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Lol no one wants a series s. The x is where it's at.
No 4k is what it does and extra 250 GB. Plus a disk drive for cheap physical games.
I know all that. Please answer me, if there is/will be games which run slow on Series S, but play well on Series X?
@Cupa Bundy Drinker: My point is because it is a console market, you cannot sell games which are not playable. So essentially Series X just supports a better resolution (and, of course, BluRay drive – does anyone use it?)
@theknight27: Microsoft is committed to forward compatibility because they no longer care about hardware sales, gamepass is their new platform now, it has a pretty high transfer to purchase rate on top of the subscription money they're getting.
@theknight27: You do know doom external is running on a switch. I think the series s will be capable for the entire gen. It's just more work for developers to make it work.
Microsoft will not allow a game that is not supported by both series s and x.
@Cupa Bundy Drinker: True, I use a series s and have no issues. Very fast and still impressive
@Cupa Bundy Drinker: Games generally do run inferior on Series S and there is ONE MORE key difference:
Series S runs XBox One/S code path via backward compatibility. That means for older games where XBox One couldn't hit 1080p, with Series S, you are stuck at that resolution.
If all you care about is GamePass (which is the biggest selling point) and you are fine with XBox One (instead of One X) code path for back compat. games. Then, Series S could be for you. The question is that given its GPU cannot really match One X, does it really feel next gen? We are seeing most games elect not to offer ray tracing on Series S and a small number which do do, we are looking at 720p on those ray tracing effect part.
Microsoft already broke the promise Series S is a next gen 2K/60fps console solution. Even if you assumed Series S games will do 1080p dynamic, 512GB SSD likely means you need to buy the external memory add-on. Also, developers aren't exactly happy with Series S (as they need to spend more time optimising for an inferior console).
@Cupa Bundy Drinker: A rather informative video from Linus that may help a little.
@tisRmac: Thanks mate. It is very convincing review. Probably I'll wait for X.
@Cupa Bundy Drinker: yes
Proper current gen
Proper current gen
Just gotta wait for the "proper next-gen" games to be released and not rehashed, upgraded last-gen games…
But you can get an S now but the x will be in stock when, July, September, next year?
Speak for yourself, for a casual gamer or parents on a budget it's a compact powerful next gen console, and with xbox game pass it's solid.
Until your child want a brand new game not available on gamepass you have to pay $40 more for the game digitally. Not to mention having less storage.
At some point the series x actually turns out cheaper.
I have both, the Series S is good for game pass and emulation. No ragrets with the series S purchase.
@eggaz: Ragrets. Lol. Forgot that meme
@eggaz: Me too. I have the Series X in the lounge and the Series S in the spare room.
I don't have a 4K TV in either room and really don't notice any difference in terms of graphics or gameplay.
I do think that the Series S would be a better deal if the price was dropped to $400.
$500 is a bit too close to the $750 for the Series X.
You can say no to childrens wants. Then if you had the XSS or XSX the problem is the same.
Haha, hows does the XSX end up being cheaper? No one is forced to buy extra storage, and the XSX will end up with the same problem if you play plenty of games.
If you are on a budget, the best decision is to get something with a disc drive so you can buy used games.
The Xbox Store has different sales every week. It isn't hard to pick up cheap games digitally.
@sallan75: They don't discount new titles, but if you have a disc drive, you can buy the latest titles second hand and then sell them again. So if a new game sells for $80, used one might go for $60, and if you finish it fast, you can sell it again for $60, so you can play games for free.
1000% I'm a casual gamer and this console is more than sufficient. Really recommend
i want a series s, but not this one. it needs larger native hdd and better soc for native 1440p ray tracing which this one falls behind.
If it had a disc drive I’d buy one.
As someone who owns an X since day one and has a 4K tele to go with it, whenever I do find the time to game, I honestly think I should have got the S and saved 250.
If for no other reason, I could duct tape it to the back of my TV and have no cables visible other than the two power cables coming out. Elegant AF.
You can sell a used X for above RRP btw, on facebook/gumtree. I think you could sell it for $900, easy.
