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Prebuilt Desktop PC with 12700KF, RTX 3080, Z690 Mobo, 1TB SSD, 280mm AIO, 16GB 4000MHz RAM $2999 + Delivery @ BPC Tech

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Found this prebuilt on BPC seems decent for those in the market for a 12th Gen + RTX 3080 system
total for individual parts on AU PCPartpicker $3558 even factoring in recent price drop in GPU and Ventus going for $1899

Update 20/2/21- V1 version no longer listed/available - they've replaced it with a V2
AIO model replaced to slightly cheaper - EVGA CLC 280 RGB LED 280mm Liquid CPU Cooler with NZXT Kraken X53 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
also seems to be option to choose PC Case Colour between black or white

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/vigilant777/saved/#view=Vpf…

Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor $565
NZXT Kraken X53 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $189
ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard $369
Colorful I​Game Vulca​n 16GB 400​0Mhz [2x8G​] RGB / Wh​ite (Samsu​ng B-Die) $199
Kioxia Exc​eria M.2 N​VMe SSD 1T​B $119
MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card $1899
NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case $130
Gigabyte P GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $88

Total: $3558.00

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  • +6

    but you couldn't mention the price in the title?

  • +1

    That's a hell of a build for that price and all in a damn fine and clean case.
    Just needs some more Ram and MOAR RGB!!

    • +10

      and MOAR RGB!!

      No… no it doesn't…

  • -1

    Price in title.
    2 x 8gb RAM sticks, running at 3600MT/s, and that SSD, no thanks.

    • +2

      The ssd seems perfectly capable, not sure what you don't like about it? It's a 1tb ssd for roughly $120.

      No comment on the ram, however I typically would go for the more traditional brands, gskill, etc.

  • +1

    DDR4?

    • +1

      Yes only DDR4

  • +4

    Little misleading since while your RAM seems capable of 4000 MHz and you advertise it as such but on your website you clarify it's running at 3600 MHz. You can easily get a 16GB kit at 3600 MHz for half the price of the one you put in that system.
    Also, it has the infamous P750GM PSU, which I'm sure is fine now, but I'd rather not trust :)

    • -3

      750W is also just barely getting it done with a 3080 and 12700k, the deal would still be worth it and then to swap out the PSU for something with a bit more power and a bit less fire

      • +1

        They could have just used actual 3600 MHz RAM for $100 less and spent another $100 on the PSU.

      • +4

        Highly unlikely it would be going beyond 500w power draw under gaming load tbh

      • Didn't realise a 12700k pulled like 400w lol.

      • Not sure why this is getting downvoted given that high load is literally the reason this model of PSU was catching fire - https://youtu.be/aACtT_rzToI

        The power estimator from pcpartpicker has this at 595W which doesn't leave a heap of headroom. Plenty of builders use a 1.5-2.5 multiplier when selecting PSU capacity. I'd be interested to hear an opposing view point to this

        • Good PSUs can run at their rated power. Bad ones shouldn't be used at all.

          Main good reason to oversize is for future expansion and it doesn't cost much upfront to do so.

    • +1

      Yup, per Colorful's terrible website there only appears to be two iGame models in white: 3600, and 4266 (no timings listed anywhere). I'm confused as to whether Colorful's website is out of date, or BPC Tech's product listing is incorrect; they would only be able to advertise that kit at that frequency/those timings if its an XMP.

      • +1
        • Well that answers that. If it's a legit 4000 CL18 kit, Aleigh's point is moot. If these guys are running it at 3600 for whatever reason, it's extremely simple to load the XMP in BIOS.

          • @zonfierre: Please see my post below (not sure how to link it).

            As someone who plays around with B-die a lot, you get better performance at 3600mhz for gaming workloads with better timings and you can bump the voltage down a little (sometimes) or at least better stability at the same voltage. Low latency +4000mhz is doable but B-die crashes after 50 C which you'll definitely hit with the ram sitting directly above an RTX GPU so it's not sustainable.

            • @hotpants: I know that, I also play around with RAM a lot. The counter-point I was making has nothing to do with this though. No run-of-the-mill company is going to sell pre-builts with custom clocked hardware. Logically, this pre-built should be running at 2133 (untouched BIOS) or 4000 (XMP). NFI why the RAM is listed as running at 3600, and I'd be very surprised if they're manually setting clocks/timings for every single one.

