How Do People Afford Driving Luxury Cars?

Hi ozbargainers. I’ve been pondering about this question in the back of my mind for quite sometime now. Maybe I have been paying too much attention to luxury cars on the road while stuck waiting in traffic. I’m seeing plenty of folks driving luxury cars all around Sydney, whether it’s in the Eastern Suburbs or Western Suburbs. I would say a third of the cars on the roads are luxury brands, e.g. Lexus, Land Rover Discovery, Audi, BMW and Mercedes-Benz, Tesla etc… And that got me thinking.

How do most people afford to buy Luxury cars when the median wage in Australia is roughly $55k to $60k a year the last time we had a discussion on this topic a few months ago.
I’m not jealous of folks buying and driving Luxury cars, frankly, I don’t really care what cars people drive but this particular conundrum caught my attention and got me thinking. Could I afford driving a Luxury Car? And the answer is a NO!

I’m currently earning about $75k and single. After Tax, I take home about $1100 a week. Rent is $480 (Rent cost may be increasing in the near future). Phone + Internet + entertainment (streaming services etc..) bills are approx $50 a week. Fuel is approx $80 to $100 per week. Weekly grocery + lunch/coffee are approx $200. A night out on weekend approx $30 to $50.
So all up, my expenditure is about $850 to $900 a week just to survive on bare minimum necessity in life. So, I’d be lucky to save $200 to $300 a week. I know some folks and families are having it tough earning much less and survive on a even tighter budget, but that is for another discussion.

Looking at my wage + living expenses, I couldn’t afford to drive a luxury car. I just don’t have the money, not that I would want to if I had the money to do so. I’m comfortable driving my Kia, taking me from point A to point B.

So my question is, I’m seeing plenty of folks and my peers paying $700 to $1000 a week in rent alone, shopping and wearing designer clothings, eat out at fancy restaurants almost every weekend, frequent weekend getaways, yearly oversea holidays, using new and latest phones and electronic gadgets and driving Luxury cars costing over $90k. All are on a $90k to $110k salary at most. If I were to earn $100k tomorrow, I would only bring home an extra $300 a week. And having an extra $300 doesn’t allow me to spend on luxury things nor can it improve my lifestyle that much. A basic 2 bedroom apartment in the inner Suburbs pretty much costs $650 to $800 a week. So, with a $100k salary (an increase from my current $75k to $100k, hypothetically speaking), I may be able to move and live closer to the city by paying an extra $300 in rent every week. And there goes my $25k increase in salary. I would still only be able to save $200 to $300 a week at most (like i have been doing so on my $75k salary) with no other significant change to my lifestyle.

I have seen folks working in retails (cashiers in Myer etc..) driving luxury cars, got their nails done, hair done + designer brand makeups + monthly botox/cosmetic treatments + perfumes. How are they doing all this? Are most people on a $120k to $150k salary? The median wage figure in Australia doesn’t reflect that.
On my $75k wage, I could barely afford anything. I don’t get my nails done, cut my own hair, no makeups, no botox or cosmetic treatments, no fancy clothes. Still using my old phone from 2016.

I know there are a lot of wealthy folks in Sydney but still, i don’t think they make up for a third of the luxury cars on the road, especially when taken into account of the median wage in Australia. In addition to owning a luxury car, I’m guessing it’s also costly to buy car insurance and on-going maintenance too?

With today’s crazy housing market. I couldn’t afford to pay mortgage if the Bank were to grant me a $1mil loan tomorrow. In most if not all inner suburbs, heck, even in Parramatta, I don’t think you can find anything decent for less than $1.5mil. So how do people service a loan in the $1 to $2 mil range?? Even with a $100k salary, that’s barely enough to service the monthly mortgage for a $1mil loan. Let alone any left over $$$ to spend on luxury cars, and that’s without adding foods + other living expenses to the equations. The maths just don’t add up.

Just having my long shower thought. I’m looking forward to seeing what y’all think about this. Enjoy your weekend, you savvy bargain hunters!

Comments

    • My sister owes more today than she did 12 years ago when they got the loan 🤦

      • Damn, she didn't pay off the principle?

        • Constant refinancing, like others have said, borrowing more and more as equity increases. The constant quest to keep up with the 'Joneses'

      • Holy shit.

