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$1,500, $3,000 or $5,000 Cashback on MG Cars: e.g. MG3 Auto Core $18,990, MG ZS $22,990 (Standard Trim, Driveaway) @ MG Dealers

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$1,500, $3,000 or $5,000 Cashback on MG Cars: e.g. MG3 Auto Core $18,990, MG ZS $22,990 (Standard Trim, Driveaway) @ MG Dealers
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spychiatrist on 06/10/2023 - 22:42 mgmotor.com.au (8845 clicks)
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Cheap, cheap!

Title price adjusted. Do not include cashback amount in the title price — Mod.

$5,000 Cashback redeemed at purchase as a deduction from the advertised state-based Manufacturer’s Recommended Driveaway Price (MRDP) on MG ZS EV Long Range MY23 model. MG participating dealers only, while stocks last, offers valid for vehicles sold & delivered between 1/10/2023 & 31/10/2023. Not available to fleet, government, or rental buyers, hire car, chauffeur buyers, or with any other offers. MG Australia reserves the right to modify or extend these offers.

$3,000 Cashback and 3 Years Free Scheduled Service is available at participating MG dealers on MG HS Plus EV MY22 model new stock vehicles and MG HS Excite MY22, MG HS Essence MY22 and MG HS Essence X 2.0T AWD MY22 model new stock vehicles purchased and delivered between 1/10/2023 & 31/10/2023. While stock lasts. $3,000 Cashback will be applied at the point of sale as a deduction from the purchase price but is not otherwise redeemable for cash. Not available to fleet, government, or rental buyers, hire car, chauffeur buyers, or with any other offers. MG Australia reserves the right to modify or extend these offers. Scheduled Servicing T&Cs at www.mgmotor.com.au/owners/mg-service/

$1,500 Cashback is available at participating MG dealers on MG MG3 MY22 new stock vehicles, MG ZS MY22 new stock vehicles and MG ZST MY22 new stock vehicles purchased and delivered between 1/10/2023 & 31/10/2023. While stock lasts. $1,500 Cashback will be applied at the point of sale as a deduction from the purchase price but is not otherwise redeemable for cash. Not available to fleet, government, or rental buyers, hire car, chauffeur buyers, or with any other offers. MG Australia reserves the right to modify or extend these offers.

Below prices before cashback:

a. $18,990 is the driveaway price for the MG3 Core MY22 model without any options.
b. $19,490 is the driveaway price for the MG3 Core including SAT NAV MY22 model without any options.
c. $19,990 is the driveaway price for the MG3 Excite MY22 model without any options.
d. $22,990 is the driveaway price for the MG ZS Excite MY22 model without any options.
e. $25,990 is the driveaway price for the MG ZST Core MY22 model without any options.
f. $27,990 is the driveaway price for the MG ZST Vibe MY22 model without any options.
g. $31,990 is the driveaway price for the MG ZST Excite MY22 model without any options.
h. $33,990 is the driveaway price for the MG ZST Essence MY22 model without any options.
j. $34,990 is the driveaway price for the MG HS Excite MY22 model with without any options.
k. $37,990 is the driveaway price for the MG HS Essence MY22 model without any options.
l. $41,990 is the driveaway price for the MG HS Essence X 2.0T AWD MY22 model without any options.
m. $47,990 is the total driveaway price for the MG HS Plus EV Excite MY22 model with metallic paint option.
n. $50,990 is the total driveaway price for the MG HS Plus EV Essence MY22 model with metallic paint option.

a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, j, k, l, m, n Driveaway price includes 12 months registration and compulsory third-party insurance cover. Offers available at participating MG Dealers for new stock vehicles only, sold and delivered between 01 October 2023 to 31 October 2023 while stock lasts. Excludes, fleet, government, or rental buyers, or with any other offers.

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      • salin on 07/10/2023 - 11:27
        +1

        Made in China MG is way more better than made in UK crap.

        • Techie4066 on 07/10/2023 - 15:11

          Really? The remaining non-luxury cars that the UK produce are fine. Nissan Qashqai and Nissan Juke (we import these), Toyota Corolla and PSA vans.

