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Lexar NM790 SSD: 2TB $129, 4TB $255, 1TB $65 Delivered @ BPC Tech

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Lexar NM790 SSD: 2TB $129, 4TB $255, 1TB $65 Delivered @ BPC Tech
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Store RepBPC Technology on 09/08/2023 - 09:09 bpctech.com.au (3640 clicks)
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Gooooooood morning guys,

Today is the day!

Thanks for the massive support from Lexar, we are able to bring you crazy deals below!

Lexar® NM790 M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 4×4 NVMe 4TB NVMe SSD $255 Delivered
https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/lnm790x004t-rnnng-lexar-n…

Lexar® NM790 M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 4×4 NVMe 2TB NVMe SSD $129 Delivered
https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/lnm790x002t-rnnng-lexar-n…

Lexar Internal NVMe SSD NM790 PCIe Gen4x4 1TB $65 Delivered
https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/lnm790x001t-rnnng-lexar-i…

Enjoy the deal! And we are running a grand opening promotion, for customer who choose pick-up in our new store, you will get the chance to win 2x village cinema tickets every day by scanning the in-store QR code!

For any sales/support inquiries please don't hesitate to reach out to us!

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BPC Team

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    • AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 09/08/2023 - 13:33
      +2

      You can check the specs online and look through all the comments made by onliners. All I can say is I have a 4TB in my personal PS5, it works perfectly.

  • labyrinthinecities on 09/08/2023 - 12:16
    +1

    Thinking of upgrading the SSD on my Dell Optiplex 7060 Micro with this but I'm not sure it's compatible? Trying to follow some random internet guides to figure it out but if any one could provide advice it would be much appreciated. I'm using it for Home Assistant currently, with future plans move my media library (currently on portable storage drives) onto it and set up Plex/Jellyfin.

    • ReaperX22 on 09/08/2023 - 12:20

      Unless Dell has some specific lockdown on serials/models (which I HAVE seen for graphics cards in the past, or at least issues between PCIE generations, note this was a GPU generational issue, not PCIE Specific), I don't see why this wouldn't work.

  • WhatWhoWhyUsername on 09/08/2023 - 12:23
    +4

    @BPC Technology $10 sign up bonus not valid for 1TB model?

    • harro112 on 09/08/2023 - 12:34
      +5

      doesnt work for the 2tb either, i reckon they saw the comments in here and disabled it for this deal.

  • jtb on 09/08/2023 - 12:25
    +1

    Anyone know how much GB the 4t model can sustain the max write speed for and what it drops to afterwards?

    • Associatedpearcekk @ BPC Technology on 09/08/2023 - 12:33
      +1

      SLC Cache is around 675GB when empty.

      Around 2500MB/s average writing speed after the cache was used up. 1500MB/s for only 10 seconds during the whole test.

      No heatsink was attached.

      I had one myself.

      • jtb on 09/08/2023 - 15:24

        Thanks heaps for this info. I’m thinking of using it in an external case so those speeds are fine for me.

  • capslock janitor on 09/08/2023 - 12:25
    +2

    nice to see bpc rep on here ..

  • AFM7 on 09/08/2023 - 12:28

    Would 2 of these drives in raid 0 be a good idea or not so good idea? Speedwise that is…

    • Cheap Rich Guy on 10/08/2023 - 00:24

      Raid 0 would Bump the speed to 14GB/s which is in the Gen 5 speed realm.
      Which raid controller are you using? Motherboard, add-on card or software?

      • AFM7 on 10/08/2023 - 06:17

        Not sure what the controller is (couldn't find it on the webpage) but I have the ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI and I'm planning to put them on the M.2 hyper card.

  • OzBurger on 09/08/2023 - 12:41

    Any reccomended cases for this to use as an external drive for Xbox One?
    Ordered the 4TB version if that makes a difference.
    Thanks!

  • merajaan on 09/08/2023 - 12:48
    +9

    $10 newsletter discount code doesn't work anymore. All the incentive I needed to give this deal a pass

  • kojihama on 09/08/2023 - 13:04
    +1

    Bought a 2TB, thanks!

  • joshx on 09/08/2023 - 13:09
    +4

    Warning: These seem to not be properly supported by Linux yet (atleast the 4tb version), as there needs to be a quirk figured out. Suspending/unsuspending fixes it, and there is a kernel patch in the works to fix it.

