Disneyland or The Gold Coast?

Always wanted to go Disneyland when I was little but my migrant parents worked their fingers to the bone in dead end jobs just to feed, clothe and educate us. I’m now in a position where I can give my kids that Disney experience. Something for them to look back on fondly when they’re adults. I want to do that for them sometime in the next couple years, before they get too old and the magic of childhood disappears.

We’re not rolling in cash or anything, but the one-off trip is within our means. Trouble is I don’t want to be stupid with money, and I keep thinking whether the money could be better spent on a real trip, like the pyramids or Great Wall of China or something like that. If Disneyland is just a collection of rides, would we be better off just going to the theme parks on the Gold Coast?

Has anyone been to both that can give me an idea of whether the cash to magic ratio at Disney is worth it? Has any other parent had this dilemma?

Many thanks,

Comments

    • +12

      lol

    • +15

      Can’t think of anything more wholesome …

        • +51

          Why are you on Ozbargain, Ron DeSantis?

        • +8

          Hey so, what does "woke" mean exactly?

          • +6

            @smartazz104: Soccially progressive

            Often used to discuss issues where said progress includes justified racism/sexism/etc in hiring/education/media in an attempt to gain equality of outcomes or normalisation of social differences. The socially progressive viewpoint blames any/all injustices or perceived unfair outcomes as being the result of a persons social cetgorisation aka racism/sexism/etc from the system/individual while ignoring that class and culture are far greater indicators of future outcomes than social categories have ever been. The "culture war" is just a distraction to stop people from having a "class war", it's working because people object to poorly attempted brainwashing of themselves or their children through propaganda which is the method being used for attempted normalisation of the social differences.

          • -1

            @smartazz104: Not being an a$$hole = woke to some people.

          • +1

            @smartazz104: It means teaching your 5 year old kids about an#l sex without your knowledge and if you don't like it you get attacked

    • +47

      I hate that the yank culture war brain rot is seeping in here, it seems to be America's most successful export. They're not even peddling anything new to be outraged at. They're just recycling the old "LGBT = paedophiles" talking point from a couple decades ago. It ultimately wasn't successful then and won't be again. It's just a convenient distraction, so they don't focus on the erosion of worker's rights and the corporate class robbing them blind.

      Anyway OP, Disney and Universal Studios is a lot of fun for the kids (although, expensive as hell nowadays). Disneyland in Japan is probably better, as Tokyo is a lot more interesting and easier to get around in than LA, and probably slightly cheaper food/accommodation wise. Although, I have never been a big Disney fan and have only visited the LA park as a kid.

      • +9

        While we're on the tangent, the people in dresses parents should be worried about are priests and other religion pushers.

      • +4

        I thought it was the Jewish that were bad for kids. Or was it Rock and Roll? Maybe it was Dungeons and Dragons. Definitely it was Jazz…. and reading.

        • +2

          “They [Young People] have exalted notions, because they have not been humbled by life or learned its necessary limitations; moreover, their hopeful disposition makes them think themselves equal to great things — and that means having exalted notions. They would always rather do noble deeds than useful ones: Their lives are regulated more by moral feeling than by reasoning — all their mistakes are in the direction of doing things excessively and vehemently. They overdo everything — they love too much, hate too much, and the same with everything else.”
          (Aristotle)

          Seems to be an age old issue.

      • I wouldn't recommend Disneyland in Japan at the moment (2023) unless you like crowds and waiting in line. I can't speak first hand about it, the other half is researching it, but I've heard it's way more crowded than usual.

        Part of that is due to it being the 40th anniversary this year. Another reason is that they are reducing the covid restrictions.

        If you have to go, avoid the weekends.

        • +2

          We went to Tokyo Disneyland Xmas 2022 with a 5 turning 6 year old. This was after Japan opened up and queues for immigration where long (at Kansai).