              • @zonfierre: @zonfierre because I think they understand that 4000mhz is a struggle with XMP. It's going to get toasty in there and then people will get constant crashes. They will have no idea it's the RAM and will think it's some other component. They will reset the BIOS and not enable XMP and then the rig will run like dogshit because it's at 2133 and then they'll think some other component is still the fault.

                I mean I can't come to any other conclusion because they're very openly telling everyone else that it's rated for 4000mhz, running at 3600mhz. That's exactly what I would do if that were my rig too.

                • @hotpants: I don't disagree with anything that you're saying except it just doesn't seem logical for them to treat every client's PC like their own; cool if they do.

    • What?
      How is that misleading.

      They are literally saying it's 4000mhz RAM running at 3600MHz. They are telling you that.

      You must be new so I'll explain it to you.

      3600mhz with tighter timings is better than 4000mhz with looser timings for gaming. For gaming, latency typically trumps overall clockspeed once you get past 3200mhz.

      https://evatech.com.au/product/6926/igame-16gb-2x8g-vulcan-r…

      It's a Samsung B-Die kit which is the best performing RAM you can get. RAM is manufactured by only a select few companies and G.Skill/Corsair etc. all get their RAM from them - they do not manufacture their own.

      They're running it at 3600mhz so people get better performance. Also running it a lower clockspeed gives you an opportunity to potentially lower the voltage. B-Die are the best ram kits but they're also the most temperamental when it comes to temperature and do not handle being clocked above standard at 50 C where other inferior RAM won't clock as high but will be okay up to 80 C.

      Taking in hot air from the GPU below is a common issue to solve.

      So yeah, they're not misleading at all and they're actually doing the buyer a favour by going with 3600mhz and tighter timings.

      • I would be very very very very impressed if BPC Tech are running custom clocks/timings. If so, why stop there? Why not manually clock the CPU and GPU? It just doesn't make sense. Also, despite it being B-kit, if they're actually manually clocking RAM, they should be testing for stability (as they'd be accountable for the stability of the system, no?). That would be a giant time-sink, and PITA quite frankly.

        • if they're actually manually clocking RAM, they should be testing for stability

          Keeping the same voltage but lowering the clockspeed and bumping primary timings only to something conservative is very quick to do and will be more stable. We're not talking subtimings or tertiary timings here.

          You don't need to manually clock Ampere. It will boost base on thermals for you and power-wise even if you manually increased the 90 odd mv you're still thermally limited and the card will naturally downclock itself accordingly.

          • @hotpants: TBF you nor I know what timings (tertiary or otherwise) or voltage they're running, unless I'm blind. While what you're saying is true for Ampere, you can absolutely still overclock and/or undervolt them for better performance; the same applies to Intel and thermal velocity boost.

      • I'm sure you'd understand that. But surely you realise that generally the target market for a prebuilt computer isn't someone like everyone who comments here that knows how to change XMP and adjust timings manually in BIOS (I for one know how to change XMP profiles, but know nothing about adjusting timings).

        And you don't find it an issue that you have to read more into the system specifications for clarification that your 4000 MHz RAM that you're essentially paying double for compared to a similar 3600 MHz kit is actually running at the same speeds as the latter? My argument was that if they're going to do that, they should instead use 3600 MHz RAM and instead upgrade something else like the power supply. They're using a 12700 KF, with a 3080 and spending more than double the price of the PSU on 16 GB of RAM.

        Surely it would be better value to use a more reliable power supply than one that previously had issues with exploding than spending $100 more on RAM that half their buyers won't even be able to make full use of?

        • I have no idea why you're just giving me information.

          I addressed one thing:

          You said: Little misleading since while your RAM seems capable of 4000 MHz and you advertise it as such but on your website you clarify it's running at 3600 MHz

          I said: No, it's not misleading. It clearly says that they're running the 4000Mhz ram at 3600mhz.

          You should be careful saying things like that because they're running a business. If you're not sure, don't just make assertions - ask the question. There's nothing wrong with saying 'I think…' or 'I'm not sure but this seems….'.

          As for this: And you don't find it an issue that you have to read more into the system specifications for clarification that your 4000 MHz RAM that you're essentially paying double for compared to a similar 3600 MHz kit is actually running at the same speeds as the latter?