    • EspadaV8 on 09/08/2023 - 20:16

      Oof. Thanks for the heads up. Was planning on getting one to replace my OS drive. Got any links about what's happening with it? It's for a desktop that is nearly always on, so might not be too much of an issue (and I'm running Fedora so usually have a pretty up to date kernel).

      Thanks

    • Look Up on 10/08/2023 - 20:58
      +2

      Re: [PATCH] nvme-pci: add NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY for MAXIO MAP1602

      So all drives with the Maxio MAP1602 controller affected, including but not limited to:

      Lexar NM790
      Acer Predator GM7
      Patriot Viper VP4300 Lite
      Fanxiang S790
      Fanxiang S880
      HIKVISION HIKSEMI Future
      AIGO P7000Z
      Netac NV7000-T

      Good to see Maxio prioritised PS5 testing over Linux

      Explains the shithouse performance with any non-sequential, random or multi-client usage

      • netsurfer on 11/08/2023 - 23:05

        I get the link showing MAP1602 has issues in linux. However, where is the bit which shows MAP1602 struggles with non-sequential, random usage?

        Don't get me wrong, I've been trying to get that type of information. However, so far, even looking at the PCMag review, while I can see bits which aren't very objective. It's random 4K read speed is decent enough.

        Multi-client usage, the main issue is it's hard to convince OZBer that is a key factor to consider when buying SSD. I am cynical about MAP1602 and that's why I am reluctant to get one. However, from all the figures I see so far, the bandwidth advantage seems to able to allow these SSDs to do well in tests most people care about.

        Acer Predator GM7 uses YMTC Xtacking 2.0 which doesn't bring out max performance when paired with MAP1602. I really hope people who own NM790 could run the flash utility to confirm it is indeed Xtacking 3.0 based NAND. If it is Xtacking 2.0, then it is a no for me.

        Also, I found this:

        static const struct pci_device_id nvme_id_table[] = { .driver_data = NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY, }, { PCI_DEVICE(0x1c5f, 0x0540), /* Memblaze Pblaze4 adapter */ .driver_data = NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY, }, + { PCI_DEVICE(0x144d, 0xa821), /* Samsung PM1725 */ + .driver_data = NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY, }, + { PCI_DEVICE(0x144d, 0xa822), /* Samsung PM1725a */ + .driver_data = NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY, }, { PCI_DEVICE_CLASS(PCI_CLASS_STORAGE_EXPRESS, 0xffffff) }, { PCI_DEVICE(PCI_VENDOR_ID_APPLE, 0x2001) }, { 0, }

        So NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY isn't something that's applicable only to MAP1602.

        I know these SSDs won't get regular firmware updates so better hope there won't be any major issue found later on.

        • Look Up on 12/08/2023 - 00:03

          I get the link showing MAP1602 has issues in linux. However, where is the bit which shows MAP1602 struggles with non-sequential, random usage?

          At this price I'd be getting the Lexar deal as it's TLC, better endurance and read/write speeds. Wouldn't even consider this given the prices are within a couple of $.

          TLC NM790 has slower write speeds than the QLC CS2241
          Gen 4 Maxio drives - like the NM790 - get smashed by a Gen 3 WD SN570 on random writes
          Gen 4 Maxio drives - like the NM790 - have read/write latency slower than a SATA Crucial MX500

          Maxio drives have obviously been optimised for PS5 marketing numbers so as gaming drives - just like the garbage Kingston NV2 - they serve their purpose

          But gems like these are obviously BS

          bruh, compare us with 990 pro please, 970 evo plus launched in Australia in Jan 2019.
          That was a top notch gen 3 ssd 4 years ago.
          We are in gen4 now.
          I worked with Samsung for almost 10 years, I love Samsung SSDs.
          But we definately win this one.

          Outside of a PS5, the NM790 does not even compare to a non-DRAM TLC SN570, let alone the DRAM TLC 970 Evo Plus

          • BennyHe2018 on 12/08/2023 - 00:38

            @Look Up: Depends on what you are focusing on.

