Lowest price of all time.
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With all the controversy around these SSD's, I'm surprised the price didnt drop sooner. Personally I will still be going for the SN850x even if I have to pay a premium for it.
SN850x is currently close to all time low price on amazon too https://www.amazon.com.au/Western-Digital-Black-SN850X-NVMe/…
what controversy ?
@Wicko: The 990 Pros have that issue if you don't upgrade the firmware. This deal is for 980 Pro.
The article does mention 'many' 980 Pros failing in China but that seems to be confined to China.
Samsung Issues Fix for Dying 980 Pro SSDs
However, it is quite possible SSDs in this batch are new enough you don't need to update the firmware. However, best to install the Samsung app and check to ensure of the latest firmware is installed.
Dont compare this with cheapest ones they are different
Waiting for cheaper & cheaper… ;)
Damn, no heatsink
my man!
7% off if you get 2 brings it down to 219 each i think
or find something cheap in the list
Do these require heatsinks if I'm using them in a PC?
Your motherboard might already have a heatsink included, these are pretty hot so they do kind of need one.
This or the Kingston KC3000?
For normal use you'd never notice a difference. But the KC3000 is slightly less efficient but faster, 980 pro is more efficient but has slower writes. I'd personally go for whatever is cheaper
What does "less efficient" mean? Not trolling, just want to know more about SSDs. I thought read and write speeds and cache RAM was the only thing to look out for.
Uses more power and puts out more heat, check out tomshardware's review. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/kingston-kc3000-m2-ssd-…
I'd say it's not a huge deal though, still worth looking at with some of these ssds. I feel like the most important things are:
- Read/write
- Nand flash (TLC or QLC)
- Dram or HMB
@Wicko: I agree that heat can become an issue depending on the location of your SSD. I have a mini-ITX board in my NAS server and one of the two M.2 ports are on the back of the mobo. There is very little airflow there, so my SSD has actually throttled sometimes (70°C). If you have the SSD at the front of the board with a beefy heatsink, minor differences in heat output will be of a minor concern though.
You're like the people that go to MSY and ask questions.
I always go lower heat.
I've got the KC3000 and have no complaints thus far.
$200 waiting room bros… I don't know if I can hold any longer… 😅
229 4tb is the place to be, different performance level though
which drives would those be? wouldnt mind some 4tb QLC
Pny2241, but hasn't come back to that price yet
Is it a waste to use this inside a USB enclosure?
Yes, it's a waste to use this in USB 3.2 gen 2 enclosure since you would run the SSD in PCIe gen 3 x2 mode + USB protocol conversion penalty.
Even Thunderbolt 3/4 is a waste too since that's PCIe gen 3 x4 mode.
I do have a 980 Pro, but it is in a PC, rather than an enclosure. Just an FYI, Kingston NV2 1TB in enclosures:
Thunderbolt 3 enclosure
USB 3.2 gen 2 enclosure
Mac results, PC results would be higher. However, look at USB 3.2 gen 2 enclosure results, you won't get much improvement with a Samsung 980 Pro.
are there cheap external enclosures for the purpose of cloning your main OS drive? since im out of ports
No great deals at the moment. There is one hack, but since it is a hack, I am not responsible for your actions. AliExpress offers a discount for new users. There appears to be one or two USB 3.2 gen 2 enclosure deals in which using the new user discounts can bring the price down to around $12:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004651777309.html
Pick the USB-C to USB-C one (Grey one instead of the default black one) (I would avoid USB-C to USB-A model from AliExpress as the included cable could be dodgy and doesn't run USB 3.2 gen 2 mode properly). You might be able to find a cheaper one. I have NOT purchased it so I cannot vouch for it. There could be cheaper ones. Get ones which support both NVMe and SATA3 as that gives you a better chance to get the Realtek chipset. All 3 chipsets are average, but Realtek one is the better out of the 3 chipset groups.
I'm looking for an external enclosure SSD solution for a new Apple Mac Studio. If I didn't read your comment I would have thought this was a possible solution.
So, if not this drive then what would be better for an external SSD (Thunderbolt, USB-C) ?
Using it for working files and not really interested in speed, but more on reliability and capacity.
Would it be better to just buy a Samsung T7 unit?
Just want to clarify, you most certainly can use this SSD as an enclosure. It's just an overkill. However, even the "overkill" bit is relative and depends on your situation given that it is for an Apple Mac Studio:
Depending on the enclosure type, the answer is different. USB 3.2 gen 2, a flagship PCIe gen 4 x4 SSD is really overkill. For Thunderbolt 3/4 and USB 4, there are reasons to justify using flagship PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs. They are most likely still overkill, but the two top consumer grade PCIe gen 3 x4 SSDs don't fully max out PCIe gen 3 x4 in sustained write so that is at least a legit excuse to go for a flagship PCIe gen 4 x4 SSD.
Would it be better to just buy a Samsung T7 unit?
For USB 3.2 gen 2, if you prefer ready to go external SSDs, go for T7 Shield. Standard T7's sustained write performance is not good.
@6828: For Apple Mac Studio, I would suggest consider a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 enclosure. There is a new chipset from ASMedia for USB 4. It is unclear whether that will lead to a significant price drop of Thunderbolt 3/4/USB 4 enclosures in the future (Intel's Monopoly on Thunderbolt / USB 4 enclosure chipset is coming to an end). The first enclosure to use that chipset is quite pricey unfortunately.