          No, I don't. It's not some fine print. It literally is in the shortlist of components. If someone can't be bothered youtubing or googling then it's buyer beware.
          You're not getting it.
          4000Mhz at the XMP of C19 is 9.5 nanoseconds (generally, but other timings can make it faster or slower).
          3200Mhz at C16 (very common) is 10 nanoseconds.
          That's barely worse performance and you can run that at 1.25-1.3v compared to 1.4-1.45v for the 4000mhz ram.

          What people do is get a B-die kit like 4000 or 4266 at C18/C19 and then you lower the bandwidth and have really fast timings.
          3600Mhz C14 is 7.7 nanoseconds which is MUCH faster than 4000Mhz/C19.

          Nobody buys B-die kits to run them at XMP settings and 4200mhz+ won't even load XMP on default timings. You literally need to change timings straight away.

          So yeah, the average pre-built buyer won't know any of this and these guys are trying to help out.
          So again, nobody buys a 4000 kit to run it at 4000. Bandwidth helps if you're doing content creation/photoshop type tasks. For gaming you want faster latency.

          If you're not sure about something, then say so. Don't be so assertive. Your PSU comment is valid but when you say things like 'bit misleading' when it's clearly not, it's not helpful for people trying to run a business.

          • @hotpants:

            Nobody buys B-die kits to run them at XMP settings and 4200mhz+ won't even load XMP on default timings. You literally need to change timings straight away.

            Not necessarily true. It's dependent on your the quality of the CPU's silicon, and motherboard. Also, you can easily run 3600 CL14 B-Die XMP.

            • @zonfierre:

              Not necessarily true. It's dependent on your the quality of the CPU's silicon, and motherboard. Also, you can easily run 3600 CL14 B-Die XMP.

              That's what I said.

              And nah man, show me something that runs at the JDECC XMP profile @ 4200mhz that's stable. Doesn't exist. It always requires playin with timings.

              • @hotpants:

                And nah man, show me something that runs at the JDECC XMP profile @ 4200mhz that's stable. Doesn't exist. It always requires playin with timings.

                https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8946/patriot-viper-steel-e…

                • @zonfierre: Please just stop, you have no idea what you're talking about.

                  Did you read the article?

                  Although requiring 1.45VDIMM to run at this setup, our Viper Steel memory is giving us 4400MHz at 19-19-19-38 2T timings. Also, something to note, is that the VCCIO and VCCSA are both jumping to 1.400V to achieve this as well.

                  1.4v VCCSA and VCCIO!!!!

                  That is going to kill your components in 6 months if not less. That's for benchmarking, not for daily usage.

                  Like I said, running those timings is not achievable for someone who uses their computer everyday.

                  • @hotpants: Stop with the superiority complex. You asked for evidence of RAM running at XMP which I provided. It posts and runs without changing timings. You never mentioned anything about IO and SA. MB default values for SA and IO are auto. Once again, depending on your silicon and motherboard you can manually change them. l2askquestions

                    Also, buildzoid himself has stated 1.4 SA and IO is safe.

                    • @zonfierre: Again you fail to read.

                      I said you can't have 4200mhz+ out of the box with XMP.

                      If you use a normal and safe everyday voltages then it won't run at XMP will it?

                      It won't post at those timings.

                      And gamers nexus and everyone else recommends 1.3 absolute max for anyone who uses their system long term ie. their personal PC and specifically GN say DO NOT use 1.4v

                      Buildzoid is great but he uses a test bench open air and runs through many motherboards and CPUs. If you really think that putting that much voltage through is safe I emplore you to run 1.4 on your rig for 6 months and I'll legit send you one of my b-die kits to do it on. That'll help you save money for when you have to replace your CPU after it's borked.

                      • @hotpants: It’ll run XMP >4200, period. SA and IO volts aren’t on an XMP profile. Once again, a lot of assumptions. You’re quite the hypocrite for someone who chastised another guy in here for making assumptions.

                        • @zonfierre: No, it won't.

                          Exactly right, voltages aren't controlled by XMP yet you can still run XMP on a 3200mhz kit right?

                          So 4200mhz ram won't work out of the box. The bloody article you linked me HAD TO CHANGE IO/SA, it didn't work out of the box!! The only way 4200mhz+ works out of the box is to drop things down ie. Not run it at XMP. Do you know who else quoted that? None other than your best mate Buildzoid lmao

                          It's common knowledge.