            NM790 provides TLC NAND and high sequential R/W speed within SLC Cache and decent TBW at an attractive price.
            SN570 is around $150 with less sequential read and write speed within SLC cache.
            970 EP with DRAM is much more expensive and runs hotter than Lexar NM790.

            For average gamers, the differences between these three are barely noticable in game loading time. For heavy file transferring, a Gen4 SSD with DRAM and heatsink is a must aiming at stable sustaining R/W speed.

            YMTC really brings more competition of NAND supplies and that is why Samsung, WD have slashed their price. I still remember getting a 2TB 980 Pro with heatsink cost $358 in May 2022, thinking it was a deal.

            Anyways, more competitors in the market are always beneficial to our consumers.

            • netsurfer on 12/08/2023 - 02:24
              +1

              @BennyHe2018: Another way to look at it is NM790 requires YMTC to bring up its latest NAND in order to be in the running (being attractive enough).

              Phison E21 and Maxio MAP1602 are clearly geared towards doing great in common benchmark apps. MAP1602 basically uses Phison E21's playbook and goes one step further. It's due to 99% of general public cannot really fully utilise PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs so we can be easily fooled into thinking these controllers are awesome.

              YMTC being the reason Samsung and WD lowing SSD prices… honestly, that's just pro China talk. At this price, YMTC is no saint. It is in it to make money. Pity YMTC is a bit late so it missed out on higher margin last year and the year before.

          • netsurfer on 12/08/2023 - 01:02

            @Look Up:

            TLC NM790 has slower write speeds than the QLC CS2241

            That's not true, not objective anyway. If you want to show the reps did some dodgy cherry picking of benchmark results, it's best not to do the same.

            The sequential write, especially after the SLC cache runs out, QLC is most certainly a lot slower (100MB/s). The aggressive nature of using SLC means QLC will suffer greatly in foldback write. That's something we have to let people know.

            Random write, high QD: QLC CS2241, that's Phison E21 having more cores AND SLC write cache test. The problem is while it is something we, people who really care about SSDs would look at. It is something most people don't need to worry about. When you use CDN and picked real world performance, you would noticed it picked QD1 for 4K test.

            Once you looked at the real world app testing result, NM790's equivalent does well and that's the problem. Game developers and most app developers won't use SSDs in the way high queue depth random write matters. And let's be frank, Samsung also prioritises random read over write.

          • netsurfer on 12/08/2023 - 11:04

            @Look Up: Out of all the NM790 reviews so far, none of them is very objective, but I guess this one will do. 980 Pro is a bit dated, but still reasonable to be used to compare.

            Quick System Benchmark result, while I was hoping the 4K random read/write latency would bring NM790 down, its bandwidth advantage was able to offset it or fool the test. That makes it hard to hammer down on latency being extremely important:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPnqeAA9gN0&t=5m40s

            Data Drive Test. This kinda exposes one of NM790's marketing tricks. There is still cost cutting done to NM790, but even this test doesn't fully expose it. It does expose it somewhat I guess:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPnqeAA9gN0&t=6m29s

            Full System Drive Test. This is why it is hard to trash NM790 at the moment. Sure, it is basically using Phison E21's playbook, but that does work to trick win this benchmark test:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPnqeAA9gN0&t=7m2s

            Now, this is the one, the consistency test. As expected, NM790 cannot hide its weakness here. Problem is, no DRAMless SSDs do well in this test.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPnqeAA9gN0&t=468s

            Yes, we know Maxio + YMTC use some tricks, but it is just very difficult to find something that people can run to exploit / demonstrate them quickly. It's not objective enough to ask people to spend time running consistency test, in which Phison E21 SSDs would also be exposed. People will then ask us, what's the point exactly? I already indicated 990 Pro 1TB at $56 being a better buy, but no such deal right now and most people just cannot resist 4TB and the TLC NAND (instead of QLC) marketing.

            Linux issue, yes, right now, that is a problem for NM790. However, it is likely the linux community will provide a workaround for it in the future. It is not the only SSD having that issue (a number of external SSDs have similar issue despite having quality SSDs inside).

            • MeateaW on 12/10/2023 - 09:22

              @netsurfer: I really liked the techpowerup review.

              https://www.techpowerup.com/review/lexar-nm790-4-tb/

              The latency test is what gave me pause for buying one of these as a system drive.

