In case the once they missed the 8TB black armour deal, i think even without the disk its a pretty good deal as previously you can get 2Tb drives as cheap as $80, in a month or two HDD's price will touch that mark again
http://www.onlinecomputer.com.au/product_info.php?products_i…
CNET Review
http://www.cnet.com.au/seagate-blackarmor-nas-440-339297787.…
There would be no point for USB3.0 considering the speed of most NAS boxes.
USB2.0 will get about 25MB/sec and most NAS can only transfer about that speed. This one pulls about 30MB/sec via the LAN.
However this particular NAS has REALLY slow USB > LAN speeds…. about 5MB/sec to FAT32 or 2MB/sec to NTFS [eeek]
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-reviews/30800-seagate…
So, it's not the ports… it's something else that is throttling it.
wow. might stay away from this puppy heh
"It's not surprising to see low performance with NTFS, since most NASes use a free open source driver that limits performance with that format. But a business class NAS, especially one with up to 8 TB of storage, needs to do better than 5 MB/s for backup! For comparison, the single-drive QNAP TS-119, which uses the same Marvell processor and half the memory, measured just shy of 21 MB/s on the same test!"
That review is from 2009 so take it with a pinch of salt. Seagate has updated the firmware/software since then.
Perfect example is they neg it for no MacOS or timemachine support, yet that has been fixed and it now works fine with MacOS.
There would be no point for USB3.0 considering the speed of most NAS boxes.
Not if you have to transfer large files to/from portable external HDD on a regular basis.
Good price, but in my experience NAS boxes like this all suffer from reaaaaaalllllllyyyyy slow transfer speeds. Limited by CPU/RAM that cant keep up with gigabit transfer or in this case dual gigabit. Anyone had any experience?
Of course - there is no way you'll get Gigabit speeds from a cheap device like this. Anyway, the drives that are inside them would be lucky to hit 80MB/sec and less if it's in a RAID array.
The "domestic grade" NAS usually transfer in the region of 20 to 30MB/sec which is more than fast enough to stream 1080p video, etc. Remember, they are attached to the network so it's not like you have to wait while they copy…. you just set up the transfer and walk away.
They can certainly transfer data fast enough for a Torrent or other download to be saved straight onto them (only 10MB/sec even on fastest 100mbps cable or fibre internet), whilst leaving plenty of capacity left over for normal file copying, streaming, etc as well.
If you want full speed gigabit, you need to use a enterprise grade NAS, or a small PC like those HP Microservers.
FYI Delivery to Sydney say $8.29 or something - decent delivery price. Plus they offer pickup (no idea where they are)
What's the deal with this NAS though? Is it any good? Seems like a decent price for a 4-bay nas but I'm very weary about Seagates nas offerings.
Also they seem to have offered this with hard drives - 8tb worth - for only $600. Seems like a better deal but sold out.
http://www.onlinecomputer.com.au/product_info.php?products_i…
Yea, this deal is on the front page, lots of comments (apparently reviews are bad)
why? when i picked up a microserver, the faster n40l @ $270ish from harris tech late last year???
http://www.megabuy.com.au/hp-658553-371-proliant-n40l-micros…
similar price here although ends up at just under $300 delivered for me.
is this a better option? it only supports raid0 or raid1 apparently?
Because you don't need to install an operating system, and maintain it. You don't need a screen or a keyboard either. You just plug in the NAS, configure it via a web browser and away you go.
I've had both PCs and NAS for file serving, and now days I'd never have a PC-based server any longer. Every time I think about getting one of those Microservers, I remember the hassle of having yet another machine on my home network to maintain, keep up to date, etc. My NAS just sits there, chugging away with 100% uptime, and I never need to think about it, let alone touch it.
It's a bit like routers - for many many years I used to run a PC for that too, then I got a WRT54-GL and was amazed at how easy and stable it was… and now would never go back to a server-based solution. Yes, I agree that a proper server will give better performance and more "power" and more flexibility… but for most users, a NAS (like a dedicated router) is easier and good enough for what they need.
