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Inno3D GeForce RTX 4070 Ti X3 OC 12GB GDDR6X Graphics Card $1299 Delivered + Surcharge @ Shopping Express

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Inno3D GeForce RTX 4070 Ti X3 OC 12GB GDDR6X Graphics Card $1299 Delivered + Surcharge @ Shopping Express
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Lflyingnimbus on 13/01/2023 - 12:49 shoppingexpress.com.au (1733 clicks)
Last edited 13/01/2023 - 13:03 by 1 other user

Hi all,

Happy Friday! I'm a long time lurker and this is my first time posting.

I just stumbled across this deal after looking for a GPU and thought that it might benefit a few of you that have the budget for this. I understand that MSRP is rubbish but at least its nice to see that the RTX 4070 Ti is already getting cheaper at $1299 which is an ATL.

Please note that this is apart of the SHOPPING EXPRESS EPIC HOUR timed deal occuring on the 15th January at 10pm-11pm with only 10 Units available and free shipping. I will not be purchasing this because it's way out of my budget but I wish good luck to those that are looking for this card at a 'better price' considering the current pricing.

Link to the actual product.
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/inno3d-geforce-rtx-40…

Thanks for being apart of my first post :)

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  • ThirtySixNights on 13/01/2023 - 12:50
    +23

    Still pricey, but arguably worth posting. Free shipping is nice.

    • Ctn on 13/01/2023 - 14:35
      +23
      Card Release price % of 90 class Die size Mem Bus Shaders % of 90 class TMUs % of 90 class ROPs % of 90 class SM % of 90 class Tensor % of 90 class RT % of 90 class
      4090ti (*) 608 384 18176 110.94% 568 110.94% 192 109.09% 142 110.938% 568 110.94% 142 110.94%
      4090 2959 100.00% 608 384 16384 100.00% 512 100.00% 176 100.00% 128 100.000% 512 100.00% 128 100.00%
      4080ti (*) 608 320 14080 85.94% 440 85.94% 144 81.82% 110 85.938% 440 85.94% 110 85.94%
      4080 2219 74.99% 379 256 9728 59.38% 304 59.38% 112 63.64% 76 59.375% 304 59.38% 76 59.38%
      4070 ti 1479 49.98% 295 192 7680 46.88% 240 46.88% 80 45.45% 60 46.875% 240 46.88% 60 46.88%
      3090ti 2499(?) 628 384 10752 102.44% 336 102.44% 112 100.00% 84 102.439% 336 102.44% 84 102.44%
      3090 2429 100.00% 628 384 10496 100.00% 328 100.00% 112 100.00% 82 100.000% 328 100.00% 82 100.00%
      3080ti 1920 79.04% 628 384 10240 97.56% 320 97.56% 112 100.00% 80 97.561% 320 97.56% 80 97.56%
      3080 1139 46.89% 628 320 8704 82.93% 272 82.93% 96 85.71% 69 84.146% 272 82.93% 68 82.93%
      3070ti 959 39.48% 392 256 6144 58.54% 192 58.54% 96 85.71% 48 58.537% 192 58.54% 48 58.54%
      3070 809 33.31% 392 256 5888 56.10% 184 56.10% 96 85.71% 46 56.098% 184 56.10% 46 56.10%
      3060ti 688 28.32% 392 256 4864 46.34% 152 46.34% 80 71.43% 38 46.341% 152 46.34% 38 46.34%
      3060 529 21.78% 276 192 3584 34.15% 112 34.15% 48 42.86% 28 34.146% 112 34.15% 28 34.15%
      3050 249.99 10.29% 276 128 2560 24.39% 80 24.39% 32 28.57% 20 24.390% 80 24.39% 20 24.39%

      "Updated with release pricing I found on the web.

      Stats taken from https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs

      Assuming 4090 is a true 3090 replacement

      Tier:
      *4080 appears like 3070ti tier.
      *4070ti appears like 3060/3060ti tier.

