Saw this at Costco marsden park today. 10 Pattie’s per pack.
$4.40/kg
Saw this at Costco marsden park today. 10 Pattie’s per pack.
$4.40/kg
Same everywhere. I checked the ingredients and put it back
🤣
What are the ingredients?
What are the ingredients?
I can't comment on this particular product, but I watched a show on one of the big food factories making this stuff and it was the most processed food you could ever think of. Here what Google tells me:
Water, Soy Protein Concentrate, Sunflower Oil, Coconut Oil, Thickener, Glutamic Acid, Natural Flavours, Cultured Dextrose, Modified Starch, Yeast Extract, Soy Leghemoglobin (genetically modified), Salt, Antioxidant. Soy Protein Isolate, Zinc Gluconate, Niacin, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin
As a rule, I think whole foods are best. Meat, vege, fruit, nuts, stuff that nature makes has to better for you surely?
yeah nature totally doesn't make soy, or sunflower seeds, or coconuts or starch or yeast or salt or…
Also not killing animals is the point. I can assure you people buying this (vegetarians and vegans) are well aware of 'natural' plant-based alternatives. Nobody thinks this product is a salad.
yeah nature totally doesn't make soy, or sunflower seeds, or coconuts or starch or yeast or salt or…
Oh I see you selectively chose some of the ingredients but then ignored all the others others, how cute. You also ignored the part about 'whole foods'. 'Soy protein concentrate' for example is not the same as a soy bean pod straight off the plant. Maybe go watch the video then tell me if you think this is something you want to put into your body: https://youtu.be/6fGEggkj02g?t=150
Also not killing animals is the point
Have you ever been outside the inner city? Spoiler alert, every other species in nature is doing lots of killing. It's actually how nature works.
Oh I see you selectively chose some of the ingredients but then ignored all the others others
Oh I see you selectively chose some of my words but then ignored the 'or …' implying I was talking about more than just those listed. None of those ingredients are frightening or scary and I'd love for you to provide peer reviewed evidence saying that things such as niacin/zinc/etc are bad for you. I'll wait. Don't waste your time or mine replying until you've shown all those ingredients are bad for you other than having names you don't understand.
It's actually how nature works.
Wow you're brain is really working overtime with your arguments. Do you dig a hole, take a dump in it then bury it? You'd be fine with someone else killing your young because 'that's what nature does'? You're a clown.
Also like how you 'selectively chose' to ignore the rest of my original comment too.
Oh I see you selectively chose some of my words but then ignored the 'or …'
I didn't realise that 'or…' was an argument lol, or…
implying I was talking about
Cool. Now learn how explicit and implicit arguments work and why this is important, or…or…
None of those ingredients are frightening or scary
But they are extremely processed, which was my point. It was an explicit point that I made explicitly. See how that works?
I'd love for you to provide peer reviewed evidence saying that
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3309636/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6380172/
"supplements are not only ineffective, but they may be deleterious to health."
Nutrition in processed or artificial form shows either no benefit or in some cases increased rates of cancer.
Don't waste your time or mine replying until you've shown all those ingredients are bad for you other than having names you don't understand.
Lol, so brave, so courageous. Now your turn. Show us the peer reviewed literature that says this stuff is better for you than whole foods. I won't wait because we already know the answer…
You'd be fine with someone else killing your young because 'that's what nature does'?
Lol here's some more straws for you to grasp at…That vegan diet is already eating away at your brain, or…
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3309636/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6380172/
Now show the relevance of those studies with the ingredients, and how 'supplements' have anything to do with ingredients (you know there's iron in a lot of cereal?) and then how the 'may be' wording of the study proves anything you're trying to crap on about?
was an argument lol, or…
It's not an argument, you clown. It's very clear what dotdotdot means…
Cool. Now learn how explicit and implicit arguments work and why this is important, or…or…
You're a clown.
iTs PrOcEsSeD
Not an argument. Prove that 'processed' is a bad thing. Do you even know what it means or do you just like using 'scary' buzzwords?
Lol, so brave, so courageous
Hey clown, I said don't waste your time or my time replying until you did what I said. You still haven't done it.
