This NAS and 8TB HDD bundle is on sale again and cheaper than last time. This QNAP has a perpetual QVR Pro license so you can have up to 8 camera channels recording to the NAS.
The NAS features 4 drive bays, Intel Celeron J4125 CPU, 4GB SODIMM DRR4 RAM (Upgradeable), dual 2.5 GBe ethernet, HDMI 2.0 output, PCIe Gen 2 x2, 2x USB 3.0 and 3x USB 2.0.
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Go read some comparisons, there's heaps out there, each NAS has different strengths depending on what you're after.
Qnap generally has more flexibility and potential for customisation and extension, but in the meanwhile it requires more technical skills and knowledge to further build up what you want based on the 'platform' it provides. Synology stands out in terms of its user friendly web design, but in the meanwhile, it's more difficult to do something 'out of the box' as it restricts to some degree the potential to go further customisation. In short: Qnap = Android (easier to root, customise with a wide range of available apps), could resource hungry if you go for its Hero series; Synology = handy (if you're used to its UI design and the philosophy behind it), less potential for customisation, conservative in adopting the latest hardware/ technology.
Qnap has more ram and slightly faster ethernet.
Synology has built in m.2 slots for faster drive cache/performance.
Both have same CPU, both have expansion options. Wouldn't expect much performance difference out of the box until you spec either one out.
I typically prefer Synology OS and build quality over Qnap.
I always got the impression that, on balance, they are similar. In line with what yukey has said, I have the impression that Synology is slightly more locked down (though really it's just a lightweight Linux OS, so you can probably fiddle with it a lot if you want).
I have not used QNAP though. My first NAS was a little Synology dual drive thing, and it gave me such trouble free service over the course of a decade or so that I recently went with Synology again when I replaced it with a 6 bay beast (but still use the old unit for backup from the new). The new unit is serving up as a time machine backup server, and general media storage. I'll be getting a 10gbe card for it in future and seeing how well it goes for video editing when connected directly to a Mac. I run a UPS alongside it, and it pretty much runs without intervention now that it is set up.
Just checked the power draw on it, and including modem, router, and the NAS (presently active) itself, there is only 81W being drawn. That's another consideration with these things.
I'm sure you won't go wrong with either QNAP or Synology.
Broadly Synology has better software and Qnap has better hardware, particularly 2.5gbe networking.
However Synology seems to be more and more restricting users to use only (expensive) Synology branded hard drives so if you are just starting out and hope to have ongoing lengthy NAS use I would personally avoid getting involved in the Synology ecosystem.
I really think this is a non-issue for home/enthusiast consumer use. A professional/enterprise setup should probably pay heed (and probably would use top spec drives anyway). Do mid/large enterprises even use these units though?!
I think if Synology goes further down that path though (eg, if you're looking for support, and they won't provide it because you haven't got Synology platters in your NAS), then they'll lose the home/enthusiast market. Surely they know that.
My DS1621+, fwiw, is running Red Plus drives no problems.
If you need to ask..then go with Synology. Much more polished out of box…
Oops. Missed the bit about the HDD
Your model is the higher RAM one though!
Didn't know they came with 8GB out the box!
you can build your own NAS with a much better configuration (intel i5, 1 TB SSD, and an 8TB HDD for example) at the same price using TrueNAS or other open-source software. This setup not only works as NAS but also allows you to host a bunch of VMs to play with. I understand it may not be everyone's thing but there are heaps of instructions if you are really curious and want to save some $$$
Power usage is one thing to consider if you go this route. I do agree you get way more value though
You can build quite powerful while still staying at the power sipping levels if you are careful. My current NAS was built a few years ago now and even then it used an EOL board with the asrock rack 8 core avoton based board http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=C2…. It is more than adequate for me to run multiple VM's on while also performing as a NAS. Their are much more powerful chips with very low power requirements available now, I would generally avoid the general purpose desktop CPU's like the i5 for this sort of thing though.
What case are you using?
@SickDmith: I use https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/rosewill-rsv-l4412u-blac… and it's awesome, but I paid about $300 inc shipping a long time ago. Seems to be double the price now !!!
The model without the hotswap bays is still affordable - https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/rosewill-rsv-l4500u-blac… - they're just three empty 3x5.25" bays on the front of the case, so you can easily add your own hotswap caddies if you like. Or just fill it with 15 drives as is - if you only swap a drive when it fails, then it will only be annoying on an occasional basis…
@SickDmith: No rack, it just sits under my (large) desk on a small table.
