Intel Core i9-9900KF
16GB DDR4 3200MHZ
240mm AIO RGB CPU Cooler
Gigabyte Z390 UD ATX Motherboard
RTX 3070 8GB Graphics
Corsair 1TB PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD
Coolermaster MB511L ARGB Mid-Tower ATX Case
3RGB Fans
EVGA 600W 80Plus Gold PSU
Looks the same as V2. Doesn't say the video card is or isn't LHR, may want to ask them if that matters to you. Motherboard and power supply probably aren't the best in class but still probably better value than the expired Techfast i7/3070 deal.
Rrp or inflated market price that'll normalise over next 6 months?
Decent
decent deal but better to wait
wait how long though?
wait btc go up again
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Won't that drive prices up again, as cards will have more interested buyers??
Graphics card is worth almost this. At least the RGB versions.
No, they're not. 3070s were going for $1,800-2,000 a month ago.
Not anymore. Going way down now.
Best to wait.
It's only going to come down now, give it a month at least to see a significant difference, but you'll see.
One just doesn't ban 90% of the world's cryto mining factories and NOT sell off the gpus at current high prices to recover costs, to ironically devalue and lower all card values in the process.
they're moving the farm abroad
They are, but a significant amount are cashing out with the millions they already got and selling the gpus now while they're hot.
Great deal, quality components
3080 machine should be under 2k soon.
3070 machine shouldn't be this expensive
3080 machine under 2k? you're delusional
you'll be lucky finding a 3080 for 2k by itself
the 3080 BY ITSELF could be under 2k soon, but not a whole machine!
Imma spend 2k of my tax dollars on a new rig. Hope techfast has some good deals going by the time my return is in my bank
If you can wait a month you’ll be cheering
Yeah I’ll deffs be waiting for a good sale. First one that pops
which part of your new rig are you buying for your 2k?
I only have a full 2060 laptop atm so looking to buy a prebuilt or full system and piece it together
Is this better than building a new PC?
looking to do a build for my FIL
This is a good way of getting hold of an RTX 3070 that would otherwise be hard to buy on its own or would sell close to the price of this entire build. This would be a good option.
The motherboard and PSU limit future upgrades. It's still good value regardless.
Which brand is better, this (BPC Tech), or Techfast?
bpc has better quality components (beware of shitty cases though)
Thanks for the answer, just what i needed :)
Good deal
This is a great deal. Bought one for my sister (V2, same specs) and picked it up last week. Case is great for the price, no complaints at all. Also comes with the boxes for each component if that is important to you.
Looks like starting GPU price is going down. I want to but it now but I will wait. Chinese huge mine factories were shut down and many countries ban the mining due to electricity consuming. The price should be going down to normal very soon. We have to wait until then together. The market is moving onto customers hand.
Bought this literally yesterday. Worth noting that it comes with a razer power up bundle, which includes a 'Razer Kraken X Lite Gaming Headset + Cynosa Lite Gaming Keyboard + Viper Gaming Mouse'. Can be found under the specs tab.
what gpu do you get?
is it gigabyte 3 fan or else?
I haven't received it yet so idk what I'm gonna get. I'll get back to you once I do.
Got the PC this week, can confirm I got a gigabyte 3 fan 3070. There's other models used as well, so idk which card you'd get if you were to buy one of these.
is that the gigabyte eagle or https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N3070GAMING-OC-8GD…
thanks optimus lime
My understanding is that the mobo and cpu is a couple generations old. Is this a problem to upgrade in the future? How long would it still be relevant for?
Sorry, am noob.
The i9-9900KF is pretty similar to the newer i7-10700kf or probably also the 11700kf. None of them have much of an upgrade path as Intel are changing sockets for the 12th generation chips.
Z390 does not have a LGA 1200 socket, so upgradability is non-existent. In terms of upgrade in the future, as in CPU, you would have to change the mobo. The plus side is that it supports Windows 11
The 3070 may potentially be LHR, as I noticed in their previous deal it specifically states that it was "Full power version" and when that deal got sold out they took down the deal and made a new listing stating LHR. This one now doesn't mention either, so potentially LHR, as non LHR would yield higher sales, and it would be something they wouldn't exclude in the spec sheet as it's a critical sales point IMO.