It crossed my mind for a minute, to flip it and get my 750 back, and buy this instead, but I was like ehhhhhhhhhhh, while the S is probably more than fine for me, I don't desperately need a couple hundred bucks for all that work to downgrade either. Couldn't in good conscience rip someone off, if I did sell it I'd be stoked on getting the 750 back. I mean, it's obviously still in warranty and whatnot so I wouldn't feel bad about that, but a penny more and I'd be a hypocrite.
@TheDukeOfNukem: How is it ripping someone off to sell them something they want to buy for a price they are willing to pay. You bought it to use, you used it, it’s six months later and you’re sick of it and want to buy something else instead, and the price they are going for is more than you paid for it. It’s not scalping, it’s just selling. You could sell it, buy the S, and have $500+ left over to buy Gamepass for years and buy extra digital games.
@AustriaBargain: You're not wrong, it's just not something I'd personally do I guess. You're 100% not wrong though.
tbh I'd probably rather find someone willing to swap a PS5 for it and then buy the Series S, I'm Xbox all the way this gen, but the missus loves her Ratchet and Clank and those bastards releasing a new one of them in a couple months done (profanity) me waiting on PS5 to get cheaper.
@TheDukeOfNukem: I have the PS5 too and the new Ratchet and Clank is what I'm hanging out for too.
@AustriaBargain: If they end up dropping a PS4 version a while after, after I'll have bought a PS5 for it, I'll be pissed.
They said Resogun couldn't possibly run on PS3 when it was a PS4 launch game…then they got it on PS3 and (profanity) Vita. Since then, you can't believe anything these people say. Money talks. Put Ratchet on PS4, you cowards.
Sell the x get the s plus expansion ssd and your set.
Expanded storage costs $350 for 1 TB.
Really good price for what is it though.
I got my first 1TB Expansion for $150 with Telstra points. I then got my son's 1Tb Expansion for $250 when there was an Ebay sale recently linked here on OZB. There are definitely options to buy cheaper if you are on the look out.
Good thing is you can use external HDD to hold your games and transfer over the X|S games you want to play, the console can use like 10TB or more of external storage.
Is there a good upcoming exclusive that makes this worth for?
You can install retroarch without much hassle, plenty of youtube tutorials.
@DisabledUser139667: Second this. I've had it since last year, or early this year, I forget. And it's my favorite next gen thing tbh. Simpsons, Tony Hawk, and Spidey in 4K, mwah.
The next elder scrolls/skyrim game is now made by a Ms first party studio.
REally? Any idea on a release?
Years from now prolly.
It won't likely be exclusive. Maybe earlier release… But just as likely free in GP too.
I wouldn’t bank on that. Microsoft 100% owns Elder Scrolls and the studio that makes them. The next “skyrim” will be a system seller outside of Japan.
@AustriaBargain: I know they do.
But they also enjoy making money. They won't allow one of the biggest selling games of all times sequel to get less sales.
No way in hell it's never out on PS5. I do expect benefits on Xbox, least of all free on GP though.
@DisabledUser139667: Will we see Final Fantasy 7 remake, one of Sony's main system sellers, on the xbox?
@AustriaBargain: What's that got to do with this?
Elder Scrolls won't be Xbox Exclusive. I'll bet my life on it.
@DisabledUser139667: I’ll take that bet. And if it does come out on PS then I’ll owe you a Coke.
Can you use discounted ebay gifcards at the same time as this promo code…?
Yes, up to 7 gift cards + a promo code.
Thanks - easiest way to get disc gift cards at the moment?
Shopback Swap Gift card
@Cupa Bundy Drinker: Hadn't heard of this before! Whats the go? Cant see anything on shopbacks site….
@JuryWheel: You can buy them via Shopback App, 5% cashback. The GC is Celebrabration Swap Gift Card – you can swap it online on different retailers gift cards, including ebay.
I wouldn't buy a digital only console, but game pass combined with the emulation capabilities make this a pretty great option. If you really care about graphical fidelity it might be a different story though.
Gamepass alone makes it worth it.
Yes, good deal for a 2nd xbox. Can share your games pass between the two by signing into your account on the S and making it your primary xbox. Then you just play on your X under your profile and your guest/family play on the S under their own profiles and you can multiplayer together any gamepass titles using the single subscription that covers online play+games.
