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New ThinkPad E14 Gen 4 / 14" FHD / AMD Ryzen 5 5625U / 256GB SSD / 8GB RAM / 300nits / $1088 @ Lenovo (+ 25% off Upgrade Parts)

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Been a long time between drinks with Lenovo TA deals - hopefully this is a good one. Released just 2 weeks ago, the all-new AMD Gen 4 ThinkPad is here at a great price. Apply eCoupon TA-GEN4-E14 at checkout for the discount. Please note the eCoupon also gets you a further 25% off all upgrade components for this PC such as additional RAM, SSD etc, so feel free to upgrade at will. Shipping is around two weeks (confirmed by Lenovo). Call Lenovo's telesales number on 1300 557 073 (until 5pm daily) with any questions. Ends 11:59pm AEST 10/04/22, unless sold out or withdrawn prior. Please stay safe, and enjoy :)

  • AMD Ryzen 5 5625U CPU
  • 14" FHD IPS (1920 x 1080) 300nits
  • 256GB SSD M.2 PCIe (+ $82 for 512GB)
  • 8GB DDR4 SODIMM 3200MHz (+ $150 for extra 16GB)
  • Windows 11 Home 64, Backlit Keyboard
  • 324mm x 220.7mm x 17.9mm (1.64kg)

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  • If I can get 25% off on upgrade components for other laptops I'll definitely buy today!

  • +2

    How does this compare with the P14s Gen 2? Can get it for $1400 with R7-5850U, 16GB soldered with a free slot, and 1080p 400 nits 72% NTSC display at Lenovo EDU.

    • +3

      completely different beast as the P-series are mobile workstation laptops. The e-series is smb / pro-sumer

      They also go cheap on the motherboard chipset which explains why one of it's ports is still old-skool USB 2.0. There's HDMI 2.0 vs HDMI 1.4, and the addition of Lenovo's proprietary docking port.

      The chassis on the P-series is also magnesium alloy so it is weighs less too (1.55 kg vs 1.65),

      Battery capacity is 50whr vs 45 whr.

      • I'd read that the P14s Gen 2 is just a renamed T14 Gen 2. Are they not the same?

        • They have different sets of hardware configurations available.

        • +1

          The P series actually replaces the old W series and they come in different sizes. P14, P15 and P17. There's also a P1 Gen4 (16 inch) with 16:10 display.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad_P_series

          The P series is built for engineers who usually want some kind of workstation gpu (Quadro / RTX Axxxx).

          The P14s (Intel / AMD) is the most compact one they have and it has no option for discrete GPU, but it can be configured to have 400 nit / 500 nit FHD display or a 4K high color gamut display for those needing colour accuracy. But on paper yes the P14s Gen2 is almost like the T14s.

        • Same chassis, but the P14s has certifications for running workstation applications.

          We got some P14s' when T14's were thin on the ground, no difference between the two physically except maybe a minor weight difference, and the P14s tended to be a little more expensive.

  • I am looking at something for my parents to use. I am techy and can fix anything but am about 3 hours away.
    Does anyone have experience with the 'return to depot'? Otherwise I guess I'll head to thegoodguys :)

    • I sent my Lenovo away for 3 weeks and they sent it back to me

      Was good but need another laptop to use while you wait.

      On site probably better or I forget the other option

    • +1

      Get the ones with business warranty where they attend your house / office to repair the laptops if you want hardware repairs covered. It'll be listed as something like 3YOS (3 year on site) on most of them.

      You do pay a premium for it though, you should be able to purchase an "option" for this to add to any thinkpad series.

      • Totally worth it. You don’t part with your data and your computer can be used (assuming it’s not a catastrophic issue) while you wait for service. You also can keep an eye out on the technician as sometimes they make mistakes or shortcuts.

        • Thanks for the thoughts peeps!

    • -2

      Get them a MacBook. Easy UI and apple support has way less bs than lenovo

  • DP1.2 and HDMI 1.4 output. You will have hard time connecting 4k monitors. Go for Intel version if you need HDMI 2.0

    • Specs pdf claims 4k@24hz via HDMI, 4k@60hz on USB-C. Allow an extra few dollars for an adaptor if your monitor isn't usb-C, not a big problem.

      • I have gen 2 version of this laptop. It is bit hard to find a dock that uses DP 1.2 because most of the docks use 1.4 instead.

  • +1

    Any new promo code for legion 5 pro 16 amd ? want to buy one. Missed during "AUTUMNAU" coupon sale.

    • Me too for the legion series!

  • No GPU ?

