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Gaming PC: Ryzen 5 5600, RTX 4080 16GB GPU, B550 MB, 16GB 3200MHz RAM, 500GB M.2 SSD, 750W Gold PSU: $2788 + Post @ TechFast

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5600-4080-NOVEMBER

Howdy folks. 4080 launch day! As always, we've done our absolute best to deliver the lowest entry point possible into the new tech.

And as we've done previously, we have two inbound Gainward card shipments confirmed, with two separate timed products available for purchase. Once the first sells out, the link will expire, leaving only the second live. First PCs will ship from around the end of November onwards, second batch during December.

NOVEMBER PC

Ryzen 5 5600 RTX 4080 Gaming PC - November: $2788 after 5600-4080-NOVEMBER

  • AMD Ryzen 5 5600 processor (5700X upgrade available)
  • RTX 4080 16GB (primarily Gainward in use)
  • B550M motherboard (B550M DS3H or equivalent - guaranteed Gigabyte Aorus Elite B550 ATX upgrade available and recommend for superior temps)
  • 16GB 3200MHz RAM (brand/model may vary)
  • 500GB NVMe m.2 SSD (brand/model may vary)
  • 750W 80 Plus Gold PSU (brand/model may vary)
  • White Leaper Air Maxx ATX case (Deepcool Matrexx 55 upgrade available and required for 240/360mm liquid cooler)
  • Stock AMD air cooler by default (120mm AIO max upgrade available in Air Maxx case; 240mm and 360mm available requiring Matrexx 55 upgrade)

DECEMBER PC

Ryzen 5 5600 RTX 4080 Gaming PC - December: $2788 after 5600-4080-DECEMBER

4090 Update
Good news - the communicated timeline of us receiving and dispatching them next week looks to be holding. Thank you for your patience.

Cheers,
Caleb and Luke

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  • +52

    This is incredibly impressive given current price gouging retailers are trying to charge $2500+ for the 4080 by itself…

    • +2

      Agreed, great value

    • +15

      Not that impressive for the HODLers who's expecting 4080 to be $1000ish at retail tho.

      • +5

        Not much the retailer can do about that. The 4080 is just a badly priced card designed to filter buyers either to the 4090 or an Ampere card.

    • +3

      GPU has a lot of margin. But I agree this PC is well-done pricing đź‘Ť

    • +1

      it has to do with techfasts methods, most of the parts are 'brand model may vary", honestly not the worst idea given price fluctuations

      • +3

        By the time you upgrade key components and pay for shipping the value disappears.

        • +2

          Honestly, once you put a proper sized SSD in I can't really fault techfast builds. I've had quite a few friends buy from them and I'm yet to have any issues with parts.

          They're not a 'premium' build, and I'm not a fan of the gigabyte PSUs, but they haven't failed any of my friends yet and if someone doesn't feel comfortable building their own, they are by far the best value for money.

  • +4

    Any mid-range PCs before Xmas ?

    • Hi Danstar.
      No plans at this stage but may have something coming.

      • I would love a mid-range offer too

        • +2

          Oh yeah a mid range with 3090 / 3090ti would be great /s

      • Hey rep, it'd be great to see something similar to this:
        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/713009

        My PC of 7 years died last night :(

      • I'm also in the market for a mid range

      • anything with 13600k?

    • i thought this was a mid range in the new GPU set

      • +2

        Bro this is like the 2nd best performing GPU available going for $2.5k. After watching reviews it smashes 6950xt / 3090ti

        Mid range is usually 60/70 models.

    • Pardon my ignorance.. is this one on the post considered high or low end? I haven't touched a PC.. much less a gaming pc in almost 2 decades

      • +1

        High end. 2nd best performing card in the market (excluding to be launched 7900 xtx and 7900 xt)

      • +1

        @apoy98 … this GPU came out a couple of days ago. The past few years have been a roller coaster due to people mining crypto, Covid, and logistics issues (inc price of computer parts)

        To ans your question … it’s high end for now … but it’s a very good deal

  • -8

    They find other ways to price gouge you. If you want to upgrade other parts of the build, the surcharge is ridiculous.

    • +1

      Not sure why you were so harshly downvoted. The CPU upgrade is really quite expensive :(

      • People are just sheep. $200 from a 5600 to 5700x when the difference in price is like $130.

  • +2

    Not a bad deal but only problem is Nvidia's crazy price for their GPUs.

  • +14

    Amazing value system for an extremely overpriced card.

    • -1

      please post the deal.

