Pretty good deal. Window Kit Included.
Considering the cheapest one in The Good Guys is $376. Enjoy!
Portable Air Conditioner $249 at Sam's Warehouse
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6 x per year does not equal a necessity living in melbourne
not sure the money spent will equate as a saving on your power bill.
Agreed!
There won't be an Energy label on this thing…
and - if there were - you wouldn't but this IMO.Vote with your $$$: Insist on "Green" products!
It's like giant-screen Plasma (vs LCD) TV's…
just another product being "dumped" that ends up
costing you heaps to operate.Buy SMART, not (apparently, but falsely) "cheap"
You guys ever hear of Global Warming?!? :-/
If not, consider Darwin's (coming) Xmas Cyclone,
and lots more unnecessary (related) storm &
weather changes…"Buy Smart, (help) Save the Planet"
Let's see some Deals on huge pieces of strong, long-lasting shade-cloth,
for a change… a well-positioned bit of shade-cloth (keeping sun Off
your home) can cut you HEAPS in electricity cost EVERY YEAR.That's a Deal, even if you pay list price for the shade-cloth & intall.
Not recommended, at least, at the moment, in Darwin… :-(
Post Fukushima, only Germany seems to be well-positioned to say No to nukes
That's because their gov't REQUIRES "super (insolating) windows" etc.
to save energy… So, even in a place with COLD, winters, Germany wins
the Energy race IMO.There are other examples of Smart designing countries around the world,
eg, Denmark (mentioned in Shai Agassi's TED talk, on Electric vehicles)…my 2.2 cents only.
If you want to spent the children's uni fund Electricity, you act alone!
Post Fukushima, only Germany seems to be well-positioned to say No to nukes
I thought their plan is not to compensate for the premature decomissioning of existing nuke plants with more "super isolating" windows and the like, but by building new coal power plants, which kinda undermines the stereotypical image of the smart, rational, environmentally-conscious German.
@IVI,
Whoa, lay off the egg nog bro! ;)
Very true. Rather than let an airconditioner run all night, I use my trusty convair evap cooler to keep my room cool. =) And it uses much less electricity too. But this airconditioner is vital for cooling during the day.
Yeah, I agree. Evap coolers are a lot cheaper, but I find refrigerated to be a lot more effective, and if you just set the thermostat, it goes on and off throughout the night, not using a great deal of electricity.
You must have a different idea of what a 'great deal of electricity' means! Evap coolers are efficient & effective in the right location. Refrigeration consumes a lot of electricity, and these 'cheap' low energy star AC units can be expensive to run.
Refrigeration consumes a lot of electricity
A cheapy like this outputs (allegedly) 2.44kW (2440W) of cooling, and is rated at 1.5HP - that means it consumes 1117W. At 25c/kWh that means that it uses 28c per hour to run.
If you set the thermostat sensibly and the room was well insulated, let's say it runs on a 50% duty cycle on the thermostat. Over 10 hours night it runs 5 hrs, so that is $1.40 per night. If you used it 1/2 the time over 3 months of summer, that means about 45 nights or $62.83 per year.
The consumer needs to decide - is that worth it? It's a lot less that many people spend on buying a espresso coffee each morning.
@llama
You pay 25c/kWh? I pay 17.5 cents. It's probably time you looked at another electricity retailer. :P
Evap cooling (passing airflow through damp medium) only works in low humidity. Useless up here in Brissie or other humid areas, as it just makes humidity & hence perceived temperature far worse.
Too true. Evap cooling is next to useless IMO.
In Sydney right now it is between 80-90% humidity (depending on the suburb). So an evaporative cooler is absolutely useless right now - all it would do is increase the humidity, and thus make it feel hotter!
Yes it works well for me since I am in Melbourne.
I honestly haven't seen a good consumer evap cooler in 30+ years!!!
The little modern ones are complete shite…but those old brown or beige boxes on wheels our grannies all had were freakin' powerhouses! :)
@Stewballs. I have used both well made australian and chinese crap evaporative coolers. Over the years I have gotten rid of the chinese crap, which are just a glorified fan inside a plastic box. I do still have one of them brown things too, a bonaire mark 10 i think—which I don't use any more it was too loud and had too much airflow even on the lowest setting. However I found the australian made convair evaporative coolers, especially their millenia range out perform any portable evaporative cooler being sold at the moment. It keeps me cool, as well as my cash pockets cool too. =) And it also lets me sleep with my windows open, not closed like when you are using refrigerated airconditioners.
I've had a few of these cheap portable aircons. they are nothing but noisy rubbish!
I learnt the hard way…..You are much better off spending a few extra $$ and getting a decent brand with much better quality. Keep in mind you have a motor and compressor INSIDE your house. We got a dimplex and would recommend it. very guiet!
Something like this…
http://www.thegoodguys.com.au/robina/Dimplex_3.5KW_Cooling_P…
From memory they had these for about $450 during last years summer.Portable aircons will never be as good as a wall aircon. Remember, 100% of the air is coming from inside the house. 50% in being put back into the house as cold and 50% goes out the house as hot air. So 50% on the air inside of the house needs to be replaced. which is going to come through your ceiling, windows, exhaust fans etc as HOT air from outside….
I learnt to put foil over my exhaust fans to reduce the hot air getting sucked into the house.
yep!
these portable units are junk folks!
they heat up the room they are trying to cool with their compressor, are noisy, and are very expensive to run for the little cooling effect they give you. dont do it.if you really need a 'non permanent' air con solution (because you are renting or something), there's MUCH BETTER options out there.