    • These amd models have a nice inbuilt GPU thats ok for 1080p low/med 720p high gaming. From personal experience have a e14 gen 2 with 4500u processor

  • shabaka approves

    incremental improvements to what was already my preferred day to day machine for 99% of users

    • good screen 300 nit
    • good keyboard
    • good build and great balance between weight and resistance to external force
    • fast CPU
    • great upgradeablility

    I must add though that people looking for better screens might want to look at X13 instead

    • 300 nits is borderline acceptable, but not particularly good. It’s fine if your room isn’t particularly bright but not good for outdoors, even in the shade. The build on the E series is fine if you treat it well, otherwise get something a bit more robust.

      • +1

        220 nit - barely usable, only in dim light
        250 nit - a bit better, but you will struggle sitting indoors next to a window on a sunny day
        300 nit is golden standard as is usually enough for all indoor use. you will struggle outside
        400 nit - a bit better, max brightness might be a bit too much inside, but may be just about usable in an outdoor cafe in shade
        1000 nit and up - direct sun readable
        5000000 nit - sets nearby cathedral on fire

        300 nit is plenty enough for most people.

        if you work outdoors most of the time, majority of laptop models are NOT for you

        • 400 nit - a bit better, max brightness might be a bit too much inside, but may be just about usable in an outdoor cafe in shade

          Mute point when you can lower the brightness level on a laptop

          • +2

            @MuddyClear: this is just to highlight that you don't really need 400nit, unless you intend to use the system outdoors. 400nit is good enough for outdoors in the shade

            want a better description, write one yourself then

            • @shabaka: You don’t want to be maxing out the brightnesses all the time as this means draining the battery faster

              • @happychappy1: where's this coming from

                I never suggested running display at full brightness

                I am talking about maximum brightness display is capable of, and user adjusts brightness to match current work environment. each display has its maximum and you won't be able to adjust above that if you are working in brighter conditions, that's all.

                • @shabaka: No, but if you say 300 nits is "enough", then you're saying you basically need to run it at full brightness. A lot of public spaces are actually really brightly lit (more so than a residential home), meaning you're going to need to run it at it's full brightness in order to comfortably see everything clearly. Basically you want to match the level of ambient lighting.

                  The problem with these cheaper displays is that they're highly variable in terms of the colours they can display (tending towards 'washed out').

                  The specs suggest that the IPS 300 nit display can either be "100% sRGB with 1200:1 contrast" (good) or "45% NTSC with 800:1 contrast" (bad). It's a lottery as to which one you'll get, as the configurator doesn't specify. I would be willing to guess you'll get the cheaper/worse one. With a display with poorer colours and contrast, brightness does help significantly in making things more readable.

                  This is all based on my own experiences.

                  https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_E…

  • idk how i felt about thinkpads from my past experience they are terrible. i bought one which has audible static noises from the laptop then its being plugged in. got it swapped. came back with one which pcb flexes when holding on the right which made the m.2 port loose. so loose that picking the laptop up from the right will cause it to get a blue screen. got it fixed and they changed the pcb but the current one only takes in a single stick of ram. if both sticks are plugged in it wouldn't even post. both ram works before the fix too.

    • Which model did you have?

      • E485 with the first gen ryzen mobile cpu

        • first few models were awful. A475, A485 and other same gen AMD based Lenovo's were a massive flop. we recalled all of those, they are just plain unreliable

          current gen is very solid

          • @shabaka: welp… thats just unfortunate on my end i guess

        • you might have been unlucky, ive had the e485 before and didnt have those issues. thats what made me get the e495 and other t and x series.

    • +1

      I bought two very similar models for my kids for uni including the e485 and they’ve never skipped a beat. I chose them because they are tough, especially the screen, compared to many similar laptops, and that seems to have borne out.

  • +1

    $150 to upgrade from 8gb to 16gb Ram (with discount) seems a bit steep, but the upgrade to ryzen 5 to 7 for $75 seems like an ok deal?

    • Perhaps TA is saying it’s $150 for an extra 16GB to make a total of 24GB. Still not sure if that’s a worthwhile upgrade but some people need all the rams

      • +3

        I'm finding users that do even a moderate amount of multitasking exhaust 8GB pretty quickly these days.

        For work (small IT service provider) I've been only selling models with 16GB for even low end basic users to avoid any potential headaches.

        Personally I can get by on 8 but 16 is much more comfortable.

      • if it’s 16GB soldered onto the board then I would pay. Otherwise it’s much cheaper to just get the 8GB SODIMM yourself and install it later.

        • It would be an additional 16gb, as per the listing it's 8gb onboard memory (soldered) and they would give you an additional stick.

