very yummy vegan substitute.
Strips are my fav
$20 bucks for fake meat is not exactly cheap
It is for fake meat that tastes good
if you compare them to meatballs or other meat processed food, they are reasonable. It is hard to produce these things and they are better for the planet
I don't think they're actually much better, if at all, for the planet… :)
@vchung916: From your first link "So far, all they have demonstrated is that they are better on [greenhouse gas] emissions than their industrial meat counterparts"
The product in this deal is replacing industrially farmed meat, not sustainability raised meat. And not all fake meat is "beyond meat" which granted isn't great for the environment. I have no idea how processed the product in this deal is, but neither of those links really say that "meet" chicken tenders aren't better for the environment than industrially farmed chicken tenders.
@EBC: The only valid arguments against meat substitutes are price and taste. If they're not arguing those points, then they're arguing to offset their guilt.
@vchung916: Your links provided say they reduce greenhouse gases and animal suffering? Yes they rely on monoculture but meat does even more As 1% of all nutrients from plants is ingsted by animals like cows. So we could eat from monoculture and absorb far more nutrients or give 100 times more of those plants and water to animals to absorb those same nutreients? seems smart.
and our second link is a blog lol
Better for the animals
Probably not health but better than meat version still
It's literally not better for the planet.
That's just marketing
@Whomastadon: Plenty of scientific evidence and figures to suggest that's wrong. Land cleared for agricultural cattle is huge, both the area and impact on the ozone layer. People just don't want to give it up.
I will eat either as long as it tastes good
After you pay, Meetballs!
Will stick with porterhouse for now
I do eat both, but try to eat veg / minimise meat consumption. this is a good middle ground to add into your salads / spice up things
It is for vegetarians who want to eat fake meat. The only nonsense is people caring so much about what other people eat.
They like the taste of meat, but not at the expense of killing animals. So if you can have the best of both worlds why wouldn't you?
@zuccs: This guy gets it.
@ctg: It might not be better for you nor the environment depending on how processed it is but it saves animals from being killed. How does that not benefit animals that are farmed for food? Some of the ways they are farmed let alone the way they are killed are pretty inhumane.
@ctg: Not killing an animal is inarguably better for their welfare than killing them lol.. I didn't think that needed to be said but I guess the internet attracts all types
@Dvbargain: Unfortunately it does need to be explained on here. Needs to be a simple intelligence test to register an account.
@Dvbargain: Killing some older animals can be better for the welfare of the younger ones , who don’t have to compete with others for food or mates as much
@piston3461: You know that applies to humans too, right? Do we do that?
@Dvbargain: Yes, it’s called Do Not Resuscitate
@piston3461: That's not killing older folk that's just not resuscitating the ones already dying. It's also by choice, not forced.
That was quite a "reach" there.. And pretty much irrelevant to your point about trying to say killing old animals is awesome cos the young ones have more mates to root
@Dvbargain: Equating animals to humans was the biggest reach…
@piston3461: Not really. Most people I know have a pet they consider part of the family.
They are alive, they think, they feel pain.
I am teaching lots of people on Ozbargain about stuff today.
@piston3461: How so? They are sentient beings with a will to live.
People wouldn't eat there their dog or cat, but happy to eat other more intelligent animals, or roll up to Coles for their pre-packaged meats. Classic speciesism.
@G-rig: So if animals are equal to humans , why do people care so much if humans eat animals ? Animals eat animals , that’s the circle of life. People should eat less meat , but so far the research indicates a balanced diet of meat and vegetables is still the most ideal.
people need to eat what they want and stop annoying others about their preferences.
@piston3461: It's not about being 100% equal, just a bit of compassion and sensibility.. it's not sustainable in the long run. People's views and habits are hard to change. People just overdo it and hell bent on protein and thinking you need meat 3 times a day. Most wouldn't admit they just don't want to give it up regardless of the suffering. Wouldn't hurt to eat less meat (and actually beneficial on all levels), imagine if the whole world even had one meat free day a week.
Agree that a meal with a little bit of meat and lot of veg is better than vegan junk food and substitutes, only as that component is the whole foods/veg.
Yeah there'll be 100 debates on these threads and everyone is right. All the arguments/fallacies have been debunked before and it's not like there aren't any easy alternatives for around these days.
Pretty decent looking ingredients too. No random binders, emulsifiers, texture/juiciness agents!
Lol have you seen the “ingredients” of meat bro 😅
The reprocessed carcass that goes into feed? Or the emulsifiers, binders etc. Which animals are packed full of too.
Wheat protein is one of the ingredients, and it doesn't state "gluten-free". So I guess it's most possibly has gluten. And I also don't like canola oil.
Vegans will ignore that, in particular the use of industrial seed oils in their food like canola, soy, sunflower etc, because it is a religious cult.
Don't let perfect be the enemy of good, mate.
Oh no, Gluten! Horror!
Yes, one group sacrifices seeds, the other blood sacrifices animals. Which one is a cult?
@sjj89: Evolution does not care for your emotions. You cannot go back for millennia and change the course of how we evolved.
@findingbargains: What are you talking about? Please focus
@sjj89: Sorry, I realise that went over your head. What I meant is that it is not some kind of a cult-like "sacrifice of animals" if we have evolved to eat meat over thousands of years. This is innate to us. You cannot change that (fact of evolution) no matter how much you wish to do so (emotions). Make sense? I will leave you with this Meat-eating extends human life expectancy worldwide.
@findingbargains: Seem pretty hurt about it
yes i have vegan friends and they are all over shit like canola oils. i tried to show them how bad a choice it is for the oils but soon stopped as it was fruitless.
Ah. Veganism, Women's Day and Rapid tests, the three horsemen of OzB deals that turn comments into a ripe cesspool.
There's got to be better things to do with your time people, live a little.
I thought, foolishly, that if you weren't interested you wouldn't click on it or comment. Can't believe I could be so stupid!
Sometimes I see a mundane deal but a hundred comments, so I have to click on it and see what people are offended by this time
Not vegan, or vegetarian, but rarely eat meat. Dont like it. Vegan meat substitutes is a bizarre concept to me, but each to their own..doesnt bother me heh.
Yeah it's more of a transitional food, better to eat whole food plant based and keep it simple. Works out pretty cheap if you ignore all the vegan junk food and substitutes. Surprise more people are going vegetarian/vegan at least some days a week, given the price of meat alone (ethics and health benefits aside)
OP’s username checks out
"You don't win friends with Salad ! "
Imagine there's meat based plants. I'll be all over it.
Asked my missus if she'll like Meet balls and strip, was not well received.
she prob wasn't satisfied with the undersized portions
Sick of that little Frankfurt, doesn't even half full her bun!
I remember driving past a sign in the USA that read "Goat Meet" and I always wondered what they could be getting up to.
The greatest of all time meat
you can't beat meat
try some vaseline next time
Can anyone who has tried comment on the taste and texture please?
The meatballs are actually really good imo! Very meatball-like (fair warning, I haven't eaten meat in 15 or so years. But my partner also really likes them and he's been vegan for ~5 years). We've had them a few different ways now and my favourite was definitely with spaghetti al sugo, it genuinely reminded me of what my nonna used to make back in the day. I haven't tried the strips or the tenders though.
I stand with that. Meatballs taste very similar if not the same, probably of large amount of oil in them. Strips also taste like stir fried meat from Asian cuisine and has fibrous texture