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[Pre Order] EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB (Dual Fan) GPU $732 + Shipping @ Advanced PC and Simulations

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[Pre Order] EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB (Dual Fan) GPU $732 + Shipping @ Advanced PC and Simulations
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thestripedlion on 10/07/2021 - 14:10 apcandsims.com.au (2045 clicks)
Last edited 12/07/2021 - 11:20 by 2 other users

As we see the prices of cryptocurrency fall, I noticed this on the net. Messaged the company and they said "We don't have physical stock. There is a 30 day delivery time on supply at the reduced price" so this seems like a pre-order for this model. Waiting for another response on the amount of units that they may be expecting :)
I think it is the cheapest at the moment. Perhaps in a month it will be even cheaper. Do what you think is right 🤔
Also see U/eshayslayers post too: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/637153

Have fun!

Edit: seller has requested to pull the listing here, :( price was jacked a bit to $999
My apologies to everyone :(
Mod please remove listing :(

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  • samsal46 on 10/07/2021 - 14:18
    +2

    Reliable seller? Could they be selling repackaged ones?

    • thestripedlion on 10/07/2021 - 14:30

      Unsure, I'm still waiting on a response. Take care!

    • couger on 10/07/2021 - 14:49
      +11

      A 3060 can do 50 mh/s using leaked driver, very efficient in mining.

    • CrushJelly on 10/07/2021 - 14:50
      +5

      Quite an ignorant comment.
      Using leaked drivers, and with an appropriate motherboard and hdmi dummy, they work just fine in mining ETH. 40-50Mh/s at a little over 100W. Very efficient.

      Many have built rigs with multiple 3060s with success.

      • ilovefullprice on 10/07/2021 - 15:00

        China has banned crypto mining, reducing retail demand for mining crypto with gpus, hence creating somewhat of an excess supply of gpus coming out of production.

        If anyone wants to buy gpus, now is a pretty good time to get one.

      • AncientWisdom on 10/07/2021 - 15:03

        Take into account that Etherium is moving to a proof of stake mechanism in the next year or so.

        • ilovefullprice on 10/07/2021 - 15:05
          +1

          Yes, some say 1 year, some say 2.

          Even with 1 year only, ETH mining should cover more than the cost of the gpu.

          • CrushJelly on 10/07/2021 - 15:23

            @ilovefullprice: POS won't be here for a while. The main issue for ETH is EIP1559.

            I'm still mining with my cards. I'll only stop if the profits are only marginally more than electricity costs.

            • ilovefullprice on 10/07/2021 - 15:31

              @CrushJelly: Use solar and use the excess electricity to mine, rather than potentially having to pay to send back the excess electricity back to the grid in the near future.

              There are also lots of electricity resellers these days offering sign-up bonuses to reduce cost.

    • johnwinkle on 10/07/2021 - 15:26

      ? crypto been getting destroyed as we speak

  • CrushJelly on 10/07/2021 - 14:49
    +2

    Although Palit make decent cards, EVGA are killing it with their RTX cards, so my vote goes to the cheaper EVGA.

    • pingMarky on 10/07/2021 - 20:43
      +1

      I had no complaints with my $950 3070, it mined hard and then another miner purchased it off me for $1550. thanks Evga.

  • Jtam01 on 10/07/2021 - 14:51
    +3

    Great seeing price reductions. Expecting the bottom to fall out of crypto and gpus.

    • KARMAAA on 10/07/2021 - 15:11
      +5

      Crypto's basically dead now and I can actually for once thank China for something good (for once) by banning mining.

      KARMAAA on 10/07/2021 - 15:11 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
      • Revrnd on 10/07/2021 - 15:18

        Just hope the flogged out crypto cards don't infiltrate the new GPU market and we have to start being wary of fakes in mainstream supply.

        It's bad enough ebay, Amazon, Wish etc. have any number of fakes floating around under various models (ex-China).

        All they need to do is essentially ultrasonic clean then refurb, reseal in new boxes and who's to know.