              But, then I keep running out of disk space and I think to myself … what's more annoying, my WSL instance temporarily nuking itself when I run out of disk space building a random machine learning model that I'm just building for fun, or my whole system stuttering when accessing the drive after I've filled it more than 50% …

              It's genuinely difficult for me to decide… double the drive space in my laptop I use for work, while potentially sometimes feeling it… or spend more money on an actual good drive…

  • bopter12 on 09/08/2023 - 13:26

    Can anyone comment on how a 2TB model would go as an external drive? Mainly for storing photos and media.
    I know the speed is probably overkill but how about general functionality of writing a few hundred GBs of photos and videos to it?
    Would be used in an enclosure that has a heat sink.

    • AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 09/08/2023 - 13:35

      I will bringing in some very sharp pricing on external drives later this quarter, probably available only in NRs, using a gen 4 NVME drive in a exclosure is fine, but the speed is usually limited by your enclosure. It's a bit waste but if you can justify running a 7k/6k r/w speed nvme in a enclosure that probably go up to 2k-3k, I guess it will run just fine.

      • bopter12 on 09/08/2023 - 13:38

        Hi Chris - Thanks for that, I appreciate your reply.
        I get that it would be limited by the enclosure and I will likely move it into my PC later down the line.

        I'm mainly thinking about performance as the drive fills up. Would it still hit that 2-3k mark until it's full?
        Cheers

        • AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 09/08/2023 - 13:45

          really need to look at the specs of your enclosure to be honest, many of the enclosure max out at 2000mb/s (you might have better ones than mine) but that is still a long way from max out NM790

  • RiskyAU on 09/08/2023 - 13:31
    +18

    Come on bring back the BPCT10 code! it's the only thing holding me back :)

  • Kingduytan on 09/08/2023 - 13:47

    Ah crap, couldn't wait for this deal so I jumped on the 4tb Silicon Power UD90 last week. Is it possible to return Amazon JP stuff simply for change of mind reason?

    • AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 09/08/2023 - 13:55
      +6

      give it a try, just say you don't understand Japanese.

    • Gav on 09/08/2023 - 13:58

      If it's not shipped you should be able to cancel on the website. If you return for change of mind you can be charged fees.

      • Kingduytan on 09/08/2023 - 14:05

        Well yeah it's already shipped and arrived in Sydney, so probably will be delivered in couple of days.

        • povogamer on 09/08/2023 - 15:00
          +1

          with Amazon JP via AU you have to ship it on your own (no return label). depending on your return reason Amazon reimburses you the shipping cost (up to $30-something)

    • wjb on 09/08/2023 - 22:34

      Is this better than UD90?

      • Kingduytan on 10/08/2023 - 08:39
        +1

        The UD90 most likely uses QLC based on recent reviews which have shorter life span than TLC. Also Silicon Power drives in general seem to have higher failure rate. Now, $210 for the 4TB UD90 is pretty good price imo, but I wouldn't mind paying a bit more for the Lexar since I typically keep my drive for up to 10 years or until they fail.

    • Kingduytan on 22/08/2023 - 11:13

      Just putting it out here in case anyone wonder, I returned the Silicon Power and got full refund. I checked mine when it came in and indeed used QLC, so I just requested a return stating product not meet expectation which gave free return shipping (it's $16 for change-of-mind return).

  • manity on 09/08/2023 - 13:58
    +1

    How exactly do you tell from the specs a SSD has Dram or not? I can't seem to find any parameters that specify this from any brands spec sheets.

  • Shazbot-66 on 09/08/2023 - 14:19
    +3

    bruh what happened to me newsletter discount

  • KaTst3R on 09/08/2023 - 14:26
    +4

    Nice to see the actual product manufacturer's rep come in and try to sell you the deal. That is good sales and support.

    • AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 09/08/2023 - 14:44
      +22

      I will screenshot your comment in my next contract negotiation.

        • AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 09/08/2023 - 15:24

          I don't really know what you talk about, we don't have a 10$ newsletter discount or anything like that I am aware of.

          If any retailer is doing free freight, 10$ off or 100$ off, that wasn't really covered by our promo.

