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[Afterpay] Dell G3223Q 32" 4K Monitor with HDMI 2.1 $899 (RRP $1499) Delivered @ Dell eBay

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Dell's recently announced new monitor G3223Q is now available for order. RRP is $1499, but on eBay, it's currently $1057 before the afterpay coupon. There is nothing on the market that comes close to this combination of features, warranty and price at the moment. Even without the Afterpay coupon, it s still few hunder dollars cheaper than the rest. Comes with 3 year warranty with zero dead pixel guarantee.

Note that the delivery date is late April and in depth reviews aren't out yet.

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This is part of Afterpay Day sale for 2022

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  • +12

    20% off next week according to dealbots comment on his post.

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/688937

    • So $845.60 next week?

      • Is there a chance it could go back to RRP of $1499 and then 20% off that? It happens all the time on eBay.

    • Sorry for ignorance, does this mean that next week this will be even cheaper (I had a read of the dealbot post, but wasn't suuuure if I interpreted it properly!)

      • +2

        Yes, here's what dealbot said

        Removing the two G monitors from this post. Got word that these will be better priced during the next 20% promo.

        They then said it was next week.

  • +1

    Doesn't even have USB c ?

    • Yikes

      • +1

        Want to buy but must have USB C

        • Agreed.. it’s 2022 how can this be new model

          • +1

            @[Deactivated]:

            • At the moment, there is no Mac or PC that supports USB-C/DP 2.0 alt-mode. Thus, if you insist on going down USB-C/DP 1.4 path, any USB-C based monitors can only provide USB 2.0 speed.
            • If you have deep pocket, then go for Thunderbolt 3 monitors now I guess.
            • USB-C/DP 2.0 alt-mode has been defined. So, Intel and Apple will eventually implement it for Thunderbolt 4 / USB 4. All current implementations of Thunderbolt 4 / USB 4 only implement DP 1.4.

            Most importantly:

            • Cables do exists to support USB-C / DP 1.4 (all 4 lanes) so it is possible to get a cable to use it. M1 Pro, M1 Max and M1 Ultra devices generally use a different power input connector (MagSafe 3 or 3 pin connector). So PD is not a factor.
            • Dell has so far crippled PD wattage on G series monitor.
            • It is just silly to go USB-C for 4K/120Hz gaming monitor right now. How many nVidia and AMD cards support USB-C in that mode?
            • @netsurfer: Good point.
              I was thinking more from productivity, it would be nice to have a plug-in monitor for my MacBook that charges it and everything.
              Probably thunderbolt is needed.

              And yeah the crippled 65W charging sucks

              • @[Deactivated]: Apple doesn't let you control USB-C/DP 1.4 alt-mode at 4K/60Hz in terms of which mode you want to use. Right now, there is already an issue I found (with M1), even at 4K/60Hz through USB-C/alt-mode. If you want HDR, Apple insists you must use 4K/10-bit (10:10:10), which for USB-C, means you have to give all 4 data lanes to display. If you want USB 3.0 through that same pipe, then you lose HDR. However, the way Apple does HDMI is different, you can go 4K/60Hz 8-bit HDR.

                Furthermore, HDMI out, for me, is consistently far more reliable than USB-C (in terms of display). Apple does prefer customers to go down Thunderbolt path, but Thunderbolt monitors are more expensive.

                USB-C and Thunderbolt so far are not good for general consumers. Everything is more expensive (cable, monitor, enclosure). For Mac, you also need to decide when you want to go USB-C and when you want to spend the extra to go Thunderbolt. Apple not putting HDMI 2.1 in Macbook Pro / M1 Pro/Max or Mac Studio is really annoying. Clearly, Apple wants you to buy their expensive monitors. HDMI 2.0 on Mac, you can forget about VRR.

                • @netsurfer: Thanks for the info…
                  I guess as consumers we will have to wait it putt for apple to eventually acquiesce.

            • @netsurfer: Actually m series laptops do charge through their thunderbolt/USBc ports as well, so do not have to use the MagSafe to charge. I recognise your point though that high frequencies, proper charging, resolutions 4K or above and data is constrained by bandwidth, if that is the right term.