    • yup with Aussies' spending habits that I have seen "nah I'm kinda broke but Imma get that" kinda thing

  • +4

    Just as a note, some people have different priorities - I'd rather have a luxury car than have a holiday in a decade

  • +8

    I've met a few types of luxury car friends.
    1. high income, like 200K+
    2. wealthy family
    3. very high car loan

  • Its just cool at the moment to own a expensive car and small cars are uncool.
    30k " SUV" like CX-3 everywhere.

  • +15

    You'd be surprised how many ppl finance a luxury car beyond their means. Have seen it too many times

    Never be envious of the car someone drives. You just never know how it was paid for

    • +1

      You don't have to be surprised, it's mentioned every other OzBargain thread: 90% of cars in Australia are financed. The vast majority of Australians are paying double what their cars are worth over time, for cars they actually can't afford to buy outright.

      • +1

        Sheesh, that's high.

        • Surely 90% is made up, or is that new cars only? Makes sense that new cars are mostly financed, but I’d be fairly confident that of cars older than the average (10ish years) most are bought with cash.

          • @Euphemistic: Yeah might be 90% of new cars.

            This is a bit of a conundrum, it's actually a good thing for the second hand market hat business takes the hit on depreciation. For personal use no one should even be thinking of getting a new car, at least traditionally, currently the evond hand prices are a bit nuts

            • @Jackson: Yep new cars:

              https://nodifi.com.au/resources/car-financing-australia-deal…

              But I'm not certain the numbers are drastically lower for used vehicles, at least not for newer/pricier ones.

              (Remember, OzBargain commenters are going to be a lot more careful with their dollars than the average population).

              • @ItsMeAgro: Somehow I can't see anyone picking up a private sale car and going to the effort of organising finance, I don't know maybe that's just me. I could see anyone going to a dealership being funnelled over to the finance area

      • Interesting stat. Got any source to back that up?

  • +7

    I would say that some KIA's are now in the luxury car price. The KIA Carnival Platnium diesel is $76K

    • +2

      and you're slugged with a LCT too!

      Kind of feels dirty paying LCT on a Kia.

  • +22

    Stupidly sized loans. I have friends who don't think twice about taking out a car loan for $150k but then whinge about life being tough. They're also largely over extended on mortgages too.

    We just bought a new car after 10 years. Almost made me sick to drop $55k. Paid cash.

    • +12

      We paid $45k cash for our car last year and got a number of people asking "oh did you get a nice deal on the interest rate?" I was just surprised how many thought it was financed

      • Most cars are financed.

        90% of new cars in Australia are financed. Dealer finance penetration is around 30% source

        • +1

          New cars. Not all cars.

    • the best way is to pay things for cash- that way you see the amount of money being used rather than credit cards- and be more frugal

  • +19

    Onlyfans. Drugs. Family money. Crypto. Debt.

    But seriously, a lot of people can afford this silly lifestyle only just, but they aren't building wealth. No investing and don't own property. Just week to week for the Insta life.

    • yep, our social security will fail in the next 30 years

      • This is an interesting question/thought experiment. Say you have a single mum who fled an abusive relationship and got nothing, she deserves a pension when the time comes.

        Say the husband was the sole breadwinner and pissed his entire earnings up against a wall daily, does he deserve the pension? Some would say it cheaper to pay him the pension than it is to lock him up. Currently they both get it. Then say he complains about it not being enough, should we raise it?

        • Was he found guilty in a court of law? If not then he is entitled like anyone else. If he is guilty of something illegal then he can pay the fine and or do the time. Once that has been done then he is entitled to a pension like anyone else.

          The term “abusive relationship” is very serious but can be thrown around a lot when nothing illegal (or abusive) was actually done. Only need to see a particular recent event (Heard/Depp) as cold hard evidence. That happens all the time to guys who can’t afford to defend themselves.

  • +12

    Looking at some of my young colleagues many of them get excited and use up a large proportion of their income on paying off high interest car loans on expensive cars…. and then 5 years later complain how unfair it is that they can't afford to buy a house

    • +6

      Tbf, even if you saved up a hypothetical $100k by not buying a luxury car, a house in Sydney or Melbourne is still wildly unattainable.

      I mean, it's dumb to get a car on a high interest loan, but it's not really the reason they can't buy a house.

