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Basic Variable Rate Home Loan 1.89% (60% LVR), 1.99% (70% LVR), 2.09% (80% LVR) @ 86 400

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Arguably not as good as tic:toc but this fintech bank (86 400) works with mortgage brokers and may be worth a look if tic:toc doesn't like your property or can't give you the loan for whatever reason.
Their "Neat" product has super sharp basic variable rate with no annual/monthly fee, free redraw, $250 establishment fee.

Owner-occupied P&I rates:
60% LVR: 1.89% (1.90% comparison)
70% LVR: 1.99% (2.00% comparison)
80% LVR: 2.09% (2.10% comparison)
85% LVR: 2.54% (2.55% comparison)

Investment P&I rates:
60% LVR: 2.14% (2.15% comparison)
70% LVR: 2.24% (2.25% comparison)
80% LVR: 2.34% (2.35% comparison)

This bank is probably a good long-term solution if you don't want to refinance every 2 years. Their rates tend to be lower than the major banks all year round.

They can also do 85% LVR with no LMI if you're a bit low on your deposit.


No cashback from the bank but I do offer a broker cashback of 0.15% of the loan amount (net of offset and redraw), paid after 2 years if you haven't refinanced or sold the property.
On a $500k loan the broker cashback is $750.

Arman Soetanto
Lending Clinic
M: 0431 825 128
E: [email protected]
W: www.lendingclinic.com.au
CRN 498047 under ACL 384704

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  • +2

    86400 is branch of NAB fyi

    • +3

      😲

      Have you reported it to anyone?

    • 86 400 is owned by NAB but completely separate pricing, 86 400 is online only and is a fintech/neobank, everything is done on an app and no internet banking on a computer (which can be a cool thing or a bad thing).

      • Wait so you made and app and not a website?! wth

        • They have website banking/access in development apparently. Damned if I can find where I read that now though.

          • +1

            @Azmunga: It was in.their email newsletter

    • +1
  • +1

    do i need to pay a lot to refinance from NAB? my comparison is 4.09% lol

    • Same costs as if to refinance to a bank which is not owned by NAB. You're looking at a discharge fee usually $300-$350 for your existing bank, around $300 for the land title office, and the $250 establishment fee from 86 400 you're refinancing to.

  • This deal or Athena?

  • +3

    There's 86400 seconds in one day…

  • +1

    Any ideas how to get NAB to match this price or come close? I've tried in the past with no avail. CBF moving lenders with all the paperwork required and I think NAB know that.

    • +3

      I recently refinanced to Athena. Was very easy probably no more than 1 hour of my time spent and went to unconditionally approved within 6 days.

      Just put in some effort to refinance, it will mean tens of thousands of dollars saved in the mid to long term.

      They have a $250 bonus using referral codes (check previous Athena deals for the referral code randomizer).

      • My problem is our income isn't great on paper so we can't refinance. have never had an issue paying or will however… self-employed, new business, big loss in first year etc etc

        • Got you. Check with a broker in that case, they will do all the hard lifting and tell you what your chances are to successfully refinance. You don't know until you try.

          There is still a lot of competition out there. Good luck

      • did u do it yourself?

        • Yes, totally by myself. It was really easy. Whatever documents they needed they were quick and you could even upload the documents by taking a photo on your phone and sending them as an SMS to them. It was super easy.

          Any questions I had I could SMS them and they would respond really fast.

    • Can try sending in their discharge form and just be super confident when they call about your ability to refinance 😃
      Also if your rate is higher than one of their fixed rates on their website, you can change your loan to a fixed rate (fixed rates are the same for new & existing customers). If you have a lot of cash you want to offset/redraw, can split the loan into 2 loan accounts, one as a fixed rate for the "real loan" and one as a variable rate for the "future/extra loan".

  • -1

    Arguably not as good as tic toc. Demonstrably not as good as Athena.

    • What about the St Georges deal posted yesterday?

  • do they offer interest only and construction loan?

    • Interest only yes, but construction loan is a tough ask for online banks generally

      • ok, what about borrowing in a trust or company?

        • Too complicated 😀
          The main benefits compared to Athena and tic-toc are probably no postcode restrictions (good for regional areas), smaller properties (can be as small as 40 sqm excluding balcony and car space), and 85% LVR without LMI for owner-occupied home. Also likely higher loan amount, let me know if Athena and tic:toc don't give you a large enough loan and I can take a look.

  • +4

    These rates are nothing new… advertising link back to the OPs company =/

    If anyone wants to format betterer, correct as at 15/3/22;

    Owner Occupier, P&I % 0%<=50% LVR 50%<=60% LVR 60%<=70% LVR 70%<=80% LVR* 80%<=90% LVR 90%<=95% LVR
    ING 1.99 1.99 1.99 1.99 2.29 2.79
    Suncorp 1.94 1.94 1.94 2.02 2.29 3.09
    86400 1.89 1.89 1.99 2.09 2.54
    ME Bank 1.98 2.03 2.09 2.14 2.99 3.52
    NAB 2.19 2.19 2.19 2.19 2.99 2.99
    St George 2.14 2.14 2.19 2.19 2.24 2.24
    Bankwest 2.14 2.14 2.14 2.19 2.58 2.99
    AMP 2.19 2.19 2.22 2.22 2.44
    Macquarie 2.14 2.14 2.19 2.24 2.69 3.01
    MyState Bank 2.14 2.14 2.19 2.24 2.53 3.19
    ANZ 2.19 2.19 2.19 2.29 2.98 3.19
    Westpac 2.19 2.19 2.19 2.29 2.29 2.29
    CBA 2.29 2.29 2.29 2.39 2.99 2.99