Show us the peer reviewed literature that says this stuff is better for you than whole foods.
Your reading comprehension is clown-tier (have I mentioned you're a clown?). Read the rest of my original post, you clown.
That vegan diet is already eating away at your brain, or…
I'm not a vegan, you clown.
Your arguments, if we can be kind enough to consider them that, are beyond pathetic. You don't understand nutrition, or plain english, or medical studies.
Now show the relevance of those studies with the ingredients
I just did. I can't help you if you can't read. Here's a dictionary to help you out: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/suppleme…
Artificial meat is 100% made from supplements. None of it is whole food. The video I linked to shows this.
It's not an argument, you clown.
"When the debate is lost, slander is the weapon of the loser" -Socrates
Thanks for playing…
The video I linked to shows this.
Hi Bozo, you didn't post a video.
Artificial meat is 100% made from supplements
Dude seriously just stop embarrassing yourself.
wHeN tHe DeBaTe Is LoSt
You lost before you even replied the first time.
Your links don't say what you think they say, you completely ignored half of my original comment (which you still pretend doesn't exist). You still haven't said anything about why the ingredients are harmful, and then you threw out some random bs about me being a vegan which I'm not that you then conveniently ignored.
You're a clown and a waste of my time. Educate yourself.
you didn't post a video.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13663520/redir
What is reading…
"The degree of one’s emotions varies inversely with one’s knowledge of the facts, the less you know the hotter you get" - Bertrand Russell
@1st-Amendment: You're such a clown lol. Your arguments are shit and you don't understand nutrition and you still have no answer for the statement I made right at the start. You still haven't proven any of those ingredients are harmful, nor can you. And yes, too much water will kill you that doesn't prove water is harmful. There is absolutely nothing scary in that video for someone with even the most basic understanding of food and nutrition and not some fear mongering clown (like you).
Just a reminder that you called me a vegan when I'm not so just goes to show the type of shit you talk with zero supporting evidence.
I'm not wasting any more time on you, clown.
Your arguments are shit
And this is what passes for a 'good' argument to you lol…
You still haven't proven any of those ingredients are harmful
Yeah we get it, you can't read, no need to keep proving the point…
in that video
But you said I didn't post a link to a video? 🤣🤣🤣
@1st-Amendment: your arguments are shit. you're a clown.
But you said I didn't post a link to a video?
There was NO video link at the time. You realise you (profanity) up and edited your comment at which point I then viewed it and it doesn't say anything remotely close to what you think it says. You clown.
Yeah we get it, you can't read, no need to keep proving the point…
You're an absolute clown who doesn't know shit about nutrition.
There was NO video link at the time.
This is you demonstrating yet again that you don't know how to read. Thanks yet again for this demonstration.
You replied to the post with the link in it. Imagine being that dumb…
and edited your comment
Lol here have some more straws to grasp…
You can't edit a reply once it's been replied to, which you did days after I posted it. It's all up there, documented with timestamps, just like the peer reviewed studies which you also didn't read lol…
You're an absolute clown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Come back when you finish school kid…
@1st-Amendment: If someone were to call you a (profanity) that’s not an ad hominem you dumb (profanity)
Who said anything about editing after replies. You understand how browsers work right? This website isn’t a live feed. Try looking up what the refresh button does. You’re a dumb clown.
that’s not an ad hominem
Because you say so lol.. What a wonderful world it must be in your head…
You have already demonstrated that you can't read, so 'what you reckon' really carries zero weight here.
Who said anything about editing after replies
You did. Right here:
and edited your comment
You can't edit a comment after a reply, and you had already replied to the comment twice before claiming there was no link. Here: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13670825/redir and here: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13671702/redir, and in your third reply you then claimed I had somehow magically edited it: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13672230/redir
The evidence is all there in black and white, if you know how to read it…
You were in such a huff you bashed your emotional diarrhea on the keyboard before even reading what was written, and then you decided to come back one month later just to demonstrate that you still can't read? That truly is a remarkable level of retard there. Insert canned laughter…
You understand how browsers work right?
