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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU + MSI X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI AM4 Motherboard $900 Delivered @ Shopping Express Clearance eBay

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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU + MSI X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI AM4 Motherboard $900 Delivered @ Shopping Express Clearance eBay
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Clear on 29/09/2022 - 14:47 ebay.com.au (866 clicks)
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With the PLE deal now on backorder with no ETA you can grab the Ryzen 5800X3D CPU from Shopping Express bundled with the more high end MSI MAG X570S Tomahawk Max motherboard. Unfortunately SE were unable to sell the CPU on it's own, however it's a good opportunity to stack all those discounted eBay gift cards for larger savings.

The Ryzen 5800X3D is easily one of the best CPUs you can get right now for gaming thanks to the whopping 96MB of L3 Cache compared to the 32MB on the regular 5800X. It has 8 CPU cores with 16 threads, a base clock of 3.4GHz and a boost clock 4.5GHz.

The MSI MAG X570S Tomahawk Max motherboard is packed with features including 4x DDR4 memory slots, 2x PCIe 4.0 x16 slots, 6x SATA ports, 2x M.2 NVMe Gen4 slots, 3x USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps ports, 4x USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports, Realtek 2.5Gbps LAN, Realtek ALC4080 7.1 audio with S/PDIF and Intel WiFi 6E AX210.

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  • Rod M on 29/09/2022 - 14:54
    +17

    I don't know if this is a deal or not,

    5800X3D is a awesome CPU if you have a AM4 system already and only upgrading, but $900 for CPU and MB on a dead platform?

    for about $1000 you can get the 7600X CPU and a X670 MB.

    Y/N?

    • RichardL on 29/09/2022 - 14:56
      +12

      for about $1000 you can get the 7600X CPU and a X670 MB.

      Don't forget, you'll likely need DDR5 RAM too.

      • checkingthisout on 29/09/2022 - 18:20

        I don’t get it. Ddr5 ram doesn’t seem that expensive. When realistically you only need 16gb for gaming.

      • xrailgun on 29/09/2022 - 14:57
        +33

        he's not recommending them, he's just pointing out that this is equivalently bad value.

        • Rod M on 29/09/2022 - 15:00
          +7

          exactly, if I was building a entire new system right now and had that budget for a CPU/MB, why buy into a dead platform?

        • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 15:03
          +2

          Is it really though when you consider the cost of DDR5 and a cooler?

          • Aleigh123 on 29/09/2022 - 15:43
            +1

            @Clear: I thought AM4 coolers were compatible with AM5?

            • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 15:45
              +2

              @Aleigh123: I double checked. Yes and no. Most coolers are backwards compatible with manufacturers like Noctua saying some models already aren't compatible.

            • nitens on 29/09/2022 - 16:09
              +2

              @Aleigh123: Compatible in some cases yes, but AMD has upped the TDP on the AM5 CPUs so they'll have the ability to get significantly hotter than Zen3. Meaning you may want to be more picky with your choice of cooler.

          • Ryballs on 30/09/2022 - 10:03

            @Clear: I see your point but it's only $100 more for 32GB DDR5 vs DDR4 and if you are spending $1000 on just mobo/CPU you should probably be buying a decent cooler anyways.

      • frondono on 29/09/2022 - 15:00

        I think AMD are still going to release some newer AM4 cpus in the future. So that might be interesting.

        • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 15:06
          +3

          5700X3D would be nice. 5950X3D would be very future proof.

        • FireRunner on 29/09/2022 - 15:54
          +3

          Pretty sure they said they were retiring AM4. It wouldn’t make sense from a business perspective to keep producing CPUs for their older platform

          • shellshocked on 29/09/2022 - 17:00

            @FireRunner: Actually Lisa Su said at Computex 2022 that AM4 would still be supported in future.

            https://www.thefpsreview.com/2022/05/23/am4-platform-will-co…

            • frondono on 29/09/2022 - 17:18

              @shellshocked: That's what I read.