      Pricing wise:
      * 4080 is priced like 3080ti tier
      * 4070ti is priced like 3080 tier.

      • Murpha on 13/01/2023 - 14:55
        +2

        Both 3090 and 4090 are xx102 tier chips, so suggests 4090 does indeed supersede the 3090. The difference is that the 3080 and 3090 series were all xx102 chips. This gen the 4080 seems to be a new in between-er xx103 chip.

        Edit: Should add there is room for a 4080 Ti in the range as the 4080 doesn't use the full 103 chip (assuming they don't further cut-down the 102). The 4070 Ti maxes out the 104 chip.

      • doryappleseed on 13/01/2023 - 15:33

        Based on this table, the 3080 is better than the 4070Ti?

        • Ctn on 13/01/2023 - 15:36
          +3

          It depends what you mean by better.

          The table ignores performance and hopefully helps by looking at how Nvidia structures the cost tiers.

          By Specs, the 3080 is 2 tiers higher than the 4070ti (which is at the 3060/3060ti tier)

      • zCrimson on 13/01/2023 - 15:39
        +5

        Since all these bricks where announced at the same time no Ti extension can be used as of yet.
        4090 = 4090
        4080 16GB = 4070
        4080 12GB = 4060
        How people believe any of nVidia product names at this stage is beyond me, they have a bad history of BS in naming products, current one is the 3060 8Gb its a 3050Ti and that name is still unused.

        • kaleidoscope on 13/01/2023 - 18:20
          +1

          4070 Ti is a really good product when you compare performance and power consumption. Asking price however makes it a joke. The most I’d pay for a 70 series card is $1000 aud rrp (and thats strix or ftw series type)

          • zCrimson on 13/01/2023 - 21:54
            +1

            @kaleidoscope: It preforms very well even more so if it was called what it really is a RTX 4060, but if they did that the 3000 series would sit on shelfs if they didn't get a massive price reduction, thus we have ended up with the market in its current FUBAR state.

      • Johnmac37 on 13/01/2023 - 18:27
        +3

        Assuming 4090 is a true 3090 replacement is the problem. 608mm2 of 4nm is relatively much more than 628mm2 of Samsung 8nm. The uplift in performance is more than any recent generation.

        If the 4090 was smaller would that make the resto f the 4000 series more compelling to you?

        • zCrimson on 13/01/2023 - 21:59

          No the real "problem" is people believing nVidia names their cards correctly without trying to miss lead people in what they are really buying.

  • xyron on 13/01/2023 - 12:52
    +3

    Timbeeeerrrrrr

    Probably reasonable value buying at this price. Funny how markets work

  • Viospeed on 13/01/2023 - 12:55
    +44

    70 class card should be priced around $800 - $900

      • Viospeed on 13/01/2023 - 13:18
        +37

        Because Nvidias margins are too high.

        • DontNeedThis on 13/01/2023 - 13:37

          The customer has to pay for the marketing too. That's why I always go with less-known brands (there aren't any in the GPU space, but for phones and other electronics, that's the best option)

          • Shunto on 13/01/2023 - 16:16
            +1

            @DontNeedThis: That's not true in practice. A brand P&L puts A&P below the gross profit line which is what you measure the health of a brand on. Whilst it's technically true that a higher price drives a higher GP and therefore allows for more A&P to maintain the same Operating profit, there's no real evidence that nVidea have significantly increased marketing efforts.

            This is purely an exercise in 1. Covering genuine COGS increases which could be as high as 30%. 2. Significantly increase GP (margin) / profit behind the cogs absortion.

            In other words, theyre being greedy af

            • DontNeedThis on 13/01/2023 - 16:52
              +1

              @Shunto: Mate, I appreciate your effort in explaining this, but that's a lot of acronyms!

              • Shunto on 13/01/2023 - 18:10
                +1

                @DontNeedThis: Sorry! P&L is profit & loss. Im referring to a brand P&L statement. If you think of it as you start from $100 and things just take money out of it, it's relatively simple and the acronyms just represent things that take from it. From top to bottom it basically outlines total sales then you take out trade terms and promo costs to get net sales, then take out Cost of goods (COGS) to get Gross Profit (GP). After that, you take out A&P (Advertising and Promotions) to get Operating Profit.