T7 Shield is a cheaper alternative, but it is still USB 3.2 gen 2 only. For me, if I need to boot from an external SSD (or really need high speed transfer) on a Mac, I would use Thunderbolt, but for just copying some data, I don't mind using a USB 3.2 gen 2 (and sometimes even USB 3.2 gen 1) enclosure with a cheap / cost effective SSD. For small number of files (especially from iPad/iPhone), I just use AirDrop.
The 1TB drive is just under $100 which is quite a deal also.
https://www.amazon.com.au/SAMSUNG-PCIe-Internal-Gaming-MZ-V8…
DRAM: LPDDR4
As of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, the Samsung 980 PRO SSD is available in capacities of 250GB, 500GB, and 1TB. The 980 PRO series is known for being a PCIe NVMe Gen 4 SSD, offering high-speed performance. However, it does not have built-in DRAM cache.
Please note that specifications and product offerings may have changed since my last update, so it's always best to refer to the latest information provided by Samsung or check their official website for the most accurate and up-to-date details about the Samsung 980 PRO SSD.
ChatGPT is wrong here, 980 pro definitely has DRAM cache. (980 non-pro does not have dram tho)
Yes, Pro has a cache.
However, Samsung has pulled the trick of the less reputable brands of changing components of the 980 Pro after good initial reviews:
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/samsung-confirms-970-evo-p…
This or Western Digital Black SN850X?
You need to decide yourself, whether SN850X is worth $14 extra. We also have KC3000 which is cheaper than both of them (from local retailers) and Silicon Power XS70 which is $166.04 (some people don't like Silicon Power).
We also have OZBers who have the ability to buy from China directly and pointed out SSD prices there (for most of models mentioned above) had been discounted there (so all these prices are not great). They are asking / hinting could more price drops be coming here.
For me, the SN850X, which is comparable with the newer and faster gen SS 990 Pro but also rock solid with no firmware issue, is totally worth the $15 extra. As said before, I’d rather skip a simple eat out than skimming on a critical component storing your valuable data. Just my 2c though.
SN850X has firmware / Windows driver warning issue [controller error on \Device\RaidPort0]. It is just most people aren't aware of it. WD has released a firmware fix for it. However, at least that issue isn't like the Samsung one. That said, some OZBers were aware of the WD SN850X issue and had used that to point out both Samsung and WD had firmware issues (so upgrade firmware immediately is strongly recommended) so they prefer SK Hynix PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs (which do appear to be more power efficient).
Regardless of whether you pick 980 Pro or SN850X, install the relevant software and upgrade the firmware. Hopefully, you get a new batch with latest firmware already installed, but better safe than sorry. Even for the other SSDs, if possible, check for firmware updates.
Thanks OP, was waiting for a price drop on this. Will be able to replace the 2nd 2TB HDD now
Cheers OP! Grabbed one for my new build, saw the price alert go off this morning but you already beat me to posting it! Crazy to think I paid around $200 for the 1TB Samsung 980 pro a year and a half ago!
$203 now….
$202.89
I have no clue but this project can be fake one.
Brand name is unknown and the seller is not Samsung defintely. While samsung sells directly on Amazon.
Especially, there are many reports of 980 pro 2tb model. When you look at the reviews,
Bought this drive intended for a thunderbolt 3 enclosure. The read speeds were 6630 Mb/s according to Samsung magician write speeds were 591 Mb/s. In reality I only managed 248 Mb/s sequential write using 5gb image file. Any file I attempted to write seemed stuck at 248 Mb/s. Substituting a pcie3.0 drive I got higher write at 591 Mb/s.
Speed a great for both read and write. Put this in a Thunderbolt 3 enclosure on my new MacMini and was getting speeds in excess of 2500MB/S using Blackmagic Disk Speed. Within a 200MB/S of the internal drive. Thunderbolt enclosure was WAVLINK - came with a heatsink and a decent case, easy install.
Mac internal drive Write 2863MB/S Read 2890MB/S
Samsung drive Write 2678MB/S Read 2517 MB/S
Exceptional considering Thunderbolt is limited by the PCIE Gen 3 translation.
FYI.
This is official Samsung link
https://www.amazon.com.au/Samsung-Internal-Solid-State-Capac…
FYI 2. the Read speed should be 7000mb/s and write speed 5000mb/s
according to a news the fake one speed varies from 500mb/s ~ 4000mb/s I dunno R or W.
I have no clue. but this product smells really bad. If you bought this already, test it. If it is slow, just return it.
You may not notice if it is fake or not before testing it.
I don't see why this isn't legit, this is coming from Amazon US and the link you put is Amazon UK. Both should yield brand new drives from Samsung?
I don't have clues too. This can be genuine or fake, I don't know.
I'm just saying. this product on amazon looks weird. go to sellers page and see what they sell.
You need to watchout
Ahhhh I came back hoping it would have dropped to $201.39 today
Price has gone up, cheapest I have found is $229 with free delivery through PC Byte.
It's $259 through the Samsung store, if you have an employee account with Samsung it's $207.20.
Getting cheaper and cheaper…