      • Drakesy on 07/10/2023 - 16:39

        So are Teslas…
        And you find me a VW or Audi that doesn't turn to a electronical/mechanical turd after 10 years

  • timirasu on 06/10/2023 - 23:03
    +3

    MG is a cheap throw away car. use it when its new and after a few years its worth nothing. dont expect to get much for it when you go to sell it in the future. these cars have bugs in their software so get ready for trips to the dealer to do warranty claims during the time having it.

    • PainToad on 06/10/2023 - 23:09
      +1

      use it when its new and after a few years

      I think you’re being a bit optimistic there.

    • ifonlyiwasyounger on 06/10/2023 - 23:16

      What is MG's best-before date?

      • PainToad on 06/10/2023 - 23:24
        +8

        To calculate: today - 1

  • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2023 - 23:06
    +3

    Folks buying new expensive cars, phones, tablets and then crying here-> https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/803050

  • stripe on 06/10/2023 - 23:13
    +6

    Don't forget that is is no longer a British brand but now a Chinese government state-owned enterprise. Better to buy from a Japanese or Korean company to not support a regime that works tirelessly to undermine the country that you live in.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 06/10/2023 - 23:17
      +13

      We do the same for as long as we follow the US, the day we stop following the US, watch the media turn like no tomorrow

      • 1st-Amendment on 07/10/2023 - 09:59
        +3

        We do the same for as long as we follow the US

        Given the choice of Chinese or American vassal state I know which team I choose

    • Nedkellyinthebush on 06/10/2023 - 23:18
      -4

      China numba one!

    • Cheapskate Paul on 06/10/2023 - 23:48
      +20

      Japan is the only country that has ever bombed Australia.

      • Franc-T on 07/10/2023 - 10:23
        +5

        And the UK is the only country to successfully invade.

        Not sure how either is relevant

    • cooldog on 06/10/2023 - 23:51

      But CCP paid our Medicare and Centrelink.

    • duodeta on 07/10/2023 - 00:13

      Buy Aussie made cars!

      • Ekoz on 07/10/2023 - 05:26
        +4

        🤣🤣

    • Sinnerator on 07/10/2023 - 08:29
      +3

      also most Jap car brands are miles ahead in QC and reliability

    • kamoy on 07/10/2023 - 09:19

      oh well you are properly
      correct but you are on wrong website ..price over ideology

    • colt75 on 07/10/2023 - 09:37
      -1

      As you post from your Chinese made device lol

      • PainToad on 07/10/2023 - 10:04

        But probably built based on US R&D to US standards.

        Who follows the assembly instructions isn’t as important as who designed the product.

  • Aerith-Waifu on 06/10/2023 - 23:13
    +1

    My dad just bought a MG4, no cashback for that one I am afraid…..

    • choofa on 07/10/2023 - 00:03
      +1

      Great value EV though. Good choice

    • ialam99 on 07/10/2023 - 07:57

      The MG4 has got really good reviews in europe so keen to test drive one very soon.

      The only issue is I bought a new car just a year ago and still flat broke paying that one off.

      • Nuggets on 07/10/2023 - 09:11
        +4

        Suggest you shouldn’t be test driving any new cars then…

      • 1st-Amendment on 07/10/2023 - 10:03
        -7

        The MG4 has got really good reviews in…

        By whom? Media is so corrupt these days I wouldn't trust anything they say.
        I took a look with my own eyes and it looked like cheap junk, so no media astro-turfing is changing my own observations

        • Aerith-Waifu on 07/10/2023 - 14:39
          +5

          You my friend, has been brain washed by the Trump administrations

          • 1st-Amendment on 07/10/2023 - 18:31
            -3

            @Aerith-Waifu:

            You my friend, has been brain washed by…

            Yet here you are… not offering anything of value other than 'the media said so'.
            Do you even know what the term 'brain washed' means?

  • Jayblesz on 06/10/2023 - 23:20
    +11

    MGs are garbage.

    • netjock on 07/10/2023 - 00:02
      +11

      But it is My Garbage

      • PopCounty on 31/10/2023 - 09:20

        Sorry, thought it was Mega Garbage 😔

  • Robin2012 on 06/10/2023 - 23:20

    Good price

  • Phlume on 06/10/2023 - 23:22
    +5

    Any long-term owner of MG vehicles care to comment on any positive and negatives of their vehicle ownership? Have noticed a lot more of them on the road and was wondering if their increase in popularity was due to quality or the affordable price point.

