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Normcore 58.5mm Espresso Coffee Tamper V4 - Spring Loaded w/ Stainless Steel Base $67.49 Delivered @ Normcore Amazon AU

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For those who bought the Breville dual boiler recently this tamper will be great for consistent tamping.

This V4 tamper has further improved on the central shaft design, also the interchangeable springs (15lb/ 25lb/ 30lb) are now applicable to the central shaft which provides pressure directly to the coffee grounds.

Why NORMCORE Spring-loaded Tamper?

Level Tamping - The ingenious design of leveling plate ensures your tamping level every time by resting on top of the filter basket as you press down on ground coffee.

Consistent Pressure - The amount of pressure you apply is simply controlled by a pre-calibrated spring inside the tamper itself. Moreover, it comes with 3 interchangeable springs to suit your preference.

Depth - Press and turn clockwise at the same time when tamping to create the best level result.

This is the perfect tamper for both aspiring home baristas and busy cafes.

The set includes:

1 - Spring Loaded Tamper

1 - Coffee Tamper Stand

1 - 30lb Spring

1 - 25lb Spring(Already installed )

1 - 15lb Spring

Note: shenzhenshifanpuguizhendianzishangwuyouxiangongsi is the Normcore Store

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  • +3

    Broken link, until mod/OP fixes - can be found below

    https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0BCJPXCD6

  • +2

    I bought one of these directly from normcore. It's great

    • How much did you pay?

      • +1

        I paid $50usd. Wish i bought from amazon now to use my price protection

        • +1

          Tried to use amazon price protection on this and was told no longer in their policies. Interesting as I can still return the product and order at the new price.

          • +1

            @hbargain: I was also told a couple of months back that price protection no longer applies for a product that wasn't even shipped yet.

      • I paid $69.99 Jun 2022 for a flat base

  • +3

    Is it worth the extra dollars for a Pusee tamper? https://www.amazon.com.au/PUSEE-53mm-Calibrated-Accessories-…

    • +59

      I don't think many here has ever tried Pusee.

    • who you calling a pusee?

    • +14

      Tamp that pusee

      • +6

        30 pounds sounds about right

      • 🐈

      • Looks more like a butt plug but yeh
        (use as both.. Adds flavour)

    • My God that is such an unfortunate name. Is this a case of Chinese brands putting letters together and hoping it sounds good? (e.g. gooloo) or is it an actual established brand with decades of reputation?

      • +1

        Most of these stores are rebranded mass produced items from ali express.

        Some amazon shops are direct translations, like Shenzhenshi Keruipeng Dianzi Keji Youxian Gongsi Store.

    • -5

      No, Normcore is the gold standard for a reason.

    • +2

      Dual boiler basket is 58.5mm, so the pusee needs to be 0.5mm bigger to fit perfectly snug.

      • +3

        Gotta love a snug Pusee

    • +15

      Very good review on Amazon

      First off, I've never paid for a Pusee before but I'm so glad I did and will likely never look back. This Pusee feels right at home in my hand. As for the quality, this Pusee is top notch and made take a beating! In my opinion, don't cheap out and buy a used one. You don't know where that Pusee has been. Pay an few extra dollars and get a freshy fresh Pusee, you won't regret it.

    • pusee

      …is this seriously the brand name HAHAHAHA - definitely up there with greats such as dikilong

  • +2

    Great tamper. Have one and couldn't be happier with it.

  • +7

    This is the ripple base version as opposed the smooth base. Is this James Hoffman approved?

    • +2

      The BMX champion?

      • +6

        Tail Whip to Double Espresso

      • +1

        James is Matt's 3rd cousins, work mates, uncles, neighbours friend.

        Matt invented the flair, whilst James rips a shots on the Flair 58!

    • +1

      I legit want to know the answer on ripple vs smooth. My guess is it makes zero difference.