    • Yeah ram should be easy enough to install and you can add a 16gb stick for 24 total for less than 150.

      I'd go the ryzen 7 too though for only $75.

      • Do note that once your open the bottom cover, some tabs are bound to break. No matter what tool you use.

        It has clip type tabs which are extremely easy to break. Itll feel a tad loose after someone had opened it.

        • +1

          is that the E series specifically?

          Haven't had that issue with the L13/14 personally

          • @knk: Yes e485 / e495 / e14 gen 2 specifically, the e series has clips that wrap around the chassis.

            newer X and T usually have bottom 'lids' therefore dont have this issue, not sure about L as I dont have experience

        • It depends on the quality of the plastic they use and the strength of the clips. Some manufacturers use really flimsy ones and it’s true that they do break easily. And also the technician who opens up the machine (how careful they are).

        • Haven't had a problem with opening my T480. Must've opened it no less than 5 times over the last 3-4 years, replacing RAM, internal battery, SSD X2 etc.

          Also successfully replaced the display with a 400nit panel, but broke a clip on the display bezel doing that.

          • @Omk4r123: Indeed, that's why I'd rather pay the extra and get the better panel from factory if possible.

            Older thinkpads like X260 are a bit better and have tabs that hold the panel to the frame, newer ones like x13/t14/e14 have adhesive. When you take the frame off, you'll tear the panel's plastic which kind of ruins the old panel.

        • is this your experience with the e series specifically?

          i've found the t1x/p1xs series to be flimsier and the e series have been rock solid in my experience

          • @peter05: yes all my e series have been like that, the newer x13/t14 dont have this issue as it has a 'lid' type of cover for the bottom part

            • @wombok2: when you say "lid" style, it's because it doesn't have the wrap around 5 sides of the laptop correct?

              I've found the "lid" style to be far flimsier and if you're not careful how you put it back on, you'll mangle those little clips

              i haven't broken any on my multiple e series laptops yet but t1x/p1xs series haven't fared so well

              • @peter05: Yes, you are right. With the lid, you can still be 'careful' without breaking the clips.

                But on the other hand, the e series, there's like probably 5 clips on the front, held by 2 screws on each side. Break any of those middle clips and you'll have a looser centre section.

                I find it impossible not bend/break any clips even with the recommended tools.I just don't think it was designed to be opened after factory as opposed to other series which have a more 'serviceable' cover.

                • +1

                  @wombok2: i think i must be very lucky then. I normally just run an old credit card along the edge pushed into the laptop and its popped them off each time.

                  on the other hand with the lid style ones, i've found if you try and close it up and the clips are missaligned its going to be a bad time.

                  i think with the e series the clips are more "old school" being that they're just little tabs whereas the t/p series ones are designed and precision moulded to only fit in a particular way. the difference between the two for me is probably that the e series is metal which i prefer, over the poly carbonate or whatever material they make the "lids" out of. "luckily" with the lack of expansion options in the t series you're not likely to be opening it often, whereas the e series at least has additional m.2 slot

                  • @peter05: You raise an interesting point about 'metal' e series. All of mine have been plastic(I actually prefer it over the rubbery texture of the T/X), but I do know some e has the option of coming in an aluminum base and cover. Unfortunately my current e14 gen 2 didnt have this option from factory and I haven't tried an aluminum version myself.

                    Maybe that's the difference and one I should aim for when the ryzen 6000 series come out.

  • As a work laptop this or Macbook air?

    • Do you need any Linux/Windows specific software? What OS are you more comfortable with? Do you need Mac OS? Do you need and are you able to fork out for 16GB / 1TB upfront? The Mac is not upgradable. You’re looking at $2149 minimum for those specs on the Mac.

    • Just gone from a higher end Lenovo to the air myself and have zero regrets

  • how's this one compare to https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/691663 ?

    • +2

      I think the other one is better!

  • Hi TA, any deal for Lenovo ThinkPad T14s?

    • Does anyone know what would be the cheapest way to get:

      ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 14" - 11th Gen Intel. Right now I'm logged in from my edu account and getting the code JUSTYOLKIN. Bringing the total down to $1,759.12 for the i5 version.

  • Please do a deal on the 15.6" version of the E series.
    Ready to buy 2.

    I miss those

  • Used to be a time that you brought out Thinkpad E14 deals almost on monthly basis(using one typing now).

    Return of those deals is def welcomed. Thanks, TA.

  • +1

    Damn, I bought the E14 Gen 3 only a few weeks ago……… .although it was much cheaper than this and with similarish looking specs (obviously on clearance). But still, instantly out of date lol.