    • PainToad on 06/10/2023 - 23:26
      +7

      wondering if their increase in popularity was due to quality or the affordable price point.

      Ignorance would be the main reason.

      • Sinnerator on 07/10/2023 - 08:30
        +1

        followed by affordability

    • LowRange on 07/10/2023 - 01:01
      +27

      Yes, coming on 2 years in a ZST Excite. I had a relay go, they replaced it under warranty with a better one no question as it was in a service bulletin. Otherwise no issues, i bought the car purely as a "whitegoods mode of transport, not a love affair" due to the 7yr unlimited km warranty to tie me over 4-5 years and go electric.

      I'm actually quite impressed with the car, great tech and safety features for the money and have no regrets. And before people say clueless yada yada, i've swapped engines on cars, owned classics, hotrods, tuned triple SU carbies, modded 4wd's etc and owned over probably 50 cars.

      The MG3 however is pretty bare bones and probably lacking a bit in performance and features for me personally, but the price reflects that.

      • npnp on 07/10/2023 - 01:30
        +16

        I am a Japanese car man personally but the amount of clueless hatred towards MG/ Chinese/ Indian brands here in OZB is amazing (for example, people who's never driven an MG would still upvote a 'hate' comment just because the car is cheap and Chinese). I've driven an MG once and didn't like the car but when you put the price into the equation I couldn't complain really.

        • Sinnerator on 07/10/2023 - 08:31
          -4

          every tradie who has ever owned any indian car/van has always had horrible things to say about them, and sworn off them

        • LowRange on 08/10/2023 - 02:11

          Yeah i also like Japanese vehicles. Besides the MG i have a Prado, and i've done a lot of work on it and it really is a dream to work on. The Toyota parts network is fantastic, the parts are generally high quality and things just fit like a glove. I've got the Toyota dealer software (TechStream) so i can do everything myself.

          The MG is built to a price, and may not have the top shelf components like a car 2x it's price but imho it's designed and engineered quite well when you dig in to the mechanical and electrical system. But yes there's the clueless who's mates friend drove a bottom of the barrel MG3 who didn't like it, so therefore the whole brand is no good despite the ZST and HS/HS EV's being great given the 7yr warranty and very competitive pricing.

      • Franc-T on 07/10/2023 - 10:24

        wot? Owned over 50 cars?

        • LowRange on 08/10/2023 - 01:48

          Yes, that's a conservative estimate. Back before the internet really kicked off, i used to buy cars in Sydney through the Trading Post newspaper mostly VB to VL Commodores but anything really from Ford Escort panel vans to Mitsubishi Scorpions, Pintaras etc.

          Bring them home 3 hrs from Sydney and paint for sale and my ph number on the back window. Then just drive them around, to work, shopping etc and flip them for a profit. Some i just needed to detail, some i'd buy needing repairs and put new gearboxes, head gaskets etc. Last car i sold recently was an immaculate 500hp VK Commodore with TH400 and 9" diff, and my VE Redline to downsize to just 2 cars. So yeah the number of cars has racked up over the years.

    • jackary on 07/10/2023 - 02:39
      +24

      I own - well, owned (I’ve just sold it) an MG ZS which I bought brand new, for $22,990, in January.

      It was a fine car, as long as you go into it knowing what you’re getting. It has 84kw of power, a 4 speed auto, and weighs ~1.2T. It’s slow, and just from an “engineering” perspective, it’s all pretty old hat technology. Some may see this as a pro, rather than a con.

      The pleather seats were great but very hot in summer. Despite what a lot of people are saying here, I had no issues with electronics or the infotainment system. And I’m in and out of the car 5-6 times a day, every day. Stereo was weirdly good for a cheap car.

      Average fuel consumption was 8.5L/100km over ~15,000km.

      I had a couple of build issues and unfortunately Motorama (my closest MG dealer) were incredibly reluctant to help, to the point that there were still problems at the time I sold the car. This was probably the main reason I sold the car. I can’t answer whether my experience would have been better had I gone to the MG dealership direct (on the other side of town to me), but I was left with very little confidence that the warranty actually stood for anything by the end of it.

      I can understand why they’re such big sellers - both the ZS and the MG3… it’s a lot of motoring for what you pay. For a lot of prospective owners, they’re moving from a much older car. Are these the final word in safety? Probably not, but they’re a lot better than what most had before.