I deliberately choose a large case because it's easier to cool (so quieter) and there's no limitations about what I can put in there. There's masses of space inside, and it uses standard PSUs, standard Motherboards etc.
@SickDmith: Build quality on them is fantastic, they can be a bit fiddly getting the mini itx boards mounted though as not a lot of space. Can also be hard to get as they sell out regularly, had to import mine. I also got the 1U power supply from them. I have my NAS running dual 1TB SSD's for cache drives and currently 6x10TB's of spinning rust.
Power usage is barely any different in the home-build machine, for an equivalent CPU.
You're free to use an ultra low power chip just like the Celeron in this QNAP if you want 👍
Obviously if you choose a CPU with 4x the TDP then it's going to draw more power under load.
Was replying to ren77 who was using an i5, so not equivalent but yes good point. Please direct me to some 10W TDP Celerons that are readily available, as I can only find 35W versions from a quick Google search.
@reloxation: If you're really serious about building a system with a 10W TDP processor, then I would use something like ThrottleStop coupled with a small LGA1150 or LGA1151 board - there are 25W TDP Xeons readily available from this generation that you could forcibly limit to 10W TDP if you really wanted to.
But in practice, your NAS will be close to idle for most of the time - a modern 35W TDP chip with Turbo disabled won't use appreciably more power - it'll only get up to the 35W under load, and it'll spend less time there given the dramatically improved performance when compared to the Celeron J4125 in the QNap.
Don't forget you can take additional measures like an 80+ Platinum PSU in your home build - no idea what the efficiancy of the QNaps PSU is, but I suspect it's going to be less…
I just recycled my old PC (3700X) and turn it into a NAS with Plex installed. Saved some money.
You save money on hardware and lose it on electricity. NAS are designed to run efficiently 24/7 and yes, people always point out that NAS hardware is expensive and weak compared to almost any other option but this is intentional as it is targetting a niche use case. PCs target very wide use cases.
If you already have an old PC and don't need it running 24/7 or don't mind the extra power cost and can handle that it will take up a lot more space then yes, an old PC is great.
100%. I use NAS drives at home and in business for a small cost effective layer of backup. There's no need to get some big old PC that'll take up more room and chew power.
Nah, I only turn it on 1-2 hours a day.
Don't need it running 24x7.
If I need something running 24x7, I would just plug a large harddisk into my router.
Its a mATX so not too big.
So works out better value.
Except this deal is for an Intel NAS. It's just commodity hardware.
It's got a CPU with a 10w TDP - it's not going to be noticeably more efficient than a basic home made PC with the same 10w TDP equivalent CPU, running TrueNAS.
Where are the 10W TDP desktop CPUs? Please enlighten me.
If you motherboard supports it you can just undervolt your 3700x. It should be able run sweetly at around 35w TDP with only a 21% drop in performance compared to 65w.
why do they give you a "single" drive? most NAS bundles will fill all 4 slots so you can actually use a RAID configuation!
Normally QNAP give you no drives 😅 Plenty of HDD deals around to get started with.
yeah I was talking about bundles deals exclusivly but yes I know outside that they come with no drives. pretty sure you can't start a raid 5 array with a single drive lol.
I like the customisation that QNAP offers such as the ability to select any folder for media etc. I have qumagie installed on both mine and my wife's phones and setup such that it auto-uploads/backups any new photos we take straight to the NAS to a location that I specified. If my wife or I lose either of our phones we don't lose any precious photos of the kids.
If anyone's wondering, the main NAS replicates to a secondary QNAP daily, and all photos are also backed up to Google photos, local HDD and Backblaze. I'm not taking any chances with family photos
Are you using the qnap backup software (to backup to secondary QNAP and backblaze)?
Also, is it Backblaze B2 subscription OR personal one?
Thanks
Oops forgot to reply. Using hybrid backup sync and RTRR to sync to second Nas.
As for backblaze, I'm using the personal version by using allway sync to daily copy from my primary Nas to a spare computer, which then backs up to backblaze
Thanks for getting back to me.
I am currently using syncovery to backup from QNAP (Syncovery is installed on QNAP) to BackBlaze B2; but the price rather pricier lately, and been thinking to move to BackBlaze personal subscription.
Seems you are dependent on a client machine to grab the data from QNAP using allway sync; on which, I am not at the moment.
Thank you
last synology deal was 3 months ago
which is a better NAS? Synology or Qnap?
how does this compare with Synology DS920+?