Yes. But like everything else, you clearly don't.
Try looking up what the refresh button does
Your reply was after you had already replied two times, two days later.. Do you know how browsers work? Insert more canned laughter…
Imagine coming back after a month just to offer us this shit sandwich.
Come back when you finish school kid…
Sure lots of bad ingredients in good , i get it. yet the twat that made this comment wasn't able to name one.
I believe these are made with Fava beans. I’m sure they will go down well with a nice Chianti
If it's the mushroom ones it's delicious. No like the beet ones.
lol, what beef?
Quite.
I’ll never understand the desire to synthesize a food biproduct to taste as close as possible to a product that the target market didn’t like in the first place…
I'll never understand why you meatcucks care. (Actually, I do, it's called compensation and cognitive dissonance.)
@fantombloo: Don’t get upset.
Just explain how you think the notion of cognitive dissonance can be applied to this situation.
Perhaps you could do it over a nice slab of steak or a few rashers of bacon so you won’t feel so protein-deficient and moody…
@UncleRico: You simultaneously believe it is wrong to rape a pig, and yet you'll pay for them to be tortured in a gas chamber and have their throat slit. Both involve suffering for the purpose of your pleasure. Ergo, you hold two contradictory beliefs at the same time, yet continue to rationalise them.
@swagneto: LOL! That’s one long bow, boy!
I don’t think you actually understand what cognitive dissonance means.
Nor how much I enjoy raping pigs, apparently…
I don’t think you actually understand what cognitive dissonance means.
No, it seems they, like 90% of the others that think they do, don't. (Please look it up people before you throw the term around loosely.) But anyone who has even just watched a few choice Frasier episodes can see your comments keep supporting my original claim. Keep going, knock yourself out.
@UncleRico: Oh, I did assume you didn't enjoy raping pigs. Well, at least you're consistent! Have a gold star ⭐
@swagneto: The irony, that the dude who's intentionally trying to sound all studious, and using the terms and word structure of The Architect in the Matrix. Is the one jacked fully in.
The only thing you're designing is heavy virtue signals.
🤣 Grow a set.
@Rickysupertramp: No idea what you're on about, but it's clear you're experiencing it too hahaha
@fantombloo: Okay, in contrast to the soy hippies who don’t even buy the very same junk that they are out here defending? Sneakily negging and getting nasty about it.
Ever noticed the entire range of these mock meat products always marked down to as much as 70%+ off, even you guys don’t really like this stuff and would rather let this stuff go to landfill.
@Gervais fanboy: Ha!
Go easy - or he’ll come after you and your pig raping ways too!
@Gervais fanboy: I like the stuff. Unfortunately there's a small amount in stores so it gets reduced intermittently. Unlike beef etc where you may see a large number of discounted items across one aisle, you don't get that with non meat products/meat substitutes.
I like the stuff
Cool,
I didn’t say that literally no one ‘likes’ these products. Like with everything, there’s always atleast a few that do. And all the power to you.
Unfortunately there's a small amount in stores so it gets reduced intermittently.
No, that’s not even. No
There’s specific markdown policies for short life and long life products. Depending on how the credit system works with the manufacturers and other factors, supermarkets generate uniform markdown policies for their stores nationwide.
@Gervais fanboy: Yes there is. That's not even something to argue. Compare the size/variety of meat products in the fridge area, to non meat products.
The non meat have ofcourse a much smaller amount of shelf space because it's less popular and there are less options.
Admittedly I can be very literal but when you say "even you guys don't really like the stuff", to me, you did say exactly that everyone doesn't like it. I'm just pointing out that I am 1 person that likes it sometimes, though I refuse to pay the full price for it and only find it intermittently reduced and less so than the meat range.
but when you say "even you guys don't really like the stuff", to me, you did say exactly that everyone doesn't like it
lol, I said ‘you guys’ in the clear context to the Libs here calling and agreeing with calling meateaters - meatcucks and getting soo worked up over one comment from @UncleRico.
You’re just assuming offence when there’s no offence intended from my side.
