Lenovo XiaoXin Pad Plus (11" 2K, 6GB/128GB, SD750G, Widevine L1) US$249.46 (~A$357.40) Shipped @ Lenovo Online Store AliExpress

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  nickeveli on 19/05/2022 - 21:48

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  @Clear what do you think is the best value tablet with 4G, Widevine L1 and USB-C?

  PS thanks for all your great tablet deals!

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    Clear on 19/05/2022 - 23:20

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    Best value tablet in general has always been the original Lenovo Xiaoxin / P11 as it ticks all the boxes, except for 4G unless you want to pay a lot more for the LTE variant. For me I tend to just hotspot from a phone. The more recent downside is that there's issues with Netflix staying in HD.

    I believe the Xiaomi Pad 5 is probably the best more mid-range to high end tablet, but again no 4G and some more issues caused by Netflix.

    If you managed to score the Samsung Tab A8 4G or if it goes to a similar price again I think it's probably the best value budget tablet. You know you're going to get a few updates, it has 4G, the Widevine L1 works perfectly and of course USB-C. The UNISOC T618 is decent but let down by 4GB RAM.

    And since we're on the topic of tablets I'm keen for the Realme Pad Mini due to it being 8.7". Kinda let down as the screen isn't FHD, only 4GB RAM, 64GB storage and a UNISOC T616 being on the lower end of mid-range. For the high end I'm waiting on discounts for the new Oppo Pad that has the SD870 and costs around $450 USD. There's also the soon to be released Oppo Pad Air with an SD680 that should be around $350 USD.

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      nickeveli on 20/05/2022 - 08:30

      Thanks Clear!

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  gy on 19/05/2022 - 23:10

  So pentile OLED panel is not good for reading text but better for watching videos?

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    Clear on 19/05/2022 - 23:12

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    That's right. You can see the difference between pentile and standard RGB displays here. Basically the text on a pentile display will be a little bit blurry up close.

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      gy on 19/05/2022 - 23:18

      Thanks @Clear

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  nGu on 20/05/2022 - 10:49

  What do you think happened to the prices? I was going to buy the alldocube kpad and it went up by $50 as well :(

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    Clear on 20/05/2022 - 11:01

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    I talked to Alldocube at length about the kPad. They were clearing out stock on the kPad from all their warehouses since it's been superseded by the slightly smaller 10.1" Smile X tablet and that's why it was being sold for ~$118 USD. More recently the EU warehouse had it at $99 USD. They said now that there is less stock it's back to the normal price of $140 USD.

    We can blame Russia for the rest of the price hikes on just about everything.

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      nGu on 20/05/2022 - 11:17

      Ugh thought as much. Might have to wait for 11.11 to see what budget-range tablet comes out from China for $150. Kicking myself for not buying it when I had the chance.

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  tbone74 on 20/05/2022 - 16:56

  Is there a 2020 and 2021 version of this? I can only see proper references to the Pro having 2 versions but OzBargain list a Plus 2020 and Plus 2021 version, with different deals mentioned for each.

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    Clear on 20/05/2022 - 16:57

    Pad Pro 2020 and Pad Pro 2021

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      tbone74 on 20/05/2022 - 17:02

      Right, those are the 2 different PRO models. My question is whether there is actually 2 different PLUS models.

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/product/lenovo-tab-p11-plus
      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/product/lenovo-tab-p11-plus-202…

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        Clear on 20/05/2022 - 17:10

        Oh that's just bad tagging by a moderator. There is however two variants of the Plus. The international version uses an inferior MediaTek CPU.

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          tbone74 on 20/05/2022 - 21:09

          @Clear: Thanks, that's what I thought, just wanted to be sure.

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          nudy on 21/05/2022 - 22:43

          @Clear: Two variants of PLUS and PRO models. I'm so confused. @Clear please see my comment below ;)

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            Clear on 21/05/2022 - 22:45

            @nudy: Pro 2020 and Pro 2021. Only one Plus model in China that Ive shared.

