Not a historical low like black friday, but still a good deal for 7000mb/s speeds in 2TB form.
Also eligible for "Buy 2, save 5%".
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I believe they moved from MLC to TLC (can’t remember exactly technology name) which allows them to have more capacity while sacrificing the lifespan.
Yeah, that's exactly right. I think they ran into a hard limit of MLC drives capping out at 1TB or something like that. Don't quote me but I recall hearing/seeing that somewhere.
They also changed the controller chip, but kept the model number the same.
Hrm I paid $219 for a 980 Pro 1TB from umart less than a year ago. Honestly thought it was closer to $120ish
It was my first jump from spinny disks to solid state disks and I can't believe how long I held off. This is so much better, and is so tiny and out of the way. Highly recommend getting any sort of Nvme drive, though the 980 pros might be overkill.
Just an FYI for anyone who is thinking of getting this for use in a PS5. I strongly recommend that you insert it into a desktop PC (or laptop if it has it) M.2 nVMe port (can't be done via a USB adapter as Magician won't recognise the drive) and install the Samsung Magician software so that the drive gets the latest firmware applied to it. I know when I got mine mid last year, after doing that, it significantly improved the read/write speeds on it (at least from what the PS5 saw during the formatting/setting up of the drive).
Still waiting for 4TB in similar price range, maybe 12 to 18 months.
Getting hard though with the PS5 games.
Do you also have PS4 games installed on your local storage. Move maybe for now is get a USB external enclosure and get another SSD just for any/all PS4 games you use. Save the internal storage for only PS5 games? Not sure if you're already doing that but yeah, figured I'd mention.
Already got all the PS4 stuff on an external 1TB SSD :(
600GB for the PS5 isn't enough, I figure 4TB will last the life of the console.
@hamwhisperer: Ahh yeah, I get you. Completely agree that 600GB isn't enough. I did a 2TB upgrade and figured that would be the most amount of additional money I was going to spend on that. I ended up dumping all of my PS4 & PS5 games on the internal storage and I still have about a TB free haha.
I am on the 2tb I have filled it already and the internal drive with 80 games. So yes I know you paid the 4tb ssd could be great.
It's best to upgrade the firmware before putting in PS5 but it is not a huge deal if you don't.
In actual game play, you won't notice any major difference.
Yeah, I get what you're saying but why would you realistically leave any potential performance on the table?
Because that benchmark test is pretty basic and doesn't actually reflect real life usage. Besides, there is only so much Samsung can do with the controller used. If you really care about that initial test figure so much, this is not the SSD you should get, even after the firmware patch, it is still not top the chart.
The firmware merely figures out what Sony does in that PS5 initial SSD test and manages it better (or to be blunt, cheat better). It's more that we cannot resist seeing that figure being lower than expected. So far, high end PCIe gen 4 SSDs are overkill for PS5. The reason is developers won't code expecting SSDs are at certain top notch speed (because let's face it, no matter how fast the SSD is, it is nowhere near as good as RAM).
The reason is developers won't code expecting SSDs are at certain top notch speed (because let's face it, no matter how fast the SSD is, it is nowhere near as good as RAM).
That felt like a non-sequitur at the end. Maybe try this instead:
The reason is developers won't code expecting SSDs are at certain top notch speed (because most users won't have installed a top-end SSD in their system, so developers will target the minimum speeds instead)
@Zorlin: No, had Sony released a game that proves slower SSDs won't work, people would stop buying those. Sony had said, should the NVMe SSD somehow is too slow, user can elect to use the internal SSD for those games. That's Sony's approach. If you elect to buy a slower SSD that's below specs, then that's the risk you need to take.
I do coding and I have MBP 16 inch with a supposedly fast PCIe gen 4 x4 SSD. When the real physical memory runs out and the machine runs SSD/virtual memory, it is painfully obvious slow. There is no way I would waste time spending heaps of time to work around the issue. I rather ensure a quick / fast load to memory. That's why hardware decompression on the GPU is important. Gaming is not just fast sequential loading with high queue depth. SSD latency is 1000X slower than memory. Otherwise, let's just all get 4GB RAM machines and consoles.
Why do you think you cannot feel much difference with a PCIe gen 4 x4 SSD when gaming compared to even just a SATA SSD? In terms of priority, high fps is more important. Why would a dev not use the much faster graphics RAM or physical RAM and waste so much time on SSD?
To piggyback off this, you don't need to install Magician to update the firmware.
wait legit you don't? I honestly thought you only could do it via Magician. What's the other option?
@zonfierre: Ahh right there we go then, I didn't know it was an independent download as well. Cheers for that!
Thanks! Was looking for an SSD for my new computer.
why flash cards? Is there something more useful you could add to get 5% off?
Just a cheap item that nets a discount that was linked in a previous deal. Could be anything else from the eligible items, and sure it's better if it's something useful.
If building a new system, memory could be useful
I'm thinking to combine with this one
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B081XWLQKS/ref=ox_sc_ac…
There's fairly regular deals at about this price now. Similar for the WD 850X
im using an matx from 5 years ago, it has a m2 storage slot but doesnt go into much detail on what it supports. im guessing its only going to support this for pcie3 and i wont be utilising the storage to its full speed?
CPU and motherboard information is more important to determine the m.2 slot. 5 years ago, most likely PCIe gen 3 x4.
