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Hi folks, as we did with 30 series cards, we have secured decent numbers of Gainward Phantom RTX 4090 24GB cards. They are expected to arrive in the first week of November. There is no lower price in Australia. Enjoy!
Caleb
[Pre Order] Gainward Phantom RTX 4090 24GB Graphics Card $2799 + Delivery (From 1st Week November) @ TechFast
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3rd time's the charm:
HODLSS 3.0
In all seriousness, though, still HODL.
AMDs new cards, launching soon, won't be too much cheaper than this.
But most mining cards have not been dumped yet (despite miners having already missed the best time to sell, and being in danger of losing even more the longer they wait. Crypto is not shooting back up for a while, guys. It's over).
So we still may see a price crash in the used market big enough to tank new prices back to normal levels, and (hopefully) well beyond. Like last time, half of current new prices is likely (if not better - more miners this time). And if eBay price trend is anything to go by, we won't be waiting more than a couple of months or so (maybe weeks).
I won't downvote this though; for the rich/keen/silly folks who are buying these at launch, this is the best price around.
I bet the 4090Ti is out in 6 months at $2500AUD, but that just means nVidia still gets your money and cycle of greed continues.
Once they fix the fact that they have abandoned it due to it melting GPUs and PSUs?
"Phantom is a ghost or something that seems to appear but that doesn't actually exist."
Just like my ability to afford this.
May need one for work, depends if will this run solitaire
It depends. This GPU probably could be a budget option for 4k ultra setting solitaire gaming but I doubt its strength for solitaire in 8k solution.
What if I bought three and a half GPUs?
You might scrape by playing minesweeper.
I am happy with 6000fps
I remember the good old days when you bought a new PC and the first thing you did as a benchmark is play and complete solitaire to see how fast the cards bounce away at the end. Getting the first Pentiums was like "wheee, look at them cards flyyyy!!!"
can't afford a graphic card at this price
We're in the team intel club, lets go team poor blue!
There are other graphics cards…
I can afford it, BUT I won't. this is insane greed from Nvidia. nothing more. They are pricing as if the mining boom was still a thing.
Dont say that. Coz you be bragging apparently. I got negged when i said i can afford one also but dont want to buy one.
Other people downvoted you btw, I didn't even though you were replying to me.
Upvoted because of this is true
"this is insane greed from Nvidia. nothing more. They are pricing as if the mining boom was still a thing."
Agree, already decided I'll get AMD over this overpriced junk.
@Toxic: Yeah if anything, over the last few weeks of ARC reviews and new card reviews, the AMD 6600 and 6600 XT seem to be really good cards for the price.
@checkingthisout: I'm hoping to get 6800 or 6800xt at around 500 AUD and I can live with that for a very long time and won't even need a new PSU. There was time when people were posting bargains here… not that something is in stock…
Stop complaining, there's a card at every price point
Missing the point of this entire website though. To get the best price of any item. And when companies are looking like price gouging they call it like it is.
Stop complaining, there's a card at every price point
We have every right to be frustrated when there haven't been ANY new cards in the budget, mid, and mid-to-high price ranges for the last 2 years.
And the cards in the high and very-high price ranges are actually just the budget and mid-range cards, with the actual high-end cards costing new insane multiples of normal high-end prices.
Since when our oz ‘bargainers’ deserve a $2,800 AUD graphic card for gaming?
I strongly advise this should be posted on the website ‘ozrich’ instead.
It’s OzBargain not OzFrugal.
Remember the $30,000 gold Thai flight pass a while back? Great deal, if you were planning on dropping 30 grand on flights anyway.
Ofc, some of us are here for the discount instant noodles (myself included).
same people dropping 30k on flights will still enjoy discount instant ramen.
it's not mutually exclusive to enjoy a good bargain.
It's cheap if it gets you the best possible gaming experience for the next 3 years.
No decent games that push it. I can play everything at 4k at/near max on a 3080 still.
They've dumbed down the pc games the past 2 years making them on the consoles.
Remember the good old days of Crysis?
Star Citizen will still push it but not due to the graphics being years ahead.
This reads like you think 60 FPS is the target to hit for all PC games…
Either way, this is not the card to buy for value for money. We should see some shift in pricing in November for the 4080 cards.
By November we may be seeing a proper ex-mining price crash in the used market. 3080s are already below $750 used. They could hit $500 before December. Maybe even better. Fingers crossed.
I was more thinking that AMD would force a price change from NVIDIA, as currently the strategy seems to be NVIDIA forcing 30 series stock to be sold through.