                          Why don't you take me up on my offer seeing as you think 1.4v is safe? Like I said I'm happy to send you a kit. You can then report your findings.

  • +2

    Power supply is a bit of a worry, otherwise nice price.

    • +1

      I would definitely be asking for an upgrade on the psu if I was buying this.

  • +1

    Beast of a machine. Some of the parts are a bit odd but can easily and cheaply replace the ram or add another SSD of a better known brand if that's a concern

  • +4

    12th gen? Seems like yesterday I bought my 9th gen i7 - under 2 years ago when it was the latest kit

    • +4

      Yeah it’s not just me then…feel like they are pushing out new ‘generations’ every 6 months now

  • -1

    Do you guys think this is a good build for plex, unraid (min: 4 HDD) and cctv (4 cameras) server?

    • +16

      Can't tell if this is satirical or not…

      • sorry, it was a genuine question

        • Its fine for that…and burning $100s for the lols.

          For plex, cctv this is not the target demographic unless its for flex.

        • +2

          All good, I didn't intend to unleash the neg brigade on you lol.

          As you've probably gathered this would be very much overkill… A mid range Synology or other pre-built nas should be fine for that purpose, or if you really want unraid you could grab basically any old pc with sufficient quicksync specs and space for a bunch of disks.

  • Never heard of Kioxia Exc​eria brand SSD before

    • +3

      It's Toshiba

    • +3

      It is from Toshiba. It is one of the major NAND Flash manufacturers like WD and Samsung.

  • +2

    BPC ts techfast on roids

    • +1

      Definitely a big battle between the two now!

    • +2

      BPC much better builds, nicer components and competitive prices.

  • Not a bad price but I'm always wary that if you're spending this sort of dosh, why wouldn't you hand pick all the parts that you REALLY want? Yes, there's savings to be had but why compromise when it's 3 friggin' grand?

    • +4

      do you pick every part of your bike? A true rider will say 'of course', many many other people say 'huh, i just bought the bike that was in the shop, it seemed good'

      Sometimes people dont have the knowledge or cant be bothered or dont particularly care. Even for $3k

    • +2

      For people like me who want highend PC gaming but have no knowledges how to build one. Yes, I could learn but I would rather spend that time on playing game/working.

      For example, finding a GPU and CPU is one thing, have to lookup what motherboard is compatible, case that fit, air cooling or liquid, how to apply thermal paste correctly… just for one time build, I would rather bough a PC once every 5 years or so.

      • -1

        Picking your own parts doesn't necessarily mean building it yourself but at least customise it to your liking. And I'm sure a decent PC shop would provide advice and guidance if you don't know what you need.

        It's a lot of money for a PC so if you're willing to spend that much, I'd hope you'd invest a bit more effort in getting something that really suits your requirements and puts a big grin on your face rather than rely on what a retailer has "bundled" together.

        • +1

          Of course I will not blindingly just choose a Pc and buy it without researching. I just got one from Techfast recently, AMD system and a 3080 was something I was waiting for and Im happy to pay that price, I dont know how much extra I paid compared to building myself but I did save time with it.

          Im sure that a Pc shop would helped me in someway however I only get input from them, compared to online deals posted in here, I will get more inputs from other commenters, like you, not just sellers. Always appreciate helps like you did.

    • +1

      Just target audience is different. Nowadays I wanna customize how my pc looks like so I would not consider prebuilt. But few years back I was also someone who dunno anything about the pc parts and just want something to run smoothly and yes I paid stupid amount of money for some poor specs. What I was thinking before was:
      Brand is alienware - heard they pretty “gaming” so nice
      CPU is i7 - heard i7 is high end so nice
      RAM is 16 GB - wow that’s a lot (and I don’t know there is speed for RAM back then)
      Storage is 1TB SSD - looks enough for me so nice
      GPU is 1080 - watched some videos and knew it runs game pretty good so nice

    • +1

      Because at this price ($600 less than buying everything individually), you could probably still replace everything you want and still come under the cost price

    • Troubleshooting can be hard, prebuilts are covered under warranty if bought in Australia. I'm not sure on BPCtech but you would think it would be around 2 years at least.

