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Lexar NM790 with Heatsink M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 4×4 NVMe SSD: 4TB $265, 2TB $139, 1TB $75 + Delivery ($0 to Metro) @ BPC Tech

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Original deal without heatsink:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/792769

Coming Soon: 09/10/2023

1TB with heatsink (thx #Ozbed)
https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/lnm790x001t-rn9ng-lexar-i…

2TB with heatsink: https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/lnm790x002t-rn9ng-lexar-n…

I was looking at the original deal but was put off that warranty is affected when sticker is removed to apply the thermal pads. Turns out there are models that comes with the heatsink preassembled and looks like it is top and bottom thermally padded (https://www.lexar.com/wp-content/uploads/product_images/NM79…). It will cost you $10 more though than the original.

Mod Update 6/10: In-stock now and comes with a bonus MrBeast Chocolate Bar (2TB & 4TB Model only).


Same price at Mwave without heatsink:

2TB: https://www.mwave.com.au/product/lexar-nm790-2tb-pcie-40-nvm…
4TB: https://www.mwave.com.au/product/lexar-nm790-4tb-pcie-40-nvm…

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  • +3

    I should have waited for this smh

    • +1

      We also have heatsink by itself available to purchase

      • Any 2230 form factor ssds?

        • we don't have enough demands in ANZ region unfortunately

        • Hi Warehouse:

          I had research in the market, seems many new console owner wants a 2230 NVME to upgrade their ROG Ally or Steam Deck.
          So I am going to introduce a small quantity of 2230 high speed NVME in Novemember

      • Is there a 4tb one for sale?

        • Yes there is, we have both 4TB NM790 with or without heatsink arrived in Australia already

          • @Lexar ANZ Chris: Hi Chris, just wondering why everyone who removed the sticker on nm790 get better temperatures. Do you have any explanation for this? Has QA ever tested this?

            https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/14137098/redir

            https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/14368131/redir

            • @pxrnm: Pxrnm thanks for the info.

              Rep has advised that removing the label also voids warranty unless you can do it in a way where it can be restored to the original form

              Bit of a shame as i'm interested in buying the 4tb model for my laptop but still undecided.

            • @pxrnm: Hi pxrnm:

              I will come back to you on this.
              My personal opinion and my own usage experience doesn't support the result that removing a sticker gives better temperature.
              However I have to say my setup is a bit over the top especially on cooling…so my result doesn't apply to most people.
              I will check with our team if I can allow our region to maintain warranty status if logo is removed.

              But regardless
              depending on what devices you are using, it's easier just to use one with heatsink (10 bucks more expensive) or upgrade the system active cooling.

              if it's like a laptop where you can't upgrade cooling, and you can't fit heatsink, I really don't think remove a sticker will help much.

              I understand few people wants to use our SSD and take off the label to fit a third party heatsink of some sort, so I will go check with HQ and try to make some changes.

              But before do anything, just few youtube videos you can have a look:
              (none of them are specifically talking about our products and I am not promoting any channel, this is just through a 2 min google search)

              Should you peel the sticker off your m.2 ssd?
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OixIIhoVAc

              Do stickers and heatsinks matter for NVMe SSDs? PCIe gen 5 drive testing!
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUJKyA-q7Zs

              Should you peel stickers off NVMe drives
              https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K9sc-V7VafA

              • +1

                @Lexar ANZ Chris: Hi Chris, thanks for responding.

                Yes i agree with the youtubers that the stickers are great usually, but I am more concern on the Lexar nm790 in particular since we have claims that they are insulation in nature.
                I guess we just want to confirm if the sticker really helps or actually detrimental to the ssd as per the claims by the other members. So for those who bought the nm790 with the heatsink, should they open it up and peel it off, will lexar change the sticker material in the future etc.

                Looking forward to hear from you on this.

                • +3

                  @pxrnm: Hi Pxrnm:

                  I have checked with RMA team and I have talked to the production team on this matter.
                  Also I have done experiment myself.
                  TLDR:
                  1. you can't remove sticker, that will waive warranty.
                  2. that sticker is not insulation in nature.

                  Longer version.
                  The logo sticker is pretty much industry standard sticker, there are about 150+ model of SSD in the market (not only just Lexar) that we know of using this sticker.