They have no interest in the used market, simply that they're not making huge losses on what looks to be 9-12 weeks worth of 30 series stock that was expected to be sold a few months ago.
nvidia controls all 3k and 4k chip allocations and future chip allocations.
also contractual agreements on what's the penalty (eg. less future allocations) when the 3rd party card makers step out of line.
you can hope, but nvidia is playing the long game to squeeze as much profit out of the 3000s , then the 4000s.
it's going to be a long wait.
The 1060 only just got dethroned as the most used card on Steam HW survey. If anything PC gaming has been so stagnated by GPU prices devs are dumbing it down for us. The PS5 and XSX are basically RX5700xt level, Haven't seen that tier as recommended spec for any game so far.
How did they get dethroned if they're still the most used card on Steam?
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/steam-hardware-softw…
It's important to understand WHY the 1060 was the most popular card: it happened to be the budget-to-mid-range offering when all the ex-mining GPUs where dumped after the last big mining-induced GPU price hike years ago. Half those gamers bought them when they hit a third of RRP after crypto crashed.
For the record, that price hike was nowhere near as big as this one (the great mining-induced GPU price hike of 2020-2022). So, most likely, the coming dump (already started dump?) will be much bigger too.
These cards can finally hit 144fps in 4k/5k on pretty much any modern game. Good luck getting close to that on a 3080 without dialling down settings
I was playing back 4 blood on max last night 4k at 100 - 120fps. I'm happy with anything over 60
An important note is that 4000 series is kneecapped to 4k/120hz since it does not support DP2.0 (only 1.4) unless you want to enable the less superior 4:4:4 mode to achieve 144hz. This was a dick move by Nvidia.
Also when Star Citizen comes out this card will be 6 generations old.
Who play's Star Citizen any more? that game is already dead so my guess is they wont be even bother to release that game ever.
Wont stop them flogging the dead horse though.
with 45Mil in funding, i wonder if they could hire the EVGA folks and make their own cards by now.
When Start Citizen come out we already in Mars mining marcian.
yeah, there is not much point in buying hardware like this when devs have to hamstring their games so that they can run on consoles.
this guy thinks a 90 class card is here to provide value for money
Cyberpunk 2077 is adding Ray Tracing Overdrive Mode and that'll break even the 4090 without DLSS 3.0 enabled.
It's already 20% off, LMAO lets go, wonder if it will hit 50%+ quickly.
RRP of 4090 is approx 3000. This is nowhere 20% off.
When has a card ever sold at RRP right out the gate. DREAMING!
I will wait till they are giving me cash to take a video card or two.
Dont you want a 1KW power supply and next 4 years commitment of paying your power bills for free from nvidia?
The way things are going we all going to need a mini nuclear reactor at home to power these up.
@xoom: If you undervolt this card and use a power cheap CPU like the 5800X3D then you can run this off on a 700W gold PSU and still get almost the same FPS. Nvidia pushed this card hard probably to compete with Rad 7000
@xoom: By the way things are going, the RTX 5000 series cards will be the size of a small case and will have a slot for you to insert the motherboard into. LOL /S
Though this is a nice deal, There is plenty of stock this time around and I would hold till atleast all the reviews are out. Asus Tuf which used to be a decent performer performed below FE card in the review because they gimped on the heatsink size compared to gigabyte. So wait for reviews if you are dropping this much cash on a card that you will probably keep for next 4 to 6 year.
Based on the benchmark, even the founders edition stays around 70 degrees when stressing the GPU, which is actually quite good. So hopefully, the custom cards are not worse.
Remember there was some power draw issues with capacitance soldered on the back of the card on the 3080 series? Who knows what these has :)
https://www.techspot.com/news/86900-capacitor-issues-causing…
All the cards seem to be almost at there limits so they are all about the same, just undervolt them, you will see more gain from a lower power bill then a few extra frames even at 4k.
Ya, thats true, reviews are already popping up everywhere and anadtech seems to have most of the reviews in one place. Its just a matter of couple of days to get all the data.
If I would buy this card, I would probably power limit it to 300W and get best of both worlds.
I would run it at 1.21 jigawatts and set the date to nov 5, 1955.
so get a high-end card to run it at limited rate
vs
get a earlier gen or mid-range card to run it at whatever rate…i don't get why but okay, that sounds like FOMO.
@slowmo: You're trading a 2-5% FPS lose or Less! For a power consumption drop of 33% or More, ask yourself can you really see thoughs extra few frames at 200+ fps or can you see a reduced power bill. nVidia has clocked these cards to the max as seen in the limited OC headroom, meaning they are using an unnecessary amount of wattage for no reason.