      • +6

        I wouldn't recommend ripple based tampers, I also dont think spring loaded ones are worth while either. Ripple bases are just adding places where the coffee bed is more likely to channel. Spring mechanisms are over-engineering for a problem that doesnt need to be fixed, when tamping you should be just pressing down until the coffee bed is compressed as much as possible.
        The idea of tamping too hard is a myth, once coffee grinds are completely compressed and all air pockets removed, no matter how hard you press you wont be able to affect the grind size/flow rate by tamping harder. Problems do occur however if you don't tamp hard enough and you have an uneven coffee bed that will cause channeling.
        I recently got a barista hustle tamper that I highly recommend, its $78, so a little more expensive, but is precisely sized for VST/other precision baskets, has a replaceable tamping surface in case it is dropped/damaged, and is really nicely machined. Super good value for money imo

        • +3

          I’m going to add in my two cents here.
          I largely agree with your comments, except to say that:

          • Ripple base vs non ripple base - there is probably no difference. It would be difficult to empirically measure any differences but assuming you are brewing at 9-bars - you probably have a lot more to worry about in puck prep compared to a few 1-2mm deep ripples on the surface. I don’t think it’ll make a difference and it looks pretty if that’s what you want.

          • I think you’re accurate to say the main issue is not tamping hard enough. That’s because that will definitely lead to channeling / inconsistency, and is a more likely error, as it is much easier to not tamp hard enough (cf tamp too hard).
            In my view, it is possible, but very difficult, to tamp too hard. Otherwise, techniques such as “nutating” wouldn’t be possible. But it is difficult to tamp too hard because there is a huge buffer where there won’t be any significant difference between tamping hard enough, and tamping too hard. As a rule of thumb, a good place to start is tamping hard enough so that a significant amount more pressure will not result in any sizeable increase in puck density. Then backing off to the pressure required to achieve that puck density.

          • I don’t think this tamp is over engineered, simply because I wouldn’t expect it to break. then there are no concerns with the amount of engineering. The consistency it provides, as well as the fact that every tamp will be perfectly level should help a lot of coffee novices achieve consistency in this part of the process, and a good understanding of how hard is hard enough.

        • -3

          Lol what? If I tamp too hard the water won't even get through

          • @Stinger au: that's not really true, there's a maximum amount of tamp you can get, no matter how hard you push. If your grind is fine enough (but not overly fine), it will get through.

          • +1

            @Stinger au: More likely you're grinding too fine then, when the water is actually getting through you probably didn't tamp hard enough.

          • @Stinger au: That might be your experience at home, but would suggest that you're actually grinding too fine. This leads to fines clogging the filter as they expand. Correctly ground coffee will be impossible to tamp too hard.

        • That all makes sense to me, the only advantage to the spring loaded would be you are not over exerting yourself for no reason, because you stop putting pressure when you hear the click.

      • +2

        I have this tamper with the ripple base. No noticable difference between it and the smooth base, however I do see value in the unit as it has built in leveling which means you will tamp perfectly flat every time without effort, something which isn't available on a standard tamper.

        • Built in levelling sounds handy, my wife always gets it super crooked hahah.

      • +1

        Most people in the community believes it makes 0 difference.
        Maybe you'll get more engagement with youtube shorts when you use a ripple base?

        I wouldn't go for a ripple base personally since if believe it wouldn't improve my shot consistency and that it could possibly even negatively influence it. I would much rather forgo the aesthetic benefits it adds to my puck.

  • +4

    Flat base version is a few dollars more for the 53.3mm version (for the smaller Breville machines like the Bambino).

    https://www.amazon.com.au/Normcore-V4-Coffee-Tamper-53-3mm/d…

    • The 53.3mm ripple version is same price here

    • +11

      talk is cheap , link please

    • I've bought a few from Alie, none of them are 58.5mm as they claim to be.

  • +3

    Sold by: shenzhenshifanpuguizhendianzishangwuyouxiangongsi

    Careful folks

    • +4

      Having bought from them before, this is actually Normcore. I had an issue with an item purchased from Amazon via this same seller, when I emailed Normcore USA they processed an Amazon refund for me immediately.