      • +4

        i think if you're the type to buy a 100k car- then you're the type to prob want a 6 bdr mansion/house right in the city with great views…

      • Why? There's plenty of houses in outer suburbs (more than 35km away or an hour by transport) going for under 1M. Saving the deposit has been cited as the single hardest barrier to entry when buying a house

        • +4

          Normalising spending 2.5+ hrs daily commuting to work just to be able to afford a place is pretty disingenuous. Just because it's possible doesn't mean it should be accepted as reasonable. There are so many other costs borne by that including health, relationships.

          But back to the point of the thread, I fully agree you'd be an idiot to consider taking on massive high interest debt for what is essentially a tool to get you from A-B.

  • +6

    a lot of them are living with mummy and daddy and dont have to pay rent or mortgage. so they blow their wages on junk.

    • And once they get used to that new car, they can't go back

  • +3

    lease or/and car loan.
    I drive 12 yr old Honda and see absolutely no point in spending much money on the cars as I rarely drive more than I need to.
    But if you drive for work and kind of ppl who go out on weekends on the long drive, I understand the desire of having a 2nd space where you can enjoy.

  • +10

    Living at home till they’re 30+ and not contributing financially.

    • -1

      Investing in the share market. Or cypto

  • +5

    Most of these people on low incomes are living beyond their means… thats how they “afford” things, they currently have a clean credit record, and can afford these on credit, or be approved on a number of small personal loans…. Down the track they will be the ones blaming society for their incompetence in understanding the value of money they never earnt

  • A lot of people are rich in Australia relative to your and my income due to various reasons like business, high paid professions. And some people who can’t afford can and will buy those cars because of finance. They don’t care about repayments while buying, but some regret while paying them every month.

    We had a discussion at home recently at home. My wife want a big car and I convinced her about petrol, insurance, tyres, services. So we went with small second hand car.

    It’s all about your priorities. If you want to buy luxury car, you can do it with your income. Go for sharing with 2-3 people so your monthly expenses come down to 1500$. With remaining money you can easily do repayments for a car.

    • +1

      So we went with small second hand car.

      Toyota Corolla?

      • +6

        Suzuki swift

    • That makes sense dude.

    • +3

      Yes or buy assets or whatever you desire. Freedom of choice.

      Good for you for educating your wife and taking the time to make a good decision

      But you must enjoy the consequences

  • +1

    A night out on weekend approx $30 to $50

    Yeah you doing it wrong. But your rent is too high

    • +7

      sounds like the taxi fare……

      • +1

        …for part of one way.

    • +7

      A effing hamburger, chips and a drink in a regional town is $30+.

    • +1

      That's a couple drinks at best

    • +3

      Getting drunk before you leave home is the cheapest night out.

      • getting drunk at home is more cost effective

    • +2

      Yeah $30 for a night out, what the hell is this guy smoking? Has he ever even had a "night out"

  • Look up rich dad poor dad … get rich (or die trying)

    • +9

      That guy is a con artist

    • 50 cent?

    • No the dudes a grifter.

  • +13

    Rent is $480

    You are single and that’s $50 more than our family of 4 and we live in a decent place in a decent area. It could have been $500-$550 easily but I rather save the $5,000 per year towards other things the family needs.

    You could easily save $10k a year from rent alone and buy yourself a luxury car after 5 years. I would say you could save up to $15k-$20k a year if you tried hard but obviously you have a high everyday standard of living as your priority.

  • Some can afford it others see it as a status symbol and are either leasing or loans.

    For some people image is everything of course recently my own reaction surprised me.

    I bought a Audi tt roadster to flip i took it for a drive out of town to check everything was running alright and i put the top down on the way back into town I felt like a right poser I felt that embarrassed. Each to their own I guess my wife wants to keep it though not practical for us as we have a family. Sometimes people have different ideas of success or maybe they just want it.

  • +4

    I know a few friends with $100K plus cars and they all run their own small businesses.
    Zero inheritance, only fans or junk nonsense.
    They work hard, profitable and enjoy life.

    • +11

      Man I gotta get into the fan selling business, it's a bloody gold rush

    • Wonder how long only fans can last

    • +3

      Legit or shonky tax?

  • +2

    They do it by choosing not to be poor.
    Libertarian neoliberalism rocks!!