              • snep on 29/09/2022 - 23:03
                +1

                @frondono: Is there something to suggest that "continue for many years to come" means anything more than just continuing to support the older platform through driver/firmware updates? Seems like a leap to say she's suggesting there will be brand new cpus for am4

                • shellshocked on 30/09/2022 - 09:55

                  @snep: Well if you look at a leaked roadmap, 7000 series will run along side 5000 for 2023. You realise that the benefit of AMD's chiplet design is that they can utilise multiple architectures without significantly effecting their margin. They are not monolithic like Intel. Also being fabless means they don't have to worry about tooling like Intel does for CPU manufacture.

                  https://videocardz.com/newz/leaked-amd-desktop-cpu-roadmap-c…

        • orza on 30/09/2022 - 20:55

          Latest rumour is an improved 3600 “AF” SKU, similar to the 1600 AF so would be on newer Zen 3. I don’t see them releasing any new high end products for AM4 though

        • FireRunner on 29/09/2022 - 15:57
          +11

          It’s dead in the sense of no future upgrades. No one is saying it’s unusable

          • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 16:01
            -1

            @FireRunner: Perhaps. I know there were 5600X3D rumours. Probably unlikely but AMD did do similar later on with the 3xxx series.

            • FireRunner on 29/09/2022 - 16:08

              @Clear: Pretty unlikely. The 5800X3D is already making the 7000 series look not as good.

              • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 16:10
                +1

                @FireRunner: Makes sense. AMD don't want to undermine the new generation and compete with themselves. Chances are 5xxx prices won't drop much further.

                Now I need to decide if I drop some $$$ to upgrade the 5600X or just wait and go 7xxx with a new build.

                • FireRunner on 29/09/2022 - 16:19
                  +1

                  @Clear: If you decide to upgrade, get 5600 (non-X) since performance is basically equal to that of the X but generally priced lower

                  • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 16:21

                    @FireRunner: Oh I mean I have a 5600X in my current build. 5700X was tempting since it's basically a cooler 5800X that you can clock higher to match.

                    • FireRunner on 29/09/2022 - 16:27
                      +2

                      @Clear: I can’t justify upgrading from my 5600 to a 5800X3D at the current prices. I might bite the bullet if it ever goes around $500. The 5700X/5800X aren’t a big enough step for me to consider

                      • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 16:36

                        @FireRunner: That's the sort of feeling I've been getting. I have a 3080 10GB and going to a 3090 doesn't feel like a big upgrade either unless the price is much lower.

                      • frondono on 29/09/2022 - 17:32

                        @FireRunner: AM4 Platform “Will Continue for Many Years to Come,” says AMD Chair and CEO Dr. Lisa Su

                        https://www.thefpsreview.com/2022/05/23/am4-platform-will-co…

                        • FireRunner on 29/09/2022 - 18:08
                          +1

                          @frondono: What exactly does support mean? New CPUs or will they keep producing the same ones for a while?

                          • greatlamp on 29/09/2022 - 20:51

                            @FireRunner: My guess is a repeat of zen 2. Producing CPUs on obsolete fabs could be very lucrative. 7nm will get much cheaper now that the market is moving to 5nm as mainstream.

    • teddiebear on 29/09/2022 - 19:39
      +2

      Yeah i don't think this is a good deal at all. Reason being: the tomahawk is a $300 board at normal price, $280'ish on special. Leaves the cpu to be $600. For these prices on an older platform, if you can't afford the new AM5, by all means sort a deal out with clearance items. Is it worth upgrading to AM5?? No… the jump isn't that great. Buy this deal at this price? No… shop around for people getting rid of old stock

    • Benzaah on 29/09/2022 - 20:51

      N

  • inDahoud on 29/09/2022 - 14:55
    +2

    https://www.ple.com.au/Products/651832/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-8…

    Or the scorptec deal.