      • Interesting. They need to fix that.

      • +1

        Agreed. This is normcore’s Amazon store here.

        Once I purchased from normcore directly and it shipped from Amazon :)

    • -3

      hmmmm, made out of lead?

    • My invoice shows the same seller lol so it's all good

    • I'm pretty sure this is normcore, if you search and translate shenzhenshifanpuguizhendianzishangwuyouxiangongsi:
      https://www.ltddir.com/companies/hongkong-normcore-e-commerc…

  • +1

    What is the purpose of the rippled base? At first thought I would have assumed this could lead to a slightly more uneven extraction vs a flat base tamper.

    • +1

      In theory can slightly increase the surface area but I have not seen any noticeable difference in practice. I would not buy one again.

  • What a seller name. Is this original?

    shenzhenshifanpuguizhendianzishangwuyouxiangongsi

    • -4

      Just a typical China-based sellers dumping their items on Amazon. Same like ebay.

  • I have the flat version, would the ripple one makes my coffee better or is this just for some insta-worthy photo?

    • insta worthy.

      i taste no difference

  • +7

    Having used ripple base before I would not go back to one again, too much hassle to clean.

    • How does it cause cleaning issues? Coffee sticking onto the tamper? Good to know.

      • Yes, stuck in the gap between the ripples. with flat base its much easier to wipe off with a cloth.

  • +1

    Will this work with a 20g VST basket? I would think so however the recommended tamper size is 58.4mm.

    • +1

      It would. I'm using it with 18g VST

      • Great, thanks

        • Works with either, I've got both

  • is the 53.3mm one also V4?

    • +1

      from the description it says V4, not in the title anyways.

  • I wish they would change the version names more significantly. I’ve lost track which version I have! Possibly V3…

    Anyone had V3 and V4 and notice a tangible change in brew?

    EDIT: Found last invoice. I’m already rocking the V4! 🤦‍♂️ Not worth another purchase for the ripple base alone and output difference would be incremental at best.

  • +1

    Thought tamping is not as critical as distribution, and being level is more important than force applied?

    Something like this might be more practical (but it is not a prefect fit): https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B082MKVYFV

    • +2

      They all play a part. Poor distribution won’t be fixed by a $200 tamper.

      • Five Senses coffee says that 5-degrees off level can make a big difference.

      • John Buckman from Decent Espresso (their machines have sensors everywhere) says their tests show anything over 10-pounds (4.5kg) pressure on the tamper doesn’t make a difference.

      • He also says those distributors like the one you linked can lead to very uneven compaction. I have that one but only use the flat tamping side.

      I also have the Normcore in the OP. I do find it wobbles a little, but it does get pretty close to being aligned with the basket. The tolerances between the sleeve and the shaft could be better.

      • That's kind of my point.

        If you have grounded fresh beans using a decent grinder, maintained a consistent recipe, evenly distributed the grounds to prevent channelling, then it shouldn't matter if you use a plastic or metal tamper, with 10 pounds or 30 pounds of force. As long as you compact the puck while keeping the surface level, a fancy spring loaded tamper is not going to improve the extract any more than a regular tamper.

        • +1

          You are right. If you already have a decent grinder and good technique….and you haven’t bought your coffee beans at Woolies or Coles, all these additional tools won’t give you better coffee.

          My grinder retails for more than $800 but it doesn’t give me coffee that is 3 times better than the Breville Smart Grinder Pro.

    • +1

      I've got one of those and with deeper baskets its a pain because it doesn't extend far enough due to the way its designed to screw into the tamper side. Wouldn't recommend it, better off to WDT imho.

      • Agreed with this, and not the best tool because it doesn't extend far enough

  • +7

    Coffee tampers are scarily expensive, even on sale. I will continue living in the probably-vain hope of one day finding one in an Op Shop for $2

    • +9

      This website sometimes amazes me, same guys that nit pick $2 on a grocery deal, go and pay $1000+ for a coffee grinder.