@zCrimson: I am saying is that it's a possibility that a similar FPS can be achieved by a cheaper higher end card that you don't need to under-volt?
all the 3000s are priced right under 4000s for obvious reasons. so there's no value proposition pay for something that you don't run 100%. This is purely my opinion.
the drop in FPS might be far greater if you factor in resolutions for multiple displays, but sure, on a single monitor, it doesn't mean much.
@slowmo: 450 watts - 250 FPS
300 watts - 235 FPSThats how efficient these cards are. Its alright in winter, but if you are anywhere in QLD or NT and plan to game at 450W for GPU alone, you will know what I mean ;)
@John Doh: jokes on everyone. now AMD is embracing the 'stable 95deg' by default design.. you are going to get a 1000W space heater regardless if you like it or not. :P
@slowmo: AMD 95Deg is not because they consume more power, but becuse the chiplets area is too small unlike Intel which is a monolith die. The chiplets simply cant disspate so much heat for the power it consumes. Delidding it helps reduce temps by 20C but thats too much work/risk.
@John Doh: regardless of power consumption (iirc, it is greater default TDP 170Wvs 105W - from amd.com) than the net result due to a hot CPU is a hotter ambient temp unless you are actively cooling your ambient temp also.
the heat has to end up in the room regardless on what cooling solution you use.
@slowmo: When I said less power consumption, I said when comparing it to similarly performing processor from intel. 170W or more TDP is when you are running higher end 16C CPUs. Not many would buy them tho. However even 8C and 6C CPUs which consume lot less can also hit 95 its because of the die of the chiplets being too small.
More info here - https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ryzen-7000-could-rumored-t…
Slightly serious question, for the 4080/4090, do they not have a founders edition in Australia this time around?
NO!
It’s always US first. That’s why Americans still have the original price for PS5 and we have to pay extra $50 for it!
given how much the AU $ has dropped lately, $50 isn't that bad TBH.
It’s US’s fault because they increase interest for their own favor!
Australia and New Zealand won't be getting the founders edition.
translation : Australia and New Zealand have fat wallets send our 3rd parties there to compete while we (nvidia) can undercut the ones back home for more anyway.
Didn't the 3000 FE cards just go to MWave employees last time?
I thought they did a raffle or something for people to get them
Just waiting for 6600 XT or 3060 Ti to drop on price.
YEAH, NA!
Holy ****. That's a lot to spend on a graphics card. If I were a rich man….
… I'd still feel stupid buying this.
What is this 'Gainward' - I wish Techfast would do a deal with a fully water cooled system….
Techfast is about budget PCs and maximising price to performance. A fully water cooled system is a nice way to double the system cost whilst providing the same level of performance. Plus, customer returns would be an absolute nightmare.
Good deal but I think I have HODL'd so much since the 3000 series that I now just want to see if I can HODL for a 5070ti.
intentional price control from nvidia, to clear out 3000s.
not gunna budge.
This will go well with my Meta Quest Pro pre-order and my bankruptcy.
Dropped $300 in less than 24 hours! Keep HODLing
I got down voted for saying the same thing in a different way.
Be honest, if you're getting a card, you're waiting for a real drop in 3080, 3080 ti or 3090.
So it was
Wait for ethereum merge
Wait for RTX release
now it will be wait for RNDA3 which i think will frankly join the price hike, but slightly lower depending on whether they beat nvidia (which will trigger a price war) or if they are 5% lower for 5% less cost, then both companies will sit happily where they are.
Meanwhile RTX 3080 used prices are anywhere between 700-900 on the marketplace (from shit tier to top tier models)
Used 3070s are reasonable at 500-700, and 3060s are positively bargain basement prices (and with DLSS, can handle most games acceptably on 4k on high settings).
Looking for a used 3090 in the $1100-1200 range, a few around that price on ebay recently. Then I can retire my 1080 to the shed.
Miners are dragging their feet, that's all. Too many of them don't seem to realise mining is dead now (at least for a while) and they need to sell their cards or lose hundreds as everyone else sells and GPU prices fall.
They can't hold out forever, and they are losing dollars daily while they try.
Yep miners not dropping prices (thanks to nvidia), and people hodling for market to drop prices further.
Seem to be some decent deals around now. Ended up finding that 3090 @ $1100 I was HODL'ing for (12 months old and great condition).
Other miners I've chatted with are just oblivious to the drops still though.
luke you forgot the PCPartPicker breakdown of this system..
..oh
As expected they're basically giving away next gen! hodl right people?
HODLS