    ($609)

    You can get the x570s tomahawk wifi on Amazon for $279 if I remember correctly.

    ($888 total)

    • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 14:59
      -8

      $888 total isn't correct. PLE is backorder with no ETA, but let's assume there's stock. It's $609 delivered only if you're in Melbourne, otherwise it's $20ish for shipping. Amazon is backorder, but let's assume that's in stock ready to ship too and the total price becomes…. $908.

      So this deal works out to be cheaper AND if you have discounted eBay gift cards from the almost weekly cashback deals you can get it for even less.

      • inDahoud on 29/09/2022 - 15:07
        +2

        So if you’re Melbourne, it’s cheaper.

        If you use the scorptec deal, it’s $9 shipping to bring it to $897.

        The motherboard showing in stock for me on Amazon.

        Regardless, just showing other options.

        • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 15:12
          -2

          Amazon says "Usually dispatched within 2 to 3 days." so that means it's not in stock ready to ship yet. Scorptec with $10 shipping works out to be $898 with the Amazon. So really it's a couple of dollars and everyone is selling for about the same price.

          So yeah different options.

  • dontbeatightarse on 29/09/2022 - 15:28
    -2

    AMD screwed the competition up royally. The 7950X only matches the 12900K in gaming performance now the 12900K will hold its price around $900 and the 13900K can be pre ordered for $1100.

    • TimR31 on 29/09/2022 - 15:40
      +5

      Did you watch a review for the 7700X? You don't have to buy the most expensive CPU in the stack for the best game performance (which is only ever by a few % anyway, not good value for money)

      • Axelstrife on 29/09/2022 - 15:50
        +2

        Cant know for sure till benchmarks are out but if the 13700k matches or even beats the 12900k then AMD is DOA this gen for gaming, AMD is just too expensive considering your forced to get DDR5 and barely matching there competitors LAST gen CPU.

        • ATangk on 29/09/2022 - 16:06

          7X3D cant come soon enough.

        • John Doh on 29/09/2022 - 16:12
          +2

          Its not about just today. Yes its DDR5. But think of all the upgrades you can do till Zen 6+ on AM5 platform. With intel, you are stuck with 13700K forever.

          • dontbeatightarse on 29/09/2022 - 16:26

            @John Doh: Why use it for as many years sell CPU and mobo and upgrade to 15th gen Intel or grab x670e cheap and get new Zen6 depending what's the best route.

            • John Doh on 29/09/2022 - 16:29

              @dontbeatightarse: Becuase X670 has all the latest feature, there is no point in selling it and buying another for another 4 years. Also you lose money when you change platforms.

              • dontbeatightarse on 29/09/2022 - 16:33

                @John Doh: No I mean say you buy a 12700K or 12900K then buy z690 MSI A PRO with DDR4 you're saving now and matching 7950X performance anyway. You can upgrade to 13900K or keep it for 4 years and then upgrade you are saving more money.

          • Axelstrife on 29/09/2022 - 18:31
            +1

            @John Doh: You have a point BUT!

            7950x $1200 + Cheapest X670 MB $499 + 32GB DDR5 6400mhz CL32 Ram $529 = $2228
            vs
            13900k $1099 + cheapest Z690 MB i9 can find $239 + 32GB DDR4 3600 CL16 Ram $169 = $1507

            Most likely you already have DDR4 ram from your old PC so that's another $169 saving.

            I still think a $721($890 if you already have RAM) saving is worth going with a dead socket after this gen when you consider that DDR5 with be even more mature and cheaper as will AM5 in a few years time.

            When you consider how much the resale value would be for the intel stuff using past generations to give you an idea you would still be better off with going intel now then buying a CPU + MB+DDR5 Ram in a few years time which by then the ram will be cheaper and you will have an even newer motherboard not a X670 which is older by then.