                  The technical part is pretty hard to translate, but here is what AI translation says.
                  The sticker description:
                  "Bright silver PET coated with matte film + 0.25 thermal conductive double-sided adhesive + 0.1 natural graphite sheet (with adhesive), 70mm*18mm, R=0.5mm, ±0.2mm, 522250000_A"

                  The sticker is made of PET, and inside, there is a 0.25mm thermal conductive double-sided adhesive + 0.1mm natural graphite sheet (with adhesive) to aid in heat dissipation.

                  • @Lexar ANZ Chris: Hi Chris thanks for the clarification.

                    Would love to hear your finding with the experiment you did your self, if you don't mind.

                • +1

                  @pxrnm: Anyways, if someone says our sticker is inslation and certain big brands's sticker is not.

                  I am happy to provide the proof that the stickers are made in the same company using same material.

                  I can't say for sure how certain user get the result and conclusion that our sticker is insulation in nature.
                  But from our side, the logo sticker is pretty much the same with almost all of the other brand's sticker.

                  • @Lexar ANZ Chris: Hi Chris, thank you for the clarification. It's always appreciated when the company representative is available to answers questions.

              • @Lexar ANZ Chris: This article on kitguru is interesting https://www.kitguru.net/components/ssd-drives/simon-crisp/le…
                "Lexar's 4TB NM790 drive is built on a single-sided M.2 2280 format. The front of the drive is covered by a label that incorporates a metal foil to help get rid of the heat from the drive but it is very thin, but still, it's better than nothing. The rear of the drive has a standard label."

                • +1

                  @aarick: Hi Aarick:

                  the sticker is industry standard and the same spec is whidely used by many other brands as well.
                  since I launched NM790 in AU, people on ozbargain seems to be very interested in removing them.
                  So I brought in the heatsink version, but people still just want to remove the stickers regardless.

                  All I can say at this point in regards the sticker is that they are just normal industry standard stickers.
                  It's not making the driver hotter, it actually helps the heat dissipation for the drive. it's same sticker made by same mega factory who specialize in making these stickers.
                  If you don't believe in this sticker, the heatsink version is already available.

          • @Lexar ANZ Chris: Hello, is the 4TB without heatsink suitable for a Dell notebook? i.e. Will there be any issues with heat and/or the large capacity that you know?

            • +1

              @mrbean13: Hi Mrbean:

              TLDR no, there is no problem I have heard of.
              Any NVME drive at any capacity should be able to work in normal conditions without failure.

              Heatsink is not active cooling, if you put a ssd with heatsink into the oven, it will still burn. If an SSD is overheating inside a laptop, adding heatsink won't help that much.
              That's why most of the laptops doesn't have space for ssd heatsink, and its original SSD also doesn't usually comes with heatsink, if cooling is needed, laptop will have active cooling fans somewhere to channel cold air through. Adding heatsink won't help much without ample active cooling.

              • @Lexar ANZ Chris: Hi Chris. I just received the NM790 4TB bought from this deal. Installed on my brand new ps5 and formatted. however after formatting the read speed it said on the screen was 6499?!?! Is it not 7400 read speed as advertised?

                • +1

                  @kimhy589: That's not how it works.

                  Just because the drive can theoretically do 7400MB/s doesn't mean your source device or your benchmark of choice can necessarily get it to that figure.

                  It's just a best-case maximum.

                  • @Nom: Does that mean someone else whos lucky could get 7400?

                    • +1

                      @kimhy589: With one particular benchmark in one particular PC, probably.

                      You'd probably have to recreate the setup that Lexar used to come up with that number…

                      They almost certainly didn't use the PS5 benchmark routine to produce the performance numbers 😁

                      • @Nom: Cool. Understood. Then theres also no minimum so that it is considered faulty?

                        • +1

                          @kimhy589: If it was faulty then your data would probably be getting corrupted, the only thing that could really affect performance significantly is excess heat making the drive throttle itself.
                          Don't worry about it, everything is fine 👌

                • @kimhy589: I think Nom explained very well.
                  And also I believe even if you put a even faster drive on your PS5, the result produced will probably similar as well.

                  PS5 is not the only and the best environment to show case NM790's full potential.

                  But then again, personally speaking, I don't think you will feel any difference if you push the speed from 6499 to 7499 when you play games.

                  • +1

                    @Lexar ANZ Chris: Hi Chris, just thought to point out that the removal of the sticker doesn’t void the statutory warranty requirements under Australian Consumer Law. Unless you can prove its removal was the cause of the problem, sticker removal isn’t enough to void warranty requirements.

