Cheapest as per camelx3.
Currently $889 at JB Hifi
Comes with Homebase v1.
Camera resolution is 1080p compared to 2K for the newer version - 2 Pro but it costs $1249 for a set of four.
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Which is pretty good if you compare it to similar products like Arlo and Google Nest which require subscription to store the videos.
Google Nest offers a measly 3 hours of local storage.
Arlo doesn't require subscription. I'm using Arlo with 512 Gb sd card, I don't subscribe.
Arlo pro cameras don’t take card. Why don’t you check once.
@hashtagbargain: Mate, I'm using arlo and using the sd card, I cancelled the subscription after first year, because only discount in the first year. I'm not lying.
@hashtagbargain: Here is the screenshot in my Arlo app showing that I'm using local storage: https://imgur.com/gallery/odyohzV
@hashtagbargain: https://kb.arlo.com/1202593/How-do-I-view-Arlo-videos-saved-…
This is interesting though - "Local storage to an SD card cannot be used on its own as a substitute for cloud recording."
128gb is plenty. I got 6-8 months of footages with 5 cams connected to a homebase.
mates, u don't understand the purpose of battery powered cameras
What are you hoping to record? It only records when triggered and the duration depends on how long there's activity - which is also affected by the size of the field of view. A lot of my recordings are only 5 to 10 seconds in duration with a long event about 30 seconds. Mine are usually a courier dropping off parcels, my dogs running past camera or my children coming around when I'm out (handy to know!!). I tend to delete all of those on a regular basis so hardly using up any storage after about 4 months of use. Even if I didn't I probably wouldn't have accumulated 30 mins of recording (probably much less). So it really depends on your specific circumstances. In high traffic areas and large fields of view you are likely to have more recordings, which will use up more storage and lead to camera batteries running down quicker. However, it's easy to delete meaningless recordings. My cameras are focused on access points to my house rather than panoramic views of my block and the street. So YMMV but I don't have any problems with storage - far from it.
As others have mentioned, the recording is only triggered by events…. I think you've completely missed the point of them.
So unless someone is standing outside in your front garden, waving their hands around for 16 hours a day, I reckon this is probably fine.
is this part of their black friday/cyber monday sale or will it go even lower?
Damn that's cheap!
No, this one is better
Summary of differences ? Seems unclear when they both look to be older models with HomeBase v1
i.e. E vs 2 vs Pro vs 2C vs 2C Pro vs Plus?
pay more for the version without built-in spotlights?
T8807CD3 $699 (Amazon deal) vs T8833CD2 $475.32 (Supercheap Auto deal) both 4-pack 1080p
Quick analysis of the product listings themselves without going into reviews or third-party articles:
- The cheaper deal had the same infrared night vision capability with an added built-in spotlight and a slightly higher IP67 rating on the cameras.
+ Amazon listing appears to have the 365-day 13400mAh(?) battery versions compared to the 6-month 6700mAh battery cameras?
Pay $223.68 more for less features?
Both include the hold 10-seconds button on the camera that automatically wipes its video storage from the base station itself
The cheaper Supercheap Auto deal seemed to be consistent with the higher model eufyCam 2C Pro listed on JB Hi-Fi, same photo as other retailers… Specs also do not line up with information from other sources (likely due to old model specs not consistent with newer refreshes, maybe localised model numbers, maybe the older 2C spotlight model (1080p) being cleared vs the newer 2C Pro refresh)
The more expensive amazon deal could potentially be the "eufyCam" base versions; however, the specs do not line up with the current first-party comparison table on eufyCam anker.
2K is a conflated term that could also refer to 1080p. The 2K comparison in this case is 2304 x 1296 pixels (2K) compared to 1920 x 1080 pixels (2K). Let alone 4K 3840 x 2160 pixels and 4K 4096 x 2160
I’ve had this system for a year, got it during last black Friday sale. Solid system, never failed. Connect your router with sim back up on a UPS and technically you will have no outage until the UPS runs dry.