      I ultimately sold a 9 month old car with just under 15,000km on it for a LOT less than I paid. Yes yes you always lose money on a new car, but 35% in such a short amount of time truly blew my mind. And this was privately. I sold it because of the build issues, and because I like “interesting” cars. Despite this being a very sensible choice for my current life situation, I just never bonded with it. It’s a very hard to quantify thing.

      The MG4 seems to be a totally different beast.

      Happy to answer questions if anyone has any, I’ve waffled on long enough 🤡

      • cloudy on 07/10/2023 - 08:45
        -1

        Yes yes you always lose money on a new car, but 35% in such a short amount of time truly blew my mind

        What did you pay for it new?

        • jackary on 07/10/2023 - 09:39
          +4

          $22,990. Sold it for $15,500.

          • cloudy on 07/10/2023 - 09:45
            +1

            @jackary: Looking at carsales I can’t find a 2023 or 2022 MG ZS for anything close to the price you sold. Closest is around 19k

            • jackary on 07/10/2023 - 10:04
              +5

              @cloudy: Some of the offers I got at trade were pretty insulting. What I got privately was about the best I was going to get. I think I know what you’re hinting at, but the price I got was realistic. The market is flooded with them, and now you can buy a new one for 21.5k. They may be listed for 19, but that’s not what they’re actually selling for. Look at how long some of them have been up for sale.

              I promise, I’m not happy about it lol

              • Brick Tamland on 07/10/2023 - 10:49
                +2

                @jackary: I think thats the hidden cost with these type of cars. They seem cheap to buy but then it costs quite a bit of money when you sell it because of the higher depreciation.

              • cloudy on 07/10/2023 - 12:32
                +1

                @jackary: Thanks for sharing, I appreciate it :)

            • 1st-Amendment on 07/10/2023 - 10:05
              +1

              @cloudy:

              Closest is around 19k

              Advertised price != selling price

            • dealhunter52 on 07/10/2023 - 10:32
              +3

              @cloudy: You only see the listings on carsales that haven't been sold because asking price is stupid. Fairly priced cars get snapped up quickly and you won't see those listings for too long.

              • cloudy on 07/10/2023 - 12:31
                +1

                @dealhunter52: I dont disagree, but realistically, if 19.5k (the lowest price) is what i see i expect i can buy/sell it for 17k fairly easily.

                Selling for 15.5k is about 4.5k under the average low price, that discount seems rather large IMHO

                • 1st-Amendment on 07/10/2023 - 12:47

                  @cloudy:

                  what i see i expect i can buy/sell it for

                  Any item is only worth what someone else is willing to pay.

                • jackary on 13/10/2023 - 23:53
                  +2

                  @cloudy: Please excuse my belated reply!

                  I promise you, it wasn’t easy. Probably the most frustrating selling experience I’ve gone through. I had about 8 people come and look, and all low balled the living shit out of me. I need to clarify here, the car was immaculate.

                  The dealership I bought it from didn’t want it, the usual sites (carsales instant offer etc) offered around 14, I really, really did my legwork on this one, because I truly was in the same mindset as you on this - how can an almost brand new car be worth that much less such a short time later?

                  If I really held out, maybe I would’ve gotten 16… but after wasting weekend after weekend with tyre kickers, I’d just had enough. Probably not on carsales, but there’s a couple of MY22 ZS models in my area on FB marketplace for similar money to what I sold for. It’s an unknown quantity to a lot of people, and that’s reflected in the resale value.

      • chav on 07/10/2023 - 09:25
        +1

        Thanks for taking the time to write this.

    • samcro on 07/10/2023 - 17:41
      +4

      I've got an mg zst excite 2021 model. I didn't buy new and its got 50,000 km on the clock. No issues so far. Don't forget 7 year warranty so still 5 years ish left. Very happy with mine.

  • justgooddeals on 06/10/2023 - 23:24
    +5

    Their cheap and good enough. That’s all most people care about.

    Where else can you get an SUV, with 7 year warranty, drive away for just over $20k?

    No where.

    That’s why their Australia’s fastest growing car company

    • Buy2Much on 07/10/2023 - 00:13

      That’s why their Australia’s fastest growing car company

      Where did you get the stat from? According to this, it is Tesla.

