Just noticed theses are $129 at JB Hifi,
Battery one also available: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/google-nest-protect-smoke…
Very annoyed as I just bought 3 @ Officeworks last week for $149.
UPDATE: GoodGuys have matched the $129 so with the TODAY code it comes down to $116.10 for both wired and battery
Care to elaborate?
I had mine installed about 2 years ago, my sparky pointed out it wasn't compliant with the Australian standards and he ended up double insulating the cable, it took him like 20 seconds, its a very easy fix to make it compliant.
Anyone know if Good Guys price match with competitor?
More like parent company
Meaning they do match it?
If Officeworks stock it just do a price beat (5%)
https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/search?q=Goo…
Or Bunnings to get 10% price beat
Yes the Bunnings price beat is the best!
Don't think Bunnings stock anymore.. or at least haven't seen any stock in Victoria for a while.
I've got 2 $20 concierge credit from Good Guys that I would like to use hence why I asked.
Are these any good? Need to replace existing ones
Mine has been fine, but doesn’t have very good connectivity with smart home platforms. It seems to be neglected by Google. There’s no integration with Google Home, Home Assistant or IFTTT (or HomeKit). So it’s one of my only devices that sits on a (virtual) lonely island by itself.
Hi mate, can you expand on this? Which app does it actually use/integrate with?
It just uses its own Nest app, I believe the app is also used for Nest Camera and Thermostats.The cameras and thermostats have also been integrated into the Google Home app, but the Protect has not yet (and with no timeline on if and when it will). There are integrations with HomeBridge (an open source app that can be run on a Raspberry Pi), and HomeBridge exposes the devices into Apple HomeKit.
There used to be much more integrations, but Google killed off the ‘Work with Nest’ program.
I believe it can be made to work with smart home hubs like SmartThings and Hubitat with a bit of tinkering.
Thanks for sharing, I have SmartThings, but not a Hubitat. It looks like the users on the SmartThings forum had an old (no longer available) Nest account. I sadly only have a Google account. The fact it works with HomeBridge and Hubitat gives me hope it can be implemented in Home Assistant eventually.
@Hargain Bunter: Nest is coming to smartthings but for some reason not in all regions yet. Hopefully soon. It's available in the US recently for those on the new nest login.
Google home will eventually take over the nest app like they have with the Google wifi app. It will eventually fall all under the Google home app.
@EnergicAU: The Nest Protects weren’t one of the devices listed as being exposed to SmartThings (even in the US). I agree that Google Home will take over the Nest app, and the Nest app will be decommissioned; hopefully the Protect is ported over before that and they doesn’t end up in Google Graveyard.
Do you need a sparky to replace an existing smoke alarm?
Yes if it's wired
Ok thanks, mine is wired so was thinking if It's just simple as unplugging/plugging using the existing wires.
Cue the insurance will be void if your house burns down because you left the toast in the toaster
@10101010101: That said, if you install it yourself and you can survive one year without your toaster murdering you, I think you'll be ok insurance wise.
In WA at least, I'm pretty sure you only need to retain the record of a certified install for one year.
@mady123: @MerlinKlendatu @mady123 Hmmmm, I had a quick look and couldn't find anything so now I'm not sure where I read that. I think maybe I read it on a certificate after a smoke alarm was installed. I think the certificate was left in the circuit breaker box and it had something on it saying 'don't dispose for one year'….but I could be very, very wrong. Sooo, I would also like a source?
Not for battery version atleast
Nice! I got Bunnings to price beat David Jones by 10% for the battery ones. Officeworks are tight - the website needs to list the exact product number so they wouldn't pricebeat DJ. Need to get some more - quite impressed by them. If you factor in cost of a decent normal alarm ($30) plus the cost of a carbon monoxide sensor ($30) then the extra cost for a smart alarm isn't too bad.
DJs have it cheaper than $129?
$107 but seem out of stock
I'll get one if there's a google T-Rex putting out my fire!