This is what I was worried about & you successfully confirmed my fears. I too do not have time to maintain a PC like you mentioned - others do though.
Still on the search for a good cheap/fast/easy nas. Thats a tricky combo though.
Depends on how demanding you need it. The go micro server is capable of saturating gigabit connections, but if you don't need to stream and transfer uncompressed video.files then go for a nas. It would be easier to configure
i am using the micro server at the moment as a NAS/htpc , it struggles to play 1080p movies even with a 1gb graphics card. also I can hear the fan sound on my living room
Then you are doing it wrong. My N36L plays all videos over hdmi, including 30gb full quality hd rips, with cpu@ 30-40%. Flawless, and I am not alone.
4gb ram, hd6450 (5450 works too)
I use win 7 and xbmc, but also daum potplayer as well.
Either you have not enabled gpu acceleration or you are using vlc as your player, which is a cpu hog.
I suggest you sign up to whirlpool or overclockers and look at the microserver and htpc threads.
The microserver will work for you with a few tweaks. Good luck, it can be frustrating but once working you will never look back.
Any size of 1080p files will work if I use boxes or xbmc, its having problems if I use VLC or windows media player.
And I am using western digital green drives with 5400rpm if that causing the issue, whats your hdd speed?
mine are all green drives, samsung or hitachi from memory. No fancy raid or fast drives. The object was to be cheap, low power and easy to use rather than the best.
Why use vlc? Try daum potplayer instead. I was a vlc fanboy but nowdays running slower lower power cpu's efficiency is important.
I have not had problems with sound though, I play straight into a sony tv through hdmi for picture and sound.
codecs mate. nothing to do with hard drives,
PRobably the video card. I have one of those ATI low profile cards, and watch over HDMI (i only tested in XBMC, but I remember before XBMC I had trouble w/ VLC as well). Theres problems with sound buffering, if you let the GFX control the HDMI sound! I was getting seriously choppy BD-Rips… and it wasn't a HDD transfer speed or CPU bottle neck issue as my WDTV Live over ethernet was fine.
Yep, youre doing it wrong.
I got the HP Microserver running 1080P bluray perfect… no fans, no overheating, minimal power usage.
Search google dude.
I need to buy a NAS to share some excel files - so that they can be edited by several PCs on the network at the same time. Ideally by being wirelessly connected to the network. Is this 440 a good option?
I was thinking of getting one of the Seagate 2TB GoFlex Home Network things - or via staticice you can get the 3TB for roughly the same price. I'd prefer to get a Western Digital over Seagate but I don't think WD have one with wireless for a similar price. I'd only prefer WD as we already have several WD external MyBook hard drives.
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Technology/Dat…
We don't really need much data storage size at all, but in terms of usage which would be the better option?
if you don't need much storage and don't care about RAID configurations then it might be better to buy a wi-fi router/modem with USB ports (preferably 3.0) for hooking up your externable drives and sharing the EXCEL files wirelessly.
Or you can place the Excel files into a certain folder on your computer, then Right-Click on the folder and choose "SHARE".
That way, you don't need to buy anything. Every computer has this built in, for free!
share some excel files - so that they can be edited by several PCs on the network at the same time
FYI - only one user can edit them at a time - the operating system will lock the file when it is opened, so that you don't end up with a big mess. While it is being edited by one user, the others can open the original copy as "Read Only".
In Office2010 u can have multiple users editing the file…
How? Have you confirmed this? Office 2010 at work just brings up the usual "open read only"/"notify me"
Once I set up both my hp microservers I dont need a keyboard or a monitor. Just plug it to the power and the lan. And VNC or iteleport.
Its much more flexible being able to install your own OS on a NAS.
I had a an Atom based netbook laying around not being used so just plugged a USB2 HDD into it, shared the drive and connected a lan cable. Power usage is very important to me and this setup uses only 10watts (a bit more when the USB HDD wakes up). I haven't had much luck with any DLNA stuff in the past so I can just run SAMBA shares and also run any media server software I want for my PS3. The flexibility of a full OS is great. I haven't tested speed but 1080P streams fine.
4 x USB 2.0 ports. Deal breaker for me.