Tesla got another price drop this Monday and those Model 3 are in stock at the moment. If you don't want to wait for the new 2024 version and wish to take the price benefit + government rebate, then give it a go.
The NSW EV stamp duty free and rebate will end by the end of this year. So, if you are looking for those benefits then must be quick.
Byd Seal Dynamic
Pending on test drive but I'd be going for BYD Premium for similar price and much better specs. The only thing the T3 does better is the boot space which can carry all the stuff I need and the Seal is a bit too small.
Damn, already bought a train, which I could also afford.
Model train?
No, Sushi
This made me chuckle haha
Lol the BYD seal already got them running to put the price down…
SEAL is a compelling car but unproven track record. Time will tell whether that structural battery will literally fall out of the car within 7 years.
would you really be considering this generation's BYD SEAL in 7 years?? or probably any car currently on the market for that matter
Dunno I can easily sell my CRV 2011 for 10k although it has done about 200k now. Some people do buy 7 year old cars.
You can't order this M3 on the tesla website anymore - they're clearing through inventory stock as the new model is already launched and estimated to land in Q1 next year.
Relax mate. Its old inventory stock. Jesus.
Its old inventory stock.
Which raises the question, why is there so much old stock lying around? Have we reached the peak of the first wave of novelty buyers?
Can't find figures for Aus, but for US the average time to sell a new vehicle is 50 days for ICE and 100 days for EV. And they have much better charging infrastructure there which is one of the main concerns of buyers.
These things used to sell like hot cakes and had wait lists months long, so the demand curve seems to have reached a peak.
The F150 is the best selling car in the US from memory, so that doesn't really tell us much. Also, half the population in the US would prefer to cut of their nose instead of supporting something that could be seen as being good for the environment.
So that doesn't really tell us much.
It does if you look at sales trends. Tesla's used to have a months long wait list, now they don't, they're sit around waiting for buyers. Only a fanboy would try to pass this off as anything but what it is, a demand slump.
And the fact that Tesla's in Australia are also sitting around waiting to be sold at discount should indicate the same thing
supporting something that could be seen as being good for the environment.
Seen as good or is good? Feel free to show how many units of environment Teslas have saved so far. I'm genuinely interested to know what this actually is.
Comes with free turn indicators too
That actually makes it an incentive to buy the old model. It's idiotic that useful features keep getting removed such as the adaptive cruise control radar sensor and ultrasonic sensors for the reverse camera.
They are following Apple eco system. Soon the car will be able to be charged using a USB-C cable…
Only if the EU makes them
Is that true!?
Adaptive cruise control was the biggest improvement in my life since dishwasher.
They still have it but the tech is different. From what I've seen they have removed the radar sensors and are relying on cameras only for the adaptive cruise control. Not an expert but I feel that radar would work better in adverse weather conditions.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36542541/tesla-model-3-mo…
@Caped Baldy: The model 3s and Ys in Australia still come with USS sensors. Not sure about the upcoming Highland model.
Adaptive Cruise Control is "Basic Auto Pilot" and has not been removed.
Phantom breaking FTW. You only have to experience it once and it will cause mild post traumatic stress disorder for your passengers for free.
No good if you're upgrading from BMW
and a stalk for wipers I think. TWO STALKS FOR THE PRICE OF NONE.
The 2024 new model 3 will be much more expensive Id suppose?
not when BYD seal starts under 50k
and comes with indicator stalks
And gear shifter
The entry level seal is not comparable to the entry level M3.
I guess this proves the marketing is already working with their pricing strategy.
In what ways ?
$62k plus on roads. So $7k more. Has many upgrades over the outgoing model though
NSW, if you order next year, it cost around $67k. Cheap buy Tesla days will end very soon.
cries in 2020 model
With the new cars of other mid-range brands, or even 2nd hand ones, i reckon this is a bargain.
And petrol hovering around $2.50 a litre.
And petrol hovering around $2.50 a litre.
By $2:50 do you mean $1.80?
Electricity prices are rising faster than petrol and that will only get worse as our dumb governments purposefully reduce supply.
I agree especially if you are in the market for M3.
I prefer the M2
2019 Tesla is about 47K, wonder how much more the used market will drop.
Hoping a fair bit once the Model 3 refresh arrives (sorry current Model 3 owners).
Early this year the RRP for M3’s was some $9000 higher. Those owners are already losing when it comes to resale.
Used teslas are going to be completely worthless once the EV market ramps up
They were way over priced used. Its not like a used petrol car which can last 30 years. 10 years for an EV and you need to fork out $15k to replace the batteries.
I'd say it will be 30k including exorbitant labour costs in Australia.
a used petrol car which can last 30 years
Ah yes, petrol cars always last 30 years, it's definitely not well under 1% that last so long
10 years for an EV and you need to fork out $15k to replace the batteries
Yeah sure pal, as soon as my decade old car can only get 80% charge, I'll throw it straight in the bin. Nobody wants a car that can't go Sydney to Brisbane on a single charge…
https://www.energysage.com/electric-vehicles/how-long-do-tes…
https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/how-long-do-tesla-batt…
🙄
I don't think any car lasts 30 years. Petrol is easily last 15 years though. My CRV 2011 is 200k now. No probs.
can last 30 years
always last 30 years
See if you can work out where you went wrong here…
Can attest to this. Still drive a 97 Honda prelude around, thing is a workhorse. My 2007 Honda S2000 also going strong. But I think the 30 year argument is more likely applicable to reliable brands like Toyota and Honda that are regularly serviced.