Doesn't this have the problem where if I can get to a camera and hold reset, it'll wipe the entire system?
Yup all Eufy cameras do and the company isn’t doing anything to fix it.
What’s this about? So you get access to one of the cameras and you can wipe the entire system?
Yes.
Someone put this up and it killed it for me.
A major flaw.
https://communitysecurity.eufylife.com/t/major-flaw-delete-h…
Only if it can pair to the Homebase. If you have any DMZ sent up you can block that call, still ridiculous work-around to stop people stealing my camera.
@TogTogTogTog: Interesting, is there any way pair with the Homebase and block that call? Or is it technically impossible.
@pilotg2: Technically possible. Scan the traffic/call between the two devices and filter it out via your router.
If I can do it with RF blinds I can do it with a digital call lol.
I have this set, which I bought Amazon Prime day sales. Didn't set up straight away but all cameras are still running on initial charge - one still showing 5 bars (out of 5), 2 showing 4 bars and 1 showing 3 bars. The one showing 3 bars is constantly being triggered from my dogs around that side of the house. I'll be moving it when I have to re-charge. The cameras aren't that smart in determining human movement vs animals and can also be triggered by plants moving in the wind or moths.
Another issue is the delay at times in camera being activated - resulting in some or rarely, all of the action of interest not being recorded.
The main issue anyone should consider with these is your likely WiFi connectivity. The cameras can only be placed where they can communicate with your home network. This makes it difficult to install cameras at all points around your house if you only have a single access WiFi point (e.g. just a router), especially if you have a large double-brick house like me. I have a mesh network and still have issues with where I can place cameras but haven't tried re-positioning the mesh network nodes. I just did an initial quick set-up of the Eufy cameras and will optimise as and when I need to re-charge each of the cameras.
On the plus side it does a pretty good job of monitoring around my house, it's very easy to set-up and the battery life of the cameras is excellent - but the more a camera is triggered the quicker battery will run down. No surprises there!
The app is okay and when security is activated, I get notifications on my phone anytime there's an "event" - so long as the network is working. I can also use any of the cameras to look at live action, which is handy if I want to check around the house while I'm away.
Thanks for the detailed review. Great stuff.
can i ask how much did you get yours for?
I paid $851.84 in Prime Day sale this year, which was great at the time. $699 is even better….
This makes it difficult to install cameras at all points around your house if you only have a single access WiFi point (e.g. just a router), especially if you have a large double-brick house like me. I have a mesh network and still have issues with where I can place cameras
I think you’ll find that the cameras talk directly to the base station and not your router. So whether you have a lone router or a mesh wifi makes no difference to the eufy cameras. If you want better coverage perhaps you should consider a second base station.
Thanks
Easiest way to do this is possibly the Door bell cam that goes on special every now and then, they come with BS for around $200 ish which is around the same $ you'd expect to pay for an additional camera.
I bought the doorbell and Homebase V2 so I just want 4 standalone cameras. Anyone know if a pack of 4 without a Homebase is likely to go on sale?
Never did before.
So I got excited by this deal but thought of reading reviews first and now I am not sure anymore.
https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/anker-eufy-wire-fr…
ozb > productreview
Firstly, you need good WiFi coverage in the areas you want to put cameras. If you don't then you could beef up your WiFi coverage in those locations with a mesh network or wireless access points or a router with better WiFi (if your ISP allows you).
Secondly, the battery life of the cameras will vary depending on how often they're triggered and how long they record for. If your cameras are in high traffic areas, with large fields of view (greater potential to be triggered) then battery life will be much shorter than the 12 months claimed - possibly significantly shorter. Mine are quite focused and other than one that gets regularly triggered each night by my dogs moving around, I expect to average the claimed 12 months battery life.
Thirdly, there can be delays in recordings starting that result in part of the activity being missed. Camera positioning can minimise the impact of this.
Finally, I can't comment about the longer term reliability of the cameras as I've only been using for 4 months. So far, so good but that may change. I'll be happy if I get 5 years - but tech improvements may make me upgrade before then.