    • Robbo89 on 29/09/2022 - 18:40

      What? The 7600X beats the 12900K. Where are you getting your information from? Also the 5800X3D is better than the 12900K anyway, which is better than both for gaming and like $600.

  • SailorGoon on 29/09/2022 - 15:56
    +2

    Why is OP so obsessed with defending their deal? Kinda suss… what're you, associated with SE?
    Commenting like its your own profit margin on the line…

    • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 15:57
      +1

      More like I'm being factual and correct as people lie all the time. E.g. the $888 figure is incorrect. Then again I defend every deal. You just have to check my other posts to see.

      • nitens on 29/09/2022 - 16:16
        +3

        Saying people lie isn't correct at all. They may make a mistake, or misrepresent something but suggesting their objective is to deceive from the outset is a little unmellow. Most people here are just trying to offer alternatives, and aren't negging your deal.

        PS in case it's not obvious I'm grateful for your post!

        • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 16:22

          Most people here are just trying to offer alternatives, and aren't negging your deal.

          Just negging the shit out of my comments instead haha. But yes lie is a strong word so I'll retract that and go with what you're saying instead since that's more what I mean.

    • BargainsGrabber on 29/09/2022 - 16:12
      +3

      What was your reason for negging this deal?
      There’s always the report button to report it to the mods if you believe Clear is associated in any way, but be prepared to receive a report that says “No action taken”
      I support Clear in this instance

      • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 16:25
        +2

        Seems to me it falls under this invalid reason. Edit: Yep was revoked.

        An issue with the poster

        Disliking their comments or description.

        For anyone else reading I'm super transparent about my associations with the community and OzBargain staff. Infact here's all my associations with some being held for 7 years ;) I'll happily explain how I'm associated with each as well.

        • FireRunner on 29/09/2022 - 16:29
          +9

          I'm super transparent

          Yeah, I’d say you’re pretty Clear

        • BargainsGrabber on 29/09/2022 - 16:29

          Ohh I should’ve been more clear on my comment
          I meant to say if the commenter sends a report in for you being associated, it would receive the “no action taken” :)

          You’ve been on OzB long enough with your contribution to your deal postings. I support you sir

          • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 16:31

            @BargainsGrabber:

            I meant to say if the commenter sends a report in for you being associated, it would receive the “no action taken” :)

            I once performed a test with Amazon. Everytime I said "Negotiated a deal…" I'd get reported for sockpuppeting with that resulting in "no action taken". Everytime I neglected to mention the negotiation there were no reports.

        • J4ckal on 29/09/2022 - 17:09

          Tronsmart…now there's a name I haven't heard in a while. Used to buy a lot of their micro usb cables.

          • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 17:13
            +2

            @J4ckal: Used to be phones, TV boxes, chargers, cables and now they're booming in less developed countries with their Bluetooth Speakers. I only spoke with them a few weeks ago. They said if I attend any OzBargain Bday meetups in November they're happy to supply prizes.

            • J4ckal on 29/09/2022 - 17:38

              @Clear: Yeah I got curious and just checked out their website, noticed the prominence of their bt speakers. Maybe see you if you're at a Melbourne one then!

  • Grish on 29/09/2022 - 16:16

    unable to sell the CPU on it's own

    I'm usually pretty good at logic based puzzles, but this one's got me stumped!

    Anyone able to figure it out?

    • FireRunner on 29/09/2022 - 16:23
      +1

      Maybe the retailer had to take on a bunch of motherboards in order to secure the CPU stock?

      • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 16:27
        +1

        Pretty much. When I was buying from my own suppliers last year when the RTX 3xxx GPUs were hard to come by they were basically bundling a heap of motherboards with every individual GPU I ordered. Ended up with a lot of excess MBs.