      • justgooddeals on 07/10/2023 - 00:23

        By light cars. Saw it on poster at stealership. Talking about MG3

        • placard on 08/10/2023 - 09:49

          Probably because the rental car companies have bought a whole heap because they are cheap. Wait until they all crap themselves prematurely and the rental car companies will go back to Toyota or Mitsubishis.

          The ASX was a very popular car too, but probably predominantly bought by rental car companies.

    • immrnonamehello on 07/10/2023 - 02:02
      +4

      They're

  • abetastic on 06/10/2023 - 23:25

    Can you buy using a novated lease for this?

    • Undies1984 on 06/10/2023 - 23:43

      Yes, you can.
      If you go for the PHEV's there's huge tax exemptions at the moment too, so you'll end up saving a lot of money doing a novated lease.

      • choofa on 07/10/2023 - 00:03

        Don’t buy a PHEV buy the mg4

    • chrisburnett on 07/10/2023 - 00:06
      +1

      Yes you can and I have. The EV is FBT exempt and that makes it around half the price of a Mazda 3 petrol car to have on a novated lease. Bargain!

  • hopper on 06/10/2023 - 23:27
    +1

    Can i put a tesla logo on top of MG3 core?

    • Jenbrook on 07/10/2023 - 00:03
      +2

      Yuck, why would you want to do that? Tesla’s are are cheap shit at a luxury price.

    • U30004 on 07/10/2023 - 00:11
      +1

      Why not a rolls Royce logo?

      • hopper on 07/10/2023 - 05:13

        Easy to pluck unlike difficult to peel

  • sunnyc on 06/10/2023 - 23:27

    I drove a mg from melbourne to sydney, not worth the risk but the mg4 if it was 5k cashback, i'd jump thegun

    • MKBHD on 06/10/2023 - 23:48

      You can get $6k cashback in QLD for it

      • mr_asstight on 06/10/2023 - 23:57

        How and why?

      • sunnyc on 06/10/2023 - 23:57

        like a rebate or cashback?

        • MKBHD on 07/10/2023 - 02:12

          Rebate

  • Brrrrt on 06/10/2023 - 23:59
    +12

    They are sold for the $ they are worth. I dont know why people want to compare them to cars not remotely on the same price range.

    MG did get bought out by China, but its for better or worse from SAIC - which is one of the two VW partners in China (SAIC Volkswagen), they arent just some rando no name that popped up from nowhere.

    I definitely wouldnt hold it up to anywhere the standard old MGs might have had, but I also dont think its any lesser quality than low end Korean and Indian makers - if anything I trust them more - they did inherit/stole/bought/learnt quite a bit of stuff from VW during their 30 year long and ongoing joint venture, after all.

    Besides, 7 year free warranty and all that? Yeah for your budget minded buyer this is a good deal.

    • LowRange on 07/10/2023 - 01:12
      +2

      Yeah exactly, the old MG was getting passed around like a red headed step child and nobody wanted it. They literally begged SAIC to buy the company, they did and bought it back from ruins and kept the UK plant and jobs for about a decade. Sure it's not the racing pedigree of the olden day MG but they have breathed life back in to an otherwise dead brand.

  • chrisburnett on 07/10/2023 - 00:01
    +7

    I’ve got the ZS EV and it’s a great car to drive. Smooth and powerful. The build quality is first rate, regardless of what the naysayers are banging on about. The minor issues I’ve had with it were sorted quickly by the dealership and I couldn’t be happier. I’ve had less issues with this than I’ve had with any new car, and I’ve had some expensive ones.

    7 year warranty will take care of anything that may go wrong and I have every faith in the dealership after the couple of dealings I’ve had with them.

    I’ve had some people say that they’ll be worth nothing in five years because it’ll need a new battery. I expect the battery will last in excess of 15 years. I’d be more concerned buying a petrol car and that being worthless in five years when petrol is even dearer and being phased out.

    • adrianhughes1998 on 07/10/2023 - 00:42
      -4

      15 years for a battery um ok.

      Yeah the uptake of EVs is still glacial and the resources needed to say make enough EVs is finite. Plus to get the millions of petrol cars off the roads at the current uptake, is going to take years and years and years. So no they won't be worthless not for a long time.