By regular service, all that's really required is oil change and filter.
I reckon both petrol and EV prices will be unpredictable in the next 10 years. Petrol could go obsolete. EV batteries will fall apart requiring replacement which will be hellla expensive; especially in Australia.
It's quite an uncertain time to buy a car if you plan to keep it for a while.
Best buy currently is a Tesla M3 (this deal). Keep it only for 4 years and flog it. Make sure you drive it like you stole it and constantly super charge it/park it outdoors in winter/summer etc etc. No one will know that you ruined the battery until it's too late.
Used teslas are going to be completely worthless once the EV market ramps up
I've got my landfill business ready and waiting. Green power!
Actually a new industry will probably pop up in the next 7 years when these batteries start to fail. Maybe some of these batteries can be used at home for home batteries. Not sure about fire risk though.
apparently the batteries are lasting longer than they thought
@Geoff-bargain: Lets wait and see. I don't really want to believe a tweet from Tesla owner.
I don't think Tesla has discovered new Physics. All batteries degrade and will do so fast if there is environmental fluctutations such as extreme heat or cold. IE normal use.
Tesla iPhone
Byd android
more like
Byd huawei
Holden Nokia
that would be fairphone
holden is more battered htc one
hmm hwhich chinese EV to buy
Tesla
Volvo
Polestar
Does any EV have a range of 700+km yet?
Yes I think Merc EQS $360k. But you will have to line up at silly little public charging. But then, if you can afford this car, you'd get your driver to worry about that or any longer trips take your private plane.
Just plan your long trips and read a book or something while it charges or waiting for a charger. Or take a big poo.
Yeah, all long trips literally becomes a trip from one charger to another charger; that is all you will ever care about.
The kicker is that the real range = 80% WLTP range. In long trips this is again 80% of Real range because you can only charge to 80% realistically without wasting a whole hour.
On long trips, I reckon that's even worse with real range likely to be 80% of EPA (not even WLPT) range.
Exactly, who wants to get to their destination quickly anyways?? We should all be taking our time and reading books instead of getting where you going.
You'd fly there if you wanted to get there quickly.
Yeah same here. When I go on a trip, I want to spend as MUCH time on a charger as possible. :) When I get to the destination, the most important thing for me is to find a charger and hope it's working. Or run extension cables from my Air BNB….. This is the way.
After all this, you'd forget why you travelled in the first place.
I hope not. What a waste of resources that would be.
Would be so much more efficient (from a whole of economy perspective) to make sure the charging infrastructure is up to scratch.
There are very few scenarios where a 45 minute break every 300 or 400km isn't a good thing…
Depends on whether new physics or a whole new type of battery is invented though. There is not much chance that you can do 400km on one go without getting chest pains from range anxiety. WLTP and real range are quite different. If you run of charge, then you have to tow rather than chuck some fuel in a go again.
You don’t carry a petrol generator in your Tesla?!! It’s like carrying a spare tyre man. Gotta do it.
hwhen the so-called self driving cars can self-drive then that is less necessary
Yes, takes 2 days for a full charge though.
How many countryside AirBnBs going to have a 350 kW charger?
@Stivo: Nil. Finding a 350kw anywhere in Australia will be a challenge. In the future maybe. Just not now.
TBH if you own the EQS this will not matter to you.
Not bad at all. It's rare to see price drops on cars these days so thumbs up from me.
These were priced very high n now they are reducing to meeting the end of year delivery commitments n also BYD seal.
Maybe. I am glad the seal is here.
Nice, just gotta get 11152 Boost SIM cards and I can get this for free!1
that's also be >11152 free meals - keep going!
Note this is NSW every where else isn't this cheap NSW for some reason is the cheapest state to buy evs.
What’s the difference between current model 3 and 2024? Asking for a friend :/
Look up reviews from youtube. There is quite a bit of change including a 7k price difference.
There is quite a bit of change including a 7k price difference
Up or down?
up I believe. It's about 65k in white. Hmm… Maybe it is kinda similar to new price for non inventory…. ?
TBH even at 65k it's not a bad price.
2024 has had a physical design refresh to the front bumper and rear lights. It has aircon cooled seats in the front and an entertainment screen in the back. Among other things.
others that I know - no indicator stalks in the new model, also the new model has blind spot indicators
All Black Partial Premium Interior
Anything in Wallabies colours?
Get the white leather and use some thing yellow and warm to stain it yourself? ;)
use some thing yellow and warm to stain it yourself?
I think that was Eddie Jones's strategy for the RWC
Same technique for staining white snow to yellow.
What model is Dynamic?