    • But the images seem to suggest the USB type b can provide power and be used for the display.

      • +3

        Its just an upstream for built-in usb hub. It does not provide power and can’t be use for display.

    • +4

      What would be the best 4K 144Hz with USB c charging atm? Really wanna get sth like this so it can be used for both gaming and working

      • Price range? IPS or VA or OLED? I can give you bunch of monitors better than this, but price will be lot more expensive ofc.

        • Price up to 2K would be no issue. Preferable IPS since using it for both work and gaming means it would be almost 24 hrs open for the monitor so OLED might not be good.

      • +1

        Read my first comment above. If you insist on 4K/144Hz with USB-C/PD, at best, you will have to sacrifice USB-C downstream ports to USB 2.0. Also, for gaming, which graphics card does USB-C, I struggle to find nVidia or AMD graphics cards which support that, especially for the current gen ones.

        We know that the mess with Thunderbolt 3/USB-C 3.2 alt-mode mess (DP 1.2 vs DP 1.4) will most likely repeat again for Thunderbolt 4/USB 4 alt-mode. This time around DP 1.4 vs DP 2.0 alt-mode.

        If you have M1 based devices, have you actually used USB-C (even with 4K/60Hz)? Are you aware of the limitation if you want to have USB 3 downstream ports? The lack of flexibility in the MacOS means if you want HDR with USB-C/alt-mode, through USB-C/DP 1.4, it needs all 4 lanes, that knocks USB down to USB 2.0.

        So many people think USB-C is so great. In reality, it is not. It's a mess and trying to put display + data + power through that port with limited bandwidth is not a good idea. We'll see whether Apple eventually release a USB-C cable that does PD 3.0 (> 100W) or just sticking with MagSafe (most likely the case, coz. MagSafe is better and avoid the chance of people getting dodgy cables).

        • Yep I do know the limitation. For me I’m not using Mac for work and image quality is pointless for me. The only thing that I care about USB-C is to have 65W charging and have basic display quality so that I can just reduce cables.

          • @nelladream: If you insist on 4K 120Hz or 144Hz, USB-C with PD above 65Hz, then there isn't one that's in the affordable range. There might be some in professional range.

            S2722QC, when discounted, is known to be an affordable 60Hz 4K monitor (27 inch though). Do bear in mind the way Mac handles HDR (read my comments to Z80). However, if you have no intention to use USB 3 data on the same pipe, or HDR400 is just gimmick to you, then it is not an issue. Dell monitor manager software for Mac is limited to Ultrasharp range (intentionally), so cannot use that with S series monitors.

            • @netsurfer: S2722QC is not a bad choice for me. Right now using 2 S2722QC for work and on top of them is my gaming monitor 27GP850. This is what I’m unsatisfied with at the moment that I have an additional gaming monitor on top. Two gaming/working monitors would be the ideal situation for me.

              • @nelladream: Honestly, if you get a 4K/120-144Hz monitor without RTX 3080 equivalent or better GPU, you are basically getting one out of FOMO or just want to jump into 4K/120Hz (console gaming might have another excuse to take the plunge early).

                USB-C for gaming (4K/120+) doesn't make sense:

                • GPU makers know far too well not to go into this USB-C/alt-mode marketing BS.
                • Committing to USB-C/4K-120Hz/DP1.4 is short sighted. If you are a pro or work pays for them, then that's fine. We are already seeing the USB data bandwidth runs out issue as some newer monitors are using/supporting 2 USB-C ports (and introducing USB 3.2 gen 2 hub for the second port).
                • Apple moving back to MagSafe (finally) shows yet another intrinsic issue of USB-C hype. USB-C/PD is also a bit of a mess.

                If you care about high refresh gaming, 2K high refresh rate is easier to achieve than 4K. The only 'excuse' you could come up with is you want 120Hz high refresh rate for text scrolling and 4K is a must. Furthermore, we are looking at 8 zones local dimming for this new Dell monitor. Is it good though? We are basically seeing monitors doing just enough to quality for the quoted features.