        • keejoonc on 09/08/2023 - 15:26
          +7

          Why are you asking a rep for Lexar about newsletter code for a retailer? face palm

          • AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 09/08/2023 - 15:34
            +12

            @keejoonc: look at my pocket, I really have no more money left, no 10$ discount code, only some toilet paper I forgot to take out before I throw my pants into the washing machine.

  • mitch21 on 09/08/2023 - 14:58

    Anyone know where to get a cheap heat sink that will fit ps5?

    • dqtl74 on 09/08/2023 - 20:09
      +1

      I was also planning on using it for my PS5, but the comments about voiding warranty if you remove the label (which it seems you need to do in order to maximise thermal pad conductivity) have me reconsidering.

  • KingUltra on 09/08/2023 - 15:02

    Silly question but where is this newsletter folks have been talking about? Cheers

    • merajaan on 09/08/2023 - 15:13
      -1

      As noted above, the $10 newsletter discount doesn't work anymore

    • gazer on 09/08/2023 - 15:16

      register an account - then select newsletter comms. but dont worry, code for $10 now not working…..

      • KingUltra on 09/08/2023 - 15:17

        Cheers mate, I gathered as much

      • merajaan on 09/08/2023 - 15:34
        -3

        @gazer I wish people on here would stop spreading this. The $10 discount code from signing up to BPC's newsletter does not work anymore irrespective of whether you register a new account or not. It literally worked for the first 10mins the deal was posted but was then disabled by BPC.

      • vovka on 09/08/2023 - 19:12

        Then buy from MWAVE using cashback

  • VoidIvory on 09/08/2023 - 15:53
    +1

    Been waiting for this since the EOFT sale

  • shaiguy on 09/08/2023 - 16:28
    +4

    FYI, there is a SSD geek/enthusiast on Reddit who regularly updates info/provides advice. A few of the links:
    - Reddit SSD Guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/comments/dhvrdm/ssd_guides_…
    - SSD buying flowchart: https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide.png
    - His new website: https://borecraft.com/
    - SSD comparison: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcr…

    • Sandaz on 09/08/2023 - 17:33

      No rating for this drive yet but has nominal specifications.

  • cwongtech on 09/08/2023 - 16:41
    +1

    Is there an end date for this?

    • AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 09/08/2023 - 17:27
      +2

      officially till end of this month, but there might be extra stock left over

  • capslock janitor on 09/08/2023 - 16:47
    +2

    @netsurfer

    • netsurfer on 09/08/2023 - 18:05
      +6

      I really need to get one, test it before offer my opinion. So below is not objective.

      Assuming it is Maxio + YMTC Xtacking 3 (gen4) TLC NAND, the price drop makes it hard to beat right now (maybe except that 990 Pro deal for $56). It's the only type of 4 channels PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs meeting Sony's PS5 requirements (except Sony kinda recommends SSDs with DRAM).

      Most flagship SSDs are 8 channels but they need 2TB or more to show their strength. At 2TB and 4TB, flagship clasd 8 channels can beat these, but I really doubt people have the kind of workflow to notice.

      Note: it is due to increase in other SSD makers doing NAND swaps, I think these might be worthwhile BUT if Lexar has joined the others and swapped components, then re-evaluation is needed.

      The nitpicks are I don't rate the warranty service top notch and potential lack of firmware update.

      The controller and NAND combo is too new to comment on reliability.

    • netsurfer on 09/08/2023 - 19:03
      +10

      Looking at these individually (assuming no component swap took place & you have a m.2 PCIe gen 4 x4 slot):

      1TB: With the 990 Pro 1TB for $56 deal, it just makes majority of 1TB deals look bad at the moment. Currently, NM790's main competitors are Kingston NV2 and WD SN570 (if you only need PCIe gen 3 x4). NV2 is lottery (TLC vs QLC), and if you have PCIe gen 4 x4, then NM790 performs much better. Laptop… gets a bit tricky since temperature might be a consideration (SN570) though if your laptop supports PCIe gen 4 x4, laptop maker may include a built in heat spreader and/or heatsink.