Can you elaborate on what are better options?
I can.
We had a sliding door with a security fly screen in a place we rented and no air con. I purchased a window mountable air con from HN for $280ish and placed it outside the sliding door. I then lined the fly screen door with a few of those silver car windshield heat reflectors leaving only a small hole for the air cons cold air to get through.worked a treat.I recently had to consider this very problem…. renting but desperately wanting air con (which the owner didnt want to put in or even go halves in).
Considering some of these 'portable' room air conditioners are selling for around $500 or more, I was seriously considering buying one.
It's only after doing a little online research that they in fact a complete waste of money.
I found this thread at Whirlpool very educational: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1331479
Ended up buying one of those Nationwide Electrical Window Air Conditioners… $750 delivered. It's a REAL air conditioner, works in 40 degree days and cools room to 20, doesnt require permanent mounting, can move from rental to rental, and is quiet enough to have in a bedroom if you wanted (although you'd freeze!).
Yeah it's not $250, but what's the point in spending $250-500 on crap that doesnt work and costs 3 times more to run, when for $750 you get something that works the way its expected to.
Get a real air con mate…. window mounted, noise and heat outside, cold and quiet inside.
Have to agree ,spend a few more $$ and get somthing decent ,i purchased a nobo cool off ebay a few years back for around the 300 mark and have never regretted it , i had a cheap sunair one before that that cost a fortune to run and did ver little in keeping a small bedroom cool..
its pretty useless, as the back of this portable aircon generate so much heat, it cancel out the cold it puts out. And im talking about even with proper hose out through the window
I want one of the portable air conditioners they used in their tents in the movie Congo :D
Unreal. The portable AC units in Congo were battery powered though and could be carried in one arm :D
The portable AC rear coils are cooled by passing water over them. Most of this heat & water passes out the tube to the window vent. However, my experience is that this raises the humidity and heat in the room, which the AC then has to try to get rid of. (I wrapped the vent hose in aluminum foil to decrease heat loss within the room.) When I turn the AC off, there is an unacceptable level of humidity. As the main reason for AC in humid climates is to remove humidity rather than just lower temp, this defeats the purpose & means I keep the AC on longer.
Having the hot coil & compressor outside makes sense in reducing heating, running costs, & noise within the room.There will always be a place for this sort of AC unit, and whether it is a cheapie or a brand name is a separate argument altogether. My old Dimplex is going on 20yrs old now, still going like a champion & it was my mainstay for many years as a tenant. It still lives in one of my spare rooms for guests in summer! It's never gonna turn any room into a freezer, but it sure as hell takes the humid/hot edge off the living/sleeping area in a room & makes it not just bearable, but actually comfortable. You've also gotta use your head when it comes to positioning & ducting where possible! :)
Those offering so-called "better" solutions might want to keep sight of the fact that not everyone lives under the same strata or building covenant guidelines as you…what is accessible to you may not be to others. I know plenty of buildings where you cannot have a window mounted AC due to strata regs, and a few new gated communities where you cannot have window ACs due to local community building covenants…therefore if you don't have a split system then it's either a fan, evap or portable only if you're a tenant!
I have splits & put them in my investment properties too, I find that the expense pays off in terms of slightly higher rents & longer sustainable tenancies. However, not all landlords see the benefits of this, and they will not come to the party on allowing any sort of tenant modification to their property for window AC as you still need to secure the window properly and bracket the AC unit.
These things definitely have their place…I've said it before & I'll say it again, horses for courses! :)
We have "gated communities" in Australia? News to me.
Yep, we do…you need to get out more brah! ;)
Still, the best A/C units are where the entire unit is placed outside, not a split system where only part of it is outside.
Still, the best A/C units are where the entire unit is placed outside
Yeah, chuck them out on the back lawn…the backyard needs cooling too. Lol, sorry, couldn't resist! ;)
Efficient (but uglier) DUAL HOSE portables rate highly on Amazon; and are relatively inexpensive. External air is drawn in through the additional hose, with superheated air vented through the original hose. Desirably both hoses should be insulated.
CHOICE should test portables in a 43C [shade] environment with varying levels of humidity. (All too common in Melbourne now with global warming; and hotter nights). Perhaps run the portable to reach a minimum temperature and log this temperature, and humidity, reached together with the time taken and energy consumed to reach this minimum.
A comparison with rated (for area, insulation & windows etc) air conditioners eg fixed, split etc could be done measuring the time, and energy, to reach the portable minimum.
CHOICE TESTING at cooling from 27/32C is woeful. My open plan townhouse doesn't exceed 32C, even on the upper level; but with closing off the lower bedroom (cooler cave) my aged portable only operates at about half the rated cooling capacity - which is consistent with DeLonghi figures, comparing effective with rated cooling figures. However, these are still based on a totally unrealistic 32C.
bought similar one from Bunnings for under $400. it sounds like a jet taking off, I laughed at myself when I turned it off. but strangely i could sleep with it.
If you've ever stayed in a cheap motel in the USA you'll know what a noisy A/C sounds like and how hard it is to sleep. One place I stayed at had the whole unit in a closet in the bedroom - I mean what kind of place puts the thing inside - it's meant to go on the outside.
for $249 i would not complain, on a night like tonight in melb would be great.