Btw the true vegan types, i find them to be way more noble and virtuous than I am. Got nothing against them or their buying preferences.
Just have a problem with the kind of people telling other people what/what not to do.
@cookie2: That'll be the extended shelf life of irradiated and highly processed foods, not the supply/demand equation.
You've entirely misunderstood what vegans dislike, I'm not sure how though (maybe you haven't and are just wanting to be needlessly argumentative, this is the internet after all, but just in case). They are against the suffering of animals, not the taste of a food product. They aren't up in arms asking for steaks that taste like lentils, they don't like where animal products come from and the methods used to get them. If steaks grew on trees, they wouldn't be out protesting steak trees.
The idea of a hamburger is nice, the idea of a hamburger that has those great umami flavours without all the animal suffering is nicer. If the two exactly identical products were put before you, with no difference other than one caused immense animal suffering and the other didn't - are you saying you'd pick the one made with animal suffering?
@lulzenberg: Narrow minds find it hard to comprehend.
Speaks volumes for their intelligence.
@Spendmore: He hasn’t even responded to @spendmore’s comment yet and you are already passing your biased judgements.
You have got more hate in your heart than the person you are talking about..
That should ‘speak volumes’ about you.
@Gervais fanboy: I think you are getting confused.
Also no hate in my heart just intelligence in my head.
I'd say some vegetarians like meat flavour and packaging like sausages but chose not to eat meat so these products appeal to them.
It is really not that hard to comprehend…….is it?
@Spendmore: Sorry, what I meant to say was that @UncleRico hasn’t even responded to @lulzenberg’s comment yet.
A comment that is yes very insightful and something that most rational people can agree and respect.
But you need to wait for @UncleRico to respond negatively before you diss him like that. Hell, I’d diss him with you.
No one was bashing vegans/vegetarians here in particular till @afoveht interjected himself in the fashion he/she did. Isn’t it weird that you never cared to question their intelligence?
That’s a common theme here, that ‘some’ vegan types just can’t let other people live. They have almost become an activist class at this point.
I'd say some vegetarians like meat flavour and packaging like sausages but chose not to eat meat so these products appeal to them.
It is really not that hard to comprehend…….is it?
Not hard to understand at all, 99% of the population either respects or don’t even care about that. You are misreading the populous.
@Gervais fanboy: He wont respond he isnt getting a good return from his trolling efforts.
@Spendmore: Maybe, give him the EOD atleast.
If steaks grew on trees, they wouldn't be out protesting steak trees
From the vegans I've met they actually would. The vegan personality type seems to have a need to find things to feel righteous about, so even if you grew steak on trees, they'd find a reason to complain about it. It's like a pathological mental disorder…
Yeah, I actually prefer these to beef and I'm not a vego.
Delicious 😋
Lol what
According to sciencemeetsfood. Org
"the company has a patent for a process to alter the structure and presentation of plant proteins"
Alter means modify, not like adding salt pepper, its the structure of the protein…
You modify the structure of proteins when you boil pasta or fry a steak…
@AustriaBargain: This company is trying to patent boiling water?
Small wonder the world abhors a vegan…
@UncleRico: I get it, some people that are vegans can be full on or extreme sjws but why do you seem to have such a strong dislike? I mean, to dislike a group of people because of a food choice?
@cookie2: lol, read his comment again
He made a little joke and a funny one at that.
@AustriaBargain: Lol exactly, some idiots on here.
margarine has gone through a process to alter oil …. do you eat margarine ?
@garage sale: Mmm… margarine.
Of course, I’d never eat the rancid stuff. But it does come in very handy for my oft-speculated pig-related pastimes…
What do you think your cow, chicken or pig is eating?
Imagine thinking you're not eating genetically modified food as it is 😂
What is it about this stuff that lures out the stupids.
Plants and meats both are and can be genetically modified. This is to improve yield and ensure the plants can survive harsher conditions or produce more fruits/ vegetables and for meat to ensure they produce more yield.
Why is there no such company as Beyond Lentils who can turn a juicy scotch fillet into something that tastes like split peas or Brussel sprouts?