                    • @BillyG687: Hi BillyG687,

                      if sticker doesn't have any real function, probably I will agree with you.
                      However I have already replied up there, it's actually works as a heatsink, we have full length document on its functionality and why it needs to be there.
                      Also the glue we used are very firm, to remove it you do risk damage the SSD itself.
                      so I would highly advise don't remove the sticker if you want to keep the warranty.

      • Hello, if you're from BPC Tech, I have tried to email you about a problem I have been having with ordering but you never respond… Since then, the price on this seems to have reverted. Is there any way to help me and apply the same pricing as when I tried to purchase?
        Thanks.

        • hi Mr bean,

          unfortunately I am not from BPC tech, but i will email them as well, I work for Lexar and in charge of ANZ operation.

          price increase just started, and it's going to keep going up on weekly basis, and DRAM especially going to be crazy this year.
          I don't know if BPC will honor an old price, but I will get them to respond either way.

  • Hi does anyone know if this will fit in a lenovo yoga c940?

    • -2

      https://www.crucial.com/compatible-upgrade-for/lenovo/yoga-c…

      Appears so - you might need to clone the old one first but Google shows plenty of videos of how to replace ssd in that model

    • +4

      The non-heatsink model will. I doubt the heatsink would fit in a laptop.

      • you could always remove the heatsink, that's what I did with the 980 Pros and the Seagate 530 SSDs, but yeah better to get the non heatsink one if you dont wanna pry them open.

        • Will there be a problem with overheating if you put it in a laptop?

          • +1

            @mrbean13: Not really, since most laptops that have a spare m.2 slot have a thermal pad pre applied to the back of the laptop and it also acts like a heat spreader just as if you were using the heat sink of the ssd. So you should be fine.

            • @thesmartone1125: Thanks for your reply, @thesmartone1125! If you have any insights into speed also, that would be helpful. I currently have a Samsung 980 pro. I believe this one is faster than the Samsung?

  • these any good? the price is super tempting

    • +1

      yea they are good. speed wise is faster then the samsung slightly

      • better than 990 pro?

        • +3

          No, 990 Pro is better. The thing with NM790 is that it is well optimised for tasks and benchmark apps which most people care about. Random read/write latency is its weakness BUT most people don't check that when running CrystalDiskMark. People look at the bandwidth results. Also, the tasks which DRAMless SSDs struggle are not common for most people.

          Right now, el cheapo TLC 2TB or 4TB PCIe gen 3 SSDs are hard to find (with a lot of them now using QLC). Proper PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs with DRAM tend to cost more.

          • +1

            @netsurfer:

            4TB PCIe gen 3 SSDs are hard to find (with a lot of them now using QLC)

            If I use a pcie gen 4 SSD in a pcie gen 3 slot, do I still get the thermal benefits of gen 3 SSD’s?

            • +1

              @povogamer: Good question, I don't know to be honest. Most reviewers don't run that type of test. My "guess" is the PCIe gen 4 SSD running in gen 3 mode will get slightly better thermal, but won't be at the level of a PCIe gen 3 SSD that's known to have great thermal performance. That's a pure guess though. It comes down to how fast that SSD writes in PCIe gen 3 mode and whether that gen 4 SSD is designed to do SLC recovery aggressively.

            • @povogamer: This is what I want to know also, are gen 4's hot in gen 3 slots. Should be tested with reviews as lots of people have gen 3 slots.

          • @netsurfer: Damn. I care less about benchmarks and more about rand r/w.

            Thanks for the info

          • @netsurfer:

            Random read/write latency

            I'm a bit uneducated, would this make it worse or better for playing games off of?

            • +2

              @TeamSAXON: Most games, in general, don't depend a lot on random read/write. The reason is, as good as SSD is compared to hard drives, it pales in comparison to RAM and VRAM. RAM and VRAM's latency is ~1000 times better than SSD. So game developers would put random read/write tasks on RAM and VRAM.

              How much games can benefit from SSd's sequential read fully depends on the game itself and whether it implements DirectStorage API.

              Also, the context is important. Samsung 990 Pro is the one being compared, which is known to have good 4K random read performance. However, in general usage, NM790 is hard to beat. 990 Pro is technically a tier above (but in most general usage, you won't feel the difference), but whether we (most people) can take full advantage is a different story. Again, 990 Pro is still an SSD so it is not going to have random read / write latency at RAM level.