      • -2

        Radeon 7900 XTX

        • -3

          post the deal with the price

          • +1

            @HolyCr4p: Dec 13th, get excited :D

            • @Magik: nah thanks….. am happy with my ps 5 :P

            • -1

              @Magik: Hope you set your alarm cause it’ll sell out in 10 minutes

              • +1

                @cheng2008: I'm more excited about how the 7900 xtx is going to lay the smack down on Nvidia ! :D

                • @Magik: Yeah for the 5% of people that actually get their order filled

        • +2

          My bet is it will launch for $2500 here no mater how cheap the internet says it will be

  • -2

    OP, will the GPU installed in this build be this one? https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/730262

    • That deal is for a 4090. This deal includes a 4080.

      • -1

        damn it, too hopeful. lol

    • Hi there, these will be 4080's but likely similar model.

      • will it be phantom or phoenix? phoenix has a bit of thermal issue on 3080s… less on phantom.

  • +7

    A 5600 seems like a bottleneck… but the system is almost free with the GPU.

    • 5700X upgrade available lol

    • Yea, I would pair this PC with a 6800 GPU.
      For a 4080 Ryzen 5 build I would be going with a 5800X3D CPU, X570 ATX Mobo, 32GB 3600Mhz RAM and a 1TB 970 Evo Plus.

      • Worthy upgrades. Curious to see how much that would add to the final price.

        • About $700. A 25% increase for a well-rounded, long lasting high-spec PC for both gaming and productivity.
          Alternatively, save around $1k and get this PC but with the 6800 for a well-rounded mid-spec PC.

    • At 4K High should be okay? Great system to hook up to your 4K 120Hz TV for some armchair gaming, maybe not so good for the competitive shooters

    • +6

      Maybe if you're playing at 1080p, which this card would be overkill for anyway, if you're playing at 4k not sure it matters too much if the CPU is a 13900k a 5600 or just some mashed potato squashed into the socket

  • +1

    That's quite a bit of value right there, I see the potential to buy it, snag out the 4080 into existing decent system, put current GFX card in it, and sell the system on.

    Curious what price techfast could do on a 4080 by itself, but I strongly suspect that would be average, maybe ~$100 less than somewhere else.

  • +1

    Do you accept custom build requests? Most of the builds I see cater for gaming, and for example, I want it to be both for gaming and something else that may require high CPU usage… I'm keen to build one but couldn't be bothered building it myself lol. Just curious.

    Thanks.

    • +1

      Hi there,
      Not at this stage. It is generally just what we have available on deal sites/our website.

    • +4

      why really a 4070?

      • I think this relates to the GPU. Past generations have seen the xx80 and xx90 using the same GPU architecture, with the xx90 just carrying more enabled CUDA cores and RAM. Then a slightly different GPU architecture was released as the xx70.

        For the 40xx cards this has changed and there is different architecture and core count and RAM for the 4080 and 4090. Making the 4080s look more like the old xx70 series cards.

        • +3

          Past generations have seen the xx80 and xx90 using the same GPU architecture, with the xx90 just carrying more enabled CUDA cores and RAM.

          I don't understand this argument.

          The immediately previous generation, 3090, 3080 Ti and 3080 were all built on the GA102 chip, yes. But this is an outlier, not the rule.

          Going back a step further, the TITAN RTX and 2080 Ti were TU102, but the 2080 (Super) and 2070 Ti were TU104.

          Another step back, TITAN X and 1080 Ti were GP102 while 1070 through 1080 were all GP104.

          There's more historical precedent for the 4080 to be a different chip from the 4090 rather than the same.

          Even ignoring all the historical naming, there's no real reason they have to segment their marketing names the same way they segment the chip designs. At the end of the day it's going to come down to the yields and other assorted manufacturing costs of that particular process node, and that's going to be the same as previous nodes. "The 4080 is on a different chip from the 4090" is a meaningless argument.

          Of course, judging by relative price vs performance (vs features) does make sense, and that's where the 4080 falls flat. Its performance both compared to the previous gen and compared to its own gen's halo 4090 makes it unattractive at its RRP.

          (Of course, overloading the 4080 name with two very different cards is a much bigger problem. Thankfully they walked that one back after the complaints.)

          • @elusive: I stand corrected on prevalence… Could only recall 30xx series and made two dumb assumptions. 1 - the poster above wasn't talking about the cancelled 12GB and 2 - what happened last time with architectures was a pattern.

            I'm not sure that "is on a different chip" is a meaningless argument. It all depends on the limitations associated with the chip doesn't it? Would you agree or disagree that a fanciful 4080 AD102 with the same core count and RAM as the current 16GB 4080, but with the AD102 cache and bandwidth would perform better than the 4080 that was released? In all reality this will probably be the 4080ti/super down the track I guess.

            • @nitens:

              Would you agree or disagree that a fanciful 4080 AD102 with the same core count and RAM as the current 16GB 4080, but with the AD102 cache and bandwidth would perform better than the 4080 that was released?