If it is PCIe gen 3 x4, the most cost effective 2TB SSD is SN570 (but wait till it is back to ~$185). The only excuse for getting this is if you will be filling up to 1.8TB in one go repeatedly and you must get that done within 45 minutes or less (assuming all your files are large video files or big game installs).
thanks! appreciate the rec
Getting warranty out of Samsung Australia is already hard enough and a massive pain, not sure how you're going to go with international stock. Issues soon after buying I'm sure Amazon will help you but a year or two down the track you might have to rely on Samsung.
Samsung AU's warranty is okay (in the past, Samsung AU RMA department eases the pain a bit by upgrading the SSD, though in this case, I seriously doubt they will upgrade it to 4TB… there is a small chance they might provide 990 Pro as a replacement). However, you do need to send the SSD to them. Also, generally, you don't want an SSD to fail. PS5 isn't exactly that fun to open.
International warranty…. dunno.. no experience yet.
I'd have that concern normally, but wouldn't be AS worried with a SSD Drive compared to say something with moving parts.
Never had one of these die on me, and packaging wouldn't be a huge concern either for shipping.
Though generally I buy my SSDs with Samsung Cashback promos locally anyway.
You are lucky. I had 5 SSDs which died. 1 of them was a Samsung (but Samsung RMA team gave me a replacement that was 2X the size and the latest SATA model at the time). Another one used Samsung NAND chip (but not Samsung brand), bought the mini PC from Amazon USA, ended up tossing the SSD into the bin). 2 of them got full refund from local retailers. Another toss into a bin.
Must be, or there's an inbetween for us.
My first SSD was still running fine when I sold it 10 plus years later, everyday OS drive, gave to parents, around 32gb from memory. Can't recall the brand. Wasn't too many back than with the initial crop.
Have stuck with Samsung since for both sata and NVME.
@scuderiarmani: Well, it is model dependent. I picked Samsung's first TLC SATA SSD (Samsung 840). That was a mistake. Another 2 of them, before I purchased, I knew they had high failure rate (but they were dirt cheap at the time). However, the store I bought one of them from recommended I don't ask for a replacement, instead let them organise a full refund because those are all bound to fail. The other one, I wasn't expecting to fail, but I guess it was okay (no important data on it) and it failed about 4 months before the 5 years warranty is up so it was kinda good to get a full refund.
I also find SSDs tend to have a higher chance to die if you don't use them often.
My Samsung SSD died in less than 2 years
Crucial p5 plus on Amazon US is a better deal I think. I got two of those
thanks very much, just bought 1, although I don't really need it anyway. :)
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If throwing this into a PS5 does it need a heatsink?
All drives in a PS5 require one.
Sony says yes. All the reviews showed it isn't needed (because with PS's relatively small size SSD, you are not going to reach thermal throttle state when copying games to your NVMe SSD). Even if you tried to copy the data between internal SSD and the NVMe SSD multiple times intentionally, Sony PS5's internal SSD's write speed is slow it gives your NVMe SSD plenty of time to cool down.
However, since Sony says you need one, you might as well get one.
Yes, you can either use Jonsbo or one of those Jeyi warship ones.
What enclosure do you recommend if using it as external hard drive ?
My favourite enclosure is still the Asus ROG Arion. So easy to install and has thermal pads to help heat transfer. The enclosure is very tough (metal), with a rubber bumper over the edges. Not cheap (bought mine during eBay's 20% sales), but I also have cheaper $20 enclosures which I don't really like to use anymore as the drive gets really really hot. Also note that if you use any non-Thunderbolt enclosure, the drive is limited to 1000 MB/s read speeds. So you might as well get a PCIe Gen 3 m.2 drive instead for use in an enclosure.
With this, it is best to use Thunderbolt enclosure and even that is PCIe gen 3 x4.
If you don't have Thunderbolt or USB 4 on your device, then generally, it is an overkill to get this SSD and put it in an enclosure (unless this amount is simply loose change for you).
A good Thunderbolt enclosure you can recommend?
I can tell you NOT to buy Sabrent. Speeds are abysmal for a thunderbolt enclosure. (I think it’s an old controller + only 2 lanes)
@Larsson: Thanks for the heads up. Didn’t look at Sabrent brand at all as I am a firm believer of ‘you get what you pay for’. With SSDs, I usually only buy Samsung. I am looking for a good quality enclosure and don’t mind if it is expensive.
@FrugalNotStingy: yeah I was talking about TB3 enclosures, Sabrent uses an old and useless chip JHL6240. Long story short, Sabrent Thunderbolt 3 enclosure is barely as good as most USB3.2s. Don't buy that enclosure.
@Larsson: I have been looking for a TB3 enclosure for a long time and don’t know what to get. Those that provide fast speed either break easily or prone to overheat. The cheap ones are slow.
I got this for my HP Victus laptop. Works well though at Gen3 speeds. Probably draws less amps at Gen3 anyway, which is what you want for a laptop.
They don't draw that much to begin with
Now $284.74. A saving of $3.18! It all adds up :-).
As soon as these are under $200, I'll buy a few.
Yep, holding firm
Just a heads up - the 980 Pro 2gb has a habit of bricking itself if you don't update the firmware: https://www.pugetsystems.com/support/guides/critical-samsung…
Amazing how much the price has gone down. I paid more for a Samsung 970 Pro NVMe 512GB SSD back i think it was in 2019. And this here is four times the size capacity and faster.