              • @netsurfer:

                However, in general usage, NM790 is hard to beat

                Hmm so it could be a toss up between a 990 pro or nm790 if I'm building a gaming rig without too much noticeable difference?

                • @TeamSAXON: put it this way, you'll hardly notice anything, even if you use a Gen3 SSD. TLDR to your question is you won't see difference if at all.

                  Random R/W will improve general system responsiveness (HDD is especially bad at random r/w) as it will load tons of small files faster. Most application with tons of smaller DLLs will benefit from this.

                  sequential R/W helps when you copy a file, or trying to read/write a single huge file for some reason (like movie rendering).

                  In gaming you'll usually see you load into the lobby faster than others, but you still need to wait for the rest of ppl with potato pc.

                  • @OMGJL:

                    like movie rendering

                    I wonder if rendering out scenes in 3d would come into play, though I suspect not as those functions are really gpu dependant (ie. You can set cycles rendering to gpu in blender)

                  • @OMGJL: Even though this drive's synthetic random write speeds are really bad, the general responsiveness benchmarks are really good. What's happening here? Where exactly is random write used?

                    • @Sopzo: from as far as I know, compile, installation/update of a software, game save(depends on the game), like your drain system, you only notice it when it clogged.

                • @TeamSAXON: If switching to NM790 would lead to having more budget for your GPU, then choose NM790.
                  If budget is not an issue and you really want a top notch PCIe gen 4 x4 SSD, then 990 Pro (do remember to update firmware right away though).

                  • +1

                    @netsurfer: Thanks for the tip. I do have a good budget but I also really have not decided on the gpu. I don't agree with nvidias practices with the 40 series, but radeons lack ray tracing/path tracing and frame gen. sigh I'm still making some crucial decisions.

    • +2

      Good for a game drive.

      • +1

        Over the top for a game drive!

  • +4

    $10 extra for the heatsink, very reasonable.

    • Will it still fit on a normal motherboard - isn’t it a flat connector?

      • +1

        It will but you just wouldnt use the motherboard's included heatsink

  • +3

    I bought two of the 4TBs last week when they had the deal in september for $255. But would def pay for the heatsink version if I need another one haha

  • +1

    Site has crashed already :(

  • This or Adata XPG S70 Blade 2Tb for PS5? The price difference is small, but Adata has cache built in. Might be better/faster than this Lexar?

    • This drive is DRAMless and uses HMB, The ADATA has DRAM, long story short this would still be fine, but the PS5 wont utilise the HMB. Just go for cost really….

      • +3

        PS5 internal SSD is DRAMless too

  • +2

    There is also 1tb with heatsink for $75

  • Got some error:
    Error 503 Backend fetch failed

  • Looka like it doesn't have DRAM. Not sure how good hmb 3.0 is. Just be careful.

    • +1

      The drive benches pretty well according to techpowerup’s review.

  • awesome ssd, working mint in my 2nd PS5

  • +2

    Could be good for replacing my 2TB Crucial P5 Plus in my PS5.

    Crazy that we can get 4TB for PS5 at this price and you're looking at the same or more for 1TB for the XSX. I refus3 to add additional storage to mine until the prices become sane, which will probably be never.

    • +3

      Currently running a 4tb lexar in my ps5. Outstanding performance.

      • +1

        This mn790?

    • +1

      Bought the 2 TB nm790 from mwave and installed in my PS5 with this chunky heatsink I got from Amazon. Works pretty dang well.

      • @zev, whats the link to the heat sink?

        • ElecGear PS5 NVMe SSD Heatsink, EL-P5C Heat Pipe + Solid Aluminum Cooler for Playstation 5 Internal PCIe M.2 NVMe 4.0 Gen4 Gaming Memory, Thermal Pads and Re-Designed SSD Mounting Post Kit https://amzn.asia/d/5d7jHph

          It replaces the M.2 metal cover on the PS5.

  • Coincidentally, i just decided to pull the trigger on the non-heatsink version for my laptop, ahead of all the rumors of TLC prices going back up.