Try to specify in comments u want it posted via auspost… if not u will end up with fastway/aramex and wont arrive for almost a month
I am a gamer nerd and xbox naming conventions confuse me. I'm surprised more people don't complain about it but maybe I'm dumbo.
The amount you “save” by buying a Series S will be overshadowed by being forced to pay RRP on digital titles.
Unless you plan to thrive on Gamepass alone.
That's all my series S is lol.
And maybe? Sometimes sale comes on and it's as cheap as local after a year.
You don't have to pay RRP on digital titles. There's sales everyday and the titles on sale change frequently. Nearly my entire library is digital and i often pay similar or lower prices to physical games.
Even RRP at launch you can save a few bucks buying from the US store, or buying digital codes online for other markets which are pretty easy to add to your account. Although it's usually easier go wait for sales as new gamesgo on sale pretty quickly.
I won't buy physical as a digital copy can be used on two consoles at once meaning both my kids can play together for the cost of one game on sale.
I have a Series X. They each have a Series S and they love it. I only got the X for the extra power. The bluray drive hasn't been used once in my console and likely never will be.
Unless you plan to thrive on Gamepass alone.
At this rate you probably can, but you can buy digital titles from other countries for much cheaper so you're not locked on RRP.
I am still surprised why they didnt let this model have 4k, I can understand its not powerful enough for 8k, but its hard to not want 4k on a console you buy these days, especially since i would gather a lot of people who are gamers / willing to buy the new gen consoles will probably already have 4k tvs.
60fps is way more important then 4k IMO. Besides, it upscales to 4k AND has HDR.
Maybe i havent tested the difference from 60fps to standard but for me and gaming on PC or my older consoles, I find 4k made the biggest difference. Just like any resolution jumps over the years from when i used to game on a PC Turbo XT and green monochrome monitor. Each new upgrade , the biggest difference in gaming for me was a resolution jump. As well as i guess going from a PC speaker to an actual sound card like Soundblaster or Roland Or Gravis.
Frame rate is far more important
It's diminishing returns after 1080/1440p, esp from typical console viewing situations in a loungeroom.
@DisabledUser139667: It depends on a game, shooters are better with a higher frame rate, but story-driven games are better with a higher resolution.
Just as a heads up, the Series S can output at Native 4K, and games can run at Native 4K (e.g. Ori and the Will of the Wisps), but just don't expect many games to actually support it. Basically if the game isn't as graphically intensive, then the developers can up the resolution to 4k 60 fps… but don't expect it for anything more than that.
Oh so its a game by game setting and not a blanket one? the way people had been talking about it, it sounded like it was 4K for streaming / videos etc. But for gaming it was 1440p? thats what i was led to believe. So basically if the game can be played at 4k and still be a decent fps they will do it but otherwise it will be 1440p if its a graphically intense game?
Likely lower res for demanding games think 1080p or lower (if using dynamic resolution).
Basically if you have a 4K TV and want the best quality with high frame rates go X.
If you have a 1080p TV you could get by with either an S or X but X more future proof if you did upgrade your TV, and likely going to be a smoother operator in demanding games.
I have a 4K TV and had a One X, I couldn’t justify “upgrading” to a lower res console and ponied up the extra for a series X for best of both worlds (increase res and higher frame rates)
@dlcx: Yeah i have 4k TV and 4k Projector, hence why i really did want to get a console that could utilise the 4k.
@lonewolf: Yeah X sounds like the one for you (assuming initial cost not a factor!)
The GPU is less powerful than the Xbox One X… the only reason it's "next gen" is because its cpu is actually decent.
Do you own the Gamepass games forever?
No, only while paying for the subscription and the games get rotated in/out on a monthly basis. You pay a small fee for a rotating selection of third party games and access to all Microsoft published releases. Gamepass Ultimate includes EA Play basic tier too which is a great selection of titles in itself.
Yet didn't stop you from buying one.
At least be consistent.
The Series S has huge potential, it was always about the price.
This is a move in the right direction. Add a $99 4TB HDD + Games Pass and you're doing pretty well here.