          Even though it was 'sold out' ticket-wise, it was a Friday and not too bad during the day. Got busy at night, kids arriving after school, etc, then thinned out. Not crush level (like Christmas eve in Tonomoro hills, etc). Because it was December, it was cold, but not snowing. Weekends are busy in Japan. ymmv.

          The Tokyo Disneyland queues were okay -> 30-45minutes for the popular rides. Some of the kiddo type rides were only 15 minutes, or get off and quickly line up again. The time estimates were accurate. We could queue, find a table and eat within 30 minutes.

          Hong Kong was 1-1.5hours wait for a 45m displayed queue time… And waiting an 30-45 minutes for food to turn up and trying really hard to find a seat. Kid didn't want to go again to HK Disneyland a third time, as we had a 2-for-1 ticket, wants to Japan again. HK Disneyland is pretty run down compare to Tokyo. He's been to HK Disneyland about 5-6 times since 2.5. Now he's big enough to go on most rides (not all).

          We would probably do Disneyland Japan again and try Disney Sea. There are some hotels in Tokyo Bay that are close to the Disneyland. We stayed in central Tokyo and it was quite pricey getting taxi to/from hotel in Rappongi.

          Depending on what the kids like, there is Lego land (a bit ho-hum, seen it in Sydney and Hong Kong). Lots of train museums (if your kids loves trains).
          Young kids won't enjoy the temples, museums, etc in Japan. ymmv. I think things are picking up post covid for Japan.

          Don't know about Disneyland USA.

      • I vote universal studios LA, was a top day for me. The back lot trolley ride connected the movies in my day to the set it was made in.

        Would advise to get the express pass to skip the lines, it’s worth whatever they charge for it.

      • -1

        So you're pro sexualisation of children, got it.

        Don't know why you people can't just leave the kids alone, stop forcing your nonsense on kids that don't need to learn about that for 10 years.

        Only one reason why anyone would, pedos be grooming.

    • +16

      If you want your kids to be brainwashed, sure go ahead

      Don't be a useful idiot mate.

      Use the culture wars to rile you up whilst their corporate buddies rob you blind and leave you poor - it's been the playbook since the 1970s-80s, I'm sure even the Republican strategists in the Reagan administration would be pissing themselves if they knew idiots would still be falling for their tricks 50 years later.

    • +2

      Can you expand on this? I thought Disney just had lots of intellectual property that appealed to kids (cartoons, star wars, etc.)

      What sort of brainwashing do they do?

      • -8

        I was at Disneyland within a month ago and saw the shops within Disneyland selling CHILDREN'S CLOTHING promoting LGBT.
        I don't understand why children need to wear anything about sexual preferences.
        Target in USA is also selling LGBT clothing for children but went a step further and has clothing that restricts full development of young females
        A few days ago a proposed amendment to a bill in California would classify parents who refuse to affirm their child's gender as abusive and could result in revoked custody.

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12181615/Proposed-C…

        • +13

          What does the clothing actually say though? Is it just a rainbow logo?

          • @Deals For Days: Now i am curious about all those disney princesses… Maybe there was a different meaning to "Lett it go" and "when will my life begin?"

          • +2

            @Deals For Days: It's a fake story. Why would someone from Ozbargain buy clothes from Disneyland? That's a sure way not to get a bargain.

          • @Deals For Days: The a##l sex logo, yes

        • +17

          OMG selling clothes that promotes tolerance, how dare they! Maybe they should sell sheets with holes in them and flaming crosses.

          Frankly a kid is much more likely to grow up gay than grow up to be a prince or princess. Why not teach kids that being gay is OK? That there is more to life than being strait jacketed into traditional male behaviour. Frankly the gun culture in America is a much bigger problem that promoting tolerance. Maybe you should consider your priorities.

          You are quoting the Dailymail? Dear Lord.

