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AMD Ryzen 5 5600G $251.10 5600 $256.50 5600X $296.10 5700X $382.50 5700G $404.10 5800X $449.10 5900X $530.10 Delivered @ MSY

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600G $251.10 5600 $256.50 5600X $296.10 5700X $382.50 5700G $404.10 5800X $449.10 5900X $530.10 Delivered @ MSY
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Here are some AMD Ryzen processors sale on MSY's queen's birthday celebration.

AMD RYZEN 5 5600G Up To 4.4GHz AM4 Unlocked CPU with Cooler
AMD RYZEN 5 5600 UpTo 4.4GHz AM4 CPU with Cooler
AMD RYZEN 5 5600X Up To 4.6GHz AM4 Unlocked CPU
AMD RYZEN 7 5700X UpTo 4.6GHz 36MB Cache AM4 without Cooler CPU
AMD RYZEN 7 5700G Up To 4.46Hz AM4 Unlocked CPU with Cooler
AMD RYZEN 7 5800X Up To 4.7GHz AM4 Unlocked CPU
AMD RYZEN 9 5900X Up To 4.8GHz AM4 Unlocked CPU
AMD RYZEN 7 5800X3D UpTo 4.5GHz AM4 Unlocked CPU

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  • Krad3r on 12/06/2022 - 19:55

    These are decent deals but the next gen chips are literally round the corner.

    • euphoria1337 on 12/06/2022 - 19:56
      +39

      and those chips rely entirely on the cost of ddr5 memory and the motherboards - am4 is not obsolete that quickly

      • ATangk on 12/06/2022 - 20:14
        +9

        Yes, cheap upgrades to those who are still running older AM4 chips like the 2000 or 3000 series.

        • jace88 on 13/06/2022 - 01:27
          +2

          I feel like I’m missing something as my 3700x from a few years ago still feels reasonably quick to me… not sure if I should upgrade or just leave as is. I don’t do any creative work and just either productivity and some light gaming.

          • ATangk on 13/06/2022 - 01:33
            +3

            @jace88: If you dont need it, dont upgrade. Its really only if you suddenly increased in your workload and wanted to move to something with more cores like a 5900x, or if youre moving up from a 2000 where the 5600x will feel like a bigger improvement.

          • joshx on 13/06/2022 - 10:23

            @jace88: you're fine. mostly great for people who do creative or software development/data work.

            • jace88 on 13/06/2022 - 11:52

              @joshx: Thanks joshx and ATangK. Whilst missus said I can upgrade my PC for my birthday next month I think I’ll hold off as I don’t find my 3700x/2080Ti to be holding me back. The only exciting CPU development I’ve found in recent years was apple silicon for my MacBook and the epic battery life and performance on battery.

              • polol on 13/06/2022 - 11:53

                @jace88: Very good specs to continue on lol

              • netsurfer on 13/06/2022 - 12:41

                @jace88: Not worth upgrading because Ryzen 7000 series is coming up, and still need to wait for the AGESA update to address Windows 11 issue (which could be a workaround fix, rather than proper). We also need to assume AMD has completely fixed the USB glitch (which honestly, I am not certain). Then, there is the question of B550 vs X570 (unless you currently have a B550 or X570 board). Also, USB 3.2 gen 2x2 is tempting, that means an add-on card most likely.

                Dual camp users like us also would also be eying for Apple M1 Pro/Max/Ultra, M2 etc… Next PC we get should at least give Apple silicon a run for its money. Even if it cannot beat the M1 Ultra in raw CPU, at least it should have better I/O setup (PCIe gen 5, at least multiple proper PCIe gen 4 NVMe SSDs (rather than via chipset lanes), USB 3.2 gen 2x2 or Thunderbolt 4 (Apple won't support USB 3.2 gen 2x2)).

                We've resisted upgrading for so long. It doesn't make sense to cave in at the last minute. If you already have X570 or B550 board and intend to sell your current CPU, then it is fine.

      • dreamscene on 12/06/2022 - 20:27

        DDR5 will probably drop in price hard when AM5 launches due to volume sales and ignite a whole generation of upgrades.