The bottom line - if you don't have good WiFi and/or you expect cameras be be triggered often and/or have lengthy recordings because of lingering activity then wire-free cameras are probably not for you. YMMV but I reckon they're ok for what I need. Could they be better? Sure…
Another great reply from you! Take my upvote.
I did a bit of a writeup what echos what bean_counter is saying here in a bit more depth: 11 Reasons to Avoid Wireless Battery Cameras
They have their place, but they can have a lot of problems too. If you are OK with those problems, then go ahead and enjoy them. But unfortunately, most people find out about those problems after they have purchased, and wouldn't have purchased them had they known.
It's all about knowing the limitations upfront and incorporating that into your buying decisions.
If you don't then you could beef up your WiFi coverage in those locations with a mesh network or wireless access points or a router with better WiFi
Incorrect info unfortunately. The eufy cameras communicate with the home base, so their distance from your wifi router is meaningless. What matters is their distance to the hub. If you have coverage issues you should consider a second hub.
I stand corrected. Thanks. I thought it was using WiFi network.
So if you have a second Homebase, I presume it it still needs to be connected somehow to your router.
We’ll if you put the home base in middle of a house say single storey 200sqm house and put on each corner of house (let’s just say a square house) then will be suffice?
I mean they can’t expect the camera to be not working if it’s less than 2M from he base - understand limitations with walls etc but it should what be at least 20 metres to home base to be usable or something like that ?
Bought it 2 years ago around the same price but I notice the battery is starting to die.
Can these home base units take more cameras?
According to the website, both homebases support up to 16 cameras and 34 sensors
Do the cameras communicate by wifi with the home base unit or with the house wifi router? I ask because my router is at one end of the house, but I could connect the home base unit to the network via a powerline adapter in the centre of the house, and so have the home base unit closer to all the cameras.
They communicate via Wifi to their homebase via a hidden wifi network, not directly to your wifi router.
Can somone recommend wired doorbell compatible with this set?
Can it be easily remove from the mounting kit? Going to place 2 in front and worried that they can be stolen
Yep, can easily be pinched. Just held in place by a magnet.
The cameras in this kit are probably easily removed but they have an anti-theft alarm you can set…. "A 100-decibel siren sounds with the volume of a jackhammer if the always-active accelerometer detects eufyCam is being forcibly removed."
They come with two kinds of mounts - magnetic and screw ins (mount has a screw that the camera goes into). I've installed screw mounts outdoors, which are still easy to remove if someone wanted to. However, the cameras and homebase alarm (fairly loud) and you get a notification on your phone if camera is moved, unscrewed or its position is changed.
Have a video of me unscrewing a Eufy 2C with just a flick of the fingers.
The problem is these wireless battery cameras are designed to be easily removed so they can be easily charged, but of course it compromises their physical security.
Entry kit only has the additional door/window sensor which isn't that much.
1080p just isn't high enough res in 2021. I have some 2k eufy cams which are great but still just dont seem to capture the fidelity one would really want from home security, so 1080p is just off the table for me
You want a 12 MP security camera if you want the best fidelity.
So it really depends on what "best" is. During the day for a general overview, sure, 12 MP would probably be best.
Looking at a distant target? My 2MP (1080p) with a 64mm lens will do much better.
At night? My 1080p with a 1/1.8" sensor will outperform a 12MP.
Have to have a lot of cameras covering a house or something? You may not need 12MP everywhere, its a lot of bandwidth to handle and size to store. So a mix of higher quality cameras and lower quality ones in smaller areas might be good.
4MP with 1/1.8" sensors are popular because they offer a good combo of daytime and nighttime quality.
So bigger isn't always better.
Hoping for the price to reduce on those!
Wireless battery cameras tend to be fairly heavy on compression. So a wired 2K camera (like a Dahua) will outperform a wireless Eufy 2K. You might be happy with wired 2K.