        • ominousPigeon on 11/07/2021 - 11:27

          Mining on your GPU doesn't affect its longevity at all, it's actually less stress on it than gaming. When mining they're always undervolted for lower thermals and power draw and since they're under a consistent load they're not thermal cycling which means there is less of a chance for cracks to appear in the solder BGA under the die or memory.

      • CrushJelly on 10/07/2021 - 15:27
        -8

        Still making $7/day before electricity costs on 3070 and $10+/day with 3080.

        Crypto isn't dead.

        • Yanoflies on 10/07/2021 - 16:28
          +2

          How are you getting $7 a day? I'm only getting 61.78 MH/s out of a 3070 FTW3 …

      • ChickenAdobo on 10/07/2021 - 16:02
        +2

        Right if I had a cent that mentioned that bitcoin is dead I will be a rich man. People been saying that for a long time now.

        • KARMAAA on 10/07/2021 - 16:07
          +2

          I mean the profitability is dead with respect to mining, I should have phrased that better. Bitcoin will never die, especially if you HODL.

      • Jeraz on 11/07/2021 - 01:48
        +7

        People are so quick to assume the market is dead because there has been a pullback. This is an emerging market known for volatility. There's a reasonably high chance that a second leg to the bull run is coming that will make the first half of 2021 look like it was a blip.

        Even in the bearish scenario, the main question in terms of GPU mining is whether or not the market will boom again before Eth 2.0. Proof of Stake is what kills GPU mining, more than anything else. EIP 1559 will have some influence in reducing profitability, but probably not as much as many seem to think.

        And if the price of Eth skyrockets - which is most definitely on the cards - then the GPU prices we are seeing now are the best you'll see for a while. Do you realise that right now, with crypto at a low point, it is still profitable to mine crypto on a GPU - even on an LHR version?

        The crypto market is on a knife's edge. What you have to ask yourself is - is that an accident? In probably the most heavily manipulated, least regulated global market on the planet, do you really think it's an accident that the price teeters on the edge of the precipice? This is a high stakes game. Big players are taking the market as low as they possibly can without killing it.

        At the end of July, the SEC has now been told they must come to a position on the regulation of cryptocurrencies. At around the same time, Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey are scheduled to hold a public discussion on Bitcoin. We can only speculate as to the nature of that discussion.

        Tesla announced they would accept Bitcoin again if it was demonstrated that Bitcoin mining is over 50% renewable based. The Bitcoin Mining council has recently released a report demonstrating this. Musk is yet to respond to this report.

        It could go either way from here, that is true. But the spring is coiled, and coiled hard. If institutions get into crypto, the market could take off like no market ever has. There are two reasons institutions have not really gotten in yet en masse - regulation concerns, and environmental concerns. Both those reasons are likely to be addressed very soon.

        The SEC (chaired by a former blockchain lecturer) is likely to be cautiously pro-crypto, and both Musk and Dorsey are known to be bullish on crypto. If Tesla accepts Bitcoin again, it will be interpreted as a green light for institutions currently restrained by ESG concerns.

        But sure, the crypto market is dead. Or, this moment in time could be the biggest opportunity of your life to miss.

        • amerh on 11/07/2021 - 01:56
          +6

          Don’t worry mate this forum is full of uneducated people who hop on band wagons I’ve noticed over the last few years very immature people that down vote you when you have an opinion!

          I agree with you bro now is the time people should invest the reason cards are dropping is because LHR and not the market. Cards still pay 5$ a day each which will easily grow over time. Even if you find a non LHR card you will see the huge price markup.

          • 1st-Amendment on 13/07/2021 - 10:33

            @amerh:

            I agree with you bro now is the time people should gamble

            FTFY

        • thestripedlion on 11/07/2021 - 03:13
          +1

          Agreed crypto market is not dead, I have never claimed it to be. I am just pointing out the obvious but also that first sentence is a bit if an attention grab too 😁 but it has also caused a bit of a divide I didn't intend.
          Looking back in time before institutions were interested in crypto. we have seen a similar situation play out where the market is poised for a "revival".

