Another Ryzen deal, this time the 5900x. Metro shipping seems to be $10.44, ETA 2 days. Expires midnight Sunday night.
To buy or not to complete my zen 3 collection 🤔
Great price - good find OP. Been waiting on a good deal for 5800x but this was too tempting - pulled the trigger.
Yeah paid about $650 for the 5800 , would get this at this price instead any day.
Shieeeeet I paid $906 just 5 weeks ago
Was always gonna happen man. Just gotta accept it and enjoy the 5+ weeks you had with your one
I've been thinking about buying one of these because of all the deals, but now that I see this new model coming later in the year with a heap of cache. Nah. I'll wait for bigger discounts.
Very likely won't see that till next year due to all the silicon shortages.
Sure - but seeing the shiny new 5 series start to discount finally, has taken so long, Lisa Su has already demo'd the new stuff.
12% increase or 18% or whatever it was at same clock speed. I'll hold.
Only at 1080p. And at that resolution, who cares? You'll already be maxing it out.
@MisterHocus: You benchmark CPU at low resolution, you benchmark GPU at high resolution.
@MagnamoniousRex: Correct. My point is, there's only a benefit to waiting if you intend to play at 1080p and if you're spending several hundred dollars on a CPU (and a mobo and RAM) why wouldn't you have a 1440p screen or better? And ar 1440p and above, there's no reported benefit.
@MisterHocus: Also, if you have an even somewhat recent GPU to complement your big shiny 5900X, then at 1080p you're likely pushing 150+FPS in most games anyway. Unless you have a super high-end 240Hz monitor, +18% really means going from 150FPS to 177FPS, which is already outside the realms of what your monitor can do.
Benchmarking games at 1080p is really becoming a synthetic benchmark these days, sure, it gives you a good baseline for comparing multiple CPUs against each other, but when one CPU gets 680FPS in CS:GO and the other gets 790FPS in CS:GO, what does it really matter?
@MisterHocus: Yeah but I don't even need it…. So if I'm gonna get it, it better be a lot better than my 3700x
I think you are right. It makes no sense to make a statement about a product six to nine months off when you are the industry leader (when next gen would be due). My gut's telling me August/September based of the announcement date, making this a new product line.
So early 2021 release then.
@This Guy: 2022 😄
@Cloudream: I am a year behind the times!
With this attitude you will never ever buy a CPU, always a deal or 10% performance release just around the corner(at 20% price hike.). Just buy when you see a good deal. The trick I've found is buying just after the first price drop, there will be more drops but you can't have everything.
The new CPUs with vcache are likely to be the last AM4 CPUs. AM5 with new MB and RAM is going to be a significant cost. It's a pretty decent call to wait for the last AM4 to get the best performance on the platform. As the improvement over current AM4 CPUs could be decent, looking at the keynote numbers.
Same same for buying phones. Why buy a new one every year?
If your looking to future proof, then sure but the allure for a new pc build is usually too much for me. I've tried to future proof this time with a 3080/5800 should be set but DDR5 might sway me. I calculated that all the upgrades I did over the past few years would have been equivalent to just buying a top end 1080ti for $1400 back in 2016 and holding out for 5 years, but I got the experience of building 3 pc's and learning what I really like in cases and RGB and silence.
Last gen AM4 doesn't make sence as the DDR5 jump might be huge then your AM4 system will be very useless in comparison. I wasn't around for DDR3->Ddr4 so don't really know, it might be largely hype.
@lew380: I think it all depends how much money one has to spend on computer parts, and what the needs and wants for computer use is.
I don't remember any platform change that was significant enough immediately. Sure, the numbers looked great but I think most people have found that it took at least a couple of years for there to be a feeling of 'I am being left behind'. I am thinking back to sub 1GHz CPUs. So far it has been something comes out that boosts performance -> takes a little while for software and workloads to be get heavier -> big portion of people finally start looking at updating. This even occurred with HDD -> SSD. Right now there are games that struggle with current top of the range systems at 4K. Does everyone have large 4K monitors? Would people step down to 1440p and be happy? I think most would be happy enough. That leading edge of performance is not significant enough for majority of users. I think there will always be people who want to be at the leading edge. Not everyone. A lot of people wait and take time with upgrades and developers know that. And, right now with silicon shortages not everyone might be able to buy AM5 platform when it comes out, and developers know that too. I don't know what will happen in terms of performance. History shows that there is no rush to upgrade for those who are happy to let go of max settings/best times/etc.
@g1: Yeh sure, a lot is driven by subtle factors, Im into intensive flight sims with VR, I need 4k+ at a solid 90 fps to have any peace, that wasn't a concern of mine a year ago even, I also have the means. I miss the old days of when 1080p was enough, cheap and easy!
@lew380: For your use I am going to guess that you'll update that 3080 to the next generation card close to next gen's release? Same thing with the CPU? Flight sims with high res VR would tax both the CPU single core performance and the GPU, right?
@g1: If u want to enjoy the game without compromise then yes, the current 5000 CPU's are fine but with VR, there is no end to GPU performance, even a 3080 struggles. It will be an expensive pursuit so have to stay on the cutting edge.
Makes the 5600 for $420 look bad
The 5600X is $386 delivered on eBay, or $377 with eBay Plus.
Makes me want to buy one just to see if it will clock better than my current 5900X
Bah, paid $824 yesterday for the one from Harris, already dispatched. Oh well.