          • +1

            @try2bhelpful: Ok groomer. It's teaching kids about man to man anal sex

            • @MementoMori: Straight people have anal sex too so you think that dressing a girl in a princess outfit teaches her to have anal sex? However, if you want to see groomers then think about what the Catholic Church did. You guys are just sick.

              The ones who don’t tend to have anal sex are gay women. So is it OK fir the Lesbian bit to be supported?

        • +3

          Target in USA is also selling LGBT clothing for children but went a step further and has clothing that restricts full development of young females

          I'm assuming that your nonsense statement (what clothing "restricts full development" of anything?) is referring to the "tuck friendly" swimsuits. Which were never sold in children's sizes to being with: https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-target-swimsuits-trans…

    • -3

      If his kids are too dumb to have any critical thinking and be brainwashe by a cartoon, then they have little hope for the future.

    • +2

      Go outside and touch the grass. Seriously.

  • +106

    The theme parks on the Gold Coast don't even come close to comparing to places like Disneyland…
    But you should definitely not go somewhere just for Disneyland, rather it should be a part of a larger trip.

    For example, go to Tokyo and spend a day or two in Tokyo Disneyland.

    • +21

      +1 tie a Disney experience in with a broader holiday and allow a day after to recover before going anywhere else.

      Gold Coast theme parks not in the same ballpark.

    • +2

      Good point, if we went, it would be 1 week to really do Disney and 1 week other touristy stuff

      • +7

        Japan has Disneyland and DisneySea in Tokyo. Prepare for lots of queues or pay for the fast pass.

        You could honestly spend two weeks just in Tokyo with a lot to do.

        • +2

          I found that there was not much to do in Tokyo unless you like shopping/nightlife..not great for families, it just becomes a heavily populated city apart from Disneyland and DisneySea.

          There's wayyy more things to see and do in Kyoto imo.

          • @furakoph: Thanks to the bullet train you can easily get from Tokyo to Kyoto too, not sure what to recommend for kids in Tokyo either.

          • +1

            @furakoph: I had the exact opposite experience. There is tons to do in Tokyo

      • One week in Disneyland in Japan!? You know how expensive that is right? One week would easily be a couple of grands for a family just for the entry along…

        • +1

          Klook seems to have some awesome discounts on the Disney entry tickets for Japan.

      • +2

        Or if like the example you said for a real trip you could go to Shanghai Disneyland and the visit the great wall a few days after. That was what I did. It was surprisingly uncrowded when we went and we managed to do everything we wanted and some of the relaxing rides a second time during the night. Our phone said we walked like 13km that day though and it sure felt like it.

    • +7

      Agree with this, we have been to Hong Kong Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland, but only because they are two great cities to visit with or without Disney. We just set aside 1 day in Hong Kong and only went to the night session for Tokyo.

      I'm hopeful that as my kids get older we can have overseas holidays showing them different places and cultures, not just touristy commercial ventures. My very well travelled in laws' kids probably think the rest of the world looks like the inside of all inclusive resorts.

    • +5

      Agree. 100% Tokyo Disneyland AND universal studios if you’re going to be there anyway.

      Japan is an experience alone. You’ll need 1-2 days for both

  • -7

    go thailand or bali

    • -2

      No- definitely not. Bali has rapidly descended into depravity and indecency not fit for children until the Indonesian Minister of Tourism sends in the real Polisi, BRIMOB and maybe army Provost Militer from Java to clean up drunken louts, scantily dressed women and fight-happy yobbos who find themselves post-fight very bruised and sorry for themselves in a 3 foot by 3 foot Balinese cell- away from general population. What they are doing now is way worse than what they would get away with back home.
      The Balinese are too caste constrained, tied to the Banjar and subservient to school the foreigners- a carry-over from little role in Independence. Javanese bored by no action in Aceh or Irian without scruples will be keen to go in hard and kick in heads. Last Jakarta riots had protester fatalities. Spare the baton, spoil the Westerner. Then Javanese will have to remain for least 6 months for Bali Banjar to be re-educated and their heads kicked for allowing gambling and daring think Banjar ever ruled the roost, not their local ex-military RT-RW. A broken, bruised and bankrupt Banjar will comply and assist the return of Bali to what it was- family and tourist friendly and affray/drunkeness/drugs/clubbing/whoring/party-scene/unfriendly.

