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BeyerDynamic Amiron Wireless Headphones $699 + Delivery ($0 C&C) @ Umart

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Best wireless headphone under $1000. Deal starts since long weekend and ends in 4 days. Hurry up.

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  • I bet the Yamaha is better value…

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    I have not had a head ear phones for years.

  • wireless and hifi lol

  • Best wireless headphone under $1000

    Is it?

    • Is it?

      Maybe?

      For Hi-Fi headphones for music listening, it could be (but other Sennheiser et al might have things to say about that claim).

      If you want a general purpose pair of wireless headphones with very useful things like noise cancelling, a micrphone, and good battery life, probably not.

    • That’s a bit like saying yellow is the best colour in the rainbow…

      Everyone has a sound signature they prefer and even than same person might prefer a different headphone for another genre.

      The only quantifiable ‘best’ is technical sheet specs, which everyone knows don’t really translate to ‘liking’ a headphone.

      Technically good is usually again only for flat response monitoring headphones which is only good because they sound like the source intended it to. Doesn’t mean they will sound ‘good’ to a person.

      Moral of the story is try it yourself. There isn’t a ‘best under $Xx’ or ‘best’ headphones. People like Laing shit up.

      • The only quantifiable ‘best’ is technical sheet specs, which everyone knows don’t really translate to ‘liking’ a headphone.

        no! With reproduction, transparency is the goal. You want to hear source, not equipment. “Coffee, not coffee maker.”

        Different ear shapes complicate things but in general Harman target curve is defacto standard.

        No one can tell you which music to like, but science (maths, physics and engineering) can definitely tell you which equipment reproduces it most accurately.

        As ASR reviews show, price isn’t reliable indicator of accuracy (or quality). Buyer confusion or ignorance is ripe for exploitation.

        • The harman curve isn't about transparency. It's a curve they derived based on what people liked, essentially a signature that would work well for the general public

          I do praise the k371 though. I've been going for that instead of the T1 when I listen nowadays

          • @krisspy:

            The harman curve isn't about transparency. It's a curve they derived based on what people liked, essentially a signature that would work well for the general public

            It's not about what people liked - its about what was deemed sufficiently close to source, by chosen listeners. Since ear structure distorts sound and each ear is different and we cannot place a microphone into a living head, this is about close to practical "transparent" as possible. Subsequently, listeners can alter sound to what they like using DSP or equalizer.

            • @AlexF:

              It's not about what people liked - its about what was deemed sufficiently close to source, by chosen listeners

              On the contrary, the Harman Curve was developed to see what type of sound most listeners liked through a pair of headphones. It's a specific target for the frequency response most listeners prefer. Nothing about it being deemed sufficiently close to the source.

              The entire idea behind it is so there was some better standard to headphone response, a headphone designer could just compare their headphones to the Harman Curve, instead of doing extensive testing with multiple listeners.

              • @Haulien:

                On the contrary, the Harman Curve was developed to see what type of sound most listeners liked through a pair of headphones. It's a specific target for the frequency response most listeners prefer. Nothing about it being deemed sufficiently close to the source.

                Relationship between Perception and Measurement of Headphone Sound Quality by Sean Olive, Harman employee who developed Harman Curve: "The results provide evidence that trained listeners preferred the headphones perceived to have the most neutral, spectral balance. The acoustical measurements of the headphone generally confirmed and predicted which headphones listeners preferred."

                I don't have access to paid AES article, but, Reddit: "The Harman Target is basically the same sound that the artist and engineers heard when creating the music that we hear." This is the very essence of "transparency", since only these two entities know their source material and are qualified to know how it should sound at reproduction.

        • While I'm at it, highly accurate equipment doesn't always equal an enjoyable listening experience. Take the Topping A90 thats so highly recommended by Amirm. Sure, there's no distortion, SINAD is great, etc. But it sounds bland and flat. It's not an enjoyable experience. You shouldn't need a DSP to fix that.

          • @Haulien:

            You shouldn't need a DSP to fix that.

            You'd need different artist or recording to fix that. Transparency faithfully reproduces source material - it's up to listener to (dis)like it, or, alter it using DSP or equalizer.

  • Thats a really good price

  • But…Airpods Max… Something something..so expensive…? Sony something… Bose….

    Good deal OP

    • Extravagant purchases may be valuable, but, greatest challenge is to create value at reasonable price. Bentley vs Toyota.

  • That's a lot of money to ask the question :
    Am I Ron ?

  • Would these honestly be THAT much better than Sony XM3/4?

    I originally bought the 4 (brand new different deal), sold for cost price as I got a good deal off ozbargain.

    Then bought the refurb XM3 for $175… Slightly less with coupons gift cards etc.

    • I doubt it. There is a very big law of diminishing returns in HiFi. And given how good the Sony's are, I would expect that they would be the better choice for all but those who have lots of money to spare or are obsessed with the last inch of sound quality.

    • +4 votes

      The sound is in a completely different class tbh. None of the muddy midtones and muted treble of the Sony/Bose popular options.

      Despite that, I didn’t find that they were a decent substitute for my Sonys. They are just too big and bulky to work as a commuter headphone, and the lack of anc matters for that use case. Having something pretty small that just folds up even smaller to slip into your bag is so much better than having to carry around some huge shell case.

      I ended up just pairing my elegias/T1s with a fiio BTR5 for like $150. That way I can have ‘portables’ at work or around the home if I really want to prioritise sound quality. Couldn’t justify the (then) $1100 on something so niche.

      If they are just for the office and you have some kind of crazy aversion to cables, maybe at this price it’s a good buy.

    • The sony's are a goo all-rounder.
      Way too much bass before fiddling with the eq (I'm borderline basshead and I still knocked the bass back).
      If you like a flat even production, these would sound better to your ears. If you want a v shaped fun can, stick with the Sony's.
      As a Ozb bargain hunter, enjoy the money you didn't spend.

    • If you like the sound of the xm4's you may not like the "flat" sound these will have in comparison. It's like stripping the sugar and cream from your coffee

  • I bought these (almost regrettably) last year for the same price and in short: Great Sound, good battery. Lacking when it comes to other features. Not worth the price unless you only care for sound quality in which a change in earpads is recommended (only reason I didn't return/sell). Good only for home use if you don't like wires or DAC/amp setup, not good to use outside of home setting.

    Here are some of my experiences/thoughts for those interested:

    • For optimal sound quality imo, a change of earpads are required. Biggest issue is the lack of clamping force on your head resulting in losing a good chunk of bass, the missing bass can be heard if you press the earcups closer to your ears. Also the headphones are very likely to slip off your noggin if you start headbanging. Stock pads aren't thick enough to make up for the lack of clamp from the headband and I have a pretty big head. For something that costs so much this issue should not have been overlooked. Other side effects of the lack of clamp is sound leakage is bad but funnily enough the soundstage is probably the widest I've heard for a pair of closed back wireless headphones.

    • If you do get these cans I strongly recommend changing to a thicc set of Beyer compatible memory foam earpads for a good seal to fix sound and bass leakage. Even then there's no noise cancelling.

    • Even without the change in pads sound quality is really great for wireless, for me they are easily better than the XM4's and QC II's and 700 of which I compared them with (unless you're a basshead, then aforementioned issue will 100% put you off). They make the Sony and Boses sound lacking overall (except for bass quantity) and with a good earpad change they sound better in all aspects to my ears. They obviously sound the best when connected by wire. There's a automatic personalised EQ but it makes not much difference imo. Haven't tried the Airpods Max so can't compare.

    • Not very portable. Out of the box they'll likely fall off your head at somepoint if you move any faster than walking speed. With thick pads you look start to look like E.T.