I assume you used Shopback eBay swap 5% gift cards?
That would have made it cheaper at $783.27
Nope, didn't know about that.
For future purchases, use the Shopback app, select the "gift cards" icon and buy "swap gift cards".
They vary from 4-5% cashback depending on the amount you buy.
The swap cards can be swapped for other retailers, including ebay :)
@Ausdave: Thanks for the tip!
Same asked to price match, if not cancel my order.
HT had the price at $820 at one point, it's currently $824.80.
@Ausdave Thanks for the tip about Swap Celebration gift cards, I had used eBay ones from ShopBack that give 3%.
Can you do that if order is already paid for and dispatched?
My order hasn't been posted yet, probably won't price match but no harm in asking.
However, as a eBay Plus member you get free returns on eBay Plus items.
Though the seller had yet to reply to my message, looks like they don't have someone read their eBay messages over the weekend. By the time I get a reply the OnlineCentre sale will have ended.
So good chance the ex apple 7nm AMD bought is starting to appear?
Incredible CPU. Nothing comes close in productivity (except 5950X) and it's trading blows with Intel in gaming.
worth it just for gaming?
if you have an RTX 3070 or higher.. maybe. also depends on what games you play. 4K solitaire? bit of an overkill.
What about 8k solitaire?
8k solitaire with 200% upscale.
Only if you play 24 instances of solitaire at the same time.
5600x is probably all you need for gaming
5800x is all you need for gaming
5800x runs hot and has less cores.
New to AMD. Is this too noisy for relatively silent PC?
Best AMD CPU for that?
Any suggestion for quiet GPU?
I currently have i5-6600 16GB with GA-H170-D3HPro gaming (no gaming but soon Python & SQL) & handles 3x 4K monitors with the Intel HD 530 graphics :)
Watercool with 3 360mm radiators and d5 pump
It's still a relatively low power chip, Intel equivalents can use up to twice the juice, I think this maxes out at 140w. It doesn't come with it's own cooler so it's gonna be as loud as you make it.
Noctua D15 and call it a day
5800X is the hot Zen 3 CPU. A 5900X should be fine under any AIO or mid-high end air cooler. Mines cooled by a Noctua NH-D14 and it rarely goes over 70C.
I've currently got a 3900XT and plan to game at 1440p (I just ordered a Dell S2721DGF during the previous sale. Not sure if the monitor is 165Hz for both Nvidia and AMD graphics cards?), would a 5900X make much difference in gaming performance over my AM4 3900XT at 1440p 144/165Hz?
Video card I plan to get is a 6900XT and my CPU cooler is a Noctua NH-D15. Only just starting thinking about it a week or so ago as I was wondering if the 3900XT would be enough to feed something like a 6900XT.
Any help would be appreciated.
Depending on the title and graphic there would be a difference I'd imagine. But you're also playing at 1440p so that minimizes differences a lot.
Check out hardwareunboxed's 5900x review. 9m15s is when the 1440p game benchmarks start.
But the way I see it you're clearly not an average builder. You've spent money on a quality gaming monitor s2721dgf and you've paid for the 6900xt. At this price why wouldn't you go for a 5900x? It'll be max another $300-400 once you sell the 3900xt. Maybe even consider the 5950x at $1164 or wait till it drops a bit more?
Just an opinion
@AldoRaine: Hi, thanks for the reply.
It's because I'd be going way, way past my budget on the video card. I built this system a few months ago, and have been using a stopgap GTX 1070 since I sold my RX 5700 XT at the very end of October thinking I'd get a 3080 or 6800XT/6900XT level card shortly after for just over MSRP. If I still had the 5700 XT, I would have been content to keep waiting a lot longer on a better deal for a new video card, but since I've put this new system together, I'm finding it hard to keep waiting, so it looks like I'm going to have to overspend on the video card as I've been using this stopgap card for 8 months now. I could have just kept my old Intel system with the RX 5700 XT as this new system is pointless without the video card (The main reason/purpose for this new system was so that I can try and get back into gaming as I haven't gamed hardly at all the past 3-4 years).
I haven't actually bought the video card yet, either. I'm looking at either a 6800 XT, 6900 XT or 3080. Just depends which one I can get at a decent price in this current market. I didn't really want to change out the CPU, but if you guys thought it would make a difference to any of those video cards, I will definitely consider it. Also, good point about selling the 3900XT, I guess I'd get back a bit of money. The 5950X is out of my price range, so I can't really consider that.
I don't let my CPU speak. The cooling fans are what creates the noise, not the CPU. Go with a big heatsink and you won't hear the fan. NH-D15 is good. I use NH-U12A.
Note that the 570 series chipsets all have their own rather noisy cooling fans. Good to read reviews or wait for the new 570-S series which is Silent.
True. Mine never runs though. I think the chipset starts making heat when you have pcie devices hanging off it (GPU slot is straight from the CPU).
Which motherboard model do you have?
@RedHab: X570 Unify
Prices for these are only going to come down to compete with the cheap intel cpus.
Prices for these are only going to come down to compete with the cheap intel cpus.
What do you mean by that? Intel are decreasing prices on their current CPUs or do you mean about upcoming release/s from Intel?
NEED……. TO……………..WAIT ……………………………… FOR……………………………………………….. AM5 ………………………………………………………………………… SO……………………………………………………………………………………………. HARD.