    • Neoliberalism
      Libertarian

      Pick one

  • +22

    I may get negative but this is what I know from Bansktown and surrounding suburbs.

    Wife is driving luxury cars like Land cruiser and Audi. She has on average 3 kids on back of the car. Husband is either laboruer, tradie or working in security. They get over 75% of their income in cash so no tax declaration. Being a lower income earner, they get all sort of incomes from Centrelink including parental income. They will easily get over $1500 per fortnight with Centrelink alone.

    • Ato will hit them eventually given their spending habits

      • +12

        I am still awaiting for ATO to hit few I know.

        It's been over 12 years lol

        • +2

          Cash is the best way to launder money.

          The tax office will always be chasing a losing battle as long as cash exists.

          • +5

            @rektrading: Getting paid cash and then using it to buy shit is not money laundering

            • @Muzeeb: My 💩 dealer only wants cash.

              They say it's easier to 📦 $10,000s in 🎒 than 🏦 that asks too many questions.

              • +6

                @rektrading: Lot of people who earns cash do yearly overseas trips, carry cash just below $10k and split between family members, and then buy properties overseas with cash.

                Back in the days when Uber was not around and Tax had monopoly, Taxi drivers earnt over $150k but declared only less than $30k. Got all sort of benefits from Centrelink on the top. I personally know at least half a dozen people..

                There is extensive loophole with cash and ATO can never pick it up.

                • +2

                  @Ash-Say: Whistle blowers to the ATO get most peopel

    • +11

      Let me add fuel to the fire. The wife and husband are also divorced/separated but still living in the same house. So the wife is receiving single mother assistance for even more money.

      • And goes to food bank every week

  • +4

    shower done yet?

  • Do luxury brand new cars only start from $60k? Thats not a lot get onboard, not to say second hand ones.

    You can certainly finance one or save a few years to pay it off upfront if you prioritise it before owning a property.

    • +2

      $60k entry point is a luxury car? No wonder OP is seeing many.

      Even a Camry costs $40k these days.

  • +4

    Some are probably born rich. Apart from luxury cars, I also can’t fathom the idea of paying $250k for a Steinway and Sons grand piano for kids to practise on.

    • +2

      Jesus I never realised that's how much those cost!

    • There's always Boston and Essex when you can't be bothered paying $90k for their uprights, never mind the grand pianos.

      I do aspire to an Model D someday. Too bad their current distributor pissed me off big time, Theme and Variations was so much better/easier to deal with.

  • +4

    Living in inner Sydney suburbs, you should question if you really need a car at all.

    • Ones out west will wonder how one will pay such rent. $200/week grocery+coffee for one person is abit rich.

  • +12

    I earn quite a bit more and even don't think I earn enough to spend/waste so much on a luxury car. The people I have seen who do own luxury cars belong to 4 categories:

    • Wealthy family
    • VERY well paying job
    • Mainly cash in hand job earning, declares themselves as low income earner and pays little to no tax
    • Small/medium Business owner who puts down every day to day expense as a business expense. Buys a luxury car and gets a tax write-off even though the car is never used for work. (Most of the people I personally know who own luxury cars belong to this category)
    • or drug dealers

      • aka cash in hand job

    • Re the tax write off, government mostly doesn't care as when these people buy the car the government makes massive amounts of money from the LCT.

  • +2

    There is an estimated $20T to $40T dollars looking for a home.

    People who have it will spend it on assets while those who don't will talk about it.

  • +1

    The few possibilities I can think of:
    - Burn through paychecks
    - Leasing / Finance / Salary sacrifice
    - Buy used
    - Rental
    - Required for job (e.g. RE salesman) and tax deductible
    - Rich

    • +1

      A luxury car isnt required for a job

      • +2

        But-but honey, my job requires I have a top of the line Mercedes with heated steering wheel, it's super important!

        • The heated steering wheel and seats in my Santa Fe are very very nice in the Melbourne winter. Never wanted them before but now I have them it's hard to go backwards.

      • Not required but is certainly 'preferred' or 'recommended' in many lines of work.

        I've seen many auctioneers driving in a high-end Audi. Either company car or self-funded but, regardless, the impression would be different if they drove by in a Yaris.

        • Honest salesperson?

      • +1

        Tell that to my farmer friend who drives a bmw x7, btw he does use it for work his car is dirty as and reeks of manure.

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