That’s an excellent question. You may have heard the expression that you are what you eat. Revolutionary experiments have been conducted in the hope that Beyond Lentils could be a commercial reality, but the mass spectrometry has confirmed that the flavour profile of lentils is not possible to replicate artificially. I still hold out hope that a breakthrough will be made, but currently all prototypes have resulted in a product that tastes considerably better, much to everyone’s surprise and frustration
I saw it at Costco Casula Crossroads as well
Beyond Meat Plant-Based Burgers are less healthy for you than meat. Clayton's healthy, Healthy when you're not being healthy!
good for the environment, ok for you
How can you say good for you. Look at the ingredients. Better off eating some baked beans than this heavily processed stuff… 20 years from now something in it will most likely flagged as carcinogenic. Smoking was considered once and that was plant based….
good for the environment
Perhaps in isolation, but not when you factor in the environmental impact of the healthcare system (which will be under heavy load when everyone gets weak and sick eating this shit all that time).
good for the environment
How?
Agreed. You want less processed food, not more. Beef through a grinder is a simple process. The things done to make veggies into something that looks and tastes like meat is worse. The better veggie patties I've had, you can still identify actual ingredients in them and the taste can have even more depth.
i eat lentil patties, can’t imagine trying to make them into something that tastes of meat , sometimes make them and enjoy the lentil texture and flavour for what it is
Absolutely. Nothing beats a good Irish vegetable stew.
Although much as I relish the musky barley undertones, it’s the morsels of mutton that are the showstopper.
Mutton dressed up as lentils…
Except a Greek stew….;-)
@fprjet: Do you have a recipe or style you recommend? I could definitely use a new stew this winter and already have the lamb.
@formulated: https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/168138/greek-lamb-stew/
https://www.supergoldenbakes.com/kokinisto-beef-stew-in-toma…
Beef is obviously leaner as lamb is a fattier meat …..enjoy…..
Below are nice winter foods…
But this is to die for https://www.mygreekdish.com/recipe/greek-lemon-chicken-soup-…
and one last https://www.recipesfromeurope.com/fasolada/
@fprjet: Much appreciated!
do you have any idea the amount of chemical processes it takes to turn what a cow eats into beef? It's crazy! Meat is the ultimate processed food.
I know people who buy this because they enjoy eating it, not necessarily to be healthy. They have other foods to eat which are healthy…
Gross
Some of these are decent (I think Impossible is the really mind-blowingly tasty one), but are a lot of them are better off being broken up and fried as vegetarian taco mince. Otherwise the meat free sausages are generally a bit better for say a hunk of something fried in a piece of bread with some lettuce.
I buy the Impossible patties at my local Coles and Woolies where they are regularly on clearance for about $1. Goes good frozen in the freezer for easy addition to spag bol, etc. I find it essentially never goes off unlike real mince.
You are correct in saying that meat substitutes never go off. Even if they did go off — which they can’t, of course — they’d taste the same as they did when fresh
of course it can go off, and they definitely wouldn't taste the same as fresh.
@9hundred: Better or worse?
The impact of spoilage on vegan food is akin to storm damage in a hippie commune. The 2010 cyclone in Ningan apparently did 500 million dollars worth of improvement!
They do go off. If you leave them in the fridge too long and they're sealed in an airtight covering it will start to expand as gas escapes them.
FYI 113g is a quarter pounder
Same price WA too
Thanks! Hopefully it's at my closest costco
Don't buy this. Taste horrible.
Where can we get this horrible to try?
Thank you OP
Dumb use of a neg.
because?
If your answer is because you think it's not good for you, do you go negging all the chocolate / confectionary posts with the same gusto?
Seems to be more insecurity around meat alternatives. You know like how some men get super insecure and offended if another guy uses moisturiser? Yeah… that level of stupid.
Ikr but everything is soo politicised these days.
So hard to tell what most people are objecting to, the literal subject at hand or the political conspiracies tied in to it.
May aswell eat plastic
What do you mean? We're all eating plastics already.
I think they were being cleared at Ipswich too but I don't remember the price.