Been waiting for this to go on sale. Great for remotes and low battery drain devices.
CamelCamelCamel.
Are most battery 10-years anti-leakage shelf life?
Electricity is way too expensive to be wasting on charging Eneloops. Get a real battery that recharges instantly by replacing it with a new one
What if you have solar?
Solar paid for with taxpayers’ subsidies? That’s like Robin Hood in reverse polarity
Wow where is this happening?
I understood Solar (RECs) were funded through a % cost on on electricity.
To assist in the transition away from polluting generation assets. So we can improve overall planetary health and risks associated with anthropogenic climate change. Especially around impact to assets and infrastructure and health of vulnerable populations. Must of got it wrong.
@Ok computer: Taxpayers/energy users, it's the same demographic so the distinction doesn't really matter, in fact I'd say energy users probably encompasses even more of the "low end" than "tax payers" does, once tax free thresholds and deductions come into play.
So yeah, it's other people, quite a lot of whom would probably be renters, paying subsidies for "wealthy" people to feel green (even though Australia could literally disappear tomorrow and our impact on the climate wouldn't even be measurable) and lower their bills.
But hey, I'm one of those people, I took the taxpayers money and put solar on my place when the feed in was a bit better than it is now. Payback period was like 2.5 years. I think with current feed in tariffs and higher panel prices the payback period is mostly now out to 5 years + at a minimum, unless you use like all of your power during sunlight hours.
Solar is helping Australian govt towards becoming carbon neutral. You want govt to subsidise big energy corporations?
Oil is also subsidised. Only you don't see it. They lobby the govt and their project go through. That's been the case for ages. So there's no harm in subsidising solar
@tharlow Australian fossil fuel subsidies surge to $11.6 billion in 2021-22
But you don't have an issue with each Australian family paying over $1,200 a year in fossil fuel subsidies??
@Binchicken22: Oh you're one of those "fake news" when you don't like what you hear.
The fossil fuel companies don't deny they're getting subsidies, they lobby for it.
Nothing wrong with that. If I thought my company was worthy of a subsidy I would lobby for it also!!
@PukeyLuke: The majority of that subsidy is just businesses like farmers claiming tax credits on fuel used in machinery, it isn't going to fossil fuel producers and without it you would just be paying more for food etc.
What if you have solar?
What about opportunity cost?
A standard cell has a stored energy of about 1.2Ah. With a nominal voltage of 1.2V, this gives us a power of 1.464 Watt-hours. Power conversion is not a 100% efficient process. Let’s say that it’s 80% efficient. So, to put 1.464 Watt-hours of energy into a battery, it will require about 1.75 Watt-hours of energy from your local power utility.
You can look up the cost of power where you live, which will be rated in kiloWatt-hours. Where I am, it’s $0.33cents per kilowatt-hours.
Changing our battery charging energy over to kilowatt-hours, it’s .00175 kiloWatt-hours.
.00175kWh*$.33/kWh = $0.005775
8 batteries = $0.005775
Not even worth mentioning power cost vs the damage to environment from the landfill
This is how you know someone doesn’t have enough eneloops.
@ATangk: Doesn't matter how many you have, eventually you're going to need to find time to recharge a bunch of batteries.
@PainToad: Not really, just keep hot spares. i.e have batteries on the charger all the time and swap them for the flat ones.
@PainToad: You don't gather all of your flat batteries and find time to charge them all at once, or at least that's not what I do.
You have the charger set up somewhere, next to a stash of full batteries. When your device runs the batteries flat, you put the flat batteries into the charger, and pull out replacement full batteries.
Not once have I had to wait for batteries to charge to use them.
It really couldn't be much simpler.
It really couldn't be much simpler.
It could be. Like so;
1) insert batteries. 2) use device 3) throw old batteries away 4) insert new batteries 5) repeat.
@PainToad: Sorry, I meant to say it really couldn't be much simpler in the context of operating and charging rechargable batteries.
You're right, it's a lot simpler to be a lazy (profanity) in general though.
@PainToad: Except that 3) throw old batteries away 4) insert new batteries
takes exactly as much effort as 3) put old batteries into charger 4) insert already charged batteries into device
There's no more inconvenience and no more time required 🤷🏼♂️
@Nom: Much easier to throw something away then having to; 1) find the charger 2) plug the charger in 3) wait for it to charge 4) take batteries out of charger 5) place recharged batteries in storage 6) disconnect charger 7) put charger back into storage.
@PainToad: Yes, if my care has a flat tyre, it is much easier to throw my car away than replacing the tyre with the spare one and driving to a service station to reinflate the flat tyre ;p
@PainToad: Imagine how many batteries you could have charged in the time you spend being deliberately obtuse about batteries on the internet!
The time it took you to write this message could have been better used recharging a few batteries.
It only takes a minute if you have it setup somewhere.