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              nudy on 23/05/2022 - 02:29

              @Clear: Thanks @Clear! This might be asking too much but I'm a bit stumped with the different P11 variations (Plus, Pro, 2020, 2021) and their differences in processors, screens, etc. Any chance you can give a few words on the different offerings from worst to best models and the key +/- points (including any possible problems with Widevine, Netflix and Global/Chinese ROMs) ?

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  tbone74 on 20/05/2022 - 21:19

  Seems to be cheaper on Banggood at the moment.

  Although it mentions the following

  Attention:This model is not Global Rom,is third-party rom and suppoort google play store and multi languages.It doesnt support Widevine L1 and ota update os.

  Not sure what the implications of this are or if the AliExpress ones are the same? Going to dig through some of the previous deals comments.

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    Clear on 20/05/2022 - 21:27

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    Banggood put that as a general disclaimer on the Lenovo tablets as their P11 Pro 2021 had an unlocked bootloader and that causes Widevine L1 to become L3. The P11 Plus SD750G never received a global release so there's no official global ROM, however the P11 Plus 5G SD750G did, so some sellers flash that ROM onto this.

    Looking at the BG reviews it seems this has Widevine L1. Though my comments about the Widevine L1 issues will likely still apply. Good find regardless.

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      tbone74 on 20/05/2022 - 21:54

      Thanks. So the experience should be the same between the AliExpress and Banggood supplied units right?

      I found some comments in a previous deal about the global ROM for the 5G. Should be able to follow the instructions linked on those comments to apply the global ROM I believe, even over these custom ROMs the sellers are installing?

      Does having an official global ROM installed mean it would then be able to take OTA updates? Or does being a different model than intended for the ROM prevent that?

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        Clear on 21/05/2022 - 22:12

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        Assuming it's the global ROM for the 5G version then OTA updates should work. It's only when they start using unofficial stitched up ROMs that it shouldn't work. Unfortunately I don't know for certain.

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        Clear on 23/05/2022 - 22:51

        I asked BG if they could offer a deal on the P11 Plus. They said they only have about 10 in stock so that's a no go :(

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  nudy on 21/05/2022 - 03:38

  Hi @Clear, Appreciate your efforts in sharing all these great tablet deals. To be honest, I'm a bit stumped with the different P11 variations and their differences in processors, screen, etc. Any chance you can give a few words on the different offerings from worst to best models and the key differences (including any possible problems with
  ROMs) ?

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    Clear on 23/05/2022 - 22:56

    Lenovo Tab P11 sits at the bottom with a much older Snapdragon 662 CPU but for the price is really good value and offers solid performance. Following that you have the Lenovo Xiaoxin Pad Pro 2020 which has quite a few improvements as you can see in the deal's table.

    Following that Pad Pro 2020 is the Xiaoxin Pad Plus in this deal - it's more of a sidegrade than an upgrade for the reasons I've mentioned in the post. A downside of the Pad Plus is it never received an official global ROM so it's often flashed with the 5G version that does. Following that you get the Xiaoxin Pad Pro 2021 and in the table you can see it's basically a much better CPU/GPU, battery and faster memory/storage. The downside of the 2021 is that it never received an official global ROM like the Plus so you often get an unofficial ROM, or the Chinese Android ROM called ZUI.

    The downside across all of them is that Widevine L1 for Netflix doesn't function properly and results in SD playback. Each individual deal has a description of brief pro/cons and reviews.

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      nudy on 24/05/2022 - 01:39

      Thanks @Clear - this helps a lot.
      Does the Netflix SD problem occur on all of the tablet deals you have posted in the past few months?

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  tbone74 on 22/05/2022 - 14:52

  It seems the XiaoXin Pad Plus only comes in white? I see the non Plus versions have a grey option, as does the local Lenovo P11 Plus. Anybody seen the XiaoXin Pad Plus version in grey?

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    Clear on 23/05/2022 - 22:59

    Besides the local MediaTek variant and the 5G version it's only in White.