      • +2

        Completely with you on this. A lot of faulty logic on this site!

      • Hey! I only paid $600 for my grinder thankyou… :p
        You could look at getting a nesouza tamper for half the price, but it doesn't have the Normcore name so you're missing out on internet/reputation points. https://www.amazon.com.au/NEOUZA-Tamper-Anti-Stick-Self-Leve…
        And maybe a 2% incremental gain in your coffee? :p

        • +1

          Paid $2 for my grinder at the Op Shop but had to cough up an entire $8 for my Saeco Expresso Machine
          Op Shops are graveyards for this kind of gear. People buy it because they think they'll save money on going out for coffee, but quickly discover they were really going out for the crac

          • @Marieah: I still go out for my $6 coffee every now and then, but its far less than the once a day it was when I had a pod machine. I figure with milk and beans a coffee at home sets me back $2 compared to $6 at the shop, so I've only got to go a year without going down to the coffee shop to break even! :p WHAT A BARGAIN. Although thats increased my cost from $1 a pod to $2 an espresso, so maybe I'm just kidding myself that I'll ever break even.

            On the up side, it's a good hobby for my ADHD to hyperfocus on.

    • +3

      I use the base of an old 54mm vitamin bottle for my BES 870. Works perfect.

  • For those looking to get better taste (extraction) you want a tamp that fits as close to the edge of your basket as possible. Changing over to VST or IMS baskets will also help…. But the single biggest difference I've noticed in taste profile improvement is a $16 WDT tool from Amazon and I've used it across Breville bes920+smart grinder all the way up to a LM GS3 + robur e/mignon Libra

    • Which WDT tool did you go with?

      • +1

        The cheapest one on Amazon with fast delivery…a cork with accupuncture needles will do the same thing

        • I would recommend just spending $15 on a cheap WDT. They don't have overly sharp ends. I've poked myself with one and it didn't break skin or particularly hurt.

          You will eventually get poked when you pick it up and one with acupunture needles will hurt.

    • I hadn't heard of the WDT tool so I watched this video where the guy did a blind taste test. He preferred the shot without the tool which is pretty funny when the video is on the page selling the tool. I do want to get a dosing cup now though :)

    • which one did you get out of interest? I purchased a $10 WDT from AliExpress, and I agree that was probably the single biggest improvement from the accessories I've used.

    • Which WDT tool did you get?

    • +1

      Why buy a $16 WDT when you can buy a $400 3D printer and make your own! Sure, you still have to pay for filament and acupuncture needles, but THINK OF THE SAVINGS.

      :p

    • Not convinced on the needle tool. My thoughts are that you are creating channels when pulling the needles out.

      The Swiss vitamin containers are the ducks guts. They happen to be almost 54mm exactly. Just file the top and bottom lips off so they are flat.

      Zero on scales, add 18g of beans.
      Chuck in grinder, then place underneath as a dosing cup.

      Invert into portafilter. No opportunity for clumps/ channels.

      Turn upside down and use as a tamp. It only just fits..so it has to be dead level to go in.

      • The needles are breaking up the clumps and fluffing the grinds, that way when you tamp you aren't getting channelling. Your theory about grinding is fine…. Providing your grinder doesn't have any retention and your grinder doesn't clump, there's only a handful of grinders I know that are capable of both of these and I gotta say if you're using one of those you wouldn't be using a 54mm plastic container as a tamp.

        • Yeah, i get the concept. But the irony is, the moment you pull out the needles..they will leave small cylindrical channels, or dragged channels.

          As for grinder clumps. Thats why I grind into the cup first. Place lid on 'cup', solid tap down. Grinds flatten out. Then Invert into basket. Light tamp while spinning back and forth, follwed by a solid tamp. 99% of all that between the ears probably. The final tamp at the end (flush) makes most of the difference.

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