              I think that there's not much point saying "it should've been an AD102". If the chip design is such that there's a significant bottleneck on memory bandwidth, then saying "the 4080 should've had a higher memory bandwidth" could be valid but that's somewhat independent of what chip designation they used.

              But there's so many things you could have had 'just a little more' of. At the end of the day it's still a yes/no question of "should you buy this card with this performance at this price". Just about everything has a reasonable price bracket. I think you could meaningfully argue that this card should cost less, or that you should have a better card available at this price. But not that this specific card, or that the "4080" name specifically, must have at least a chip labeled AD102 or must have at least x bits wide memory bus or y GB/s memory bandwidth.

              There is the argument that giving a subpar card the "4080" name is misleading. I would argue that this card isn't subpar: the gap to the 4090 is really more indicative of just how powerful the 4090 is. In the benchmarks I've seen so far, the 4080 is in a good spot performance-wise compared to the previous generation, it's really just the price that lets it down. If they priced it the same as a 3080 (or even 3080 Ti) it'd be an easy buy for a lot of people. But Nvidia tried to have their cake and eat it too: somewhat slimmed down card to fit in the typical generational performance uplift spot, but with a large price hike.

              • @elusive: I don't get why you want to keep agreeing - ie above it seems like you're agreeing the "is on a different chip" isn't a meaningless argument as you suggested in your previous post. Then going on to make additional comment or arguments that I never made in some attempt to sound knowledgeable with the ability to correct others. I never stated that the 4080 had to be AD102, I was trying to offer insight into why someone may be making the 4070 claim (assuming that they weren't referencing the withdrawn 12GB), nothing more. Neither did I make any comment on any proposed value associated with a 4080 purchase right now.

                I don't understand your price to performance arguments. It looks to me like Nvidia just has a frames/dollar equation that they are applying across the 30 and 40 series. 4080 offers more than 3080, so it costs proportionally more based on the performance uplift. Rather than the typical generational performance increase at the same price (or marginally higher) than the RRP on the previous generation, resulting in a frames/dollar shift upwards. So what you're suggesting is equally weird in that every generation has to see the frames/dollar go up rather than staying flatter.

                I guess time, and what AMD is able to deliver, will tell.

                • @nitens:

                  above it seems like you're agreeing the "is on a different chip" isn't a meaningless argument as you suggested in your previous post

                  In short: the specifics of the chip, in designation, core count, memory bandwidth, or otherwise, shouldn't be the focus. Only the measurable performance and features matter for your average consumer making the purchase decision. If the decreased memory bandwidth results in a significant performance hit, that'll come out in benchmarking.

                  I never stated that the 4080 had to be AD102

                  And yet the question you asked me was:

                  Would you agree or disagree that a fanciful 4080 AD102 with the same core count and RAM as the current 16GB 4080, but with the AD102 cache and bandwidth would perform better than the 4080 that was released?

                  That is the hypothetical/question my last comment was responding to. We'd already drifted away from talking about the 4070, and even the OP conversation, after our first two comments in this chain.

                  So what you're suggesting is equally weird in that every generation has to see the frames/dollar go up rather than staying flatter.

                  Perhaps. You did just say improved perf/price is typical, which would make this new gen atypical :)

                  End result is still the same in that it disincentivizes people from buying 40xx at all unless they really need >30xx performance. Which may well be their goal, as some have speculated.

                  And yea, we'll see where AMD fits in this stack.

      • Might be confusing it for the card that was known as 4080 12GB - there was a big controversy since it shared the x80 naming despite being an entire tier below the 4080 16GB (This one). Since then, NVIDIA has renamed it to 4070ti…

        • Sort of…. 4080 16GB still runs an AD103 architecture, and not the AD102 of the 4090. This means that the memory bandwidth is lower and a few other things that I don't know if they really matter or not. I agree that the 12GB was another step down (AD104) and calling it the same thing as the 16GB with the only suggested difference being the amount of memory was deeply misleading.

      • -1

        A 4080 is really a 4070 more or less, check it out compared to NVIDIA CUDA Cores count:

        9728 vs 16384 - 60% (4080 vs 4090)
        5888 vs 10496 - 56% (3070 vs 3090)
        2304 vs 4352 - 53% (2070 vs 2080Ti)

        https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/geforce/graphics-cards/compare/

    • +4

      So, 2000-2100 for the 4080 that's retailing between 2400-3000 isn't that great a deal? It's at least 15% off other sources at this point in time which isn't shabby for the brand new shiny.

    • Are you confusing this with a 4080 12GB (since discontinued, likely to be relaunched as a 4070) ?

  • +2

    Why is the MSRP in the States US$1100(AU$1779) but AU$2219 here?

    • +11

      Australia tax. They expect us to pay more. Been happening for years.

      • +3

        Smaller population = smaller demand = higher prices, off the standard trade routes, our dying economy, many reasons

    • +7

      They don't have GST. So the price is a bit closer.