      2TB: Due to component swaps done by others, the previous low cost 2TB TLC at $109 from PNY is now QLC (no longer worth getting). This basically leaves SN570 and 970 Evo Plus, both PCIe gen 3 x4 only and cost more. However, SN570 2TB, unlike 1TB, has a really large dynamic SLC cache. Silicon Power XS70 2TB, 8 channels and DRAM is tricky to evaluate (due to controller and NAND swaps).

      4TB: While QLC 4TB SSDs had priced lower, assuming NM790 is TLC, there is basically no competition at that price point (I stress again, assuming no component swap).

      In short, NM790, for the moment, are priced competitively. I am assuming Lexar had not done dodgy component swaps like the others. However, we are seeing a non stop price drop on SSDs so you need to make your own decision. These attracting SSD prices are really testing your ability to resist FOMO purchases.

      • Associatedpearcekk @ BPC Technology on 09/08/2023 - 21:20
        +3

        What I can tell you is that all NM790 use TLC NAND, while the QLC Version will be named "NQ790"(Nice quality 790), coming out in Q4.

        I've seen cheaper QLC "NQ790 like" 2TB SSD selling at around $110 AUD overseas

        The general performance of all YMTC QLC NAND will be like: 2TB: Reading 7100Mb/s , Writing 6300Mb/s, 1500TB endurance.

        That's the reason I trust Lexar, they do provide details of their products.

        • netsurfer on 09/08/2023 - 21:27
          +3

          The general performance of all YMTC QLC NAND will be like: 2TB: Reading 7100Mb/s , Writing 6300Mb/s, 1500TB endurance.

          Um, no, the "best" case sequential performance: Reading 7100MB/s , Writing 6300MB/s. That's SLC cache write performance, no way the TLC or QLC NAND native speed can reach 6300MB/s write. Random read/write, you are not going to get 7300MB/s read from these SSDs (even Intel Optane cannot achieve that for random read/write). Best case figures quoted are for high queue depths, not queue depth of 1.

          YMTC QLC going to quote Reading 7100MB/s , Writing 6300MB/s… that just shows the QLC wave is also coming from YMTC. Hey, if TLC is quoting SLC cache speed, QLC can do the same, right?

          The endurance is somewhat a double edge sword here. YTMC is quoting a higher write cycles and as such, it appears to use less spare cells. I am nit-picking it though (comparing to flagship class SSDs which do cost more). However, you do have to believe YMTC XTacking 3 is better.

          I know the strengths and weaknesses of Maxio + YMTC TLC NAND combo. It's a good option given that it is not holding back, unlike majority of Phison E21 combo, which does appear to hold back a bit. However, the controller is still single core. General usage, it's fine. For the professionals, DRAMless and 4 channels, for the know how, they still know the weaknesses.

          Overall, it is good combination for the price point. However, there is no need to overhype them too much. Lexar brand is being factored in… otherwise, there are some el cheapo brands selling SSDs with the same controller and NAND chips (overseas, so warranty will be a big issue).

          I do appreciate you confirming these SSDs have TLC NAND chips.

      • DmytroP on 17/08/2023 - 19:00

        I'd consider Team Group MP34 for 4TB, it was priced similarly recently, it's gen3 but has a bit of DRAM and does not have the Linux compatibility issues.

      • boomersgold on 28/10/2023 - 16:48

        @netsurfer I'm looking for a 2TB drive to use as a secondary drive. Which would you say is the best value 2TB drive on the market right now? I've found a Crucial P3 2TB for around $130 but the NM790 2TB is available for $130-140. Any recommendations?

  • overlook on 09/08/2023 - 16:59

    what is the best way to swap my c drive to this or still better to just clean install and start over

    • AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 09/08/2023 - 17:30

      Unless your machine is really mission critical, otherwise fresh install is always the top recommendation.

      That said, there are plenty ways to back up and restore your data to a new drive.
      You can youtube this topic and find multiple easy ways to do it.

    • Sandaz on 09/08/2023 - 17:30

      Free macrium reflect but im no expert on the ins and outs.

    • Shazbot-66 on 09/08/2023 - 18:32
      +1

      Paragon MIGRATE OS from Paragon Hard Disk Manager or similar instead of just plain clone, although clone will work

  • Gmetal on 09/08/2023 - 17:06

    Two of these in RAID as NAS Cache?

    • VoidIvory on 09/08/2023 - 18:50

      I would probably go with something that has a dedicated DRAM cache instead.