    Investor, P&I % 0%<=50% LVR 50%<=60% LVR 60%<=70% LVR 70%<=80% LVR* 80%<=90% LVR 90%<=95% LVR
    Suncorp 2.19 2.19 2.19 2.24 2.64
    ING 2.29 2.29 2.29 2.29
    86400 2.14 2.14 2.24 2.34
    AMP 2.34 2.34 2.39 2.39 2.67
    MyState Bank 2.34 2.34 2.39 2.44 2.99
    Macquarie 2.29 2.29 2.39 2.49 3.25
    St George 2.44 2.44 2.49 2.49 2.54 2.54
    Bankwest 2.39 2.39 2.39 2.49 2.99
    ANZ 2.49 2.49 2.49 2.59 3.22 3.79
    CBA 2.49 2.49 2.49 2.59 3.54 4.43
    Westpac 2.49 2.49 2.49 2.59 2.59 2.59
    NAB 2.79 2.79 2.79 2.79 3.34 3.34
    ME Bank 2.98 2.98 2.98 2.98 3.45 5.37

    • +3

      Thanks for betterer format

    • +2

      where did you get this data from? this format is really hard to work with

      there's 6 header columns for LVR%, but a bunch of banks (especially for investors) only have 4-5 values, there's no way to tell which LVR% band is missing.

      This is what I have for Owner Occupier, 86400 and AMP have missing values.

      Owner Occupier, P&I 0%<=50% LVR 50%<=60% LVR 60%<=70% LVR 70%<=80% LVR 80%<=90% LVR 90%<=95% LVR
      ING 1.99 1.99 1.99 1.99 2.29 2.79
      Suncorp 1.94 1.94 1.94 2.02 2.29 3.09
      86400 1.89 1.89 1.99 2.09 2.54
      ME Bank 1.98 2.03 2.09 2.14 2.99 3.52
      NAB 2.19 2.19 2.19 2.19 2.99 2.99
      St George 2.14 2.14 2.19 2.19 2.24 2.24
      Bankwest 2.14 2.14 2.14 2.19 2.58 2.99
      AMP 2.19 2.19 2.22 2.22 2.44
      Macquarie 2.14 2.14 2.19 2.24 2.69 3.01
      MyState Bank 2.14 2.14 2.19 2.24 2.53 3.19
      ANZ 2.19 2.19 2.19 2.29 2.98 3.19
      Westpac 2.19 2.19 2.19 2.29 2.29 2.29
      CBA 2.29 2.29 2.29 2.39 2.99 2.99
  • +1

    When are banks going to accept Bitcoin as collateral?

    • +1

      30 coins should be more than enough for average house in Syd. small amount of coins…

      • I'd be happy with a 40% allocation of BTC instead of a 20% Cash Deposit.

        I'd rather not sell the BTC…

        • if BTC hits $100k, you'll need fewer coins…

        • I sold BTC to make my deposit. I certainly could have got more money when BTC peaked even more but it also meant by homeloan is much lower long term.

          • -1

            @Clear: Crypto/ property…life …all the same ponzi…get in early and let the new comers at the bottom increase the value of yours..

            • -1

              @tunzafun001: I purchased Pre-COVID before things took off big time.

    • +1

      Ledn in Canada only recently was the first CeFi provider to start offering this type of loan for mortgages with BTC as collateral. But unfortunately only for homes in Canada. It is only a matter of time that "traditional" banks catch on. CBA and ANZ already are dabbling with "crypto" and BTC.

    • +1

      when they stop dropping 50-60% in a month.

      • Don't look at short-term price movements.

        It has dropped by 50%+ 8 times in the last 13 years. It has rebounded each and every time to go on to make new all time highs. And everyone that has bought and held for an average period of 3.5 years is in the green.

        It isn't for everyone, and if you don't like volatility stick to precious metals but don't expect same ROI.

        • +2

          Oh you get me wrong - i love crypto and have a huge portfolio.

          Just saying why banks wouldnt take it as collateral because their balance sheets wont be compliant with laws if values plummet overnight.

    • Banks won't accept their own shares as collateral. Good luck.

  • I wanted to refinance Home and Investment loans and had a loan easily pre-approved online by Athena — but when they called to walk through the details they turned me down because they couldn't accept genuine, taxed AirBNB income for an investment property I have.

    @mortgage broker - Do any of these other lenders accept fully documented / proven income like this? (tictok, 86400)

    • +2

      Think the problem with AirBNB is it isn't a stable income.

      My broker said that shares and rental property income is worth something but not 100% (for rental property it is vacancy, maintenance and buffers) so really it is an exercise in frustration.

    • +1

      Agree with netjock above, AirBNB is not considered stable income however if you can provide something like 2 years of records showing the income is fairly stable then you can make your case.

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