      My first prebuilt had a failed graphics card, motherboard and power supply (at different times). I didn't know enough to be able to troubleshoot the issue, and got conflicting answers when I asked around. Ended up going to the local computer shop, which was expensive.

      People say building modern PC's is like putting together Lego, but if something goes wrong there is considerable knowledge required.

    • I kind agree with that. Special with the calculation made by the seller. It always include a overpriced AIO and I case that I don't like or is not worth the price. In this case the memory is overpriced as well. So it ended up never being 600 saving, more likely $300.

  • Warning for anyone wanting to purchase this build:

    The power supply is known for having issues that will cause it to explode - source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JmPUr-BeEM

    I would recommend changing the PSU

    • +1

      Not sure why you're being downvoted? This model is known to be shit

      • Didn't realise anyone would still be selling these PSUs let alone bundling it with $3k build.
        I thought it was a different model but nope exact same, GP-P750GM model

      • Ran multiple of these 24hrs a day for over a year with 3080s. Not a single issue.

      • Because the issue has been fixed

  • this one or
    KrakenPower Holiday RTX 3080 Gaming PC?

    https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/kp-chrismas03-krakenpower…

    • +2

      I'd go with the one in your link.

      For $400 more, you get;

      • Non-OEM CPU (OEM CPU from my review have a chance at being lower-binned chips)
      • 32 GB Ram (instead of 16GB)
      • 360MM AIO vs 240MM AIO (240mm aio may be a bit too small for the 12700KF - my 360mm aio yields 75-85c for my 12700K when benchmarking on cinebench R23.
      • better quality NVME Drive
      • Better power Supply
      • A case with a better design for airflow.

      All in my opinion, if youre looking for a prebuilt of course.

      The PC for this deal is serviceable - except PSU i'd swap out.

      • The RAM upgrade is welcome but I'd still want more than a 750W PSU. Also pity it's only available in white, but that comes down to personal preference.

        • Yep definitely.

          However, I have used my 750W PSU with a 3080 + 3700x with no problems what so ever (including doing some mining in the downtime).

      • Great answer thanks a lot!!!!

    • PCpartpicker comes fto $3883
      https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/nfusion88/saved/#view=KGK4p…

      This had heaps of upvotes in previous OZB post back in 2021.

  • +1

    Everyone wants a beasty CPU but you only really need it for Higher FPS gaming dont you? and the 3080 is a 4k card, so its not going to be doing much more than 60FPS at 4k at decent settings soo what im saying is, wouldnt it be worth saving money on the CPU and getting a slightly cheaper system?

    • +1

      Yes well if you only use PC for gaming and basic web browsing/streaming etc majority of current games are GPU-bottlenecked at at 1440p+, i.e older CPUs such as 10700 are enough to get the most of 3080 and max out FPS , even budget PCs such as 11400 difference will be marginal (within 10% from top end PC)

      Where 12th gen gets a major uplift in performance is for CPU intensive and multithreaded productivity tasks as it runs on a new 10nm architecture compared to previous process (14nm) - so users who also use PC for Video editing , photoshop, blender, CAD etc may be willing to shell out for the extra performance boost

      https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-12700k-re…

  • Nice price, better than the tf deal

  • +1

    I will never be able to justify paying more than $1500 for a GPU

    • +1

      There was a time in the far far past where a 8086 system (the very first processor sold by Intel) would give you 2-16 colours, a floppy drive and 1MB of RAM for $3000. In a world that people are willing to pay $2000 for a smartphone these computers are still cheap.

    • Not if you mine.

  • What's the world coming to? A GPU costing more than an entire computer

    • its called Covid-supplychain cost pressures.

      • Nah mate pre covid 2018 and 2019 went up heaps too

        But yes semiconductor shortage made it worse

  • +2

    $3000 PC and you're still stuck in ELO hell….

    • +1

      I'm $2500k deep and struggling.. Welcome to LoL

  • Better PSU, MOAR RAM, 2TB SSD at least and non-LHR please.

    • Still looking for FHR GPUs? I think all would have been bought by scalpers and miners by now.

  • Nice post 🙂

    Worth mentioning in the title that it's a 10Gb 3080, not that it will affect performance much but the newer 12Gb exists. 10Gb is probably preferred anyway, since it goes faster for crypto mining.

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