So you're saying i can save half a cent by just buying more batteries? I'm in!
Any deals on a casio calculator to verify this claim?
My brain hurts after reading that
Damn, where do you live that it's .33c per kWh?
I pay about .20c in Qld.
adelaide
@Jugganautx: I thought renewables were supposed to make electricity cheaper? Why is our biggest renewable energy state also our most expensive energy state?
i pay 44.352 c/kWh on peak hours, 9-3, because i have solar, this is most likely the solar tax
@jjj123: 53c peak here.
2-8pm. (cuz they need elec)
at this same time, solar FIT is 5c (cuz they don't need elec)
my devices wouldn't run on 1.2V rechargeable batteries - they needed 1.5V non-rechargeable batteries.
Why isn't the gov subsidising envolpes
Australia post has entered the chat
think you might have dropped a 0 in your calculations?
.00175kWh*$.33/kWh = should be $0.0005775 (not $0.005775)
Solar Blanket from previous Repco deal +
Old motorcycle Battery +
12V socket
= Free charging for low power draw stuff
Add inverter for 240V
Deep cycle for more power
It's not rocket science people
I've thought about doing this, but it seems like a lot of effort and expense to save < 0.5 cents on electricity per charge. And if you have solar panels as well, then it's cheaper and easier to just plug in for charge during daylight hours and save that 0.5 cents.
That's the rarely considered side benefit of running an illegal grow house, you can recharge your batteries for free also.
These recharge fine in my battery charger using the alkaline settings.
😮
Rechargable alkalines are a thing, they just need a different charging method
It's the secret battery companies don't want you to know about. I'd say you'd easily get 10 uses out of them. Only works for alkalines (yes normal batteries as long as they're not carbon zinc or some other type).
@a1234my: I have something that looks identical to this
https://www.auselectronicsdirect.com.au/universal-smart-batt…
Got it from SCA. Says for Rechargeable Alkalines only but there are other identical products that advertise the ability to charge normal alkalines.
Here's another newer version
https://maximalpower.com/products/universal-battery-charger-…
@10101010101: That Maximalpower charger looks interesting, can also charge those rechargeable Li-ion 18650 batteries. But with any of these alkaline battery charger I am still a bit sceptic about how well it works.
There have been chargers for alkaline for ages, but you can only recharge a standard one a couple of times.
How and which charger do you have?
Interested in this as well. That maximalpower charger looks good but pricey considering shipping to Australia.
Yup, same.
I charge them 2 in series; in 1S Lipo mode.
200mAh for AA's, 100mAh for AAA's.
Trick to making them last seems to be to aim for an 80% recharge.
I still have a pair of AA's in my headphones on cycle 20+; it only holds half what it used to, but im just curious to see how long until its useless.
What charger do you have and does it test the capacity limit for those non rechargeable batteries that you're charging?
Imax b6.
And nope; I use the timer feature while I game or surf the net.
I also dont try for full recharges, I do about 75% of the rated capacity, and ive never had a leak.
@MasterScythe: I also have an Imax B6, are you able to recharge non-rechargeable AA batteries with it? And what setting and connectors do you need?
@edfoo: I connect 3 cells in series, and use a magnet to hold the wires on the end.
I use the lithium setting; set to Li-Ion, at 200mAh.
This means it naturally stops charging just before 4.2V, so well within the safety realm of 3x1.5v AA's.
Is this seriously true?
Yep. Alkaline charging isnt a new thing.
Used to be a thing called a re zap in early 2000's you could buy.
You just get single digit cycles usually; rather than multiple dozens for a NiMh or such.
Thanks
Nice landfill.
It’s vitally important to think globally. That is, think of the planet as a hole
How big is the hole?
Hopefully bigger than the sum of its parts
Not as big as those a-holes around XD
Perfect for my polestar 3 which I preordered
why polestar 3, that thing is like $135k
Great for remotes and low battery drain devices.
How many damn remotes do you have??
50
If you do get these instead of rechargeables at least take to Bunnings, Woolworths, Aldi
https://bcycle.com.au/drop-off/
hehehe. You said charge. 😂
Not sure if that was a plus or minus, really
You woke up angry, I just kindly pointed out where you can drop off old batteries
i prefer to give them to children to play with
Relevant username is relevant.
Checks out
My children prefer button batteries
they must have good taste
Officeworks has battery recycling bins too
They have a temporary hold of taking batteries back I was told last week after one exploded in their stores.
Damn.. thanks for the heads up
Thanks, once they are delivered I'll take them and drop them off.
Do I need to remove them from the packaging first?
why not residential recycling bin>?
ask your council what can go in those, you'll find apart from food packaging & paper, almost nothing else can
pretty negative way to look at it
Pair with aluminium foil to use in AA devices also
?? how
Cover up one of the As with a tiny piece of foil
thats p cool, so dont really need AA's ..
10-years anti-leakage shelf life