    • watwatwat on 07/10/2023 - 02:26
      +2

      I have every faith
      build quality is first rate

      Very funny. I assume you also have the same confidence in the excellent engineering and QA coming out of aliexpress and temu purchases.

    • Franc-T on 07/10/2023 - 10:29
      +1

      Smooth and powerful.

      You sure about the powerful bit?

      • chrisburnett on 08/10/2023 - 02:53
        -1

        Have you driven a ZS EV? It is fast and powerful. Very much so and I’m quite sure. The only thing stopping it going faster is the wheels spinning if you floor it, even at 40km/h.

    • Ademos on 07/10/2023 - 22:04

      If you think its first rate you drove nothing else. Including oh….haval.

  • beltdrive on 07/10/2023 - 00:06
    +9

    I’d just cough up extra money and get a Kia Picanto tbh

    • Ademos on 07/10/2023 - 22:04
      +1

      Shockingly good car. Hired one via goget the other day just to check it out. Suspension is lovely.

  • timli on 07/10/2023 - 00:08
    +8

    Driving the MG ZS for a road trip around Tasmania; it does the job but would definitely not recommend it as a daily drive. Glad I don't own one, for the price I'd rather look at used cars…

    • Safoan on 07/10/2023 - 11:14
      +2

      Why would you not recommend it as a daily driver. Could you please elaborate your experience.

  • Make it so on 07/10/2023 - 00:27
    +3

    For what it's worth, I was a passenger in an MG ZS a few days ago overseas ('Grab' rideshare). I saw the odometer reading was 205,000km, and it was still driving very smoothly. I reckon this is a good deal.

    • Murpha on 07/10/2023 - 08:57

      Yeah, but how much work had been done to it to get there?

      • Make it so on 07/10/2023 - 11:17
        +1

        Fair point, but frankly I found it heartening it got there at all!
        This was Thailand, so not sure how much money people put into car maintenance.

  • Anthrox on 07/10/2023 - 00:30
    +2

    i was in a uber the other day and they guy wasnt overly happy with his was making a noise in the front passenger side, also told me one of his mates also got one was driving it up the Adelaide hills and the engine blew up at 10,000km they replace it but still he said he paid around 23k for his

    • jackspratt on 07/10/2023 - 01:30
      +4

      Were you in the front passenger seat?

  • id on 07/10/2023 - 00:37
    +7

    gosh. spent 6 days driving with it around cairns after rental car pushed to highly recommend it to us. underpowered, weird gear changes, felt cheap, just an unpleasant driving experience!!!

  • shortgum on 07/10/2023 - 00:40

    this is really good price. I know someone using zs excite right now and almost daily use overall happy with it. only issue is 1.5L small horsepower. not as good when up ramp or fast acceleration. but this price nowadays

  • sauce2k on 07/10/2023 - 00:41
    +6

    Drove MG suv when I hired a car, fken worst lol

    • samcro on 07/10/2023 - 17:55
      +1

      I hired an MG HS on a trip. Absolutely loved it. So, there you go, everyone's different.

  • ayyKwillen on 07/10/2023 - 00:54
    +7

    horrible cars

  • TheMindsetTraveller on 07/10/2023 - 00:57
    +2

    A MY22 MG is probably safer than a MY12 whatever small car

    • Brick Tamland on 07/10/2023 - 10:51
      -2

      I would definitely feel safer in my 2012 VE SSV Commodore wagon than any 2022 MG

      • LowRange on 08/10/2023 - 02:40
        +1

        Ok i have an MG ZST, i owned a 2012 VE SSV Redline for 10 years which i bought new. I've also been an accredited road crash rescue operator since the late 90's and lost count of the people i've extricated from wrecks.

        I feel safer driving the MG with the 360 degree cameras, blind spot detection, adaptive cruise, forward collision warning, lane assist, rear cross traffic alert, auto emergency braking, speed sign assist. So MG for the win in minimizing the chance of accident. But if an accident were to occur, i'd rather be in the VE due to the better air bags, good seat belt pre-tensioners, ride down steering column and break away pedal system to prevent lower leg injury. This is a major issue people aren't aware of, we even have dedicated pedal cutters to free lower legs in no break away pedals.

        So yeah, that's just my thoughts on this and it's comparing a large sedan to a small/mid size.

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