          Also thanks for the heads up about the SEC :)

          • Jtam01 on 11/07/2021 - 06:06
            +1

            @thestripedlion: Crypto looks to be on the decline in this cycle.

            My assumption is that the increase in crypto values was due to covid driving individuals looking to protect their asset values mixed in with opportunistic investors looking to make a buck on the rise. Now with major economies having a vaccine pathway and the fact governments have pumped in massive stimulus packages which protect traditional asset values the allure of crypto on this cycle is waning.

            Hold if you can afford it and wait for the next boom.

            As for gpu prices I would hope to return to msrp and potentially below (via sales and oversupply). When miners need to make a decision between continuing to mine and making minimal profits (with risk of further reductions) vs liquidating their gpus for a larger lump sum right now with no risk. Liquidating first must be very attractive.

        • trickma on 11/07/2021 - 10:41
          +3

          "Crypto is dead"

          In their mind crypto is a get rich quick scheme where you make millions overnight, no understanding of the underlying tech or philosophies that will stand the test of time.

          After the dot com bubble the phrase "the internet is dead" was also used.

          • 1st-Amendment on 13/07/2021 - 10:32
            -1

            @trickma:

            In their mind crypto is a get rich quick scheme where you make millions overnight, no understanding of the underlying tech or philosophies that will stand the test of time.

            I understand blockchain quite well, but I fail to see how a technology that anyone can build their own version of would have any scarcity required to maintain value over time? Perhaps you could enlighten us?

            • Jeraz on 13/07/2021 - 21:03
              +1

              @1st-Amendment: Are you serious?

              That's pretty much the same logic as saying: 'Hey that program is just written in C++, why would it have any value when someone else can just make their own program?'.

              There are different programs with different utility, and there are similar programs that attempt to do similar things. Same applies for blockchain. If you understand blockchain, then you must surely understand that it is a development technology. Of course you can copy something that already exists - that's capitalism, baby. If you do a good job, and market it well, you might even have some success. Good luck to you.

              • 1st-Amendment on 14/07/2021 - 10:30

                @Jeraz:

                That's pretty much the same logic as saying: 'Hey that program is just written in C++, why would it have any value when someone else can just make their own program?'.

                If C++ was just a piece of code that sat on your computer never actually being used then that is accurate. Unlike C++, BTC has zero utility so how can it have value? Can you tell me what you use BTC a for today?

        • 1st-Amendment on 13/07/2021 - 10:39
          -2

          If institutions get into crypto, the market could take off like no market ever has.

          Lol, if only your uncle was you aunty eh?
          Institutions already are in Crypto, they build their own blockchain for their own purposes unaffected by internet ponzi schemes.

          But sure, the crypto market is dead. Or, this moment in time could be the biggest opportunity of your life to miss.

          The standard catch cry of the ponzi seller. Thanks for clearing that up.

          • Jeraz on 13/07/2021 - 20:46
            +2

            @1st-Amendment: Think what you will, it makes no difference to me at all. I'm just giving my perspective. No need to be a dick about it.

            There's a very significant difference between a few institutions dipping their fingers in and genuine insititutional confidence about an asset class. A great many institutions cannot currently invest until there is regulatory and ESG clarity. Many more will not. It doesn't take much imagination to see that situation shifting with time.

            We'll see where things go from here. If you actually read what I wrote, I didn't suggest that the scenario I outlined was definite. Just possible, perhaps probable. I very specifically mentioned that things could go either way. I don't have a crystal ball. My whole point was just that people are too quick to assume crypto is dead, just because there has been a pullback.

            I don't care if you buy crypto. You do you. You don't even know what I coins I hold, and if I wanted to shill some ponzi coin then I wouldn't be writing unnecessarily long replies to a random comment on an OzBargain forum. It's not like many people are even going to see it.

            Oh wow, I got seven likes. SafeOzBargain is going to the moon!