        • ATangk on 12/06/2022 - 20:35
          +22

          That or theyll go up in price due to demand.

          • Skele-Cr on 12/06/2022 - 22:43
            -1

            @ATangk: The market is already projecting massive demand and so I don't think prices will go up. Should definitely go down. Unless something seriously goes wrong with the supply chain again.

            • surethang on 13/06/2022 - 09:42
              +1

              @Skele-Cr: How would that work? Typically when there is massive demand, people are willing to pay more for a product and price goes up - all other things being equal. It's a fundamental economics principle - the law of demand.

              • Skele-Cr on 13/06/2022 - 11:55

                @surethang: Since demand is projected, suppliers are already anticipating demand. DDR5 is in extremely early stages and will 100% go down in price. Economies of scale also playing a factor.

                • wackedupwacko on 13/06/2022 - 12:23

                  @Skele-Cr: That only assumes their supply chains and manufacturing can output to match the demand. If they can't like GPUs their prices will skyrocket.

      • Diji on 13/06/2022 - 16:29

        Krad3r might be hoping that Zen 4 stuff is sufficient enough to drop the prices of the current CPUs (unlike what seemed to have happened with the 3600 where it held value for ages).

        I'm on a 4790K so this is pretty tempting for me though.
        Nevermind, all out of 5600s.

    • John Doh on 12/06/2022 - 20:38

      Next gen IPC lift is just 8% as per AMD slides with ST increase of 15%. Not sure if that even applies to gaming.

      • Osiris on 12/06/2022 - 22:08

        decent upgrade if jumping from 3000 series?

        • freefall101 on 12/06/2022 - 22:32
          +1

          Depends what you do with it. High frame rate 1080p gaming? yes. Or if you have a cpu intensive task. Or you have a 3100.

          Highly unlikely to bring a noticeable difference though if you don’t have a clear purpose in mind for why you need more cpu power.

        • virtual81 on 13/06/2022 - 12:49

          From 3000 I'd say it's a maybe.
          From 5000 It's not much.

          In a years time when pricing and demand has settled for these 7000's and for DDR5 and you're still on 3000x then that might be a good time to upgrade if you want, maybe picking up an RTX4xxx along with.

          That said can never rule out what Intel might counter with.
          I have no brand bias.

          I'll personally be hanging on to my 5800x for at least another 3 years.
          It looks like I'll be upgrading to 64GB whilst DDR4 is still affordable, got a sim title that is gobbling ram, hit 99% used of 32GB the other day in DCS.
          Willing to be that is partly memory leaks, though it doesn't do it single player, only in busy servers with lots of assets.
          Seems a bit rich for me, but i still want it to run nice.

      • OMGJL on 12/06/2022 - 22:21

        if you think about it, on the other hand 5800x3d offers NO IPC improvement at all yet still gain gaming performance.

        It probably depends on how fast/large/well designed is zen4's Cache system.

        • John Doh on 13/06/2022 - 07:07

          I have a feeling that gaming wise, Zen4 will go neck to neck with 5800X3D but will still sell better because of genral overall speed will be way faster. And it will take a Zen4 X3D next year to fully beat the 5800X3D

          • OMGJL on 13/06/2022 - 21:04

            @John Doh: It doesn't necessarily need to be bigger in capacity, faster cache would give big gaming performance gain and may not represent on IPC number

        • virtual81 on 13/06/2022 - 12:50

          Initially there will be no 3D cache on Zen4, but it is in the pipeline to come later as a refresh.
          If people are not desperate to upgrade then that might be worth waiting for, and when the time comes it might also be around the time DDR5 pricing settles.

      • dreamscene on 13/06/2022 - 05:43
        +1

        AMD is downplaying like they did with the 5 series to catch Intel out. Probably a bigger upgrade. But saying that, AMD will do the bare minimum to just about stay ahead of Intel and not much more. Also they won't release their fastest and best designs initially, have to wait for gen 2 and gen 3 AM5 for incremental upgrades even if AMD can 'unlock' all that speed when the gen 1 series of CPU's release for AM5 platform, they just won't. AMD has become Intel of the 90's and 2000's.