                It doesn't make sense for monitor makers to make 4K/120-144Hz USB-C monitors at the moment. The added cost of alt-mode chip, USB-PD circuitry, and the disappointment on USB-A port bandwidth reduction needed to support 4K/120 (USB 2 only) just make it a hard sell to customers (and that's already WITH DSC applied). For the main target audience, PC gamers, why would you go USB-C for "gaming" to embark on that mess?

                S2722QC's appeal is price. The USB-C/alt-mode DP 1.4 @ 4K/60fps on a Mac isn't without issues. At least on a PC, Microsoft doesn't lock you out display colour depth adjustment. You need to decide whether committing to Thunderbolt 4 or USB-C/DP 1.4 right now is worthwhile. First gen Apple Silicon + first gen 4K/120+ fps monitor(s).

              • +1

                @nelladream: A lot of people think USB-C or Thunderbolt is this amazing port with heaps of bandwidth. That's not the case, especially once we start taking 4K into consideration.

                For Thunderbolt 3/4, you are limited to at most PCIe gen 3 x4. That's right PCIe gen 3 x4, it has less bandwidth than a PCIe gen 4 x4 m.2 SSD needs (so such SSD can only operate in PICe gen 3 x4 mode at best via Thunderbolt 3/4). Thunderbolt 5 will address that issue, but we are looking at a few years from now (at least 2 years, maybe more). We also need to wait for Intel and Apple to put DP 2.0 alt-mode in USB 4/Thunderbolt 4.

                HDMI 2.1 2m cable starts from $9 (if you don't mind el cheapo brand). USB-C monitors come with a 1m cable normally for 4K/60fps displays. Replacement cable costs a fair bit. You think monitor makers will give you a 2m USB-C/USB-C cable for 4K/120fps USB-C/alt-mode DP 1.4 monitors (assuming they are willing to make them)? That's wishful thinking. Right now, with USB-C 4K/60 monitors, you are often limited to that 1m USB-C cable. All that for USB-PD being so "amazing"? Really?

    • What is the issue there?
      I would have thought you could just use a USB-C to HDMI cable.

      … oh, is it about plugging in a laptop, and getting charge plus video over one cable?
      Do you also get a USB hub included in that case?

      • I am wondering any monitor can do USB-C charging and display at the same time?

        • Yes there are monitors that do that. I've got the kogan 34" one and does I believe up to 60w and video at the same time through the type-c.

        • There’s always the Apple Studio Display

          • @DanielBaird: It’s 5K, thunderbolt docking, decent six speaker system, tricky webcam and four times the price.
            The 5K alone puts it in a quite different category. There aren’t many of those.

            Dell make some exceptionally good USBc docking 4K displays, but they do tend to run 60hz and more expensive. As Halo9 points out below, I like the U2723QE and U3223QE. Both U series IPS black technology panels would be better than a G series.

        • +2

          Yeah, Dell’s Ultrasharp equivalent of this screen, the U3223QE. Same size screen though tuned for colour not speed, usb-c input and up to 90w charging. Picked one up last week for $851.90

          • +1

            @halo9: That is an impressive price, less than the current lame sale on the 27 inch. How did you manage that?

            • +1

              @entropysbane: Search the interweb for Dell MPP and sign up with a work email if you have one. Otherwise many report it working with personal email. None of my emails worked with Dell website but a quick search reveals other “members” where you can sign up through their site. One worked for me and got 30% off monitors code. There’s also 20% off listed price XPS, Vostro, Alienware, and Dell G Series, 25% off Inspiron 3000 & 5000 series, 40% off 7000 series. Good luck

              • @halo9: Hi halo, just wondering would that be possible to share the site you used to sign up to get the 30% off? Did a bit search but only find sites to offer 20% off through Dell EPP~

              • @halo9: Does this still work?

          • +1

            @halo9: I'd be keen to jump on this price too. Been looking at the Benq PD3200U for CAD work but it doesn't get below $1,100.