      Putin's already given his blessing for the Russian yobs to be dealt with as OMON does, Zelensky is keen for fresh cannon fodder. China is cool with a clean-up. UK is selling ships & other gear to the Indonesian Navy, the EU have multiple on-going weapons deals so they're onboard leaving Australia with plenty of trade to loose so will shut up or face an agricultural boycott.

      Thailand- it's worse than it ever used to be- a lack of money has made the Kathoeys and "bar girls" do things they would have refused a decade ago in the worst dens of Western-patronised Kowboy and Pattaya. Even Phu Ket and Chiang Mai have become child unfriendly.
      Bali needs a year to re-orient itself. It will still be: "Come to Bali and have fun" but the banner underneath will be "Fun in moderation, tourism with respect and not like Pattaya on coke and rum where even you guys admit it's gone way too far"

      • +2

        leave kids at home, go to bali

      • +24

        lol are you ok? They just want to take their kids to Disneyland to have a good time. Not everything is a forum to get on some geopolitical soapboax.

        • +3

          Must be tiring been so perpetually angry at the world.

        • +1

          Especially having to be that wrong about things all the time. It must be stressfull

      • +5

        I'll not have whatever this dude is having

        • Looked at Bernhard's post history. Regret doing so now.

      • +1

        Bali has rapidly descended into depravity and indecency

        Probably from all the bogans that keep going there…

      • +1

        WTF! You're at it again champ!

        Just breath, relax and you'll be fine.

  • +18

    I reckon any time within school age is OK, indeed the older the better. Now assuming you're into themed rides and attractions, I'd say go to Walt Disney World and the Harry Potter Lands in Universal Orlando. There are way more theme parks, water parks, accommodation and dining options compared with Anaheim. Airfares, ticket prices and exchange rates notwithstanding, your daily spend in Orlando is not that different to the Goldy. As a five-time visitor I'd suggest a good starting point is AllEars.net. It's a hugely complex destination which does require research & preparation.

    • Thanks that’s a great website. Didn’t realise daily cost would be comparable to GC. Curious why you think older kids are better? I would be worried about the eye rolling when they get to that tween stage.

      • Well if you're assuming eye rolling before hitting teen years then I'd say they're not massive fans that won't look back with regrets and missed opportunities, either way. Are they big Disney fans?

      • +2

        When older they can split from you in the parks and enjoy their independence. Also likely to be more fearless and won't have you allocating time to the kiddy attractions - more time for Star Wars & Harry Potter. When I say daily cost: accommodation+food+car hire+tips I found in total much same as here. On one trip we did 14-nights with a 10-day park pass (with water park add-on) - intending to only go on Mon-Wed-Fri, but we ended up going every day. If you're saving for that once in a lifetime family trip, I rate it as number one. It's a joy to see the magic of Disney through the eyes of your kids. Sure you can take them to see other natural and man-made wonders but they have their whole lives ahead to do those things.

      • +1

        Daily cost is not comparable to the Gold Coast, not for tickets, not for food, not for accommodation.

    • Differences in the extent of Disneyland vs Walt Disney World here:

  • +5

    You are always combine China trip + Disneyland (https://www.shanghaidisneyresort.com/en/). Or Japan + Tokyo Disneyland. Even Hong Kong + Hong Kong Disneyland! If you or your kids really enjoy it, then you can plan a trip to US Disneyland or Disney World.

    • +3

      Do this, makes the trip much much more memorable.

      I did HK + Disneyland plus Shanghai + Disneyland (only a few months after opening).