        • John Doh on 13/06/2022 - 07:12

          I hope so they are downplaying the IPC numbers. Also I dont think AMD has become Intel of the 90s/2000s. If they would have, they wouldnt have sent Intel and nVidia running to prepare thier best CPUs and GPUs of all time. Look at the multicore performance jump on intel CPUs (without even caring about TDP) and nvidia raster performance improvements on ampere(without even caring about TDP). Also the next gen jump on Ada is mind blowing! why? because AMD has been pushing really hard. I dont think they are holding back on anything. They just want to be the top performers for as long as possible with a good lead because thats the only way they can get the market back.

        • JerraJones on 13/06/2022 - 13:49
          -3

          As AMD operates on the 'tick tock model', new am5 cpus will be the 'tick' in the tick tock cycle, you'll see the bigger improvements in the 'tock' cycle which will be the 8000 series. Same with how 5000 series was a massive improvement gain compared to the 3000 series.

          • sane on 13/06/2022 - 17:49
            +1

            @JerraJones: Not quite.

            Tick - Tock was intel's approach where an architectural improvement (Tick) was followed by a tweaking and general IPC optimisation (Tock) to gain incremental improvements before the next tick.

            Zen3 to Zen 4 has about a 9% IPC improvement, but with a significant clock speed bump (4.7 > 5.7 Mhz) yielding about a 30% improvement in speed. The focus is on clocks.

            Zen 4 to Zen 5 is supposed to be a greater IPC improvement, but with other architectural (cache) improvements, and a higher core count, whilst staying at roughly the same clock speed.

            As such Zen 4 is closer to the tock, but with a new socket and I/O die, and Zen 5 is closer to a tick with a shift to a newer architectural design. Both of them shift to newer nodes - such is the pace of shrinkage.

            Word has it that Zen 5 is the real 'next generation' step, whereas Zen 4 is concentrating on getting AMD into the 5Ghz realm, and into the new socket in preparation.

            • JerraJones on 13/06/2022 - 19:38
              -1

              @sane: While yes the tick tock model was intel's idea/approach, AMD adopted it too awhile back.

              Although this is based on AMD's Epyc platform, Genoa is going to be a tick.

    • p1 ama on 12/06/2022 - 22:42

      I wouldn't buy into a new AM4 platform today, but this is a really good price if you're still on the Ryzen 1000 or 2000 series, something like a Ryzen 5 2600 to a 5600X is a really good upgrade.

      • Handymancan on 13/06/2022 - 00:52
        +3

        I'm in that middle ground with a 3700x, beneficial yet not very wise to upgrade…

        • dreamscene on 13/06/2022 - 05:43

          You should be good for at least another 5 - 7 years. You could even skip the whole AM5 gen and go to AM6 platform in 2027 - 2028. No need to upgrade. A new gen CPU could be 20% faster but if you don't need your PC to be 25% faster, then don't upgrade. PC's don't become slower with time, they stay at the same speed.

          • Yekul on 13/06/2022 - 06:37
            +2

            @dreamscene: The actually do degrade, but it’s extremely negligible. The bigger issue however is software support. A PC can feel like it’s slower as a result of ever increasing software demands. This is especially true for things like photo/video software.

            But everyone’s use case is different so really the advice can’t be blanket statements.

    • surethang on 13/06/2022 - 10:18

      These are decent deals but the next gen chips are literally round the corner.

      Yep.

      But there will probably be the usual new-product premium to pay on the CPUs and the motherboards for a while. Typically it takes a few quarters before the price comes down to be price-performance competitive with the predecessor tech.

      Also, there's the new-platform teething issues we see each time. Unless someone has a solid reason to jump on the new tech, it's often recommended to wait for the kinks to be worked out. We saw it with the early Ryzen generations, and we're still seeing issues now with Intel's 12th gen.

      My guess is it'll be well into next year before AM5 will be proven stable and price competitive. Of course, it's all risk-reward and everyone's profile varies.