                In my (public) company experience we focus a lot at the Gross Profit level to indicate how we're tracking with our overall sales versus what it costs to do that. Given advertising comes after that the customer isnt necessarily 'paying' for that advertising. However, if you decide to drive your advertising through the roof you would want to drive up GP in which case you would want to drive up price to consumers. My overall point is that I haven't seen any increase in nvidea activity so i doubt they are 'getting consumers to pay for advertising,' however we are definitely paying for COGS increases

            • Tailshaft on 14/01/2023 - 18:20

              @Shunto: TLDR: A P&L puts A&P below the GP. The HP drives a higher GP and therefore allows more A&P to maintain the same OP.
              Translation: nVidia is greedy AF.

        • nitens on 13/01/2023 - 14:15
          +1

          Not quite how free market economies work though… Nvidia is entitled to make as big a margin as they can sustain given the current demand. Unfortunately we all made the mistake of suggesting we're holding off upgrading until the next gen which let Nvidia know there was likely to be demand there to play with.

          We should have all just said screw it, I'll but an Xbox/PS.

          • ItsMeAgro on 13/01/2023 - 15:25
            +7

            @nitens: You're saying these high prices are the fault of… buyers who refused to pay high prices?

            Here I was thinking the idiots who paid $3000 to scalpers during the worst of the GPU crisis are to blame for 4000 series pricing…

            • nitens on 13/01/2023 - 16:49
              +2

              @ItsMeAgro: Not at all…

              I'm saying the prices are the fault of the people that are currently buying. Nvidia just knew there was some pent up demand with people having deferred buying during the crisis. They're now trying to exploit that demand while they can.

          • oshkoshjosh4 on 13/01/2023 - 15:48
            +1

            @nitens: Imagine thinking we still live in a free market economy.

      • BargainKen on 13/01/2023 - 16:18
        +4

        Jensen still thinks he can make crypto-market prices on his cards. Sadly the tards on the internet are proving him right.

    • dreamstation on 13/01/2023 - 13:26
      +8

      They charge this much AND want me to pay a surcharge? Yeah nah.

    • ChadHominem on 13/01/2023 - 13:36

      Which is why they wanted to call it an 80 class card. I guess no matter how you choose to rip people off they’ll find something to be unhappy about

      • incipient on 13/01/2023 - 14:16
        +14

        I mean, yeah? Regardless how "how you choose" to rip me off, I'm going to "be unhappy" I'm being ripped off haha.

      • kaleidoscope on 13/01/2023 - 18:24

        Which is why they wanted to call it an 80 class card

        It was a strategic move.

    • maxbon on 13/01/2023 - 13:53

      NVIDIA is moving the price point to where it maximises their profits. And they’ve learned that gamers will put up with higher prices. It’s not like gamers didn’t buy GPUs at the height of the mining craze.

      Oh and while crypto is dead, GPU-based machine learning apps are growing like crazy. Hardware prices will remain elevated.

      • JerraJones on 13/01/2023 - 16:37
        +4

        Except gamers aren't putting up with prices, gpu sales are at a 20 year low. TSMC's partners are also lowering their chip orders across the board. Tech companies are living in a fantasy land.

        • jonomatic on 13/01/2023 - 18:07
          +1

          Yet this post has 50+ upvotes. To be fair maybe gamers didn't upvote it.

    • zCrimson on 13/01/2023 - 15:41
      +2

      That's nice but the specs make this brick a 4060 card more or less.

      • qtvinsta on 13/01/2023 - 18:17
        +2

        Imagine paying ~$1400 for a 4060 card

        • zCrimson on 13/01/2023 - 22:05
          +1

          Don't have to it's already happing. It you remove the names and try to match the specs to past gens using the 4090 as a end marker, gamers would be asking where is the 4080 at all we see is a 4060, 4070 and 4090.