Thought the minimum PSU power requirement for a 3070 was 650w?
Some feedback as I purchased the V2 version of this, which looks pretty similar in specs.
The CPU is decent, not that far behind the current gen - mostly because Intel has been a (profanity) for the last couple of years. About equal to a 10700k/11700k.
The motherboard is the bottom of the range. A decent budget option, but missing a lot of "nice to have" stuff. Not really suited to the then, top-of-the-line i9-9900KF. It does support f-TPM2.0, as well as a separate TPM2.0 module. As far as I can see TPM 2.0 modules are OOS so you'll have to settle for f-TPM2.0. At least you'll be able to upgrade to Windows 11.
The CPU cooler was a EVGA CLC 240mm All-In-One RGB LED CPU Liquid Cooler. An ok middle of the range 240mm twin fan cooler.
The GPU is also a decent model, if it's the same as my Gigabyte 3070 GAMING OC 8G (rev. 1.0). Triple fan and pretty quiet. Register it online for an extra year's warranty.
The case is ok, but the LED fans are really cheap and noisy. They are louder than the rad fans. One issue I've found is there is no removable dust filters on the front of the case. So dust collects on the front mesh of the case. There is a removable top filter for the rad fans, but since that's exhaust air, there isn't much dust.
You could reverse the rad and case fans, so that you sucked air from the top and blew it out the front and rear. If you had the PC say under your desk or in a high dust/pet hair environment.
The SSD was a Corsair MP400 1TB, which is a decent choice. ~3400R - 1800MB/sW
I went for the upgrade to 32GB, and got a Corsair CMK32GX4M2E3200C16 kit which is a budget 16-20-20-38 kit. Not that bad considering that Intel isn't as timing dependant as AMD. Still, for the extra money I hoped for better.
But I must give a warning:
When I was unpacking mine, there was a rattle. Not good. It turned out to be one of the lock-down nuts for the CPU cooler. So out of the 4 locking nuts, 1 had come off completely, and another one was barely holding on. There was no excuse for this as there's no way this could have happen during shipping. It looked like the builder never finished installing the CPU pump head properly.
Luckily I picked up the issue before turning on the system. Resat the CPU cooler and reinstalled the screws to proper tightness. Others may have need to RMA the system as the CPU would have been throttling like mad with a faulty CPU cooler installation.
The other issue is that the BIOS on the motherboard was at least 5 months out of date as it didn't have the current Jan-2021 update.
Also none of the graphics card or motherboard software (overclocking, utility, fan control etc) was installed either, which depending on your preference, is either a good, or bad, thing.
Overall, given that the GPU is currently around $1500 or so, the rest of the system for $600 is ok for the money, considering that the CPU and motherboard are two generations out of date. It's more by luck that Intel hasn't really improved their CPUs in that time.
But this system should still be a decent 1440p system for several years to come, and compared to say a Dell at the same price, offers better upgradability, better quality of parts and ease of repair.
wow thanks for the detailed feedback.
Would you still get this deal over the the 3070 ti deal from techfast?
It would come down to personal preference. This system has a faster CPU in both single and multi-thread performance, however there's no upgrade path without replacing both CPU and motherboard.
The techfast has a slightly faster GPU, but much smaller SSD. I'd say the cases are both about the same. Ram specs are much more important for AMD systems and 3200Mhz, probably slow timings as well, could be leaving 10-15% system performance on the table, against spending a little more for decent 3600 C16 memory.
The techfast does have a decent upgrade path, you could put in a 3900 in a year or two for a cheap boost as the GPU should still be decent then too. But you might have an issue finding a new 3900 retail in a couple of years, which means trolling ebay for one. You'd probably want a water-cooling cooler too.