  • icecream on 12/06/2022 - 20:04
    +1

    Glad to hear you can load their website at the moment.

  • ATangk on 12/06/2022 - 20:09

    Think those promo prices will remain until tomorrow?

    • gizmomelb on 12/06/2022 - 20:14
      +7

      yes.. because the sale doesn't BEGIN until tomorrow.

      • ATangk on 12/06/2022 - 20:15
        +5

        I mean theres currently marked down prices on those products already, hope jack wont visit

  • kingmoron on 12/06/2022 - 20:15
    +13

    Their website is currently as slow as their warranty RMAs.

  • atom1319 on 12/06/2022 - 20:15

    Woah

  • starburstyellow on 12/06/2022 - 20:18
    +3

    Least reference the original deal: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/705908

  • jaydee4 on 12/06/2022 - 20:20
    +4

    Only been to MSY store once but I left before buying anything because their employees looked miserable. That was when their website was mostly a pdf file. Hope it's different now.

    • TimR31 on 12/06/2022 - 20:28
      +11

      I used to kinda enjoy the naff charm of the pdf price list, but possibly only because they were amongst the cheapest options in my area. Been a while since that was true. And the employee welfare has never looked great, agreed

      • ATangk on 12/06/2022 - 20:39
        +3

        Can still visit IJK if you want pdf price lists.

    • enforcer on 12/06/2022 - 20:33

      HOT!

    • OMGJL on 12/06/2022 - 22:22

      man if you ever been to SA branches it's day and night difference than before.

    • p1 ama on 12/06/2022 - 22:45
      +5

      Not too sure actually, I used to go to MSY Clayton every week back in the day when working on my PC was my major creative outlet and what I would spend the majority of my spare time doing. They were super cool guys - definitely not the happiest employees, but there was a guy, Tim, who know a crap tonne about computer hardware and was just always a chill guy every time I came into the store. The old PARTS.pdf was just part of the 90's charm when computer stores catered mostly to geeks and nerds.

      It's a different vibe these days, not to mention MSY's prices just aren't "great" anymore, I almost always find CentreCom's prices to be better than MSY, and with how bad MSY's stock situation can be, it's just no longer got the charm that it used to have back when there were customers snaking out the front door on a Saturday morning. Miss the days when there were like 10 MSY stores in VIC. Feels almost sad to see places where I spent so much of my younger days close up shop.

  • Viospeed on 12/06/2022 - 20:23
    +1

    The website has been taking a dump for a couple hours now.

    • dreamscene on 12/06/2022 - 20:29
      -5

      The nerds and geeks probably creating bots to link to items to nab the best deals in bulk within 0.001sec of the sale going live.

  • John Doh on 12/06/2022 - 20:46

    Damn, X3D not on sale.

  • Justcuz on 12/06/2022 - 21:01
    +1

    Where's the 5950x :(

  • BarneyKB on 12/06/2022 - 21:05

    5800x3d will be $629.1, which will be a historical low I believe.

    • p1 ama on 12/06/2022 - 22:55
      +1

      Hate to get into the whole AMD vs. Intel debate, but I still think $629.10 is way too much for the 5800X3D. It's a product that makes no sense at the price-point.

      The 12700KF is $482 after the 10% discount, and is just a better all-rounder. Even if you wanted the additional gaming performance of the 5800X3D, is it really $150 better? Even if you are already on AM4, is it really $220 better than the 5700X?

      • Murpha on 12/06/2022 - 23:50
        +1

        Replaced a 3600X with a 5800X3D. Definitely not disappointed. Decent boost in all games I play. Technologically interesting, historical and a fitting swam song for AM4

      • BarneyKB on 13/06/2022 - 00:14
        +1

        It's the no compromises AM4 gaming CPU

        Not saying it's good value for money ATM

  • happyhayward on 12/06/2022 - 21:13

    Some items are already showing out of stock, so hoping that there is a boost tomorrow.