    • TKGX on 13/01/2023 - 16:24
      +5

      haha, I remember when a 70 class card was $450-500 AUD and a 60 class card was $275-300 AUD. What happened? xD

      • qtvinsta on 13/01/2023 - 18:18

        maybe fomo

      • kaleidoscope on 13/01/2023 - 18:26

        What happened? xD

        Greed jumped out of jenson’s jacket.

  • Dalgona456 on 13/01/2023 - 12:56
    +44

    hOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLD

    • zCrimson on 13/01/2023 - 15:42
      +1

      At this stage we need to change it to Retroooooo.

  • MKBHD on 13/01/2023 - 12:58

    Are all the 40 series LHRs still?

    • scud70 on 13/01/2023 - 13:01
      +12

      you can't mine ether so there's no point to limit them

      • MKBHD on 13/01/2023 - 13:03

        I must have been in coma this past year. What changed? Is it because of the decoupling? How do ether transactions get verified now then?

        • astevens on 13/01/2023 - 13:05
          +10

          You mean the merge?
          Yeah, Eth went to PoS (some might argue it was always a PoS though…) instead of PoW (not prisoner of war), so no more GPU mining in the old ways

          • MKBHD on 13/01/2023 - 13:08

            @astevens: Understood. Thanks for the clarification. I should probably sell my Non-LHR 3070 then and get this. I don't know why I was clinging on to it even though I was not doing any mining lol

            • [Deactivated] on 13/01/2023 - 13:11
              +4

              @MKBHD: If you sold that 12 months ago you would have got $1800 for it now around $450-500

            • astevens on 13/01/2023 - 13:52

              @MKBHD: Honestly, it's not worth anything particularly special these days, since Non-LHR vs LHR means absolutely nothing now.
              Upgrade if you want, but you're definitely not going to get the premium you would've got previously.

            • xyron on 13/01/2023 - 14:33
              +2

              @MKBHD: non-LHR cards arent worth anything over their LHR counterparts for various reasons (including LHR cards were unlocked some months ago before the merge). you'd be better off deploying it into a rig and doing some mad gaming, than selling it at this point.

              • MKBHD on 13/01/2023 - 14:36
                +3

                @xyron: based on the comments, I might just keep it and upgrade in the next iteration, skip this one entirely.

                • xyron on 13/01/2023 - 14:40
                  +1

                  @MKBHD: Unless you are gaming at 4k 120hz or 1440p 144hz or above, the 3070 is a fine card and will play everything you throw at it

                  • yoba on 13/01/2023 - 16:21

                    @xyron: cough cough, Tarkov…

        • cc23 on 13/01/2023 - 13:10
          +1

          Change from proof of work to proof of stake.

          • zCrimson on 13/01/2023 - 22:08

            @cc23: I want proof it existent even if I turn the power off.

  • dqtl74 on 13/01/2023 - 13:10
    +7

    10 units, good luck to those who want one…

    • botchie on 13/01/2023 - 13:29
      +21

      You mean those dumb enough to buy one , yeah

    • ChillBro on 13/01/2023 - 15:40
      +1

      Exactly. Despite the negative sentiment here, it’ll probably sell out in a minute.

      • qtvinsta on 13/01/2023 - 18:18
        +2

        Seconds even

  • alz on 13/01/2023 - 13:13

    Lost track after moving to AMD with the RX6600XT that cost me $900 bux

    What is the RTX4070 sweet spot these days

    • scud70 on 13/01/2023 - 13:30
      +2

      You mean price? It just came out and I suggest you have a look at reviews out there as there are differing opinions on its value… On paper this card would have been a 4060/4060ti based on die size etc in previous gens, but it's also priced $400-500 more than its predecessor…

      Performance wise it's in the 3090-3090ti area so based on that and price of 3090s it's on par… But much better performance per watt

    • JerraJones on 13/01/2023 - 16:38

      There is no 4070 yet.

