afford!

    • Yes I'm glad someone said it, and the other great part about LPG is Australia is self-sufficient in supply to minimise sovereign risk.
      Everyone is worried about fuel supplies in case of major world events and/or conflicts…. Australia has/is shutting down almost all of its refineries and has just days supply in Australia with some reserves paid for in Hawaii they still have to get across to Australia.

      Problem is LPG network is in decline due to the taxis not using it anymore and it is at risk. Plus a lack of factory installed choices without Ford / Holden / Mitsub factories here making dedicated LPG. Read this https://www.elgas.com.au/blog/688-the-forgotten-fuel-autogas...

      We should be trying to revive it as a nation as an intermediate fuel whilst electric matures together with natural gas buses and trucks.

  • I'd prefer a Diesel Range Rover. What i can afford on the other hand is something a lot less flash….

  • All of the above.

  • +3 votes

    Matchbox over Hotwheels

  • I would stick to petrol cars. Electric and hybrids batteries are expensive to replace and the car price premium one have to pay does not justify it.

    • You dont have to replace the batteries that often, you would probably change your car before the battery needs to be changed. I own a hybrid which cost me about $3k more than the petrol model. My petrol consumption has almost halved after switching to a hybrid. That savings combined with the $100 I get off my rego every year (VIC) and the ride comfort and silence of EV mode makes this a no brainer for me.

      • 10 year old EV resale value is surely poor given the battery degradation

        • only cars with non-cooled batteries suffer from degredation and therefore depreciation. The cooled batteries (which is soon to be all of them, and it already the vast majority), degrade very slowly. One stufy on Teslas shows they degrade over an 8 year period a total of 8%. So a 10 year old one still has 90% of its capacity and therefore range.

          The good news is if there's heavy depreciation, get a second hand one and you've saved much of the inital price. The second hand market always has a way of working itself out