  • maverickjohn on 12/06/2022 - 21:17
    +1

    5800x3d is holding its price too well

  • virsagomk2 on 12/06/2022 - 21:27

    Far out I just bought 5900x for $569 from MSY last week. Now they're bumping the price up to $589 before discount!

  • FDA2021 on 12/06/2022 - 21:37

    Lol I thought the 5600X was $251.10 for a second, I would've cried since I bought it for $295 today

    • Jimwarlock on 12/06/2022 - 21:49

      Where did you get it for $295 today?

      • FDA2021 on 12/06/2022 - 21:50
        +1

        The 10% AfterPay sale on eBay, most of the listing are about $329 before coupon

  • Torzz on 12/06/2022 - 21:45

    Rip… Pulled the trigger earlier this week at $278 for the 5600.. 2 msy stores within 10 mins drive too.. oh well

  • atom1319 on 12/06/2022 - 21:57

    Is there a big difference in processing power between 5600 and 5600G?

    • Brrrrt on 12/06/2022 - 22:12
      +2

      The differences are not too pronouced in actual processing power but more with the gimped 16mb of L3 cache that the APUs come with. 5600g is only worth it if you decide to go for a dGPU less setup but dont get the 5600g for gaming. In benchmarks, thanks to only half the L3 cache that these ryzen APUs get compared to the mainline desktop ryzen chips, you will see barely if any FPS gains compared to the 3600/x, let alone the 5600/x.

      The 5500/5600g/5700gs are actually laptop Cezanne 5600h/5800h chips binned for desktops and are not comparable to 5600/x which is under the vermeer lineup. They dont even get PCIE 4.0 support. Again if its a dgpu less setup these are fine for the job but for gaming you will definitely want to go for the 5600/5600x.

      • TimR31 on 13/06/2022 - 10:19

        Agreed. 5600G gaming performance is pretty much a match for a 3600, 5600 and 5600X are much faster for games

  • dhleoz on 12/06/2022 - 22:21
    +1

    Guys, whats best bang for bucks 5000 series? Considering i am running rx6600xt.

    • Brrrrt on 12/06/2022 - 22:26
      +5

      5600

    • OMGJL on 12/06/2022 - 22:28
      +3

      plain 5600.

      unlike 5600g/5500 this is the proper desktop zen3 with full blown L3 cache + PCIe 4.0 support.

      and it perform almost like a 5600x.

      5600x/5800x/5900x have almost identical gaming performance (ladder is only ever so slightly faster) because of L3 cache size per CCD is identical.

  • 1Todd on 12/06/2022 - 22:23

    Is it worth waiting till the Ryzen 7000 series coming later this year?

    • Brrrrt on 12/06/2022 - 22:28
      +2

      If you want the best of the best go for 7000 series.

      If you value performance to $$$ go with 5000 series.

      • TimR31 on 13/06/2022 - 10:21

        The nice thing about 7000 release will hopefully be (if they don't stop production), it will bring down the price of the 5800X3D

        • sane on 13/06/2022 - 11:24

          It's looking very like AMD are going to keep AM4 going as their 'low cost' offering - at least according to the Forbes article:

          https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2022/05/26/amds-r…

          in fact I kind of wonder, given the architecture, if they couldn't combine Zen4 and AM4 if they wanted to. Keep the old DDR4 I/O die and …

          • TimR31 on 13/06/2022 - 11:30

            @sane: They could do that and end production of the AM4 3D-cache chips though, just keep the rest of the line-up but be like, if you want high performance, get AM5

  • Godric on 12/06/2022 - 22:28

    Tempting

  • froddoog on 12/06/2022 - 22:37

    Tempting, $28 more buy it from Centrecom 10mins drive or 35mins and save $28………………. hard decision.

  • nekminnit on 12/06/2022 - 23:04

    Same deal as Shopping Express, only 10% off. Wish other retailers would go lower.

  • Pelilah on 12/06/2022 - 23:48

    Will these be cheaper once new chips drop?

    • BarneyKB on 13/06/2022 - 07:13
      +4

      Yes or oos

  • incipient on 13/06/2022 - 00:20

    Isn't the 12400 for about $240 with a ddr4 board a better option today?