    • Look Up on 29/09/2022 - 16:29
      +2

      SE: "Hey, why are PLE and Scorptec offering $600 X3D's?"
      Disti: "We gave them a discount"
      SE: "Can we get a discount?"
      Disti: "Only if your buy these 100x Tomahawk mobos"
      SE: "Hmmm…"

      A few minutes later

      Clear: "Hey, can we do a price match on the $600 X3D's?"
      SE: "Great idea, let's do a combo deal with the Tomahawk and price it exactly at $1000 so eBay fully fund a $100 discount"

      Clear posts deal

      OzBargain: "LoLz AM5 4 lyf bRo"

  • John Doh on 29/09/2022 - 16:18
    +2

    This combo and 16GB ddr 4 will cost you close to 1000. But for around ~1150 to 1200, you can get 7xxx CPU, X670 mobo - even the cheapest decent one, 16GB DDR5.

    You will get same performance in games, and much better performance overall + upgradibility till 2025+. IMO this CPU is not worth at this point if you have to buy mobo and RAM.

    • John Doh on 29/09/2022 - 16:19
      +2

      If you can wait for the B series mobo, its more of a win. Its not everyday you build a new PC.

      • nitens on 29/09/2022 - 16:27

        And early adopter tax… these things will settle just as z690 did in a couple of months.

        • John Doh on 29/09/2022 - 16:30

          That is totally right, thats why I mentioned - if you can wait. Now is not the time to be buying hardware. Jan/Feb is. But if you have to absolutely buy, this early adopter tax is worth it IMO.

  • Look Up on 29/09/2022 - 16:21
    +7

    Wait under Black Friday if you are building an AMD gaming PC, the parts with the most variety will be on clearance:

    AM4 mobos
    DDR4 RAM
    Sub 1000W PSU's

    If the sub $500 6700 XT deals arrive, even better

  • The Almighty Dollar on 29/09/2022 - 16:22
    +5

    I got a NIB X570s Tomahawk off eBay for $185, a 5600x for $279, 32gb ram for $210. Not saying what I’ve done was right but the reason I did that (other than needing a comp asap), was:
    • the potential ongoing power usage cost of these new platforms worries me
    • I’m an “average” user, doing office work, casual photoshop and video editing and would like the ability to play current games at 1440p.
    So I would’ve had to pay double the above for new intel or triple for AMD. I expect my current setup to last me 4 years before needing to upgrade.
    My point is while I wouldn’t do this if I was going to spend $600 on a CPU, I think if you’re after best value for basic needs there’s still a case for going AM4.

    • John Doh on 29/09/2022 - 16:33
      +1

      The power consumption figures you are speaking about is only applicable when you are rendering all the time. For gaming etc, it wont be as high, but the extra FPS is worth it. For casual video editing, those power figures makes no difference.

      The rest is true, but not with a 600+$ CPU.

    • Clear on 29/09/2022 - 16:39
      +1

      Another thing worth mentioning are the higher temps with 90 C being the new normal. Arctic and Noctua need to cash in one this with some sales I think.

  • sackrace on 29/09/2022 - 17:33
    +3

    5800x3d only makes sense if you already have an existing platform to drop it into.

    Buying an am4 socket mobo now makes no sense, unless you have some ddr4 you're absolutely dying to use and only plan on gaming.

  • notmarounhindy on 29/09/2022 - 17:54
    +1

    Not a good deal, especially if you don't need the extra PCI-E slots that X570 offers. Just buy the CPU on its own and get a cheap B550 board.

  • dfg555 on 29/09/2022 - 19:10

    This CPU smokes the 12900K and 7700X in gaming and temps.

  • AlienC on 29/09/2022 - 20:22

    Waiting on a 5800X3D prebuilt with 3080 or above then its game on time

  • Benzaah on 29/09/2022 - 20:48

    This is a bad deal. B650 is coming and we are yet to see the 7000 series X3D variants.

  • motion2082 on 30/09/2022 - 22:53

    7000 X3D will smoke this deal but don’t hold your breath as that wont be released until Q2 2023

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