    • +2

      Isn't US MSRP $1199? Or did it change on release?

      • +1

        You are right, should be 1199. It was a typo, the AUD conversion was done based on 1199.

        • +1

          Remember this is the price pre sales tax in the US as they don't need to include tax in their pricing (because it varies a lot by state and county, or not at all in some areas)

          Assuming 1200USD converting to AUD+GST and import duties. Anything over $2055 AUD is a complete rip off. Anything under that is just everyday Nvidia price gouging.

    • Why do people ask this all the time?

      • Its good to continually bring awareness to it regardless i think!

      • They forget US prices are ex-tax, unless you live in one of the lucky 0% states.

  • +1

    At this trend, 4070 probably also above $2k, that’s a mid range card. NGreedia.
    If NGreedia sales well, 5070 will be $3k?

  • +2

    hey @luketechfast,

    Will you guys be offering the Gainward 4080 stand alone like you did for the Gainward 4090? Just curious.

    • +1

      Hi Jsmooth57,
      Nothing planned at this stage.

  • +5

    Glad to see you guys putting this together, but I'm going AMD next gen. If you offer a build with the soon to release AMD cards around this price it will be a day 1 purchase for me.

  • +7

    Hey @techfast team,
    Any black friday deals coming in the $1000-1500 price range?

    • +4

      +1, I am waiting for this! This exact machine with a 3060ti or 3070 is what I'm looking for

    • +2

      buy this and sell the 4080 for $2700 then buy a 3060ti

  • -2

    An un popular opinion here. Why we need to upgrade to the latest gen GPU unless u have a 4k 120hz+ TV/monitor? I cannot max out a 3090 except Cyberpunk on a 4k 60hz monitor with Nvidia frame capping. If u use 120hz TV, the input lag is higher than monitor, which make TV less suitable for competitive FPS gaming, which restricts high end GPU use case even more.

    • +7

      Not unpopular. We don't have to upgrade. You can happily used your 3090 for many more years.

    • +1

      Some people just upgrade for pissing competitions with their mates. No other reason…

      • +1

        Some people are looking to upgrade from a GTX980…. as by the time the 30 series became affordable, it was ready to be replaced.

        • +3

          That would be me :) but from a 1070

          • +2

            @Jeaso: 1070 here also. Excited about a full new 40 series build early in the new year.

            • +1

              @harvestloon: Same here but I'm pretty sure I'll go the 7900xtx instead and upgrade to a 34" ultrawide with the money saved over nvidia

    • +2

      Depends on the display tech, OLED has lower responsiveness (meaning better performance) than LCD. There’s also the higher responsiveness when playing at 120hz.

      It’s a waaaaaaay more complex issue than “monitor better than TV”. Your point isn’t really valid nor well considered.

      • Hence, "Why we need to upgrade to the latest gen GPU unless u have a 4k 120hz+ TV/monitor?" I didnt completely neg TV users, I use TV to play Cyberpunk myself. I would assume a 4k 120HZ TV is for gaming, as not many streaming contents are for 4K 120Hz, DLSS for TV is not out yet. Then a 4K 120Hz+ TV with good response time/input latency is less cost effective than a good 4k 120Hz+ monitor.

        • The latest gen TVs have something like 5-6ms input lag (high end TVs have been capable of sub 10ms since the last 3-4 years or more). That's not far off the highest of high end monitors (its so close that the difference is negligible) so your statement about monitor having less input lag doesn't really hold up. People buying a 4090 for TV gaming are most likely going to have a TV that is close to a monitor in input latency and image processing performance. I'm getting a 4090 and my TV does something like 6-7ms in 120hz. With VRR I think the input lag is worse, so that might be in favour of monitors, I don't really know.

          Also, since when are framerates above 60fps for competitive gaming only? Single player campaign games also benefit from the jump from 60 to 120 fps.

          In short, your arguments against the need to upgrade don't stack up very well.

          • @sickaunt: I dont disagree with you on most of the points you mentioned, I use 1080p 160HZ monitor for gaming too.
            That is some serious cash for your gaming setup, Hope you enjoy it.

            • +1

              @s20525xxx: Yeah tell me about it. I'm getting into videography as a serious hobby, so that helps me sleep better at night, instead of tossing and turning over the ridiculous price of the 4090.

    • +2

      Hmm so you bought a $2k+ GPU and decide 2 years later to start judging others who buy $2k+ GPUs

      • I bought my 3090 mainly for mining and work, I wouldnt pay $2K+ for a GPU, solely for gaming, but each to their own.
        I just think 4080 and 4090 are too good, even current games and hardware are not good/cheap/popular enough for them.

        • +1

          If you genuinely use one for work then you would be upgrading as well. Time is money after all

        • -1

          Do you have a guide of how to set up mining pc?

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