    • TimR31 on 13/06/2022 - 10:22

      Probably, depending on your obsession with frames per $, and the price of a B660 board

  • stylsh on 13/06/2022 - 01:19

    $413 i7 12700F is a pretty great deal. Or a $440 12700 if you want a back up igpu.

  • AEKaBeer on 13/06/2022 - 02:35
    +1

    5600 and 5700x were out of stock from 1am.

    • dhleoz on 13/06/2022 - 11:21

      Yah, it was in my cart when only 1 stock left at the store. Then someone already grabbed it lol. Doesn't look like they have a lot of stock either instore or online.

  • wayne7190 on 13/06/2022 - 08:28

    Great time. I need a new cpu as my pc is giving random bsod with different codes everytime and I tested/replaced everything except mobo and cpu

    • WhyAmICommenting on 13/06/2022 - 12:12
      +2

      I would expect that to be the mobo, personally. I’ve never had a CPU fail

      • wayne7190 on 18/06/2022 - 21:06

        Thanks. Turned out to be the mobo

        • WhyAmICommenting on 19/06/2022 - 06:46

          Haha cheers for letting me know. But I’ve heard of cpus failing.

          Would be interesting to know the mobo/cpu failure split.

  • tshar104 on 13/06/2022 - 09:35
    +3

    The biggest winners on this deal are existing A320 B350 owners and cheapskates like me who recently picked up A320 mobos on FB or gumtree for $40-50. Throw in some cheap ddr4 and a half decent graphics card and you're playing with the big boys.
    AM4 is dollar for dollar the best socket to ever be released.

    • XCelR8 on 13/06/2022 - 11:31

      I was honestly thinking of upgrading from a 2600X to the 5600X but given the wait for a brand new system isnt that long ill hold off. But your comment did help me. So thanks!

      • mcpower on 13/06/2022 - 12:08
        +1

        Being able to drop in a CPU into your current mobo and re-use the same RAM can save you a fair chunk of money compared to buying a brand new system - you'll probably need to buy a new mobo and RAM (if using DDR5) on top of a CPU if you decide on Ryzen 7000 or an Intel platform.

        AM4 is near the end of its life, so a 5600 / 5700X is probably the best bang-for-buck CPU you can drop into your current mobo for the foreseeable future. (You don't need to upgrade your mobo to get the most performance out of Ryzen 5000 chips, although you might be missing out on PCIe Gen 4.)

        • XCelR8 on 13/06/2022 - 14:37

          Thanks its a very old system, i normally just upgrade full systems and give the old one to my parents. 2600X, 1070ti 16gb Ram, so ill do the whole thing and wait until December to get new everything, CPU and GPU style.

    • m3ndL3 on 13/06/2022 - 14:05

      A lot of those A320 mobos are rubbish though

  • slowmo on 13/06/2022 - 10:13

    no love for 5950x? :(

  • EMSilver on 13/06/2022 - 15:35

    Gah, I finalised my build plans last night and was desperate to grab the 5700x, only for it to be out of stock when I checked this morning. Any thoughts on whether I should pivot to a 5600x, 5700g or 5800x instead?

    I'm happy to stretch for higher specs if they're worth it, and I'm not wedded to AMD, but my use case has made a comparison difficult (obsessive multi-tasking of tabs/programs, two 1080p monitors, mostly older games with the occasional PC Game Pass title, some rare photo and video editing for work). I think a 5600x would suffice and maybe even excel for the older games, but I can't find a comparison that will tell me where the downgrade from 5700x might hurt me personally.

    Alternatively, I can wait it out and hope my currently dying build lasts a bit longer or pick up the 5700x at $425 elsewhere.

    • zrmx on 13/06/2022 - 21:26
      +1

      (obsessive multi-tasking of tabs/programs, two 1080p monitors, mostly older games with the occasional PC Game Pass title, some rare photo and video editing for work)
      I really think for your workload, the 6-core Ryzen 5 5600 (non-X, performs basically the same, with ~0-5% difference) is going to be sufficient depending on how heavy and frequent your video editing is. The 8-core 5700X might perform ~10-35% better depending on the video editing software you use, but also depends on whether you leave things overnight to render.

