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Seagate 4TB Expansion Desktop Hard Drive $99 (Limit 3 Per Customer) @ Officeworks

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I think it's a decent buy at around $24.75/TB considering recent price hikes

Nothing better on Amazon.au: https://diskprices.com/?locale=au&condition=new&disk_types=e...

Should be shuckable: https://mattgadient.com/how-to-shuck-the-seagate-expansion-4...
FYI, probably SMR which is inferior to CMR.
(correction) HDD inside: should be ST4000DM004 (thanks Trance N Dance)

eBay link if you want to use gift cards: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Seagate-4TB-Expansion-Desktop-Ha... (thanks @cycloneaussie)

JB HiFi same price: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/seagate-expansion-desktop...

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  • +10 votes

    It's not portable…it's a desktop HD

    • +1 vote

      Cheers, wrong copy&paste

    • +1 vote

      For those with Ebay Plus that need the portable version, SEAGATE 4TB BACKUP PLUS is available from Bing Lee for $116.10 with code PLUSFLASH10

  • +3 votes

    Same price as JB Hifi (deal has been marked as expired at JB on these forums but it's still really active).

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      JB got it like $75-$79 last week I believe.

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      cheers, added the link

  • +23 votes

    Its also been this price for ever… this is not a deal this is RRP

    • +4 votes

      Yep, according to Moore's law these things should be selling for $25.

      • +8 votes

        Pretty sure they repealed moore's law years ago :(

      • +3 votes

        Still waiting for this law to come into effect (amongst other laws I'm waiting for…)

        • +8 votes

          I'll give you my mother in law

          • +2 votes

            @pig: I'll throw in a Jude.

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        I threw out a bunch of 1tb drives yesterday, from about a decade ago. They cost less than $200.

        Weird point in the cycle. Just waiting for SSD to evolve a bit more, at some point HDD will suddenly become worthless.

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      RRP dropped in Feb this year.

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        Was this price in Dec 2020 when i bought 2 of them

        and in August 2020 when i bought 1 of them

        • +2 votes

          They've got me with their marketing EOFY sale then (didn't pull the trigger though).

    • +4 votes

      It did jump up in price post Covid:

      29/3/20 - Seagate Expansion 4TB External Desktop Drive $99 @ Officeworks

      $99 deal expired (price increase) - reported on 18/4/20

      Then:

      19/8/20 - Seagate 4TB Expansion Desktop Hard Drive $120 Delivered from Officeworks (Auto expired after 45 days)

      3/12/20 - Seagate 4TB Expansion Desktop HDD $109 @ Officeworks/Catch/Bing Lee (Auto expired after 45 Days)

      Now back to $99

      You can also see in eBay Feedback the price drop from $109 to $99:

      Seagate 4TB Expansion Desktop Hard Drive (#224271615393)
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      Seagate 4TB Expansion Desktop Hard Drive (#224271615393)
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      **AU $109.00

      Past 6 months

      Now back to $99 indefinitely you would assume.

      • +2 votes

        you're the hero OzBargain needs but doesn't deserve.

  • +5 votes

    Been like this for ages.

  • +1 vote

    Are these SMR drives?

  • +2 votes

    Bought years ago for the same price

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    this is the standard price… also at jb hifi for this normal price for agesss

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    hello, is this good to plug and leave for my laptop for just transferring,storing documents and using it store VMs? How is the noise is it quiet?

    • +2 votes

      Store VMs? Yes. Run VMs? No.

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      A few points, these things power down pretty aggressively if not in use but also get very very hot if used constantly say during a big backup.

      I put a fan on mine if backing up for more than 30mins. They can easily hit 60 degrees

  • +1 vote

    Anyone tried this with a PS4 or ps5 and how’s the speed?

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    Yeah, would be good to know speed on PS5?

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      I don't think I'd expect playable performance on it, but if you just need to archive games/files you use infrequently it will work.

      On the series X even a usb SSD doesn't have workable performance for the newer games.