      • vovka on 09/08/2023 - 19:21

        2TB Lexar NM800 costs more than $341 on Amazon. Hardly justified investment for NAS caching.

    • netsurfer on 09/08/2023 - 19:30

      Make sure your NAS supports PCIe gen 4 x4. I know some NAS only runs NVMe cache at PCIe x1. Unless you have 10Gbps ethernet (and technically even that is roughly 1.25GBps only), PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs as NAS cache is overkill.

      Running these as NAS SSDs (instead of HDDs), overkill, but if you have the cash… why not.

    • FoxJump on 09/08/2023 - 21:15

      I gave up waiting for affordable 8tb nvmes.
      So now i use semi-affordable 8tb sata (samsung qvos)
      Despite their advertised read speed of 500MB/s it's really 300MB/s - so with 4x in raid5 thats 900MB/s speed which makes my 2.5Gb ethernet look silly.

      so … cache? probably fine. Your network is not going to keep up anyway.

  • Sandaz on 09/08/2023 - 18:59
    +1

    @BPC Technology and @Chris Lexar ANZ , can you confirm componentry in these please?
    The Ozbargain community has had lots of discussions about unannounced component changes in models of other brands (e.g tlc to qlc and controller swaps). Would be greatly appreciated.

    • netsurfer on 09/08/2023 - 19:19

      Not sure whether it is realistic to expect them to open the SSDs, put them in a PC, run the flash utility because they won't be able to sell those SSDs once opened.

      Would be good to find out whether these are from a new batch. Also, honestly, nowadays, after buying an SSD, one should open it, run the flash utility to check (assuming it is not a WD or Samsung or some of the SK Hynix ones (as those ones use proprietary controller and flash utilities for those are not available to the public).

      Anyone who got it today, if they could go to:

      http://vlo.name:3000/ssdtool/

      Then go to JMicron/Maxiotek/Maxio utility section, try the last one in that group first: Maxio nvme flash id

      If it works, kindly post the full output. I don't own one of these so I cannot confirm that utility works.

      • Sandaz on 09/08/2023 - 20:06

        For BPC, probably not. But Lexar would know the spec or it would be a quick internal call away. Anyway, let's let them decide.

        A buyer posting recieved spec on here would also work of course.

      • maverickjohn on 09/08/2023 - 21:28
        +1

        I bought the 4tb ..kinda feel good I didn't get the SP and Pny now.
        Got it for $245 using $10 after pay code
        I'll try the diagnostic once it arrives.

      • maverickjohn on 15/08/2023 - 17:29

        Drive : 1(NVME)
        Scsi : 2
        Driver : W10
        Model : Lexar SSD NM790 4TB
        Fw : 12237
        HMB : 40960 - 40960 KB (Enabled, 40 M)
        Size : 3907018 MB [4096.8 GB]
        LBA Size: 512
        Firmware id string[0C0] : MKSSD_101000000122373100,May 22 2023,14:51:38,MAP1602,1SSYBB5C
        Project id string[080] : r:/Congming_Hao/MAP1602-X3-9070-4T-SN11853-Base-SN12237
        Controller : MAP1602
        NAND string : CYAxxTE1B1xC3B
        List may not be complete
        Ch0CE0: 0x9b,0xc6,0x59,0x71,0x30,0x0,0x0 - YMTC 3dv4 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
        Ch1CE0: 0x9b,0xc6,0x59,0x71,0x30,0x0,0x0 - YMTC 3dv4 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
        Ch2CE0: 0x9b,0xc6,0x59,0x71,0x30,0x0,0x0 - YMTC 3dv4 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
        Ch3CE0: 0x9b,0xc6,0x59,0x71,0x30,0x0,0x0 - YMTC 3dv4 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die

        • netsurfer on 16/08/2023 - 12:17

          Thanks for the info, I will need to re-check the 1TB version (I seem to recall the 1TB version shows 232L 3dv4). Anyway, 3dv4 TLC is good, it is the latest one. 3dv3, some people think they may not be good for long term data cold storage (unconfirmed though). Acer GM7 appears to be 3dv4 128L.