So if you want lower performance and storage now, but with a cheaper upgrade path later get the Techfast.
If you want higher performance, more storage, and watercooling now, but with a higher upgrade cost later, get the BPC Tech.
BTW the $300 upgrade option to a 5600x for techfast seems poor value. I'd consider the watercooling for $140 depending on brand. I'd buy my own 1-2TB Nvme SSD as their upgrade prices suck (they only give you a $10 credit for the 256GB it comes with). The PS is probably ok.
There's also the "Bonus Razer Power Up Bundle (P/N RZ85-02740200-B3M1) including Razer Kraken X Lite Gaming Headset + Cynosa Lite Gaming Keyboard + Viper Gaming Mouse" that the BPC Tech system comes with, which I didn't get, so that's a nice bonus.
For me personally, I'd get the Bifrost over the Techfast. Too much low spec stuff I'd want to replace right way in the Techfast, and poor value upgrade options.
Hi Chris,
We really appreciate your valuable feedback.
Would that be possible for us to have your order number? We will look into the order with the technician team regarding your CPU mounting issue.
The Bifrost system is our first system of the new Kraken series. We can't tolerate such mistakes.
Regards
BPC Team
PM Sent.
Thanks for the info Chris! May I ask what model/brand did you get sent for the GPU? I'm thinking of grabbing this deal but concern about the quality of the GPU
Get this deal instead of tech fast one. I bought two of the techfast deals before, case (especially bad, the sheet metal is soon thin), ram, mobo, GPU, PSU are all bottom tier, only ssd is decent. They aim to make money from upgrade (since the $300 for 5600x, when i can get a 5600x for $380 on sale)
Lance case or did you grab one of the MSI ones?
Lance, MSI needs extra
Yeah I was going to say. You gotta upgrade Techfast systems, otherwise you're really just getting a GPU.
@Clear: Totally agree, but what they ask for upgrade is not worth it. If u tick upgrades that makes the build half decent, it actually better of gather parts when on sales.
@s20525xxx: That's also true. For me I opt for the case upgrade as it's $39 and sometimes a PSU upgrade too. The rest is from sales.
Damn, the bonus keyboard, mouse, and headset is no longer included.
Does this come with windows installed, just not activated?
Windows 10 Home, unactivated.
It was pretty painless to activate a Win10Pro key as well. No re-installation, Windows 10 does an inplace upgrade to Pro.
where did you get your Win10Pro key from? Im on the market sussing out software depot
I got mine from Microsoft’s TechNet. But that service ended. Just do a search in the forums for a recommended eBay key reseller.
Hello guys, does anyone know how many monitors i can hook up to this PC at once? my current build allows for 3 Monitors, one HDMI, one VGA, one DisplayPort
It’s hard to know without knowing the exact model of graphics card, but almost certainly 3 x DisplayPort, and 1 x HDMI.
IF it's the same "Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 GAMING OC 8G (rev. 1.0)" that came in my system, it's 2x DisplayPort 1.4a & 2x HDMI 2.1
If you really need VGA, you can buy HDMI to VGA adaptors,which are relatively expensive but you'd need a pretty old monitor to not have HDMI.
You can also get HDMI to DVI-D, which older monitors support and are pretty cheap.
Im using VGA simply because i didnt have the extra HDMI slot, my current build is pretty old [almost one decade], any recommendation on the upgrades? yall reckon the pricing for the extras: 159 for windows 10, 149 for 32GB ram, 79 for 2TB HDD, 39 for WIFI is worth it? I read your comment @chris about the mounting issue, anything else i should look out for? ive never had an issue with prebuilds but lucky you had a keen eye
yall reckon the pricing for the extras: 159 for windows 10
If you have a copy of Windows 7, or 8 you can use that key to activate Windows 10. You can also buy a key online for a lot less. I had an old TechNet subscription, so have up to 10x Windows 10 Home and 10x Windows 10 Pro keys to use.
149 for 32GB ram
I did get that. If they give you the same CMK32GX4M2E3200C16 kit as me, it goes for around $270. While 16GB is enough for most people, 32GB is a worthwhile upgrade for longevity, IMO.
