Disputing Disabled Parking Fine Query

You crafty folks of OzBargain.

Long story short, my fiancé borrowed her colleagues car to come home during her work lunch break to take medication for a condition. The car's owner has a disability and a valid disability permit that is displayed. Without putting too much thought in to it, my fiancé then proceeded to park in a disabled spot and subsequently got fined by a police officer who saw her.

Now, she has no disability, so yeah, the fine is valid…albeit extremely steep. Yes, she was wrong… just trying to figure out if there's a way to soften the blow.

Is there any rationale/argument that you can think of that may help her chances of getting off?

Cheers folks.

Edit. Thanks everyone for your replies.

Comments

    • -2

      Actually China deals with these Idiots better .
      They can help keeping some rich dude healthy with their organs .

      • Totally (to the OP's thread) irrelevant post, I'll continue the racist tinge from another perspective

        In (mainland C, I assume was meant) China if the girl or her associates had power/influence/money perhaps there would have been no ticket, or it would conveniently disappear.

        • Completely irrelevant, yes. @popsiee does seem a bit deranged with all their odd, trolling and unpublished comments. Account probably deserves a permaban. But it's not a racist claim and is unfortunately true. See here

    • +13

      It's not revenue raising.

      It's teaching someone that breaking a law that parking where you cannot legally park has consequences, especially considering that this law is designed to help folks worse off than the lawbreaker.

      What if someone had keyed the car to teach her a lesson and a policeman had fined that person - would that be revenue raising?

    • +16

      Shouldn't the police be revenue raising elsewhere?

      How is this revenue raising? Making sure disabled parking spots are available for disabled people is literally a noble thing to do.

      • +6

        It's probably the most legitimate fine that an officer could even hand out.

    • +9

      It's not ReVeNuE rAiSiNg… it's a "do stupid things, pay the stupid price" toll.

    • You may be able to get in an out of a car without being able to fully open the door, as is normal in ordinary parking zones. It may not even cause you extreme pain to walk even a short distance, or be at risk of falling in the roadway, and I doubt you need to take a wheelchair out of the boot.

      Others can't.

      Still. You're right. How about we don't fine those who decide their short-term haste is more important than other people's ability to travel. We could instead "normalise" their need for a permit.

      How are your kneecaps today?

    • Shouldn't people not be taking up disability parking spots?

      If we didn't have people like OP maybe police could do other work…

  • +9

    i'm interested in what the real story is

    • probably op's family has disability permit which is on the car and they have abused.

      Had someone tell me they had a permit for their grandfather on there. They claimed they never parked in disability spots but would get free street parking at metered spots thanks to the permit.

      OP was not only greedy but making the life hard for people who actualy need a disability spot.

  • +4

    just trying to figure out if there's a way to soften the blow.

    A box of chocolates.

    • +3

      Tube of KY?

  • +2

    … just trying to figure out if there's a way to soften the blow

    Of course - tell her that it's better that the cops gave her a ticket instead of someone assuming (rightly this time!) she looks able-bodied and keying the car.

  • +9

    "Long story short, my fiancé borrowed her colleagues car to come home "

    OK, so her home/unit/villa does not have a driveway/garage/visitors spot, but a conveniently located disabled spot on the street?

    Me thinks, as mentioned by many here, there is more to the story.

    Anyway, it appears that she got her just desserts.

  • +7

    Simple

    Get a new fiancé

    your problem is solved in more ways than one.

    • +6

      Wouldn’t be the first time she’s parked illegally, red flag red flag

      • +1

        Certainly seems unlikely that she would be caught in this circumstance if it was a one time thing.

      • +1

        Yep. Displays a selfish IDGAF attitude.

        Knowingly trying to use the sticker which she is not entitled to use suggests a manipulative/exploitative tendency. ie someone who’ll try and grift to their advantage/ screw over others

  • +6

    Soften the blow by taking away her car keys and confine her to a wheelchair for a week

    • You could spread the repayments over 3 months or create a GoFundMe campaign and post it here for us to contribute.

      • +1

        Yeaaa.. nah.

  • take it up the a** and cop it sweet

  • +9

    It sounds very unlikely she would have been caught if this is the first time. Perhaps this going home and parking in the disabled spot is a regular occurrence and someone who knows she is not disabled has dobbed her in?

  • +7

    Is there any rationale/argument that you can think of that may help her chances of getting off

    Yes, cut her legs off and buy her a wheelchair!!

    I wish the police were more proactive and fined more people using the disabled parking spots and not being entitled to do so.

  • +11

    Now, she has no disability
    the fine is valid
    I'm not contesting that it wasn't a poor choice.
    when confronted about it she told them that she wasn't.

    HAHAHAHA… Pay the fine.

  • Then at best the example should not have been included or should have been reworded, as it is not a relevant example to the situation being discussed IMO.

    • Point taken. :)

  • +1

    Proved as being a 'reasonable' poster indeed IMO (no sarcasm intended, nor was the anonymous neg from me)

  • +6

    Without putting too much thought in to it, my fiancé then proceeded to park in a disabled spot

    To me it looks like more than enough thought had gone into finding a disabled parking spot when your fiancé could have easily parked it at a normal spot. Done the crime so it is time to do the time.

    P. S. I see you too have put some though in and created a new ID to post this knowing how bad the backlash would be.

    • +21

      Pam, it might be time for your medication.