      If it was only Disneyland I would skip it and save up for Disneyworld in the US and spend a week inside.

      • Definitely this. I've been to Shanghai Disneyland twice, kids loved it. Entrance wasn't cheap and the queues were long, but we explained to the kids beforehand and tried to strategically plan the day as much as we could. There is also a new Ocean Park in Shanghai now, lots of rides too. You can also plan a trip to Beijing if time and budget allow, the great wall is amazing, my 11yo has been but the 5yo hasn't, we plan to go there next time when we visit Shanghai. Beijing also has Universal Studio now. Nearby to Shanghai (about an hour train ride away) in Changzhou, you'll find Dinosaur Land, another theme park for your consideration. Entrance was a bit cheaper as it is in a smaller city and the rides were fun.

        I wouldn't say going to theme parks isn't a real trip. You have to cater the trip to the kids' age, when they're young, they will enjoy the theme parks much more than a jungle walk or the pyramids. Still a lot better than buying toys. And besides, my husband and I got a blast from all the rollercoasters too so it was a win win.

    • +10

      Tokyo Disneyland would be cool because then you could go to Universal Japan and see the Mario themed world too.

      • +1

        There's Nintendo land in Universal Studios Hollywood also.

    • +6

      Having done the Florida Disneys and Japan.

      I Completely agree - do Disney Tokyo and Universal Studios Osaka.

      Culture and theme park experience in one, cheaper and arguably a better experience (very well behaved guests etc.)

  • +14

    Disneyland. Gold Coast is lame. Full of yobbos and concreters.

    • -4

      Disneyland is lame, full of American (profanity) with children and (profanity) in mouse costumes.

      • +3

        I wouldn't be going to either of them. But Gold Coast remains the meth head ute-driving yobbo dystopia almost on a par with Darwin (how ironically named).

        • -4

          Nonsense. The problem is it’s full of Melbourne and Sydney idiots.

      • +2

        Addendum:

        Disneyland by itself (the infrastructure) is stunningly superb, but is full of FAT people (profanity) with FAT children and (profanity) in mouse costumes clueless about what to do other than eating and queuing (whilst eating/slurping).

    • Full of yobbos and concreters.

      And they are just the visitors, wait until you meet the locals.

      • +2

        How are Christian values kicked in the gonads by Disney?

      • +1

        Get back in your grave cardinal pell

    • +10

      Strange, the far-right are the ones who love Nazis.

    • +11

      Switch off the US culture war crap.

    • +1

      "shoebox full of USB sticks under the bed", personified, then given a bible and conscripted into the culture wars

  • +5

    The average person is too obnoxious these days for me to be happy lining up for an hour (plus) with them for a 5 minute (if that) ride.
    I love doing stuff with my family but if we see a crowd, and I understand Disney is always crowded, we head in the other direction and have our fun elsewhere.

    Having been to Universal Studios in Orlando I'd say the parks are mostly hype, and fall well below expectations.. yes, ahead of what Australia offers in terms of theme parks and rides, but it remains far more an "eating at McDonalds" style of thing than a "sitting down at a nice restaurant" kind of thing. As in, ..like everything over commercialised and oversubscribed, the only possible way you can come away from such an experience is a little disappointed.

    • +1

      That’s my worry too, that we spend a bomb, and come away disappointed. Particularly if it’s anything like the Sydney Easter Show. We go every few years, but it’s one long expensive day where we’re mostly queuing for rides, eat mega expensive food and buy rip off show bags.

      But I am somewhat encouraged by the fact that Disney seems to have some queue management via their app, and we would spend at least 5 days and take it easy each day.

      • +4

        If one thing Disney can do well it's handle large numbers of easily irritable people well.

      • +2

        Having been to a couple of Disneylands, it's nothing like the terrible crowds at the Sydney Easter show, and is also about a hundred times better in every way.

        Disappointment is not something you'll need to worry about, just saving enough money and going for enough days.