  • If they only sell the heatsink (10-15$ each) I will spend 100 for that. (1 heatsink, rest for beer) cheers

    • +1

      we have the heatsink for sell
      beer wise, my personal favourite is KaiJu! Aftermath (not associated with this brewery)
      best double IPA that I always go back to

      • Can i have the link where you sell the heatsink only?
        Worth to check it out.
        KaiJu IPA is one of my favorite too 🍻🍻🍻

      • Also, if you have been using nm790 for your personal ps5, did you peel off the front label and attached heatsink? Will that void the ssd warranty?
        I purchased 2tb nm790 previously but now my concern if i have to peel of the labeling and add the heatsink that will void the warranty, it is not worth it

        • if you can restore it to the original state it's fine.
          let me talk to our warranty guys back in HQ (currently in public holiday)
          I'll get back to you on the labeling thing

  • DIdn't expect this to work with MacOS given the known Linux troubles, but works a treat at full speed, great drive so far 🤞🏻

    • I was under the impression that macOS doesn't support HMB, but perhaps that's changed. Have the speeds you've been getting align with reviews you've seen?

  • Do I need the heatsink version if I'm just upgrading a laptop?

    • +2

      I don’t think it will fit with the heatsink.

  • Thanks perfect timing since I need more hdd space for PS5 with all the upcoming games

    • Inwouldnt use this in an enclosure, dont think HMB works over USB, so it would not work very well since it is has no dram and relies on system ram through HMB.

      • Would you happen to know if HMB works when using a PCI-E to NVME adapter? Or does it depend on the adapter perhaps? Unfortunately I can't remember the brand or type of the adapter that I have, and can't check it now, but it was some cheapo anyway. And how much of a difference would HMB even make, if using this drive just for some quick photo and video storage, so fairly big individual files.

    • Hi overlook:

      I have a really good deal on Fast 1TB externals coming up in Costco soon.
      No point putting an NVME into an exlcosure and waste all the performance.

      • costco???

        also after 4tb ssd tbh..

        • 4TB it's cheaper to get some cheap gen 3 drives, you not going to utilize the full speed anyways

    • External case is only good for the older drives.
      NVME M.2 are fast, but you will lose all of that speed (at least half) if you put it in a case.

  • +4

    Hi Guys:

    I was going to make this heatsink model available during PAX and make a big deal of it.
    However stock already in Australia, so I guess better start selling.
    NZ will have to check with PB tech, and better be quick because we are going to lift up price soon.

    During original NM790 promo, some say there is a price drop in Q3 according to experts, and I have told everyone from my side the story is quite the opposite.
    So now it seems I win, guess my info is more accurate than some hardware magazine experts.

    in Q4 - Q1 2024, SSD and Dram pricing is going to sky rocket.
    So far Australia is sitting on good amount of stock from last quarter, so right now no one willing to be the first to lift up price, everyone is on a standstill.
    If you want to buy any brand (not just Lexar), I would advise just buy now.
    Alternatively if you willing to wait, you can gamble on black friday and hope price would be slightly better (I don't think it will).
    Brands will throw money to clean up stock on hand, but even if they do that, many distributors won't place big orders on Decemebr anyway, so…we will see what's happenning to the dollars and market.

    in Q3 I cannot tell people about Huawei's new phone and they took pretty much all YMTC's resources.

    Now if you are not aware, this mate60 phone from Huawei is not just a new phone, it's a big national achivement, it will wipe out a huge amount of available resources in China. Directly driving the prices upwards. And it's going to last for a while.

    overall, prices are going to increase.
    It's painful for people who work for the brands (ie. myself)
    but I will do my best to hold the price down in ANZ market.

    PS.
    hope you guys will go to PAX this year, we will have products available in PAX.

    • Better to sell out 100,000s at $120 then sell 10,000 at $140. Get the money in the bank and go nuts on discounting, we all like a deal here. YMTC chips were literally thrown for free few months back with 2TB NVMe drives for less than US $50 in wholesales 10k nos

      Also last time people double dipped with $10 Budget PC newsletter discount and $10 Afterpay offer or got via ebay with the Afterpay 15% discount to get it for $109 or thereabouts for the 2TB model without heatsink. $99 for 2TB and $199 for 4TB for DRAMless NVMe Gen 4 TLC is where the volumes will come, I am sure it will come this Black Friday (of course after dipping into coupons + cashback)

      • well that depends on the cost of the goods.

    • Thanks for your insights.
      Other than SSD and Ram, anything else that will skyrocket next year?

      Thanks

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