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        Neither new console can run titles designed for the current gen (PS5/series X) off external storage.

        you can only run old games (PS4, xbox one/360) from external storage.

        ed: performance is not as good as using the internal SSD in either console, or as good as using an SSD as your external drive.

        • +1 vote

          Agreed. I think with current SSD prices my strategy will be archive on an external SSD and move them to the main SSD as needed.

          The proprietary NVME SSD is still a bit over the top. Half the price of the console itself.

          • +1 vote

            @CheeseBeans: I Have a 1TB 860evo in an Orico caddy on my series X and its where all my legacy games that i play once a month live.

            all the games I play regularly live on the internal drive to make the most of the performance.

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              @Laserface: I did this this morning when the ssd arrived but connected to the series s will store 360/one games and free up the internal drive for enhanced and x/s games.

    • +1 vote

      This is not the portable version and I haven't used desktop external HDD on PS5.
      I am using the portable version of this one (hybrid SMR). I thought the hybrid SMR would be much slower than my older portable HDD which is CMR (but smaller in storage size), but, there is no noticeable difference between the two. However, I've only half filled the 4TB HDD. SMR generally affects writes more than reads so if you don't re-write things a lot, it might be okay.

      I don't think you can expect any significant benefit from faster, CMR HDDs. If I really want faster load, I would go for external / portable SSD. That said, I don't recommend desktop external HDD for PS5 (it's bulky and with PS5/PS4, you do need to safely disconnect the external drive before removing it).

      A gripe on PS4/PS5 - come on Sony, it's time to support multiple external storages. It's a pain to move data from external HDD to internal SSD, safely remove the external HDD, put in the new external HDD, transfer, repeat the process a few times to move games from 1 external HDD to another external HDD.

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        spot on sony's approach to external hard drives is stone age.

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      I am using the 3TB on the PS5 and used to use it on my PS4, obviously you can only use it for Storing PS5 or playing PS4 games, it works totally fine and Loading times are probably better than the PS4 as well. I'd say thanks to the external Power it is more reliable than a Portable HDD and could output faster but not by much. GTAV takes 1:40 to load using the HDD, compared to my 500mb/s SSD on PC which takes 2 Minutes weirdly.

  • +7 votes

    Since when is normal RRP a deal? Its also the same price at JB.

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    Can anyone confirm this is 100% shuckable?

    I'd like to buy one and put it into my emulation PC.

    • +2 votes

      They can be shucked

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        Thank you.

        At the moment, my emulation PC only has a 500GB HDD.

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    Can you use this with a PS4 to store and play games?

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      yes

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        Is it any good?

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          its a basic external hard drive. it will succeed at being an external hard drive.

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    How does this compare to the portable version?

    • +1 vote

      You need a power source with this.

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        Are there any differences in performance?

  •  

    i was considering this but ended up buying WD Mybook 4TB for $141 after price match.

    too many bad reviews on the seagate unit

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      Did you need an external drive?

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        mmm… yes?

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          If you were going to shuck you can buy the internal drive cheaper or pay marginally more for a NAS rated internal drive.

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            @Trance N Dance: Where can you get 4TB internal drive cheaper?

            pay marginally more for a NAS rated internal drive

            High capacity external drive most likely have NAS / Enterprise in it. Most of the time it is cheaper

            • +1 vote

              @pig: MSY, Mwave, Umart, Scorptech, Skycomp, PLE Computers, Computer Alliance, and a number of smaller local shops have 4TB 3.5" internal drives listed for cheaper than $141. Of those MSY, Scorptech and PLE Computers have WD drives for under $141.

              This isn't a high capacity drive, and both WD and Seagate don't ship their 4TB externals with NAS/Enterprise drives in them (and in WD's case they're not White labled drives either)

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                @Trance N Dance: My bad - I thought you are referring to the deal OP posted ( $99 )

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                  @pig: Ah should've made the context clearer. In that comment thread's case it was if you're chasing an internal drive that isn't a 4TB Seagate Barracuda.