79 for 2TB HDD
Too small to be useful IMO. I've got a 32TB NAS so the 1TB SSD is enough for OS and a few games for me.
If I had no network storage, I'd first get an external backup drive, before getting an internal drive. Personally I wouldn't buy anything under 4TB. You can get internal 4TB drives for ~$120. External 4TB for ~$130.
Remember if you can't afford to back it up, you can't afford it.
39 for WIFI is worth it?
That's up to you. I have a wired 1GB connection so don't need it.
If I did need wifi, I'd go for something with a decent external antenna and Wifi 6, eg. No idea what BPC are selling. USB wifi adaptors aren't worth it IMO.
anything else i should look out for?
Rattles. Slowly turn the PC over and upside down. If anything rattles check it out. A loose screw can short out a motherboard, CPU, graphics card etc.
Look for damage to the graphics card. Make sure it's sitting straight and level in the slot and not loose.
Make sure the pump head / CPU cooler is firm and doesn't wobble around.
When first booting up, make sure you can turn if off at the wall in case the magic smoke starts coming out.
Once booted into Windows, check device manager to make sure you got what you paid for. Eg a 1TB SSD and not a 256GB. A 3070 and not a 3060 etc. 2 sticks of RAM and not 1 stick. Get something like CPU-Z to help here too.
I also like to run my systems stock for several weeks just to get a feeling for temps, sounds, noise etc. Make sure everything is working properly, before screwing it up. :D
@Chris McMahon: Great advice, thanks for that. Any good recommendations for a 32TB NAS Setup, brand and price wise?
@ULT: I've got a QNAP TS-431+ and wouldn't recommend it. In fact I'd stay clear of QNAP altogether. I spend way to much time dealing with QNAP's bullshit security updates. It seems every few days they find another security issue and I have to update the OS, or download a new applet, or change some setting that removes a feature I specifically bought the NAS for.
Just last night I spent 3 hours redoing all my network shares because QNAP decided to disallow the default admin account and force me to create a new one, which broke every PC's shares to the NAS as I had to delete them all (around 10 per PC x 4 PCs) and recreate them (Windows networking won't let you just change the username and password, but requires deletion and recreation.)
Since I only use my NAS as a Plex server and backup device, I think I'll just use it was dumb storage and use a NUC8i5 as the Plex and brains running Win10Pro. Pity Intel stopped production of the NUC8i5, it still has faster IGP graphics than the new 11th gen.
As for a recommendation for you - it depends on your needs. Unless you need a plex server, or have a multi-user setup, an external USB3.1 enclosure (4 drive versions for around $200) would be fine. Just remember to backup your data.
If you really wanted a NAS, and don't want to build one yourself, maybe Synology. I'd avoid the ARM based models though.
@Chris McMahon: thanks for the headsup about the QNAP series, ill have a look around, would be sick if a NAS deal dropped soon too. have a quick look at this deal by Techfast that just got released, https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/636310 Any thoughts on this? seems easier to upgrade and has a 3080 for 2500 bux
Any thoughts on this?
Same as all Techfast deals. Most of the stuff I'd want to replace immediately. Upgrade prices offer poor value. Plus a 4-5 week wait time.
Better deal - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/636353
@Chris McMahon: Solid advice, not fond of slow turnover times to be frank. Appreciate the advice Chris, you've been a blessing
@Chris McMahon: i ended up getting https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/636353 seemed to good to pass up tbh, also from BPC
Reading the comments , can’t work out . Is this a good deal, or should I wait a few months.
It's a good deal that's shipping now. There's also a 3080 deal that's worth the extra money, IMO.
However if you can wait, the GPU shortage looks like getting better the cards will be getting closer to RRP in the future. But if some shitcoin is suddenly mentioned by Elon Musk tomorrow, who knows what the hell will happen.
To wait or buy now is the question Hmmmm
Seem good price just the graphic card already over $1000