The Amazon UK deals keep on coming. I think this is the first time this has gone under $300 on OzBargain and an all time low on the Camels for the 2TB.
Edit: 26/11/21 Price has now dropped to $289.23
The 1TB is $183.91 and 500GB is $129.40 - so not great deals.
I've blown my storage budget for a while or I would grab one.
CamelCamelCamel.
It's brave to assume at that price, you will not get the cheap QLC version with sustained write suffered so badly.
If you are hoping 2TB wouldn't get the same QLC treatment (since Tom's Hardware only reviewed the new 500GB one), sorry to disappoint you:
https://www.austic.com.au/office-it-products/micron-crucial-…
For gaming, there is a way to still use QLC SSDs effectively, but let's not assume a QLC NVMe SSD is going to thrash a TLC NVMe SSD. P2 is DRAMless too by the way.
P2 QLC SSD + an enclosure would be cheaper, but not faster. It's okay to go down that path to save money I guess.
Was gonna say this dude came in trying to dunk on SanDisk with a trash recommendation.
QLC completely invalidates the use of larger file transfers.
I thought it's an expensive mobile phone case with cut out for camera.
Beware , this is Old gen with only 1000MB/s speeds. I say only because 1000MB/s is pretty freakin fast for most people and use cases for now anyway. I believe you’d need USB3.2 Gen2X2 or TB3 for further speeds - correct me if i am wrong. First one isn’t common yet anyway.
It's Amazon mixing reviews of different products together. Extreme is USB 3.1/3.2 gen 2. Extreme Pro (new gen) is USB 3.2 gen 2x2. However, USB 3.2 gen 2x2 is a standard defined after Thunderbolt 3 so while USB 3.2 gen 2x2 borrowed the idea from Thunderbolt 3, a lot of Thunderbolt 3 implementations / chips are not able to support USB 3.2 gen 2x2. USB 4 (with Thunderbolt 3 support) technically should be able to use USB 3.2 gen 2x2.
Thunderbolt 3 can do better than USB 3.2 gen 2x2, but you need a TB3 enclosure. This whole USB-C/TB is a big mess and it is NOT going to get better with USB 4 and Thunderbolt 4. Thunderbolt 4 standards are not truly finalised (only minimal specs are set). USB 4, there are USB 4 2x2 and USB 4 3x2.
In short, do not purchase USB 3.2 gen 2x2 devices unless you are certain your PC, laptop, or Mac supports USB 3.2 gen 2x2. Do NOT assume Thunderbolt 3 ports will be able to use USB 3.2 gen 2x2 devices via backward compatibility mode because the 2x2 specs came much later.
To complicate things further, the original Extreme Pro was USB 3.1 Gen2 (1050MB/s) and the original Extreme was 550MB/s so you need to make sure you’re buying the new Extreme not the old one (Samsung T5 speeds vs T7 speeds).
Concur, concur and concur on all 3 of your points.
Source: I recently picked up an Nvme to put in an enclosure, researched suitable but fast cases, boy what a nightmare that was.
Rude awakening that TB3 is not actually backwards compatible 90% of time. USB 3.2 and 3.1, 3.0 all require a seperate bridge chip, which costs extra and expensive so manufacturers straight up don’t put it in.
Non of 3.X or Gen X Y Z have no rhyme or reason to their speed in relation to their name, and their naming scheme was changed 3 times in past years with making it even more confusing every time they did it. it’s like they want to make it as confusing as possible lol.
ABSOLUTE MESS
Just want to make a correction on USB 4.
The shocker is that USB 4 2x2 is different to USB 3.2 2x2. They have the same speed technically, but the encoding method is different. Apple M1's official specs indicate:
Such implementation of USB 4 is allowed as per USB 4 specs:
Both USB4 20Gbps and USB4 40Gbps are mandated to support only up to USB 3.2 Gen 2 speeds - that is 10 Gbps. Vendors can optionally support higher, but the minimum needed for certification is 10 Gbps.
So USB 4 does not have to implement USB 3.2 gen 2x2. Only USB 3.2 gen 2 backward compatibility is required. It's a mess really.
For hecks sake. Every time a good standard comes along politics in the standards industry comes along to ruin it all.
We were killing it with USB-C then the deviations and proprietary BS started and here we are again with a good connector and half a dozen stupid flavours that end users (and even advanced users) are going to struggle to comprehend.
I had someone ask me what the difference was with USB 3.2 and Thunderbolt was and I had to tell him I couldn't explain it without a browser open.
Equivalent to Samsung t7, probably a little more rugged
Better to get this faster drive and put it in a enclosure.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/664555