  • +1 vote

    it's always this price

  • +2 votes

    HDD inside should be ST4000DM004. STEB4000300 is the model number for the external unit as a whole.

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      Cheers, updated

  • +3 votes

    This is not a deal. Its the usual price. When its on deal its been down for $76 or something.

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    Not technically a deal. The chia mining rush is almost over. HDD just goes back to the old price.

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      very much hope so, hodling out for a 6-8TB HDD

    • +2 votes

      RAM based mining will be next. Bring out your old DDR2s.

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        You need 256Gb of RAM to mine Chia in RAM. There are few motherboards that even support that much.

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          Certainly can get that much on Windows page file!

          • -1 vote

            @netjock: You sure can, but where is the page file stored? On a HDD or SSD. Last time I priced 256Gb of RAM it was $1k for the mobo and $2500 for the RAM. $3.5k buys 8 high endurance, high speed 2Tb SSDs. Much better value.

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          Wait until there's LiteChia or ChiaClassic which only needs 64GB of RAM
          Then we're screwed!

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      I also hope so!

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      The Chia mining rush is still picking up pace.

      https://www.chiaexplorer.com/charts/netspace?period=3m

      While the price per XCH is falling.

      https://www.chiaexplorer.com/charts/xchPrice?period=1m

      Still no sign that people are giving up buying every hard drive they can and throwing it at Chia.

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        Shortage of graphics cards, shortage of hard drives.

        Better dust off those old 250gb drives. They might go 3x in price just like second hand cars.

  • +1 vote

    Shuckable, but they're SMR drives.
    May have had a bad batch because I've had 2 fail within warranty.

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    Always been at this price, bought one back in Feb.

    • +5 votes

      Most of the people responding negatively are complaining about losing their data because they had all their data on only ONE drive.

      All hard drives are fragile, they don’t like being bumped, disconnected carelessly or overheating which these desktop external drives do if used for hours at a time.

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        Grand plan. Cheaper drives but people will have to buy 2 or 3 for the reliability of 1.

        Maybe best buy 2 and put them in RAID 1.

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          People who are serious about data redundancy already do that (or at least a form of RAID) and have at the very least 1 backup.
          If it's data that's important then you should at the minimum keep two separate copies, and RAID does not count.

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            @Trance N Dance: Then you need to buy a holiday house to store the copy. A safe deposit box is not flashy enough.

  •  

    This is not a deal. It’s standard rrp for some time.

  • +2 votes

    If you must buy, go via Officeworks eBay to use discounted gift cards and C&C.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Seagate-4TB-Expansion-Desktop-Ha...

    • +1 vote

      Or get JB Hi-Fi to pricematch and use the upcoming 10% off TCN giftcards starting tomorrow at Coles.

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        Is that 10% off JB HiFi cards from Coles, on right now? Can't find anything.

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      cheers, added

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    Any good for a NAS for movies?

    • +1 vote

      Perfect for the money. Super slow to write to but great for storage and playback. Have had dozen of them running in microservers 24/7 for years and years with no issues although spec-chasers will suggest they're not ideal.

  •  

    Just because no one has said it enough: "this isn't a deal" and "it's always this price"
    /s

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    Any confirmations on the exact drives in these?
    Differences between batches?

  • +1 vote

    Picked one up today from Officeworks and shucked it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0DevtBXP6A

  • +1 vote

    i bought 2 of these from officeworks not thom the ebay store that were delivered today and 1 has the usual ST4000DM004 inside and the other has an older model ST4000DM005
    ST4000DM004 5400 rpm, 256 Mb cache, 2 platters, 4 heads
    ST4000DM005 5900 rpm, 64 Mb cache, 3 platters, 6 heads
    i have a bunch of these drives all shucked and they are all dm004 should i take the dm005 one back for a replacement

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    What software can I use to test these before I shuck them?

    • +1 vote

      Crystaldiskinfo for smart data (diagnostic) and Crystaldiskmark for benchmark data. They will also tell you what type of drive is in there.