    • May i know which one u bought? Thanks

      • I mentioned it in my post - E14 Gen 3, same RAM and SSD, Ryzen 55xx.

        • +1

          Same! But honestly this doesn't seem like a great upgrade for the price (unless you NEED that small increase in CPU power). I paid $850 (fingerprint reader upgrade) and then put in an extra 8gb ram and 500gb ssd in and its beautiful. This model still has the silly drawbacks of the gen 3 such as usb 2.0 and outdated HDMI.
          Sucks to be outdated instantly, but for the price I'm not that annoyed.

          • +1

            @Leif12: Have your Rewards points appeared in your Lenovo account yet? Looking to buy their 14" sleeve while on sale before I do some OS travel.

        • Don't worry the 5625U isnt that much better than your 5500U. The upcoming 6600U will be worth being upset about haha.

          • @wombok2: Let's wait and see what the price of the laptop is before I will be feeling upset.

  • I have a Lenovo X1 Carbon 2015 and it has been one of the best laptops I've ever had for a Windows machine,bar the one time it suddenly turned off and didn't turn back on for ages.

    At the time I saw a code on ozb and it took off 50% of the RRP which meant I only spent 1.8K on this custom spec. I'd definitely buy it again.

    Also while I'm here, I'm looking at purchasing a gaming laptop (portable), any suggestions would be great. Currently looking at ASUS TUF and Razer

    • X1 Carbon Gen 10 trickling out now

    • Asus tuf seems to have cooling issues (im looking too!). Acer nitro looks to be good on a budget and lenovo legion, zephyrus, razer and alienware seem to be the ones to beat though

  • how does this compare to a macbook air m1 with parrarel windows 10 install

    • It will be faster then an M1 for running native Windows and Linux/BSD vs Parallels.M1 will of course be faster for MacOs applications.The 5625U is a 6 core CPU based on AMD Zen 3. If you need to run MacOs go with the M1. If you need Windows and compatible hardware this deal is a good option.

  • Do people still use that red dot mouse thingy?

    • It's called the nipple

    • the 'keyboard clit', I like it for some things but would use mouse/track pad over it 96/100

    • Yes, once you got used to it, it is surprisingly convenient!

    • I do, I hate trackpads.

  • +1

    The nipple on mine always gone missing, I find that kids are extremely attracted to that only red dot.

  • Bought a Gen2 E14 that I use only for work - great laptop.

  • Any E15 on promotion?

    • What is the difference between the E14 and the E15 apart from the size?

      • E15 has the number pad

        • Cheers, is that it?

  • Is this a good deal? Or just cause TA posted we have nearly 100 upvotes 😂

  • This or this

    • Yeah. I was looking at that as well.

    • This one would definitely be a better choice, a better one to decide between is this model and this one https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/691663

      • I thought the Ideapad 5 pro would be better. Better screen, more ram, more disk space, better ports, better camera, and lighter. I'm guessing the E14 will be tougher and better build quality.

        • Honestly screen won't really matter when it's only 14", the big issue with the Ideapad 5 Pro is that it has a worse CPU (only $75 to upgrade to the 5825U) and you cannot add more ram or disk space if you ever wanted to in the future.

          • @StickBug: The SSD in the ideapad is replaceable with a bigger one though not expandable through an additional slot.

          • @StickBug: The screen in the ideapad is touch and 100 percent colour gamut which could be a key deciding factor for many users

  • Gettem boys, thanks for the replies. Are the new ryzen 5 and 7s adequate for gaming or stick with nvidia gpus?

    • It depends if you are a casual gamer or not. There are plenty of YouTube videos showing the performance of the iGPU since the launch of the Ryzen 4000 series in 2020, 5000 seres in 2021 and 6000 series in 2022. The 6000 series iGPU with RDNA2, used in PS5 and Xbox, is a significant step up and allows good performance at 1080p. If you want everything at very high or Ultra in modern games I would still recommend a dedicated AMD Radeon on Nvidia GPU.

      • Sweet. Would their be a big difference in choosing either the new AMD radeon or nvidia 30 series gpu?

        • +1

          If you just want raw fps performance in games they are pretty similar and trade blows. There is proprietary eye candy stuff, but it just depends on if the game supports it or not.

        • +1

          not many, if not hardly any laptop comes with radeon rx6000s

          rx6600m is slightly below or pars thereabouts with nvidia 3060 mobile, depending on laptop's power delivery limits

          both good for 1080p games, else go for nvidia 3060 if 1440p

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