  • XCelR8 on 13/01/2023 - 13:19
    +2

    You can get the 6950XT from Newegg for $1200. Might be worth it as a bargain or forum post just to let people know.

    • Pittyh on 13/01/2023 - 15:09

      Newegg? sell to Au? import tax?

      • ausmisc on 13/01/2023 - 20:30
        +1

        Yes that price includes GST. And shipping is free if you live in a metro area I think.

        https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/p/pl?d=6950+xt

        • Pittyh on 13/01/2023 - 21:03
          +1

          Thanks I was looking for a 4090, seems the prices are all out of whack on newegg, lol $5045 for a gigabyte gaming 4090…

  • AussieDeals on 13/01/2023 - 13:26
    +32

    Do you see this stuff sitting on shelves, in stock continuously since launch, not selling like they'd hoped? This is despite a few individuals in the minority seemingly pushing the $1479 or $1399 prices as the right kinda price in past posts (by comparing it to stupid crypto craze prices which are now utterly irrelevant, ignoring the fact that 3090s with similar performance and 24GB of expensive VRAM were being cleared out for identical prices of $1400 last year).

    Are the fanatics happy that completely new generation brings 70 tier cards (cut down and with die sizes similar to 60 tier cards of previous generations) retailing at a point that does not move the performance/$ ratio at all? Are they nVidia shareholders, employees, or just hoping a GPU they've already bought won't decrease in price?

    From the comments of past deals it appears that many are thankfully not ok with this. Can only hope that this continues to reflect in low GPU sales volumes until prices come down to something that gives a good boost in performance/$.

    Market forces will ultimately decide, not Jensen nor fanatics that blindly defend nVidia/AMD/Intel

    • Yuri Lowell on 13/01/2023 - 13:30
      +9

      Yup, I'd wait. There are no market pressures driving up prices except AMD/Nvidia greed and once more mid-range cards arrive, we should see prices go lower.

      • qtvinsta on 13/01/2023 - 18:20
        +1

        Price will only move down if the demand falls relative to supply

    • botchie on 13/01/2023 - 13:33
      +9

      Just read the posts man, plenty of 🐒 happy to pay this as price make sense to them , they just don't get it

    • ItsMeAgro on 13/01/2023 - 15:32
      +5

      I keep repeating in every post:

      Nvidia are greedy, not stupid.

      They saw people pay 2 to 3 grand for a GPU to scalpers during the crisis.

      Of course they will try to sell to these idiots directly, and milk them for as long as they can.

      But they'll have to reduce prices (and release 4060/4050/etc) once they run out of idiots.

      Otherwise they lose 95% of their market.

      HODL.

      This very early price reduction for the (so-called) 4070 ti is just the start.

    • Yuri Lowell on 13/01/2023 - 13:31
      +16

      There is no market dictating these prices though, only Nvidia and AMD being greedy. Crypto mining is dead, the 2nd hand market is saturated with last gen cards, people are not buying cards below the 4090. Something will give sooner or later.

    • scud70 on 13/01/2023 - 13:31
      +4

      But the prices for previous gen are still inflated to make this look reasonable… 🙂

    • botchie on 13/01/2023 - 13:32
      +11

      No it's not and this stupid way of thinking is why NVIDIA gets away with it .

    • nitro2496 on 13/01/2023 - 14:20
      +1

      Except that the 3090ti was already an overpriced halo product and with a much larger die size than this 70ti, making this price hard to justify for such a small die

    • Mister Popo on 13/01/2023 - 15:52
      +3

      A lot of people misunderstanding my comment. In the current market, this is a reasonable price. I never said the market is reasonable. You can say that there isnt a market dictating this price, but there is. The manufacturers and retailers set a price, and a number of consumers will buy it - they may not be the commenters here, but they are out there and they are contributing to the current state of the market. If there was no market for GPUs at this price, then this GPU simply wouldnt be this price.
      And why does die size matter. Its like comparing clock frequency between different architectures - not relevant vs absolute level of performance.