        Just make sure you go during the US (or Japan or wherever) school holidays, and not on a public holiday (except new years day, short lines).

        • Why do you suggest to make sure to go during local school holidays? Do they have more events, extended opening hours, etc.?

          • +2

            @chriise: Surely they must mean not to go. Avoid public holidays, spring and summer breaks which is when the majority of their school holidays are. Always best IMO to go during the week if you can. I've been there on a public holiday (Veteran's Day) and it was crazy busy, big queues to get inside. Once inside the queues were still huge but generally well managed.

          • +1

            @chriise: Sorry I meant DON'T go on their local school holidays. Too crowded.

      • +4

        Your kids won't come away disappointed. They will always treasure the experience.

      • +4

        I think taking kids when they are around 10 years old is ideal. They are still young enough to enjoy the 'magic' of Disney Land and old enough to enjoy some of the more adventurous rides.

        Kids won't come away from Disney disappointed. They will love it and cherish the experience - truly memories they will keep for life. If you can afford it, definitely make the effort to take your kids there. As others have said, make it part of longer holiday and not the only highlight.

        I went to Disney LA when I was 8 years old (I won't say how long ago - but I'm old) and I still remember that day to this day. I also revisited it in my teens and once in my 20s. Both of those times I didn't enjoy it that much.

        The Disney experience is best for the pre-teen years. I don't like crowds now, so I probably would hate visiting. But I will always be grateful to my parents for that visit in my younger years.

  • +8

    I'd go to Disney. You can go to the Gold Coast anytime you want, you can go up there for a weekend if you find cheap flights. But a big trip to a big Disney park is a bigger event.

  • +8

    I'm a Disneyland fanatic, been to 4 my whole life. Japan is the worst because each ride was a 4 hour waiting period as it's packed with school kids. France had no lines. Whatever you do, make sure you only go when your kids are old/tall enough to sit all the rides. We went to our first one in the US when I was 6 and I couldn't sit any cool rides and just waited around for my siblings to finish the rides, kinda kills me to this day lol

    • +1

      In French Eurodisney- it's bad manners if you don't have a Disney princess as your concubine and aren't puffing away disdainfully on Gauloises and plenty of red wine for the children.

      • +3

        Isn't that just France?

        • I find the French in smaller cities/town aren't too bad especially those in and around the French Alps. Friendlier and warmer than the small-town Germans/Austrians.

    • +2

      Been to 5 of them, plus 4 Universal Studios and various other theme parks, and I don't even like theme parks. Just avoid peak periods and school holidays if you can't stand the long waits. Crowds, long queues and junk food aren't exactly "something for them to look back on fondly" anyway. The same goes for the pyramids and the Great Wall, just be extra street-smart in Egypt.

      • Im heading to Egypt soon. Would you care to elaborate "be extra street smart"? Should i look out for pick pockets or scammers? What to avoid?

        • +4

          You'll be like cannon fodder to the scammers, the thieves, the standover merchants. The closer you get to the pyramids the worse it gets. Plus the rest of Europe with the no-go areas of Paris and the gypsies everywhere. Think Thailand-level scams and thieves, but worse.

          • @Daabido: Funnily enough my only issue in Europe was being pickpocketed in Barcelona. They dropped my wallet once they realised there was no cash in it. This was my own stupidity in not locking off my bumbag like I normally did.

            You just have to keep your wits about you and ensure you wallet is in a safe place. Normally I just put a loop around the zip bits of my bumbag so it isn't easy to open it. With the scammers you just wave them off. I had a woman try the "gold ring" scam on me but her English was so poor I had no idea what she was talking about. Don't buy the tourist tat they are selling. Understand what the currency exchange rates are.

            The best way to avoid the scammers is to do your research beforehand as to what the current scams are.

            With Egypt maybe you need to find a company that provides guides that you can trust. My sister went over to Egypt with an organised tour and she had no issues.

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