            • 1st-Amendment on 14/07/2021 - 10:26

              @Jeraz:

              My whole point was just that people are too quick to assume crypto is dead, just because there has been a pullback.

              Sure. Some people think it's dead, others think it's going to take over the world. The most likely outcome is that the game continues until you run out of suckers, then it collapses. Because that's how every ponzi scheme always works.

              • Jeraz on 14/07/2021 - 15:52
                +1

                @1st-Amendment: There is no difference between fiat and crypto that makes one a Ponzi scheme and the other not. Your logic also applies to fiat. Money is only ever worth something because we agree it is worth something. Fiat is only valuable to the extent that you trust the relevant government with monetary policy.

                Cryptocurrencies can be either inflationary or deflationary, depending on the way they are coded. Bitcoin is guaranteed to have a finite supply, the availability of which is guaranteed to reduce over time.

                The one thing you can guarantee for fiat is that it will decline in purchasing value over the long term due to inflation. This has happened with literally every single fiat currency, although some suffer more than others. The nature of our fiat currency, combined with our fractional reserve banking system, result in inflation being built into the current financial system.

                You're wrong about this, but again, I really don't care. You do you. I'm just replying in case anyone reading thinks you are right.

                • Jeraz on 14/07/2021 - 18:07
                  +1

                  @Jeraz: Also, for anyone reading all this and thinking of buying some crypto, now is probably not a good time. It's pretty likely things will go down before they come up again.

                  At the moment the crypto market is mostly a way to speculate on decentralised blockchain technology, but remember that at any one point in time prices don't really reflect the potential of the actual technology. Prices just reflect current market psychology. 1st-Amendment is a good example of where current market psychology is at.

                  If you want to buy in at any point, it might be smart to wait until negative market psychology reaches a crescendo. In my opinion, that point might be coming soon. When the SEC makes a decision, it will likely scare out a good portion of remaining retail investors in the short term.

                  • 1st-Amendment on 15/07/2021 - 10:55

                    @Jeraz:

                    At the moment the crypto market is mostly a way to speculate on decentralised blockchain technology,

                    No it isn't. If I want to use blockchain technology I can build my own without having to participate in the cryptocurrency ponzi scheme. No amount of change in the value of BTC or ETH or other shitcoin changes this.

                    All the major cryptocurrencies are a scam that speculates that more suckers will buy in at a higher price than you did. That's it. Once you run out of new suckers the whole house of cards falls over.
                    Now that might not happen this year or next, but it will happen sooner or later, you just have to make sure you get out before the game runs out of suckers.

                • 1st-Amendment on 15/07/2021 - 10:48

                  @Jeraz:

                  There is no difference between fiat and crypto that makes one a Ponzi scheme and the other not.

                  Lol and here is where your scam is revealed for what it is. Real currency is backed by a government, with police and military to back it. And it is currently used universally, by you and me and everyone reading this. That is completely different to your ponzi scheme.

                  Cryptocurrency is not used by anyone, not even its fanboys use it as a currency which is all you need to know about how useful it is.

                  Bitcoin is guaranteed to have a finite supply, the availability of which is guaranteed to reduce over time.

                  How is this good? In economics scarcity usually means bad, but Crypto nerds were never good at economics…

                  The one thing you can guarantee for fiat is that it will decline in purchasing value over the long term due to inflation

                  Again you didn't explain how this is bad.Inflationary currency promotes economic growth by keeping money in circulation as demonstrated largest gain in peace and prosperity in human history around about the time that global currencies changed from reserve to fiat. Yet crypto nerds who suddenly learned what inflation is yesterday somehow think this is bad and should be replaced with something that has no demonstrable value that sounds a lot like the old and inferior reserve system. What awesome logic…

                  You're wrong about this

                  Because you said so.
                  It's a simple question for the reader, Is cryptocurrency used for anything? If you can't answer that then it's a scam.