      Yikes.

      • botchie on 13/01/2023 - 16:15

        Well again ,no , it's not a reasonable price in the current market, that's why the sales are sluggish and price is coming down , it's only just out now , imagine in 6-12 months .
        You also have to look at the market conditions ahead , potential recessions , inflation , war. It's a silly time to try and be greedy , ppl just don't have the same disposable cash reserves they had few years ago

        • Mister Popo on 13/01/2023 - 16:39

          Not trying to argue, and we will probably disagree here, but if there is no GPU of same/similar performance at a better price currently, then this is the reasonable price in the current market. I wont disagree that the future markets will be more favourable for consumers.

      • SrMoure on 17/01/2023 - 22:41

        market is always reasonable, we might not like it but the idea is to sell the products at the price consumers will pay for them. If the prices are high is because people are paying them. There's no profit for businesses when they cannot sell their products.
        It seems with the new models people are not willing to pay the advertised price and therefore prices are going down. There's supply, demand and a price that connects both.

        I need a new nvidia, my problem is the size more than the price. I cannot fit them in my case unless are < 29cm

  • Phreebee on 13/01/2023 - 13:47
    +3

    Price aside, it's good to see nVidia has finally stopped skimping on VRAM for mid-tier cards. They had been using only 8GB VRAM on all the mid tier cards since the GTX 1070 released back in 2016 up to the RTX 3070Ti launched in mid 2021.

    • Dsiee on 13/01/2023 - 14:49
      +1

      I would say this is still skimping on vram.

  • haemorrhoid on 13/01/2023 - 13:49
    +11

    Talk about generational pricing plus inflation, exchange rate and other factors (no doubt) but back in the day I bought a new 1070Ti around release late late 2017 for AUD 650. So at AUD1300 this is the cheapest I'm seen and the price has effectively doubled. Pity my wages haven't.

    • Jaduqimon on 13/01/2023 - 14:04
      -8

      but the 3070ti is more than twice as fast as 1070ti.

      • JerraJones on 13/01/2023 - 16:40
        +5

        With that logic we should've already been paying 10k for a 4080 since it's 10x faster than a 680.

        The first dual core cpus also launched at 1000. We should be paying about 20,000 for dual core cpus now!

        • Jaduqimon on 13/01/2023 - 16:55
          -7

          yeh thats true but tech lasts way longer now than before. in 5years time the 4090 will still be respectable relative to the games available at that time. back then the stuff u paid 1k for is scrap after 5 years.

  • tids2k on 13/01/2023 - 14:10
    +1

    there is some 7900 xtx stock available on PCCG if anyone interested.

    • qtvinsta on 13/01/2023 - 18:23
      +1

      Would be if 1299

  • Bid Sniper on 13/01/2023 - 14:14
    +6

    HODL to your wallets

  • MiniMyna on 13/01/2023 - 14:14

    Thanks OP. Hoping that those who want one can get one. Feels like they'll probably get scalped though.

    • nitro2496 on 13/01/2023 - 14:24
      +3

      Scalping a gpu no1 wants, good one

    • AussieDeals on 13/01/2023 - 14:28

      What kind of dodgy desperado is going to put in the effort to scalp this to resell when there is a $100 margin between the price here and what you can easily get it for at Umart right now? https://www.umart.com.au/product/inno3d-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-…

      • botchie on 13/01/2023 - 14:47
        +1

        Scalp and re sell for $1250

    • AussieDeals on 13/01/2023 - 19:41

      Now a just $37 margin (when accounting for metro delivery) between this 'limited' deal and jw with stock ready to ship: https://www.jw.com.au/inno3d-rtx-4070-ti-707363

      Nobody is stupid enough to scalp this unless they have a gullible person living under a rock (i.e. no access to the internet) lined up to sell to.

      I think the neg voter is unhappy that their potential scalping plan has been outed as frankly moronic and/or the 4070 Ti isn't selling like hotcakes at its terrible $1479 RRP leading to quick drops already

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