Actually make it two.
I bought two for 149 each a few weeks ago from jbhifi, still in box as sparky is yet to install these or next week.
It's pretty easy to install without needing a sparky.
Is the wired version and part of a build.
Oh right fair enough
Note the battery version isn't compliant with the QLD legislation (Applicable from Jan 1 2022 for landlords / properties being sold, and 2027 for owner occupiers).
tried to read, sounds like NSW ok?
As far as I'm aware other states haven't introduced similar rules. These rules were in response to a series of multiple fatalities in QLD due to house fires several years ago and are only now about to become enforceable requirements.
But the Nest Protect alarms are interconnected aren't they? If one triggers they all trigger wirelessly without needing wifi as well (diff protocol or frequency for interconnect). Presume this meets the Qld standard?
Wired versions isn't either, the 240v lead isnt double insulated it's just single like a 12v automotive cable.
At least it can detect the fire that it causes…
Have to wonder if they should even be on sale in QLD then.
The battery ones, yeah for sure, though technically they're compliant until Jan 2022, or 2027 if existing owner occupier, but given these are a 10 year investment it's more of a case of it being a bad value purchase than being illegal yet.
VIC also has restrictions on batery powered ones
All buildings built after 1 August 1997 must have hard-wired smoke alarms with a battery back-up. Buildings built before that date can have a battery-powered smoke alarm.
source
In QLD once the new restrictions apply they need to be 10 year non-removable no matter when the building was built if battery, or hardwired with battery backup if the building is new or has ever had wired smoke alarms.
The Nest battery units have removable batteries so don't meet that requirement.
"OK Google, why is there smoke coming out of my butt?"
Worth holding out for the Gen 2 version?
This one isn't the second gen?
I thought the first gen was prior to Google buyout of Nest.
This is 2nd gen.
A number of retailers are now price matching - Bing Lee, Harvey Norman ($128) and Good Guys.
Best deal is Good Guys @$129 less 10% with code TODAY = $116.10 for pickup.
Sweeten a little further with another 3.5% with Cashrewards (seem to be endorsing the code).
Nice. Had been meaning to pick up an additional for home. Now I have :)
I have this at home, couple of things not mentioned on here, which I think are awesome :
Only thing is that it has its own Google nest app, and it's not part of Google home. But seriously, it doesn't matter at all.
I'm interested although the no google home will annoy the crap out of me, just wanted to know have they fixed the non-compliant wires to be double insulated? some reviews from a long time ago say they weren't.
My home is completely voice activated with google home and hubitat hub.
I never found the need to have the smoke alarm connected/monitored or part of automation.
Why? alarm goes off, get out.
You are not home? Nest app notifies you.
Regarding double insulation wires, why is double insulated required?
I would say this is a regulation that needs to be met, and it may be something that insurance companies may use as an excuse if the house burns down and they don’t want to pay out, some sparkies will ‘fix’ the wire as a comment above points out and some sparkies will refuse to install it as some reviews mention.
Looks neat.
I think you mean CO though, Carbon monoxide - not CO2
Handy for any people with dogey gas heaters
yes, correct, CO.
Thanks for pointing that out.
If you are running homebridge with the nest plugin the IOS home app will show the smoke, CO, and occupancy sensors. I use the occupancy sensor to trigger an automation to turn lights off. I also use them as a rudimentary security alarm I get notifications of movement when nobody is home. If you have the nest thermostat you can have it turn your heater off when smoke or CO is detected.
should i buy wired or battery version for Melbourne Victoria? i read online that wired once are hard to install. any suggestion?
What are you currently using? Just replace like for like
building new house
New build will require wired versions most likely under law
By law it must be wired for all new houses. Your builder can advise
Bought 2 battery versions from Bunnings Ashfield. They had 3 in stock. I think they had wired versions too.
Price beat 10% for 116$
Feb 2021 mfr date.
Do these have double insulated wires yet? There was an issue with non-compliance a few years ago.