      • maverickjohn on 16/08/2023 - 06:48

        https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/acer-predator-gm7-ssd-r…

        Seems to be similar to this but with the newer ymtc Nand.
        Hw info is telling me it's running at 37° idle with no heatsink. Just using the shield from my mobo. This is in an ASRock itx z790

      • cr4pm4n on 16/08/2023 - 20:47

        I got the 1tb:

        Drive : 4(NVME)
        Scsi : 1
        Driver : W10
        Model : Lexar SSD NM790 1TB
        Fw : 9597
        HMB : 32768 - 32768 KB (Enabled, 32 M)
        Size : 976762 MB [1024.2 GB]
        LBA Size: 512
        AdminCmd: 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x08 0x09 0x0A 0x0C 0x10 0x11 0x14 0x80 0x81 0x82 0x84 0xC1 0xC2
        I/O Cmd : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x08 0x09
        Firmware id string[000] : MKSSD_100000000095973100,Jan 7 2023,09:49:52,MAP1602,1SSYAA3C
        Project id string[080] : r:/x3-9070-8705-branch-9597
        Controller : MAP1602
        List may not be complete
        Ch2CE0: 0x9b,0xc5,0x58,0x71,0x30,0x0,0x0 - YMTC 3dv4-232L(x3-9070) TLC 16k 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die

    • AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 09/08/2023 - 22:04
      +8

      Hi Sandaz:

      As a tech guy I understand you want to know what is inside the stuff you are buying. Especially for computer parts, the componentry details could make whole lot of differences.
      Unfortunately I am not allowed to give you anymore information than our website shows.

      But if you wonder why is this model so much cheaper than all the competitors.
      I can assure you it's not because this is cutting corners on the componentry.
      If you do some research about Longsys, you will understand this is one of the largest SSD manufacturer in the world. We are not some random brand just pop out some eye catching numbers to cover horrible quality components.

      We have sharp price because of 3 main reasons:

      1. Volume advantage globally.

      2. I have been doing SSD and GPU in Australia for more than 15 years. My strategy is to be disruptive to make awareness.

      3. I was going to do a games giveaway with SSD+RAM purchase, but didn't end up getting any games, so I unwillingly saved up some funds.

      If you don't trust reviewers online, just ask any random Ozbargainers who bought them earlier to check how well these drives perform in both PC and PS5.

      All I'm saying is you can trust our brand and trust our products and don't have to worry about what's inside, if anything not running correctly, you can always come and find me here.

      • WhatWhoWhyUsername on 10/08/2023 - 13:37

        Not sure if you have any relation on the memory card side but the endurance cards used with my Navman dash cam have been reliable and great!

  • FunkyPants on 09/08/2023 - 20:06

    Hi Guys,

    Can this be used as a storage device for plex server on Dell optiplex 7060 i5 8500? Or should i be looking for a 3.5" iron wolf instead which is expensive !

    • MonkDog on 09/08/2023 - 20:29

      If you're asking it if functions in the OptiPlex 7060, I'm using one from the last deal in mine (the micro FF 8500T version).

      If you're asking specifically about plex server, don't know sorry.

    • netsurfer on 09/08/2023 - 21:15

      Intel 8th gen, by default, only supports PCIe gen 3 x4. Therefore, getting NM790 is overkill. The only excuse you could use is SSDs which cost lower have higher chance of being QLC. Though honestly, if we are talking about gigabit ethernet and mostly video playback, QLC is good enough. This price is tempting, but $/GB, they still cost more than my HDDs.

  • masya on 09/08/2023 - 20:35

    Ordered 4TB, thank you

  • payrings on 09/08/2023 - 21:05

    Thank you OP, I bought a 4TB!

  • barge88 on 10/08/2023 - 01:13
    +1

    Unfortunately I’m on Holliday in Croatia at the moment. It looks like BPC tech has blocked all traffic from here on their website. Any ideas or free VPN’s I don’t need to sign up for?

    • Radmartigan on 10/08/2023 - 08:15

      Mwave is having a similar sale if that helps

      • barge88 on 10/08/2023 - 17:00

        It does!
        Thank you, just ordered

  • Rogerwilco on 10/08/2023 - 01:18

    Are these backwards compatible with Gen 3 and if so will they also perform as well as decent DRAM-less TLC Gen 3 drives?

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