  • wow, I think this is the first time I've seen a UHD 144Hz monitor in ozbargain.

    • +1

      ok, obviously I didn't look hard enough. Dealbot posted it previously..

    • That's the QHD version but with a USB-C port.

      • +1

        Thanks I was wondering why it was cheaper, also the screens are the same price on feels website minutes the afterpay discount

  • Even without the Afterpay coupon, it s still few hunder dollars cheaper than the rest

    Genuine question but isn't the M32U very similar? Currently around the $1090 mark? Obviously at $899 this is pretty damn good. Currently have 3x S2721DGF's, highly considering replacing the middle one for this, but not sure the OCD in my noggin would accept 2 monitors being 27" and the third being 32"

    • +1

      That’s a lot of investment and desk space.
      One 49 inch ultra wide would knock off two 27s

      • You disgust me. I was happy enough with the 3x27" but then a post like this got me wondering if I was missing out with no 4K. Now I'm looking at 49" ultra wides haha

        • Do it!!!

    • +1

      The warranty on this is the best, I think. If you get even a single dead pixel, it'll be replaced, while on Gigabyte, Asus etc, depending on the stuck colour, you may have to endure up to 7 pixels.

    • https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/4f971fda…

      M32U:
      - Better connectivity (USB C upstream available), 3 USB downstream (However 3.0 compares to Dell 3.2)
      - KVM (depends on user need, for me it's very convenient)
      - Wider sRGB (123% vs 99%)
      - Built-in audio speakers (as usual a shitty one, but for a person using a 400$ monitor with a 30$ speakers like me it's a plus)

      G3223Q:
      - Better brightness (600cd/m vs 450 cd/m peak)
      - Better HDR (HDR 600 vs 400)

      The G3223Q doesn't have any in-depth review on Youtube yet, so there could be better (or worse) features. People mostly care about HDMI 2.1 (full-bandwidth or half-bandwidth like M32U) and the actual override mode performance (as usual 1ms response time is meaningless when ghosting is too much). For me, if they are at the same price I will go with M32U cause I like KVM/built-in speakers a lot; I also don't care much about brightness (usually use 30% brightness on M28Q right now) or HDR (seriously HDR400 isn't that bad compares to HDR 600). But if the Dell is 200$ cheaper? (profanity) of Gigabyte :D

      • I am pondering between the two. The Gigabyte is $949 after discount om ebay.

      • USB 3.2 gen 1 = USB 3.0.
        M32U's USB-C/PD is 18W (honestly, that's only good for Android mobile phones which support USB-C/alt-mode).
        Dell's sRGB coverage is 133% (measured). The sRGB mode (which clamps it down to sRGB is 99%). Normally, Dell doesn't offer this mode for gaming monitors, but it is good Dell decided to do that for this monitor. It's not perfect (accuracy isn't that great), but it helps so you don't have to get a colour calibrator.

        Dell, one concern is that G series monitors don't generally get customer downable firmware updates.

  • -2

    When Oled, 4K 144Hz $999? Am I still dreaming in 2022 when Oled tech is already 10 years old?

    • ten years is nothing. How many decades did it take LCD to displace CRT and plasma?

      • the funny thing is after they offer strobing OLED we can finally have back CRT level motion clarity

        • I miss the motion of plasma. If only Pioneer continued on with TV and make OLEDs now.

          • @JL1: did they do strobing though you need strobing otherwise you can't match crt, which naturally strobes

            • @abctoz: Doesn't plasma operate differently to allow it to have more organic motion?

              It certainly looked better to me than most OLED up until last year or 2.

              Plasma had a very useful 1080p resolution also!

              • +1

                @JL1: go read up on blurbusters, essentially the human eye needs black frames in between, otherwise you perceive motion blur. plasma and OLED have extremely fast pixel response to make this possible. they can just keep the pixels off most of the time instead of a strobe device I believe

                • @abctoz: Thanks for your response!

              • +1

                @JL1: Yep, they had sub-field drive which made motion look more natural.