      Ryzen 5 5600 $260.10 with Afterpay on BPC eBay: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/325088114480 (today is last day for the afterpay 10% code, although it's possible another will come around again at some other time)

      Ryzen 7 5700X $396 with 20% off ebay code (or $386.10 w/ eBay Plus) at GGTech eBay: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/265620785473

      The 5700X will cost ~48-52% more (depending on whether you have eBay Plus) for UP TO ~35% better multi-threaded performance, or very similar (<10%) in most few threaded scenarios. Up to you to decide whether it is worth it or not. Although I suppose the overall system cost percentages will be less than the ~50% figure, if you are building new.

      • EMSilver on 13/06/2022 - 23:02

        Thanks, I hadn't really considered the 5600 non-X variant. I appreciate the cost to performance comparison; I'd looked at benchmarks, but I'm not literate enough with specs to have a good grasp on what min/max/avg ultimately boils down to in a standard scenario. You're a legend!

        Would you recommend replacing the stock cooler on the 5600? I'd planned to buy a Cooler Master Hyper Turbo 212 for the 5700x and general advice seems to be "yes, stock coolers suck," but I can't imagine stock vs aftermarket making a big difference for my use case (my understanding being that a more effective cooler will reduce risk of throttling and increase longevity, but that's mostly a factor for sustained peaks, i.e. long periods of rendering).

        • zrmx on 14/06/2022 - 01:23
          +1

          Can go either way really, short answer: fine to use stock for now (especially considering your use case won't really load the CPU fully all the time) and see how you like it, can always upgrade later and will be similar cost-wise. Also the Hyper 212 seems to be quite higher price than before. I probably will go for Deepcool Gammaxx 400 or its variants instead if getting aftermarket (goes on sale every now and then), unless if price is the same. Performs just as good and better value.

          Long answer: "depends", the stock cooler actually performs okay, in the sense that it won't throttle the 5600's performance, albeit can get "bit hot" in the 80s Celsius region during full load, but still perfectly within specificaton and will work as designed/intended. Factors that I can think of right now are:

          • cost/budget (how tight you are with budget, considering you were thinking about 5700X, then budget can do aftermarket cooler)

          • how sensitive you are to noise: can relate to your case and where you put your PC eg on desk or on floor. Stock cooler will need to run full speed so can be audible when you are rendering video/fully loading the CPU. Your use case shouldn't stress the CPU that much all the time, and you can always optimise the fan curve. Persojal experience with the wraith stealth stock cooler is it isn't that bad, it can be audible when under max load but it isn't unbearable, especially if you wear ear/headphones then the noise is almost a non-issue. This is from me using it in a mesh side panel case that's about 40-50cm away.)

          • how often your workload will work your CPU to the max load: some people might not want the CPU to always be under higher temperature for extended period of time. Although everything is still within spec. While over long period of time (years), it's generally accepted that high temperature can contribute to silicon degradation, but practically it is rare to hear report that someone's CPU is toasted from practical everyday usage, even when heavy.

          • convenience/compatibility with upgrades: it can be of a bit of an inconvenience for some to remove the cooler and upgrade and swap (especially depending on whether the new cooler requires to swap the motherboard backplate). If you do upgrade your CPU to 8+ cores later, you'll want/need to get aftermarket cooler as the wraith stealth likely won't be sufficient. However the choice of cooler will depend on which CPU you'll eventually upgrade to. The Hyper 212 is generally considered to still be very good with 5800X (8cores) and will start to get cozy with 5900X.

          • EMSilver on 14/06/2022 - 08:23
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            @zrmx: Wonderful info; that breakdown of factors is exactly what I've been looking for (and struggling to find for this build). You've been a huge help! Thank you again. :)

            • zrmx on 14/06/2022 - 13:36
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              @EMSilver: You're welcome =) all the best with your build

  • pformag on 13/06/2022 - 15:36
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    Prime Day is next month, try and hold off.

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