                  • Jeraz on 15/07/2021 - 11:19

                    @1st-Amendment: Honestly, it is best for me if you keep thinking this way. The lower prices go, the better the opportunity I get.

                    If you somehow think that a decline in the purchasing power of your savings is a positive, then you're either stupid or a troll, and in either case there really isn't any point having a discussion.

                    • 1st-Amendment on 15/07/2021 - 11:29

                      @Jeraz:

                      If you somehow think that a decline in the purchasing power of your savings is a positive, then you're either stupid or a troll

                      As I said, crypto nerds don't understand basic economics so of course you would think that.
                      We know that mild inflation is a net positive because it has been demonstrated over the last 100 years of the greatest economic growth in human history. "But Bruh inflation bad!" - said every crypto kook ever without ever explaining why…

  • Canberralad92 on 10/07/2021 - 14:52
    +4

    Where is angry GPU guy now??

    • scud70 on 10/07/2021 - 15:31

      I must have missed this… :( unless it was me on a drunken rampage!!!

  • kml22 on 10/07/2021 - 14:56

    Please put preorder in title.

  • KARMAAA on 10/07/2021 - 14:57
    +2

    Man I bought my 3060 Ti for around this price back in November. Prices are coming down! HOOORAY!

    • reloxation on 10/07/2021 - 16:27

      3060 Ti was released in December…

      • KARMAAA on 10/07/2021 - 16:36
        +2

        December or November, I can't remember, either way I got it around this price. We're in lockdown, every day feels the same… losing track of time.

        • reloxation on 10/07/2021 - 16:39

          Haha, can relate to that. All the best

  • ShotzzXII on 10/07/2021 - 15:10
    +6

    Holddddd

  • seamonkey on 10/07/2021 - 15:12
    -7

    Guys. I'm blue balling here. My wifes boyfriend gave me permission to buy. Is that enough?

    • SexySloth on 10/07/2021 - 15:26
      +6

      What's the point of dumb comments like these? Of course if Chad has given you permission you can purchase it.

      • seamonkey on 10/07/2021 - 15:57
        +1

        I appreciate you. :)

        • ilovefullprice on 10/07/2021 - 16:10

          That’s a social media ethically nice response!

  • minatosensei on 10/07/2021 - 15:19

    From memory this was PLE's introductory price for this particular card.
    It's $999 atm.

    • [Deactivated] on 10/07/2021 - 15:28
      -6

      PLE needs to get with the times.

      • CrushJelly on 10/07/2021 - 15:40
        +8

        PLE has been the only retailer to sell their EVGA stock at close to MSRP the entire time.

        • [Deactivated] on 10/07/2021 - 15:49

          Not worried about the entire time, worried about now, as in today. See that price listed above? A lot closer to MSRP than PLE's $999 eh? So my comment stands, they need to get with it. If a no name vendor can drop the price they can too.

          • EshaySlayer on 10/07/2021 - 15:57

            @[Deactivated]: The card listed above is now matching PLE for $999.

          • bumluffa on 10/07/2021 - 17:21
            +3

            @[Deactivated]: Yeah sure your comment stands, but it's completely lacking in context so utterly useless. Enjoy your participation award cookie.

            PLE has been a beacon of light amongst retailers during this series launch.

            • [Deactivated] on 10/07/2021 - 17:37
              -1

              @bumluffa: Beacon of light amongst retailers, for who you? Some context you got yourself there pal lol. More like opinion as such?

              Before you go pulling google facts and figures out of your a$$, I just want you to know I was comparing the $732 price to PLE's $999, in relation to msrp, there's some context for you. Unless you need help further understanding the term context, can we please move forward?

              Make sure you pat yourself on the back for that one, genius.

  • BargainKen on 10/07/2021 - 15:36

    Think the price went up

  • JMxoxo on 10/07/2021 - 15:44

    Man the pricing is so all over the place at the moment. Pretty funny to see, still hoping and waiting to see some EVGA or EK/Asus WB cards appear

  • scottySK on 10/07/2021 - 22:27
    +1

    Price now $758

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