  • +3

    I know lot of comparisons are going in here but the biggest advantage of this one is hdmi 2.1 which can do 120HZ @4k for PS5 and XBX.

    • +3

      Be careful about this, we don't know if it's a fullspeed HDMI 2.1 implementation or not on this Dell monitor. The M32U for example has HDMI 2.1, but at half the bandwidth, so PS5 will do 4k120, but at 4:2:0.

      There are some monitors out there with the full fat HDMI 2.1 spec, but they can be quite expensive. One of the top of my head is the LG 27GP950, it has full speed HDMI ports.

      • I think the Dell will be like Gigabyte. I read on the specs, there is mentioning of DSC, which indicating that.

      • One of the top of my head is the LG 27GP950

        How much is that normally?

        • Haven't looked for a while, but $1600 near launch if my memory serves me correctly.

      • second that………. but as you said to get the full speed HDMI 2.1 monitors will certainly cost much more. Lets see how bad the colour will look on this ;)

  • I just bought the M32U, this one is a huge surprise. Main difference I am seeing is the HDR600 vs M32U HDR400. I am wondering how many local diming zones it has as well as it its full HDMI 2.1 speed.

    • 8 diming zones and half the bandwidth of HDMI 2.1

    • It's a monitor, 99.9% of the time the 'hdr' is just a marketing gimmick/lie that'll be worse than running it in SDR.

      • +1

        It's not, I use HDR and prefer the image quality with it on. Didn't take much testing to be apparent either.

  • +1

    Just bought the G7 28" 4K earlier today for around $800 with the afterpay sale and just put in a request for cancellation. Phew. Thank you OP!!!

  • Error “Sorry, your order amount is too high” with an upper limit of $700 via AfterPay… how do I get around this? Can pay for it outright but wanting to take advantage of the discount… Are there no split payments? Help!

  • +2

    Chinese review of the monitor https://youtu.be/thjPECLG61I

    Turn on subs and translation if you need it.

    4.30 minutes in he says the HDMI 2.1 ports only do 24Gbps.

    • But I thought PS5 only supports 120hz anyway, so 24Gbps is enough for 120hz, isn't it?

    • +1

      If this is true, it's a huge blow to this monitor. Thanks for the great info/warning

    • +3

      Thanks for posting the link to the review. However, from the review:

      At SCDC (basically, no DSC compression), it is limited to 4K/120Hz 24Gbps so that means 4K/120Hz 4:2:0. That is currently okay for consoles (PS5) though not perfect for Series X (which does support 4:2:2 in that mode).

      However, once DSC is enabled, from the PC test result (because PC graphics cards generally support DSC), it can do up to 4K/120Hz: 12-bit 4:4:4 in PC-RGB mode. The DisplayPort 1.4 result seems fine for PC gaming.

      Honestly, people really need to think about what they want to get this monitor for. PC gaming or console gaming. If latter, honestly, for the moment, it is fine. It's doubtful consoles will support DSC. Also, there are not going to be a lot of 4K/120fps games on consoles and most of them would be high speed online games, which you are not going to be pausing the games very often to spot the 4:2:2 vs 4:2:0 differences (and there is no 4:4:4 support from consoles for 4K/120 anyway, not with HDR on).

  • What panel? What number of frames?

    • AUO panel. Up to 144Hz (DisplayPort).

    • M320QAN02.C

    • IPS

  • Man soooo tempting, but going to hold out a little more for the incoming 165hz 4k monitors or the neo g8… They're probably going to cost way more than $899, but I'm looking to future proof myself for a couple of years. Plus this looks almost on par with what's already on the market spec wise and that's too much of a compromise in my eyes compared to what you can get at 1440p. Besides it's dell, it'll go on sale again eventually 😅

    • What is on the way that will be better than this?

  • sounds like a great deal, is this recommended for a Mac M1 Pro user in clamshell mode who does terminal/programing work?
    Looking to upgrade my 5year old+ screens

  • Want to know when is that 20% dell deal start this week. Thanks

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