Bigger isnt always better either. While 4K offers some of the best vision during the day, they perform worse at night compared to lower resolution cameras. My 1080p Dahua with a 1/1.8" sensor will slaughter a 4K at night in terms of nighttime visibility.
Enthusiasts tend to get 4MP cameras with 1/1.8" sensors, which offers high enough resolution for good visibility during the day, and low enough resolution to be good at night.
An $8 ESP8266 deauthor will block these from talking to their hub. Thats why i went hard wired, Dahua.
Here”s my 2 cents on the wireless Eufy cameras and why they may or may not be suitable for you:
By no means are these cameras perfect and there maybe some show-stopper flaws that will deter you from getting one. But if that’s the case and the advantages don”t overcome the limitations then you have the wrong solution for the problem that you’re trying to solve.
Also for the price the resolution is very low.
The issue with EUFY is that they promised local storage support, ie the USB slot and nothing has been updated as of yet.
I refuse the cloud subscription but overall for the eufyCam 2C Pro package I got, it's perfect for the $300 ish price I paid.
Just be prepared to charge these properly and understand you cannot have the cameras triggering all the time and have long 30 sec slips and expect long battery performance.
Wait what? I was almost certain they had local/wifi or SD-card storage. Are you telling me they don't? I'm pretty sure cloud subscription isn't the only option right?
I have the 2C, it has an additional USB port for storage, it has not yet so far as been updated to support this which would mean pretty much unlimited storage.
Eufy stated this was a work in progress but I have not seen it implemented in over a year now.
It has 16GB of onboard storage which apparently gets wiped every 3 months now due to legal issues.
Just checked the website and this came up
https://myeufy.com.au/eufy-security-camera-2c/
Storage expansion Micro SD Card (Up to 128gb)* USB-A (Future release)**
*HomeBase 1 **HomeBase 2
So it's the homebase with the storage and you can't push that save locally?
@TogTogTogTog: Yes bingo, but Homebase 1 is what posted deal comes with, that has the ability for 128GB SD card to be installed, so you could removed that and back it up, Homebase 2 is what I have and you cannot get access to the 16GB unless you use their stupid download methods, maybe it's just an added extra security measure?
Again with the Homebase 1 128GB SD storage, I don't know if that is their own format or something sharable with PC/MAC.
Just food for thought, I recently had an incident where I had to get access to the footage stored locally, I had to download to my phone from memory then from my phone to PC. The steps to get it on the phone 1st were a PITA. I think it could be the same process with the Homebase 1.
If anyone else knows the answer, pls chime in.
I just picked up this deal - aware of the shortcomings of a wireless solution but prepared to give it a shot as the price was good.
Question - do I need to do anything specific or additional to properly secure these camera feeds? I don’t want them popping up on some dark web camera directory (even tho only to be used outside). Is there a mesh password or something extra I should reset when I’m setting them up?
They have their own encryption so you are pretty safe, if someone can access your router then that's when things could be a problem.
The other thing to note is the 2 step authentication which means you cannot view through a browser without an email sent 1st.
They enabled this on my account without my consent which made quick access almost impossible without wanting to use the mobile app.
Looking into buying a security camera. What's the main difference between this and buying a cheap Xiaomi one like this?
https://www.amazon.com.au/Xiaomi-Security-1080P-Camera-Magne…
Wired, worse IP rating. Otherwise decent value.
The price seems to have gone up to $889 now
Yes I missed out :(
Thoughts on this package? https://www.mitre10.com.au/eufy-security-ultimate-bundle
Seems like decent value
This one looks like you need electrician to install? Not like this deal where it’s wireless ?
back down to $699 again
and now 849 :(
$699 here https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/eufy-4-cam…
Mine was price beat by jb for $640
Would you be willing to share your receipt? thanks!
Anyone tried using any of the Eufy cams with a 3rd party solar power charger that's always plugged in?
I've seen a few ozbargainers saying their cameras got fried bwcause of continuous charging from the thrid party solar panels.
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