        • +11

          The OP doesn't need advice on how to avoid a fine. The OP needs a lesson on disability awareness.

          • +2

            @Switchblade88: Pamster could be “mentally different”… always a zero sum game.

            • @SF3: There is a difference between someone who is mentally disabled, and a jerk… Unfortunately neither have stickers to identify them, so I'll leave the audience to decide

              • -3

                @Switchblade88: plenty of jerks here, easy to recognise. Dont need to be mentally deficient to see that, its obvious. They roam in packs

        • +2

          thats the best advice you can come up with for OP?

          Your great pearl of wisdom for OP was to commit perjury by going to court and lying about the circumstances.

          And you wonder why people troll you.

  • +7

    Also if she had respect for her disabled “friend”, she would have known not to do this

    • +4

      Actually, that's a good point. Her friend should be careful who she loans it to. The permits are hard to get, but VERY easy to have taken away. The fact that she's already been caught using it could mean the permit gets cancelled…

      • -5

        No way any authority will be doing this. Letting a friend to drive a car is a good act. Requiring the car owner to take responsibility for the wrong act of the driver is too much to ask for.

        • +2

          Being a holder of a disability permit, I'm very aware of the rules, and ramifications if they're broken. But go ahead and tell me I'm wrong…

        • -1

          "Requiring the car owner to take responsibility for the wrong act of the driver"

          "I lent my car to a friend and my credit card was in it. He bought a $2000 computer and now the bank want me to pay! Requiring me to take responsibilty for the actions of my friend is too much to ask for…

      • So it's not like if another person drives your car and proceeds to get a speeding fine where you can dispute you were not the driver at the time and was not your responsibility for said infringement?

        • +2

          No. It's up to the permit holder to ensure it's being used correctly. Permits are really only meant to be placed on the dash when you park, not left there all the time - it's too easy to forget it's there and then other people use the car with the permit still there, and get fined. I don't know what the rules are in each state, but I know in the ACT they take it pretty seriously. They may not cancel the permit in every single case, but they make it pretty clear that they can if they want to!

          • +1

            @ChocStrawberries: That makes sense I suppose - having to take the permit with you when not in use.

          • @ChocStrawberries: I've never seen a permit that is not stuck to the windscreen

            • @justwii: Are you looking into the glovebox of every single car you see ?

            • @justwii: You're meant to keep it in the glovebox, or in your bag, until you park. Then you put it on your dash or stick it to the windscreen.

    • What if she drove to pick up her disabled friend?
      Why would the cops fine someone who has a permit just because the disabeld person is not with them?

      • +1

        They wouldn't, if it was proven that the driver was telling the truth. They have ways of checking who the permit belongs to, and can contact the permit holder to confirm the driver's story.

        If you're using a permit correctly, you have nothing to worry about, right?

      • An admission of guilt as described by the OP is more than sufficient - no further investigation required.

  • +1

    just trying to figure out if there's a way to soften the blow.

    that's why you're on ozBargain

    • +1

      There are lots of people here with experience and knowledge, it will be hard not to tap on this resource. I know, op will get roasted by people here but if op can get a few pieces of useful advice, it will be worthwhile.

      • +2

        ok ~ guess the joke of "being on ozBargain" to "soften the financial blow" was too deep of a joke :)

        like if the fine was $300 then find $150 of saving on ozBargain :) its technically 50% off

    • Op may have another account, but using the old account may lead others to dig more info about him and can fuel more speculations.

  • +2

    just trying to figure out if there's a way to soften the blow

    Pay half half of the fine with your fiancé?

    • Pay all the fine to win her ultimate affection to show your unconditional love.

  • get her to pay the fine

    otherwise one day you will find her "parking" and she will know you are a soft touch

  • Quality shit post

  • Long story short, my fiancé borrowed her colleagues car

    Like properly borrowed? Or 'I was going to give it back!' borrowed? Because that would explain the cops.

  • +1

    Stiff sh*t - she did the wrong thing and knew she was doing so. Pay the fine.

  • +1

    Probably her brain is. What's on earth make she thinks she can do that.

  • I wonder if op's wife borrowed their colleagues ferrari with a top speed of 330kph would they do 330kph in a 100 zone, just because.

    • Well this doesn't really fit as its not legal for anyone to do the 330kph.

      • Just like its not legal for an able bodied person to park in a disabled car spot ;)

        • In your Ferrari scenario you are implying that it is legal for the owner of the car to do 330kmh. In the case of disability stickers, the owner of the sticker can legally use the benefits of that sticker.

  • Your fiance should have acted disabled when getting off the car. Bad place bad timing

  • +1

    Time for a new fiancé…

  • +1

    Congrats on getting to the front page. Mission accomplished

  • +3

    This is one of those cases I hope no leniency is found. One of the few examples on here where there is no doubt the full fine is well deserved. Interestingly my younger brother has had a disabled permit for 3years now (leg foot and knee damage after a head-on with drunk driver), for short distances you would never know as he is super fit and 40 and usually has no visible effect on his movement. Yet not once has a cop ever asked him about the permit.

  • -1

    I suppose you could ask the disabled person to write a stat dec that the car was returned to a disabled parking spot so the disabled person could get it back easily.

    • -1

      I think that is called adding insult to injury. I agree it's a good idea, but only because the friend will get a good idea of who not to trust.

  • This is the most troll in a troll post I've seen on this site

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